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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d consubstantial_a pa._n 185._o punishment_n his_o argument_n for_o purgatory_n punishment_n this_o be_v great_a boldness_n whether_o we_o look_v at_o the_o comparison_n of_o the_o thing_n or_o the_o difficulty_n of_o the_o undertake_n but_o he_o learn_v this_o from_o his_o master_n the_o 15._o the_o bel._n l._n 1._o de_fw-la purgat_fw-la c._n 15._o cardinal_n who_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o say_v it_o and_o mr._n spencer_n be_v not_o afraid_a to_o follow_v he_o let_v he_o say_v and_o undertake_v what_o he_o will_n his_o pretend_a demonstration_n proceed_v thus_o purgatory_n be_v the_o place_n where_o temporal_a punishment_n be_v suffer_v by_o just_a person_n after_o death_n which_o they_o deserve_v in_o their_o life_n now_o if_o any_o justify_v soul_n be_v liable_a to_o suffer_v such_o after_o death_n than_o there_o be_v a_o place_n where_o they_o must_v suffer_v they_o to_o prove_v they_o liable_a to_o such_o punishment_n he_o endeavour_v to_o show_v that_o justify_v person_n yet_o live_v after_o remission_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o consequent_o of_o eternal_a torment_n be_v liable_a to_o some_o temporal_a punishment_n pa._n 185_o 186._o this_o proposition_n be_v too_o infirm_a to_o make_v a_o demonstration_n or_o proof_n of_o purgatory_n for_o we_o may_v ask_v if_o upon_o remission_n of_o sin_n consequent_o there_o be_v a_o remission_n of_o eternal_a why_o not_o consequent_o of_o temporal_a punishment_n he_o dare_v not_o say_v that_o temporal_a punishment_n be_v not_o remit_v when_o sin_n be_v forgive_v and_o therefore_o say_v liable_a to_o some_o temporal_a punishment_n and_o pa._n 187._o he_o say_v god_n retain_v part_n of_o the_o punishment_n he_o mean_v to_o be_v satisfy_v or_o pay_v by_o we_o which_o will_v be_v find_v true_a only_o when_o it_o please_v god_n to_o reserve_v some_o and_o inflict_v it_o yet_o not_o as_o satisfactory_a punishment_n but_o for_o other_o purpose_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v again_o we_o may_v ask_v though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v consequent_o the_o remission_n of_o eternal_a punishment_n and_o that_o so_o i_o live_v be_v after_o remission_n of_o their_o sin_n temporal_o afflict_v with_o respect_n to_o that_o sin_n yet_o how_o will_v this_o consequent_o fall_v upon_o just_a person_n dead_a to_o make_v good_a the_o proposition_n that_o just_a man_n live_v be_v liable_a to_o some_o temporal_a punishment_n he_o bring_v the_o example_n of_o david_n punish_v with_o the_o death_n of_o his_o child_n sin_n child_n 2_o sam._n 12.13_o 14._o of_o punish_v ment_fw-mi reserve_v and_o inflict_v after_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o adam_n who_o after_o his_o sin_n forgive_v be_v notwithstanding_o liable_a to_o death_n as_o all_o just_a person_n be_v for_o the_o same_o reason_n pa._n 186._o his_o allege_v the_o example_n of_o adam_n sin_n punishm_v by_o death_n be_v altogether_o impertinent_a to_o the_o question_n and_o mr._n spencer_n sure_o know_v it_o well_o enough_o for_o his_o question_n be_v not_o concern_v in_o the_o punishment_n immediate_o upon_o original_a sin_n which_o cleave_v universal_o to_o our_o nature_n and_o from_o which_o no_o just_a person_n whatsoever_o though_o they_o have_v full_o satisfy_v as_o they_o suppose_v for_o temporal_a punishment_n be_v free_a but_o the_o question_n be_v concern_v only_o in_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n due_a to_o actual_a sin_n commit_v after_o baptism_n for_o to_o these_o only_o belong_v the_o doctrine_n of_o satisfaction_n as_o he_o know_v their_o trent_n council_n have_v define_v for_o mortality_n and_o bodily_a infirmity_n follow_v the_o natural_a state_n be_v not_o matter_n for_o satisfaction_n or_o indulgence_n to_o work_v on_o as_o the_o romanist_n will_v grant_v let_v we_o therefore_o examine_v his_o other_o example_n of_o david_n whether_o it_o will_v prove_v his_o proposition_n we_o say_v just_a person_n