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A44026 Innocency, though under a cloud, cleared By P.H. a poor prisoner, when almost sunk under pretended friends censures in the day of his sufferings. And also, a discovery of the comforts that attends innocency in a prison. As also, twenty four usefull particulars left by him for his children and friends, and being left in a friends hand for his relations, I could not but make them publick; judging it will be no loss to the author, and great gain to the reader, and justly give offence to none. Hobson, Paul. 1664 (1664) Wing H2274A; ESTC R222586 80,187 179

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heart toward the High-way even the Way which thou wentest turn again O Virgin of Israel turn again to these thy Cities What! is there none for me None of this is mentioned but all laid aside to accomplish this rich admirable and unexpressible Love so it was done self-denyingly The fourth thing is For whom he gave him 1. He gave him for Sinners Rom. 5.8 But God commendeth his Love towards us in that while we were yet Sinners Christ dyed for us And in 1 Tim. 1.15 This is a faithful Saying and worthy of all acceptation That Christ Jesus came into the world to save Sinners of whom I am the chief 2. Ungodly Rom. 4.5 But to him that worketh not but beleiveth on him that justifieth the Ungodly his Faith is counted for Righteousness 3. For Enemies Rom. 5.10 For if while we were Enemies we were reconciled to God by the Death of his Son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his Life 4. The worst of sinners 1 Tim. 1.15 This is a faithful Saying and worthy of all acceptation That Christ Jesus came into the world to save Sinners of whom I am chief 5. It was for the Rebellious and Blasphemers and such as caused others to blaspheme Psal 68.18 Acts 26.1 8.1 Tim. 1.13 O this heightens God's Love O rich Love God loves them that hate him The fifth thing is God's End in giving his Son 1. It was to reconcile poor lost Sinners to himself 2 Cor. 5.19 20. To wit that God was in Christ reconciling the World unto himself not imputing their Trespasses unto them and hath committed unto us the Word of Reconciliation Verse 20. Now then we are Embassadors for Christ as though God did beseech you by us we pray you in Christ's stead be ye reconciled to God And in Col. 1.20 And having made Peace through the Blood of his Cross by him to reconcile all things unto himself by him I say whether they be things in Earth or things in Heaven Surely God doth highly prize this that he doth purchase it at so high a rate O see see poor Sinner it was not only to accomplish Reconciliation with him but us to him it was not his gain but our gain and his loss O what rich Love is here God seeks a way for us and then seeks to us 2. His End was to overcome and conquer that or them that would have destroyed us As first Sin Rom. 7.24 25. O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me from the body of this death and in verse 25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I serve the Law of God but with the flesh the Law of sin Secondly The Law Gal. 2.19 For through the Law I am dead to the Law that I might live unto God Rom. 8.2 For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the Law of Sin and Death Thirdly Death 1 Cor. 15.55 56. O Death where is thy sting O Grave where is thy victory The sting of Death is Sin and the strength of Sin is the Law Fourthly The World John 16.33 These things have I spoken unto you that in Me ye might have peace in the World ye shall have tribulation but be of good chear I have overcome the World Fifthly The Devil In 1 John 3.8 For this purpose the Son of God was manifested that he might destroy the Works of the Devil O what an End is that O reckon every End and they all end in one End for us poor Sinners 3. His End was To bring up poor Souls as into Union so into Communion with himself and Son in all their Light Life Love and Glory John 17.21 That they all may be one as thou Father art in Me and I in Thee that they also may be one in us that the World may believe that thou hast sent Me ver 22. And the Glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one as We are one verse 23. I in Them and Thou in Me that They may be made perfect in One and that the World may know that Thou hast sent Me and hast loved Them as thou hast loved Me. Apply 1 John 1.3 and 1 Pet. 1.3 4 c. 4. His End was That we might have nothing to hinder our Faith and Confidence in Him in our appeals and approaches to him Heb. 4.16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the