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A61434 Of prayers for the dead whether the practice and tradition thereof in the Church be truly Catholick, and a competent evidence of apostolick original and authority? : humbly tendred to the consideration of ... Stephens, Edward, d. 1706. 1699 (1699) Wing S5432; ESTC R24617 43,790 52

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be_v s._n cyril_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n he_o in_o his_o mystagogick_n catechism_n conclude_v all_o with_o a_o description_n and_o scheme_n of_o the_o liturgy_n then_o in_o use_n wherein_o after_o mention_v of_o the_o holy_a trisagium_fw-la hymn_n 〈◊〉_d hymn_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o say_v he_o do_v we_o recite_v this_o seraphic_a theology_n deliver_v to_o we_o that_o in_o that_o celestial_a hymnody_n we_o may_v communicate_v with_o the_o supra-mundain_a militia_n the_o heavenly_a host_n and_o thus_o by_o such_o kind_n of_o hymn_n sanctisy_v ourselves_o we_o pray_v the_o most_o benign_a god_n that_o he_o will_v send_v out_o his_o holy_a spirit_n upon_o the_o proposit_v element_n that_o it_o may_v make_v the_o bread_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o wine_n the_o blood_n of_o christ._n for_o certain_o whatever_o the_o holy_a spirit_n do_v touch_v it_o be_v sanctify_v and_o transmute_v then_o after_o that_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n that_o unbloody_a worship_n be_v do_v that_o be_v after_o the_o consecration_n and_o oblation_n in_o commemoration_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n over_o that_o very_a host_n of_o propitiation_n do_v we_o obsecrate_v god_n for_o the_o common_a peace_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o world_n for_o king_n for_o their_o army_n and_o confederate_n for_o the_o sick_a and_o afflict_a and_o in_o sum_n for_o all_o who_o need_n help_v we_o commemorate_v also_o those_o who_o have_v fall_v asleep_o before_o we_o first_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n martyr_n that_o god_n at_o their_o prayer_n and_o deprecation_n will_v accept_v we_o then_o we_o pray_v for_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o bishop_n decease_v and_o last_o for_o all_o who_o be_v decease_v among_o we_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v a_o very_a great_a help_n to_o the_o soul_n for_o who_o the_o obsecration_n of_o that_o tremendous_a sacrifice_n which_o be_v place_v on_o the_o altar_n be_v offer_v i_o will_v add_v but_o one_o instance_n more_o for_o the_o flourish_a time_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o comprise_v the_o whole_a time_n of_o the_o four_o first_o general_n council_n from_o first_o to_o last_o eusebius_n in_o his_o four_o book_n of_o the_o life_n of_o constantine_n describe_v the_o martyrium_fw-la of_o the_o apostle_n build_v by_o he_o at_o constantinople_n add_v chap._n 60._o all_o these_o do_v the_o emperor_n dedicate_v that_o he_o may_v consign_v to_o posterity_n the_o memory_n of_o our_o saviour_n apostle_n but_o he_o have_v another_o design_n in_o his_o mind_n when_o he_o build_v this_o church_n which_o be_v at_o first_o conceal_v but_o in_o the_o end_n it_o become_v know_v to_o all_o for_o he_o have_v design_v this_o place_n for_o himself_o after_o his_o death_n foresee_v by_o a_o transcendent_a alacrity_n of_o faith_n that_o his_o body_n after_o death_n shall_v be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o apostle_n apellation_n that_o even_o after_o death_n he_o may_v be_v esteem_v worthy_a of_o the_o prayer_n which_o shall_v be_v perform_v there_o in_o honour_n of_o the_o apostle_n believe_v that_o their_o memory_n will_v be_v useful_a and_o advantageous_a to_o his_o soul_n and_o afterward_o describe_v the_o solemnity_n of_o his_o funeral_n chap._n 71._o he_o say_v that_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o people_n together_o with_o those_o person_n consecrate_v to_o god_n not_o without_o tear_n and_o great_a lamentation_n pour_v forth_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o the_o emperor_n soul_n thereby_o perform_v a_o most_o grateful_a office_n to_o this_o pious_a prince_n and_o herein_o also_o god_n demonstrate_v his_o singular_a favour_n towards_o his_o servant_n because_o after_o his_o death_n agreeable_a to_o his_o own_o most_o earnest_a desire_n the_o tabernacle_n of_o his_o thrice_o bless_a soul_n be_v vouchsafe_v a_o place_n with_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o it_o may_v be_v