after_o the_o remission_n of_o their_o sin_n be_v not_o liable_a to_o temporal_a punishment_n ordinary_a ordinary_o and_o of_o course_n that_o be_v god_n do_v not_o always_o reserve_v some_o temporal_a punishment_n or_o part_n of_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n due_a to_o their_o sin_n and_o to_o be_v inflict_v or_o satisfy_v for_o by_o themselves_o but_o do_v reserve_v such_o punishment_n to_o be_v inflict_v when_o and_o as_o he_o think_v fit_a again_o when_o he_o do_v reserve_v and_o inflict_v they_o it_o be_v not_o in_o ordine_fw-la justitiae_fw-la in_o order_n to_o his_o justice_n require_v punishment_n as_o satisfactory_a to_o it_o which_o he_o must_v suppose_v when_o he_o say_v if_o not_o suffer_v here_o it_o must_v be_v else_o where_o but_o almighty_a god_n inflict_v such_o punishment_n for_o other_o reason_n and_o purpose_n as_o for_o correction_n and_o amendment_n of_o person_n so_o fuffer_v or_o at_o least_o for_o admonition_n to_o other_o as_o when_o the_o person_n suffering_n die_v or_o be_v take_v away_o by_o the_o punishment_n so_o that_o such_o punishment_n after_o sin_n forgive_v be_v not_o proper_o satisfactory_a as_o the_o romanist_n must_v and_o do_v suppose_v but_o castigatory_a at_o least_o admonitory_a to_o other_o we_o grant_v such_o punishment_n be_v inflict_v satisfaction_n other_o reason_n of_o punishment_n beside_o satisfaction_n and_o that_o with_o relation_n to_o and_o by_o occasion_n of_o sin_n as_o david_n be_v not_o out_o of_o vindicative_a justice_n require_v satisfaction_n as_o they_o must_v suppose_v but_o for_o other_o reason_n of_o correction_n or_o admonition_n as_o be_v say_v and_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o reason_n the_o lord_n give_v of_o david_n punishment_n howbeit_o that_o be_v notwithstanding_o that_o thy_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o and_o the_o punishment_n due_a unto_o it_o because_o thou_o have_v by_o this_o deed_n or_o sin_n give_v great_a occasion_n to_o the_o enemy_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o blaspheme_v which_o also_o give_v we_o another_o reason_n of_o god_n some_o time_n punish_v such_o person_n that_o he_o may_v show_v he_o do_v not_o approve_v sin_n in_o his_o child_n but_o that_o it_o be_v displease_v to_o he_o as_o be_v say_v 2_o sam._n 11._o ult_n but_o the_o thing_n that_o david_n have_v do_v displease_v the_o lord_n now_o that_o god_n almighty_n do_v not_o ordinary_o and_o always_o reserve_v such_o punishment_n after_o forgiveness_n appear_v 1._o because_o he_o have_v no_o where_o declare_v that_o such_o punishment_n be_v reserve_v or_o do_v remain_v after_o forgiveness_n to_o be_v satisfy_v for_o by_o we_o but_o every_o where_o have_v declare_v he_o be_v well_o satisfy_v with_o the_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n that_o be_v if_o the_o person_n to_o who_o he_o forgive_v sin_n careful_o avoid_v the_o like_a sin_n and_o perform_v the_o contrary_a duty_n 2._o because_o he_o have_v set_v out_o his_o forgiveness_n as_o perfect_v and_o full_a a_o pardon_v of_o the_o whole_a debt_n of_o which_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n due_a to_o sin_n be_v part_n and_o in_o this_o point_n of_o forgive_a he_o will_v have_v we_o imitate_v he_o be_v merciful_a as_o he_o be_v merciful_a luc._n 3._o another_o reason_n of_o our_o deny_v satisfactory_a punishment_n inflict_v after_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o sin_n be_v because_o that_o forgiveness_n be_v impart_v for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v full_a and_o all-sufficient_a pay_v by_o he_o for_o the_o whole_a debt_n or_o punishment_n due_a to_o sin_n for_o he_o bear_v our_o grief_n and_o our_o chastisement_n isa_n 53.4_o 5._o even_o all_o that_o sin_n make_v we_o liable_a to_o whether_o eternal_a or_o temporal_a and_o yet_o be_v the_o cardinal_n so_o bold_a as_o by_o distinguish_v of_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n to_o give_v we_o part_v with_o and_o under_o christ_n in_o the_o work_n say_v that_o our_o saviour_n satisfy_v immediate_o