Throne of Grace that we may obtain Mercy and find Grace to help in time of need And in Ephes 3.12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the Faith of him O mind these Scriptures poor Soul if thou wantest Faith go O go in the Faith of Jesus It is and was God's great care that poor souls though never so poor might come to him with boldness without fear If any should demand the Reasons why God takes this way to manifest his rich Love by Answer For these Reasons 1st Reason There was an absolute necessity lay upon it for there was not another way to accomplish Salvation for Sinners and satisfie divine Justice Isa 63.5 And I looked and there was none to help and I wondered that there was none to uphold therefore mine own Arm shall bring Salvation c. And by this Free-Grace is displayed gloriously 2d Reason That it might appear as to be an act of God's Wisdom so singularly an act of Love which other wayes could not have been had not all other things in the world have been lost and overlooked 3d. Reason That all flesh may be silent and brought to lye down and confess it to be a work only of God in that none but God could have done it See Rom. 3. at large and see chapt 4. at large where this rich Work of Love is fully related and debated and this as a Reason asserted Now for the Improvements of this rich Soul-supporting Truth mind in these Uses 1st Use To inform us of the great Wisdom Love and Grace of God to poor Sinners which is so fully made out in this Act of God in giving his Son in this manner O go over all the Particulars and you must say with the Apostle O the heighth and depth of God's Love Ephes 3.18 19. Rom. 11.33 2dly To inform us what poor Man had been had God left him in his lost estate or left him to have found out a way to have saved himself 3dly If this be so as hath been fully proved of this rich admirable and unexpressible Love of God in giving his Son then this may assure us in general That God cannot nor will not withhold any good thing from us but with Christ will give us all things It 's the very use Paul makes of this Truth in Rom. 8.32 where he saith He that spared not his own Son but delivered him up for us all how shall he not with him also freely give us all things O poor souls consider this and mind it
a Soul or Spirit in man that lives though the body dyes and also give you a hint of some of the Priviledges that the Soul enjoys after its separation from the body and then make some improvement Now in the first place I shall let you have some Scriptures to prove that there is a separation betwixt Soul and Body according to the Doctrine and shew some Reasons for it the Scriptures to prove it are these Gen. 35.18 18. Job 34.14 15. to them apply Psal 22.26 Ezek. 12.7 Act. 7.59 60. Luke 16.21 and so much for Scriptures the Reasons follow The first Reason Is from God's Appointment The second Reason From the the very nature of Soul and Body the one Spirit the other Flesh and Dust As it is unnatural for a Spirit naturally to dye so it is as unnatural for dust and flesh for ever to live without being changed from a Natural to a Spiritual as in 1 Cor. 15.42 43 44. If it be objected That by this Adam must have dyed if he had not sinned Answer It is a Question that the best cannot answer for there is more ground to believe that if he had not sinned yet his fleshly body must have had a time to have changed because it was dust and so natural and not of the nature of Eternity and to that end do not only mind the Natural Reason but this Scriptural Ground Whatever was a fruit of Sin Christ by his Death freed Saints from but Christ frees no soul from a Natural Death Ergo A Natural Death is not a bare and only fruit of sin if it were every Saint through believing in Christ would be freed from it but none are Ergo c. But this is a dispute amongst the greatest of the Learned and I shall enter no further into it Secondly I shall let you know in what sence the Scripture represents the Soul 1. Sometimes it is taken for the whole man as Gen. 17.14 c. Lev. 5.2 3. and chap. 7.19 2dly It is taken only for fleshly and natural blood and so the common life of man Gen. 46.26 3dly It 's taken for the affection of the soul as first for Love as 1 Sam. 18.1 Secondly for Grief and Sorrow Jer. 13.17 4thly It is taken figuratively for the Stomach Prov. 27.7 5thly It is taken for the breath of a man Jam. 2.26 6thly It is taken for the natural life distinct from the body and also from the soul or spirit of a man 7thly It is taken for that Soul or Spirit which was breathed by God into Adam by which he became a living Soul this