this_o matter_n be_v so_o confirm_v by_o this_o and_o by_o more_o ancient_a authority_n that_o it_o can_v reasonable_o be_v question_v the_o other_o be_v s._n epiphanius_n bishop_n of_o salamis_n the_o metropolis_n of_o the_o isle_n of_o cyprus_n a_o man_n of_o good_a reputation_n for_o ability_n and_o piety_n and_o particular_o study_v in_o all_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o several_a heresy_n contrary_a thereunto_o in_o he_o we_o have_v a_o double_a testimony_n that_o of_o aerius_n and_o his_o own_o in_o a_o book_n of_o all_o the_o heretic_n and_o heresy_n in_o that_o of_o aerius_n be_v observable_a 1._o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o common_a practice_n viz._n commemorate_n the_o name_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o pray_v for_o they_o 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o end_n for_o which_o it_o be_v do_v viz._n that_o they_o may_v be_v benefit_v by_o the_o pardon_n of_o their_o sin_n at_o the_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n of_o their_o surviving_n friend_n and_o the_o church_n both_o these_o he_o oppose_v and_o that_o be_v a_o proof_n of_o both_o and_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o a_o adversary_n which_o be_v repute_v the_o most_o convince_a 3._o the_o opposition_n without_o any_o denial_n or_o question_n of_o the_o antiquity_n or_o universality_n of_o the_o practice_n or_o observation_n or_o of_o the_o tradition_n of_o either_o the_o practice_n or_o the_o intention_n and_o doctrine_n which_o if_o he_o have_v have_v any_o colour_n or_o pretence_n for_o it_o he_o will_v certain_o never_o have_v omit_v but_o he_o be_v able_a to_o say_v nothing_o against_o either_o the_o practice_n or_o benefit_n of_o it_o but_o if_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o be_v pious_a it_o will_v be_v sufficient_a to_o get_v people_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o pardon_n of_o one_o sin_n after_o his_o death_n in_o all_o these_o respect_n be_v the_o opposition_n of_o aerius_n a_o very_a considerable_a testimony_n of_o both_o the_o practice_n and_o intention_n and_o consequent_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n but_o because_o our_o great_a man_n use_v his_o utmost_a skill_n and_o very_o gross_o to_o evade_v and_o elude_v these_o testimony_n i_o will_v here_o present_v they_o both_o entire_a according_a to_o his_o own_o translation_n with_o note_n of_o the_o page_n where_o most_o of_o the_o distract_a parcel_n may_v be_v find_v in_o his_o book_n that_o the_o reader_n who_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o entertain_v himself_o with_o a_o prospect_n of_o his_o ingenuity_n may_v the_o more_o plain_o discern_v it_o the_o objection_n of_o aerius_n for_o what_o reason_n do_v you_o commemorate_v after_o death_n the_o name_n of_o those_o that_o be_v depart_v he_o that_o be_v alive_a pray_v or_o make_v dispensation_n of_o the_o mystery_n what_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v profit_v hereby_o and_o if_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o here_o do_v altogether_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d profit_v they_o that_o be_v there_o then_o let_v no_o body_n be_v godly_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v no_o man_n do_v good_a but_o let_v he_o procure_v some_o friend_n by_o what_o mean_v it_o please_v he_o either_o by_o persuade_v they_o by_o money_n or_o entreat_v friend_n at_o his_o death_n and_o let_v they_o pray_v for_o he_o that_o he_o may_v suffer_v nothing_o there_o and_o that_o those_o inexpiable_a sin_n which_o he_o have_v commit_v may_v not_o be_v require_v at_o his_o hand_n p._n 238._o epiphanius_n his_o answer_n and_o testimony_n as_o for_o the_o recite_v of_o the_o name_n of_o those_o that_o be_v decease_v what_o can_v be_v better_o than_o this_o what_o more_o commodious_a and_o more_o admirable_a that_o such_o as_o be_v present_a do_v believe_v that_o they_o who_o be_v depart_v do_v live_v and_o be_v not_o