i._n e._n satisfacimus_fw-la bel._n l._n 4._o de_fw-la poenit_fw-la c._n 15._o porro_fw-la immediatè_fw-la pro_fw-la culpa_fw-la &_o reatu_fw-la mortis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la mediate_v pro_fw-la poena_fw-la etiam_fw-la temporali_fw-la quatenus_fw-la gratiam_fw-la praebet_fw-la per_fw-la quamipsi_fw-la nos_fw-la domino_fw-la satisfacimus_fw-la by_o himself_o for_o the_o fault_n and_o for_o the_o guilt_n of_o eternal_a death_n and_o mediate_o for_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n also_o in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o afford_v we_o grace_n whereby_o we_o ourselves_o satisfy_v the_o lord_n have_v he_o say_v our_o saviour_n satisfy_v for_o the_o temporal_a punishment_n also_o so_o that_o it_o be_v either_o whole_o remit_v to_o the_o righteous_a or_o if_o any_o be_v inflict_v grace_n be_v give_v to_o bear_v it_o and_o the_o affliction_n sanctify_v to_o their_o advantage_n even_o death_n itself_o with_o all_o other_o corporal_a infirmity_n and_o affliction_n whatsoever_o have_v he_o speak_v to_o this_o purpose_n it_o have_v be_v wholesome_a doctrine_n thus_o for_o his_o antecedent_n or_o proposition_n death_n that_o reservation_n of_o punishment_n whether_o it_o can_v hold_v after_o death_n as_o concern_v just_a person_n live_v liable_a
dust_n thou_o be_v because_o make_v of_o dust_n and_o the_o serpent_n call_v a_o rod_n because_o make_v of_o aaron_n rod_n and_o the_o wine_n call_v water_n jo._n 2.9_o because_o make_v of_o water_n so_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n by_o s._n paul_n call_v bread_n because_o make_v of_o it_o yet_o dare_v not_o stand_v to_o it_o when_o we_o reply_v the_o former_a thing_n be_v call_v so_o because_o of_o the_o same_o matter_n remain_v in_o the_o thing_n make_v which_o be_v in_o that_o of_o which_o it_o be_v make_v but_o not_o so_o in_o this_o make_n of_o christ_n body_n which_o be_v but_o once_o make_v and_o that_o of_o the_o seed_n or_o blood_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mr._n spencer_n be_v put_v to_o speak_v to_o this_o point_n go_v backward_o and_o forward_o he_o acknowledge_v p._n 266._o by_o reason_n of_o the_o subject_n which_o remain_v common_a to_o both_o in_o philosophy_n call_v materia_fw-la prima_fw-la the_o first_o matter_n adam_n be_v call_v dust_n and_o the_o serpent_n a_o rod_n and_o acknowledge_v p._n 269._o that_o our_o saviour_n body_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v so_o make_v of_o bread_n and_o therefore_o must_v acknowledge_v those_o former_a usual_a instance_n to_o be_v impertinent_a this_o be_v backward_o now_o see_v how_o he_o strive_v forward_o to_o maintain_v the_o speech_n make_v of_o bread_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n succeed_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n under_o the_o same_o accident_n and_o so_o issue_v from_o it_o as_o the_o day_n issue_v from_o the_o night_n as_o from_o the_o term_n from_o which_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v as_o one_o may_v say_v ex_fw-la nocte_fw-la fit_a dies_fw-la the_o day_n be_v make_v of_o the_o night_n so_o ex_fw-la pane_fw-la fit_a corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la christ_n body_n be_v make_v of_o bread_n as_o it_o be_v mysterious_o in_o this_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v call_v bread_n after_o consecration_n p._n 269._o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v call_v wherefore_o because_o forsooth_o it_o be_v 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this_o impertinency_n in_o this_o question_n he_o let_v it_o fall_v but_o the_o complete_a reason_n of_o catholic_n say_v he_o why_o s_n paul_n call_v the_o sacrament_n bread_n after_o the_o consecration_n oft_o their_o pretend_a reason_n why_o s._n paul_n call_v it_o bread_n so_o oft_o be_v because_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n into_o which_o the_o bread_n be_v change_v be_v put_v under_o the_o species_n of_o bread_n which_o give_v occasion_n of_o give_v it_o the_o same_o denomination_n it_o have_v