is that that never dies And that there is such a Spirit or Soul that never dies I shall give you the Reasons and Scriptures to prove That there is something in a man that is part of man that lives and never dies and that I shall prove from these Scriptures and Reasons following and then shall give a brief Answer to the Scriptures and Reasons of such as are of a contrary mind The first Reason is grounded on Gen. 35.10 we reason thus Had there been nothing to have lived and gone to God it could not have been a departure but a cessation but it is said Her Soul departed and she dyed that is to say her body dyed But had her soul dyed there had been nothing to depart from the body The second Reason is from 1 Kings 17.21 22. And he stretched himself upon the Child three times and cryed unto the Lord and said O Lord my God I pray thee let this Child's soul come in to him again v. 22. And the Lord heard the voice of Elijah and the soul of the Child came in to him again and he revived Had the Child's soul been dead the Prophet would not have prayed that it might return to the body but that it might live again But God heard him and returned the soul of the Child and then the body revived Had the soul been dead both must have revived but the one returns the other revives so they were not both in one capacity The third Reason is from Eccles 3.21 Who knoweth the spirit of a man that goeth upward and the spirit the of beast that goeth downward to the Earth The Reason lies clear did the soul of a man dye when the body dies it dyed as a beast but here is a distinction so that there is a difference And where lies it the Text tells you That dust goes to dust but the Spirit to God that gave it so that it is clear that there is a part of a man that departs and lives when the body dyes The fourth Reason is from Mat. 10.28 And fear not them that kill the body but are not able to kill the soul but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell A good ground to prove this for Christ said Fear not them that can kill the body but are not able to kill the soul Now if the soul dyed with the body then he that killed one must of necessity kill the other but Christ saith plainly they may kill the body but not the soul So there is a Soul or part of man that lives though the body dyes The fifth Reason is from Act. 7.59 And they Stoned Stephen calling upon God and saying Lord Jesus receive my Spirit If there had been nothing in Stephen but what was to dye his Prayer had been needless but when his body was to dye he prayes that God would receive his spirit so there was a spirit or soul to depart and be received though the body dyed The sixth Reason is from 2 Cor. 4.16 For which cause we faint not but though our outward man perish yet the inward man is renewed day by day From whence we reason thus If all in man that is one with man dyed when the body dyes then when the body had on it any part of death or decay all in the body that is its own must be so too but here you see there is something that increases and gets up when the body decreases and goes down The seventh Reason is from 2 Cor. 5.6 8. Therefore we are always confident knowing that whilst we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord and in v. 8. We are confident I say and willing rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. In which words you may see that there is some part of man which when the body dyes is absent from the body and at that present is present with the Lord now if all in man that is of man did dye with the body then there was nothing to be present with God but you may here see it is and it was that which the Apostle groaned for The Eighth Reason is from Heb. 12.9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us and we gave them reverance shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father
be uncloathed but cloathed upon that Mortality might be swallowed up of Life And now see a little what is at home Phil 3.20 But our conversation is in Heaven from whence also we look for the Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ O! what Sorrows Sins Sighings and Complainings do attend us here But there is freedom from all There is glorious Sights without sinning There is Smiles without Frowns There is Love without Envie There is eternal Embracings without disputings There is all things New and never grows old There is no weariness in that way There is the answer of Faith without Fears There is all delightful Joyes without Tears In a word we shall know as we are known and see God and sin no more O come Lord Jesus come quickly my soul