extinguish_v but_o be_v still_o be_v and_o live_v with_o the_o lord_n and_o that_o this_o most_o pious_a preach_v may_v be_v declare_v that_o they_o who_o pray_v for_o their_o brethren_n have_v hope_n of_o they_o as_o be_v in_o a_o peregrination_n p._n 240._o but_o the_o prayer_n also_o which_o be_v make_v for_o they_o do_v profit_n although_o it_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o answer_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o objection_n yet_o forasmuch_o as_o whilst_o we_o be_v in_o the_o world_n we_o oftentimes_o slip_v both_o unwilling_o and_o with_o our_o will_n it_o serve_v to_o signify_v that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a for_o we_o make_v a_o memorial_n both_o of_o the_o just_a and_o for_o sinner_n for_o sinner_n entreat_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n of_o the_o just_a both_o the_o father_n and_o patriarch_n prophet_n and_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n and_o martyr_n and_o confessor_n bishop_n and_o anchoretes_n and_o the_o whole_a order_n that_o we_o may_v sever_v our_o lord_n jesus_n from_o the_o rank_n of_o all_o other_o man_n by_o the_o honour_n that_o we_o do_v unto_o he_o and_o that_o we_o may_v yield_v worship_n unto_o he_o while_o we_o thus_o judge_v p._n 240._o that_o our_o lord_n be_v not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o any_o man_n though_o a_o man_n live_v in_o righteousness_n a_o thousand_o time_n and_o more_o for_o how_o shall_v that_o be_v possible_a consider_v that_o the_o one_o be_v god_n the_o other_o man_n and_o the_o one_o be_v in_o heaven_n the_o other_o in_o earth_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o remain_v or_o relic_n of_o the_o body_n yet_o rest_v in_o the_o earth_n p._n 242._o except_o those_o who_o be_v raise_v from_o the_o dead_a enter_v together_o into_o the_o bride-chamber_n as_o say_v the_o holy_a gospel_n etc._n etc._n but_o forbear_v these_o thing_n i_o return_v to_o what_o i_o be_v about_o the_o church_n do_v necessary_o perform_v this_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o tradition_n from_o the_o father_n and_o who_o may_v dissolve_v the_o ordinance_n of_o his_o mother_n or_o the_o law_n of_o his_o father_n p._n 237._o as_o solomon_n say_v hear_v my_o son_n the_o word_n of_o thy_o father_n and_o reject_v not_o the_o law_n of_o thy_o mother_n declare_v by_o this_o that_o our_o father_n that_o be_v god_n the_o only_o beget_v and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n have_v teach_v we_o both_o in_o scripture_n and_o without_o scripture_n but_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n have_v ordinance_n settle_v in_o she_o which_o be_v inviolable_a and_o may_v not_o be_v break_v see_v then_o there_o be_v ordinance_n establish_v in_o the_o church_n and_o they_o be_v well_o and_o all_o thing_n be_v admirable_o do_v this_o seducer_n be_v again_o refute_v p._n 237._o this_o be_v the_o answer_n of_o epiphanius_n the_o word_n enclose_v in_o crotchet_n be_v not_o in_o usher_n to_o this_o we_o may_v well_o apply_v what_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v easter_n the_o observation_n of_o which_o be_v another_o thing_n which_o aerius_n quarrel_v at_o but_o who_o know_v these_o thing_n best_o this_o seduce_a fellow_n who_o be_v but_o new_o spring_v up_o and_o now_o live_v among_o we_o 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a_o necessary_a consequence_n 5._o his_o only_a reason_n be_v that_o it_o will_v make_v piety_n and_o good_a life_n needless_a 6._o epiphanius_n his_o answer_n 1._o from_o reason_n 1._o as_o it_o be_v a_o seasonable_a and_o excellent_a declaraction_n of_o the_o faith_n and_o hope_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o as_o a_o act_n of_o charity_n for_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o decease_a 2._o from_o authority_n as_o receive_v in_o the_o church_n by_o tradition_n from_o our_o saviour_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o now_o how_o do_v our_o great_a man_n elude_v this_o epiphanius_n say_v he_o do_v not_o name_n this_o viz._n that_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n profit_v not_o the_o depa_n t_v in_o christ_n a_o heresy_n 2._o nor_o do_v it_o appear_v that_o himself_o do_v hold_v that_o