before_o p._n 272._o what_o have_v before_o that_o denomination_n of_o bread_n the_o species_n or_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n neither_o sure_o such_o careless_a expression_n he_o every_o where_o take_v hold_v of_o when_o they_o fall_v from_o his_o adversary_n and_o can_v spend_v whole_a page_n against_o they_o but_o this_o complete_a reason_n be_v no_o reason_n to_o s._n paul_n neither_o do_v it_o give_v he_o any_o occasion_n of_o give_v it_o still_o the_o same_o denomination_n of_o 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be_v all_o the_o reason_n the_o romanist_n can_v give_v and_o these_o poor_a species_n the_o form_n colour_n smell_v appearance_n of_o bread_n must_v help_v they_o at_o every_o turn_n they_o must_v stand_v for_o substance_n when_o there_o be_v occasion_n must_v be_v the_o visible_a part_n or_o sign_n of_o the_o sacrament_n must_v be_v break_v eat_v nourish_v what_o not_o as_o for_o those_o say_n i_o be_o the_o vine_n i_o be_o the_o door_n i_o need_v not_o follow_v he_o in_o examine_v the_o difference_n he_o seek_v out_o between_o they_o and_o this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o thus_o far_o they_o be_v appliable_a to_o our_o purpose_n that_o they_o be_v figurative_a speech_n yet_o be_v our_o saviour_n true_o so_o that_o be_v what_o a_o door_n or_o vine_n be_v in_o their_o kind_n and_o use_n such_o be_v our_o saviour_n spiritual_o indeed_o and_o in_o truth_n so_o what_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v to_o the_o corporal_a effect_n be_v eat_v and_o drink_v that_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n take_v by_o faith_n be_v spiritual_o floren._n omnem_fw-la essectum_fw-la quem_fw-la materialis_fw-la cibus_fw-la &_o potus_fw-la quoad_fw-la vi_fw-la tam_fw-la agunt_fw-la corporalem_fw-la hoc_fw-la idem_fw-la quoad_fw-la vitam_fw-la spiritualem_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la operatur_fw-la council_n floren._n and_o to_o the_o spiritual_a effect_n it_o be_v the_o very_a expression_n of_o their_o council_n of_o flerence_n and_o as_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n be_v real_o offer_v and_o give_v so_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o sacrament_n real_o and_o to_o all_o the_o purpose_n of_o the_o sacrament_n give_v and_o communicate_v to_o they_o that_o have_v faith_n to_o receive_v it_o for_o this_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n after_o consecration_n be_v call_v and_o make_v to_o we_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n or_o as_o st._n paul_n express_v it_o be_v the_o communication_n of_o his_o body_n upon_o occasion_n of_o 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church_n which_o often_o be_v defer_v to_o the_o time_n of_o their_o death_n or_o else_o it_o be_v speak_v in_o relation_n to_o a_o more_o severe_a scrutiny_n and_o examination_n which_o they_o shall_v undergo_v at_o their_o appear_v before_o the_o lord_n and_o not_o have_v that_o ready_a admittance_n which_o confessor_n and_o other_o just_a person_n that_o need_v not_o their_o repentance_n shall_v find_v be_v admit_v without_o delay_n ready_o cunctatione_n sine_fw-la cunctatione_n as_o st._n cyprian_n speak_v of_o they_o or_o without_o judgement_n to_o grace_n and_o favour_n gra●iam_fw-la sine_fw-la judicio_fw-la ad_fw-la gra●iam_fw-la as_o ambr._n on_o the_o first_o psal_n vers_fw-la 5._o whereas_o the_o other_o shall_v be_v hold_v under_o a_o scrutiny_n examination_n a_o open_n of_o their_o fail_n and_o denial_n consusio_fw-la quis_fw-la pudor_fw-la quae_fw-la consusio_fw-la what_o shame_n then_o and_o confusion_n of_o face_n say_v st._n ambrose_n there_o when_o all_o shall_v be_v lay_v open_a or_o when_o take_v in_o that_o which_o thou_o taught_v other_o shall_v not_o do_v thus_o sometime_o some_o father_n speak_v of_o those_o that_o die_v in_o a_o salvable_a condition_n through_o faith_n and_o repentance_n though_o late_o as_o distinguishable_a from_o those_o that_o die_v martyr_n or_o have_v repent_v betimes_o have_v live_v long_o in_o a_o constant_a