longs for this Love Quest Now if any should say Why then was Paul or any in a strait if this be so they need be in no strait in this debait how could Paul be in a strait Answ From these Causes Cause 1. There is a great union and near relation between soul and body being espoused together by God himself and when the soul groans and longs to be dissolved then Interest and Propriety in this affinity puts in its appeals and so makes a stop or a stand and so produces a Strait Cause 2. Is taken from the nature of Heaven and Glory which is far above and beyond the low capacity of the Soul that though the soul loves it yet when it 's a going it fears and is at a stand or strait Cause 3. Is because the dispute in the Case lies between the Affection and Judgment Now where Affection carries and Judgment joyns in Spirituals it goes delightfully and where Judgment carries and Affection stoops or joyns in with Judgment there it goes on powerfully but when they are divided and there is ground for both both ways there is great struglings and straits so is there in this Case Judgment and Affection look upward and downward Cause 4. Is a point of Interest or Propriety on both sides as in the Text To dye is gain to live is Christ Now you must know that Propriety divided will cause great debates and make the mind thus imployed to be at a stand Cause 5. It is a reasoning between Love and Loyalty Love is a fire or affection that ascends and flies high Loyalty looks to its duty though it be to go backward or forward Now when this comes in competition they will as in this Text cause a stand or strait Cause 6. An unaccustomed Change in any thing will cause a stand or stop and so a strait as the departure of the soul from the body is Cause 7. You must mind that Death is compared to a sleep and no man is willing to go to sleep till he be fully weary and for the most part Death comes to take us from the world before we are fully weary of the world And sometimes there is some work to do and men are not willing without some reasonings to go to sleep before their work is done Some Child to bring up or some Wife to love a little longer or Husband c. These are some of the Causes why Souls are at a stand or strait when Death comes I should now shew you some of the Scriptures and Reasons that some bring to prove the Soul mortal but they are not worth the mentioning only mind their Scriptures Gen. 2.17 Josh 2.13 1 Kings 2.2 Job 4.19 21. Chap. 14.1 2. 7.8 9 10 11 12. chap. 34.15 Psal 89.46 Psal 103.15 16. 115.17 Eccles 3.19 1 Cor. 15.18 these be the most of their Scriptures and the Reasons they draw are from them and they have some natural Reasons but in truth they are not worth the mentioning And as for their Scriptures and their Reasons from thence do but reade the verses before and after and you will soon see the deceit and in all your minding of any thing they say seems of force do but well mind the Reasons and the Scriptures I have here laid down to prove the Soul immortal and you will see the Truth and also the falshood of that sad Opinion of holding the Mortallity of the Soul Now we should make some improvement of this Truth but being streightned I shall leave that Beseeching God to do you as much good in the knowledge of this Truth as he hath done to my soul and so the LORD JEHOVAH be your Strength Now in answer to your desires because I cannot get time to write at large my apprehensions of the difference betwixt the Old-Covenant and the New as the Scripture calls them or the Covenant of Works and the Covenant of Grace Take a brief hint of a few Particulars of the different Property and that thus 1. The Condition of the Old Covenant was such that it did lay an Impossibility of attaining the promised Good by it and that you may see by viewing these Scriptures Lev. 18.5 Ezek. 20.11 Rom. 10.5 Gal. 3.12 2. It kept souls in Fears without any grounds of Certainty or Assurance for that which was done as it might be to day was to do again to morrow as if it had not been before See Heb. 7.19 27. chap. 9.9 and chap. 10.11 3. It was exceeding Costly even so that the Cost did exceed the Comforts all their Service did so declare it see 1 Chron. 21.24 4. The Word or Declaration of it was in comparison with the Declaration of the Gospel but a bare voice or sound of words Heb. 12.9 compared with Act. 15 24. The Promises belonging to it could not take place till the Condition made way and the Condition depended upon an impossibility so that both together in it self did signify but little more than a sound of words in comparison of the Declaration of the Gospel or Covenant of Grace 5. It begat great Fear in all that heard it but the Spirit and Saving-Faith in none see Heb. 12.21 Gal. 3.2 Now blessed be God this is ended and taken out of the way 〈◊〉 And that it is so you may be assured from Heb. 7.12 18. chap. 8.7 13. 