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A15420 A retection, or discouerie of a false detection containing a true defence of two bookes, intituled, Synopsis papismi, and Tetrastylon papisticum, together with the author of them, against diuers pretended vntruths, contradictions, falsification of authors, corruptions of Scripture, obiected against the said bookes in a certaine libell lately published. Wherein the vniust accusations of the libeller, his sophisticall cauils, and vncharitable slaunders are displayed. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1603 (1603) STC 25694; ESTC S114436 136,184 296

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christ_n be_v not_o i_o think_v in_o hell_n augustine_n thus_o expound_v these_o word_n genes_n 49._o 33._o he_o be_v gather_v to_o his_o people_n a_o fort_n populus_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la est_fw-la verum_fw-la &_o angelorum_fw-la this_o people_n it_o may_v be_v be_v not_o only_o of_o the_o saint_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n huic_fw-la populo_fw-la apponuntur_fw-la qui_fw-la post_fw-la hanc_fw-la vitam_fw-la deo_fw-la placentes_fw-la fiunt_fw-la to_o this_o people_n they_o be_v put_v which_o after_o this_o life_n please_v god_n quaest_n 168._o super_fw-la geves_fw-la likewise_o epistol_n 99_o ne_fw-fr ipsos_fw-la inferos_fw-la uspiam_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la locis_fw-la in_fw-la bono_fw-mi appellatos_fw-la reperire_fw-la potui_fw-la i_o can_v never_o find_v in_o scripture_n hell_n to_o be_v take_v in_o any_o good_a sense_n and_o there_o he_o conclude_v non_fw-la esse_fw-la membrum_fw-la aut_fw-la partem_fw-la inferorum_fw-la tantae_fw-la illius_fw-la 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