2 Cor. 3.17 c. Now the Comforts of this Change lies in the removing of the evil that did attend us in that And 2dly In the Fruition of the Good that is brought in by the New-Covenant or the Covenant of Grace If you enquire after that Good I must tell you it is not to be in its fulness expressed by the tongue of Men and Angels but take a few Particulars that have been of great use and comfort to my soul and they are these First In that the Condition as well as the Promises of Good have their immediate dependance as to performance onely upon God Jer. 31.32 33 34. chap. 32.39 40. Ezek. 11.17 20. chap. 36.25 26 27. c. Secondly The Good of Promises are not caused but causes of Performance so that the good of Promises is the life of Duties So that the
times of trouble sweetly uphold them Psal 135.4 Doct. 1. There is a choice application of Gods chosen Ones to himself Doct. 2. The Chosen of God or God's People are God's Treasure Col. 2.6 Doct. It is the duty of all that have received Christ in all their walkings to walk in him 2 Col. 1.9 Doct. 1. It is the portion of the pretious People of God sometimes not only to be under the sight but the very Sentence of death Doct. 2. God's special end in laying his People so low is to keep them low in themselves and not to trust in themselves but singly in God Psal 94.19 Doct. God's Comforts and Consolations puts an end to mans distractions Gen. 49.11 Take it as a Proviso and Promise to the Church in Gospel-times Doct. There is high and glorious enrichments comprehended in or under simple appearance in Gospel-Appointments Rom. 8.6 Doct. 1. Death dwels in and is the portion of a Carnal mind Doct. 2. Life and Peace is a portion that doth accompany a spiritual mind Phil. 3.20 Doct. All true Subjects of Heaven have their conversation in Heaven whilest here on Earth the sence of which should cause them to walk as Saints amongst Sinners Mind the foregoing verses Psal 66.16 Doct. That heart which doth regard iniquity can make no improvements in his approaches to God by Prayer Psal 37.28 Doct. Near society with God is a safe seat for Saints Cant. 1.2 Doct. The nearest communion with Christ is dearest and most desired by that soul that is acquainted with him Psal 119.165 Doct. 1. The People of God are enriched with a great and admirable peace Doct. 2. They that are enriched with the true Peace of God are lovers of his Law Doct. 3. So far as souls are enriched with God's Peace and so become lovers of his Law so far they live above offences or stumblings Luke 14.28 Doct. It is commendable in all especially any that undertakes work for God to take in future dangers with present duties Jer. 2.14 first part Doct. For the Friends of God so to give way to sin as by it to bring themselves into the state of Servants is a state and condition that is sad in God's sight Cant 5.9 Doct. The spiritual enrichments Saints enjoy from Christ and by them declared to bare professors makes them to be at a stand Or thus The glorious Riches Saints see in Christ and their raised affections towards Christ being declared makes bare professors be at a stand 1 Thess 5.21 Doct. 1. It is the duty of the People of God to try before they trust Doct. 2. It is also God's Peoples duty in their tryals whatsoever they find to be truth to hold it fast Psal 45.3 Doct. 1. Christ is Sions King Doct. 2. There is effinity betwixt Christ and Christians Doct. 3. Those that are in union with Christ are all glorious Doct. 4. The Glory of Zion or Saints is within Hos 8.2 depending upon the first verse and relating to the third vers Doct. 1. There was and so there may be a People among the Israel of God that appear to lay claim to him and affirm they know him and yet live not with him nor are owned by him Doct. 2. It is not mens Affirmation that can hinder God's Determination in bringing his Judgements upon them that are false to him Psal 4.8 last part of ver 11. Doct. 1. There is nothing retained by God from the People of God that is good for them Doct. 2. It is not the bare Form but the Uprightness or upright frame of heart in the Form that the Goodness of God in his Promises runs out to Nahum 1.7 Mind the time when it 's spoke and to whom and what Doct. 1. The highest exercise of God's Wrath upon his Enemies doth not nor cannot hinder his Love and Goodness to his own Doct. 2. There is no danger so desperate but here is security and safety in God for his own Doct. 3. What soever God is in himself he is the ●●me to his People in the worst of times Dan. 6.10 Doct. 1. Saints assurance of Sufferings should not hinder or keep them off from their Service Doct. 2. Circumstances in and about Saints Service in a Suffering-day in some cases may become Substances or Duties Doct. 3. Changes in mens minds and Determinations or Conclusions in Councils should not make a stop or change in Saints way God-ward Deut. 33.29 Doct. 1. God's People are a happy People Doct. 2. The Excellency of God's People is a matchless Excellency Doct. 3. God's People are a Saved People Orthus The Salvation of Gods People is in God Doct. 4. The Strength or Life or Excellency of all that belongs to Saints is so because God is the same in that to them Doct. 5. As Saints are a People of Excellency upon God's account so they are Objects of Envy to their Enemies Doct. 6. The Enemies of Gods People are Lyars and they shall in God's season find them so Doct. 7. Though it be the portion of the Saints in a suffering-day to be low yet there is a season for Saints to be exalted above their Enemies 2. Chron. last part of vers 9. Doct. For any Person or People to be inriched with the experiences of the prosperous enjoyment of Gods Presence and to leave that and follow or ●leave to any other thing is to do foolishly Jer. 30.17 Doct. 1. It 's Saints or Zions portion to be under wants or wounds Doct. 2. As it is Zions portion to be under Sufferings so sometime in the eye of Reason to be lost or cast off by it Doct. 3. When Zions Deliverance is most out of the eye and also the affections of men its nearest the accomplishment in answer to Gods Purpose and Promise Or thus Doct. 4. When Zion is by men most forsaken it 's Gods season to save 2 Chron. 20. last part of ver 15. Doct. It is an encouraging comfort to a People or Nation in any great Trouble Tumults or Wars sensibly to know God is engaged therein John 27.17 Doct. It 's an high Testimony of Love to Christ and 't is kindly taken by him to be imployed in feeding or serving Christ's Lambs Job 23.10 Doct. When Saints suffer under the Hand of God and also under the Censures of men then to be so sensible of their own integrity as to center their satisfaction of it in the Knowledge of God is a Comfort that will hold out in the worst of times Mark 5.39 40. Doct. 1. It is that which sometimes accompanies the work or undertakings of Christ before they are accomalished to appear dead in the sight or sence of men Doct. 2. There is no cause to distrust or doubt of ●he Accomplishment of Christs undertakings though 〈◊〉 seem dead in the sight of men Doct. 3. When Christ's Vndertakings appear ●ead in mens sight they are but asleep in Christ's sence Dearly beloved Friends whoever you are that shall reade these Texts of Scripture lest
the Body this is the highest of all four Yet this Mind so high so noble knowing all things yet cannot know it self If so there must needs be something above that 's more chief more noble to order and guide and that is God Object If any should object and say All things are caused by the Sun Answ That cannot be For Man is made of the four Elements each of which is directly contrary to each other as Fire to Water c. Now that four contraries should joyn all in one peaceably to make one shews something above them to command them Obj. And if any shall say that the Air which is between Fire and Water doth reconcile these in one Ans What power is it that doth cause them to be subject to the Air it self cannot do it for it 's inferiour to either therefore there must be a power above each to encline the Air to that work and them to that subjection which power must be God So that from all that hath been said Reason it self shews there is a God had we not the blessed Scriptures which blessed be God we have And so much for this Question Dear Brother for your soul-refreshing Letters I thank you The Lord encrease your Prison mercies and bear you up under all your tryals which I know are very great but God can and I hope doth make them very easie Now dear Brother if it might not be too much trouble to you I could heartily wish that you would either in your Book that you are writing or in some other Papers leave your thoughts to these few Questions following by which you will engage him that is yours in the best bonds of Love Quest 1. The first Question relates to the great difference between the Roman Catholicks and Us and that is to beg your chief grounds from Scripture to prove That after the Consecration by the Priest it remains still bread and is not become really but representatively the flesh and blood of Christ Quest 2. What is your chiefest and most satisfying ground to prove and that from the Old Testament That Christ the Messias is come in answer to the Jews profession Quest 3. Seeing that in the Scripture the Gospel is so diversly expressed as sometimes it is called Gods Gospel and Christs Gospel and the Apostles Gospel and sometimes the Word is called the Gospel and sometimes God's Power is so called So the Question is What is truly and really the Gospel Your brief and exact Answer to these will refresh the heart not only of me but of many more of your Friends Farewel My hearty endeared Friend I shall do what I can to give you a brief Answer to these Questions Though I have not much freedom to meddle with that yet I shall briefly set down my Grounds and Reasons from Scripture which hath fully satisfied me and I hope it may satisfie you and others Quest 1. In answer to the first Question as to the business of Transubstantiation 't is clear that after the Consecration by the Priest it 's still bread And you will see it if you mind what is the Ground of the Roman Catholicks judging it otherwise The mistake is from this word Mat. 26.26 c. This is my Body Now say they Christ said so and he cannot lie In answer to that we say so too But you must mind how that word this is is in Scripture taken it 's taken two wayes 1. It 's taken Really as in John 20.31 This Jesus is the Christ that is Christ is really Jesus 2. It is taken Representatively representing a thing and is not really the thing though the word this is be there used as in Rev. 1.20 The seven Stars are the Angels of the seven Churches and the seven Candlesticks are the seven Churches Now none will say because the Spirit cannot lie that the Churches be Candlesticks c. But see yet more clearly in 1 Cor. 10.4 And they did all drink of that Spiritual Rock and that or this Rock was Christ. Now none will be so foolish as to affirm that Christ was a Rock of Stone So here This is my Body that is it doth really represent my Body Now they have no way to answer but will object and say O but this is a Miracle that Christ then did work and still doth by turning the real bread into real flesh Answ God and Christ never did work a Miracle in all the Scripture that you or any can prove but in the working of the Miricle it was so wrought that it did convince the outward sences of all that saw it or believed it Did he turn Water into Blood The sence of Seeing was convinced by seeing the colour changed Did he turn Water into Wine The sence of Tasting was satisfied and convinced by the tast as you may there see And so never was any Miracle wrought but the outward sences were and must be satisfied and convinced Look over all the Scripture and it was and must be so but in this it is not for as before so after the Consecration the eye did see it Bread and doth so still and the Taste did taste it Bread and so it doth still They and all the wit of man cannot answer this Quest 2. In answer to the second Question how to prove Christ to be come in answer to the Jews Objection Much may be said both from Scripture and Reason too large for me to assert therefore I shall onely mention one ground from the 9th of Daniel beginning at the 24 ver to the end of the chap. It being that which I never could see either here or beyond Sea by any Jew answered There the Angel tels Daniel the set time of Christ's coming and dying and tells him It 's seventy weeks from the day that the Command went out to rebuild the Temple Now that day Daniel knew and from that very day to Christ or the Messias death as it is there expressed is to be seventy weeks seven weeks and sixty two weeks and the week in which he dyed sixty two and seven and one week make seventy weeks Now first enquire of the Jews If they do not own Daniel a true Prophet they will say yea they do Then enquire if that Prince or Messias spoken of in Dan. 9.25 26 27. be not the Messias they look for they must and will say it is Then enquire If they have in all their Records any other accompts of weeks than two that is a week of dayes and a week of years they must and will say they have not Then reason what King reigned and what time of his Reign it was when the Command came forth to rebuild the Temple which is openly by them and us known Now till Christ's Death from that time must be but seventy weeks and if they should say seventy weeks of dayes then Christ had come before the Temple had been built but it must be seventy weeks of years accounting seven years for a