course_n of_o christian_a profession_n and_o careful_a performance_n of_o righteousness_n st._n ambrose_n thus_o 12._o thus_o ambr._n de_fw-mi bono_fw-mi mortis_fw-la c._n 12._o when_o that_o day_n come_v the_o day_n of_o death_n they_o go_v to_o their_o redeemer_n to_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n yet_o 10._o yet_o ibid._n c._n 10._o elsewhere_o he_o seem_v to_o defer_v it_o to_o the_o resurrection_n according_a to_o the_o first_o opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_n deliver_v above_o unless_o we_o take_v that_o go_n to_o abraham_n bosom_n general_o for_o a_o state_n of_o bless_a rest_n and_o be_v that_o where_o it_o will_v either_o below_o or_o in_o heaven_n yet_o their_o go_v thither_o present_o upon_o death_n exclude_v purgatory_n dionysius_n in_o his_o eccles_n 〈◊〉_d diony_n eccl._n hier._n c._n 7._o parte_fw-la 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hierarchy_n speak_v of_o those_o that_o die_v in_o the_o lord_n transmits_n they_o present_o to_o a_o christ-like_a rest_n nazianzen_n in_o the_o death_n of_o his_o brother_n caesarius_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o his_o oracio●_n say_v every_o good_a soul_n loose_v of_o the_o body_n 〈◊〉_d nazien_fw-fr in_o epitaphio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d go_v present_o to_o the_o state_n of_o bliss_n which_o he_o there_o describe_v such_o as_o he_o believe_v ●●s_o brother_n be_v go_v to_o and_o which_o be_v to_o be_v note_v he_o bring_v in_o the_o former_a assertion_n thus_o i_o believe_v the_o say_n of_o the_o wise_a every_o good_a soul_n be_v loose_v etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o purgatien_n mark_v the_o parenthesis_n he_o there_o put_v in_o ibid._n eo_fw-la quod_fw-la tenebras_fw-la effundebat_fw-la purgato_fw-la &_o deposito_fw-la vel_fw-la quo_fw-la verbo_fw-la ca_fw-mi res_fw-la appellanda_fw-la sit_fw-la nazian_n ibid._n that_o which_o do_v cause_n darkness_n be_v purge_v and_o depose_v which_o must_v be_v by_o death_n or_o separation_n from_o body_n or_o by_o what_o word_n that_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v call_v i_o know_v not_o chrysost_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o mat_n homil_n 32._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thus_o this_o present_a life_n be_v subject_a to_o many_o sorrow_n and_o trouble_n but_o no_o such_o thing_n say_v he_o be_v speak_v in_o scripture_n of_o the_o future_a but_o there_o all_o grief_n fly_v away_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o chrys_n ad_fw-la philip._n serm._n 3_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elsewhere_o speak_v of_o sinner_n and_o righteous_a he_o say_v of_o these_o be_v go_v from_o hence_o they_o be_v with_o christ_n face_n to_o face_n as_o the_o apostle_n 2_o cor._n 5.7_o say_v be_v absent_a from_o the_o body_n we_o be_v present_a with_o the_o lord_n 4._o chrys_n ad_fw-la hebr._n ser_n 4._o and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o ask_v what_o mean_v the_o lamp_n and_o hymn_n and_o prayer_n viz._n at_o the_o funeral_n of_o the_o dead_a but_o as_o sign_n of_o joy_n to_o tell_v we_o the_o lord_n have_v crown_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o have_v he_o with_o he_o and_o in_o his_o 61._o hom_n in_o joan._n he_o say_v of_o the_o righteous_a man_n die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o go_v away_o with_o the_o angel_n allude_v to_o lazarus_n his_o soul_n carry_v by_o angel_n into_o abraham_n bosom_n all_o this_o and_o often_o thus_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o just_a man_n oppose_v to_o the_o sinner_n that_o die_v in_o his_o sin_n without_o repentance_n for_o he_o usual_o divide_v all_o man_n into_o these_o two_o sort_n but_o such_o righteous_a man_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n send_v to_o purgatory_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiphanius_n 〈◊〉_d epiph._n haer._n 39_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o heresy_n
wish_n intercession_n thus_o they_o pray_v at_o the_o burial_n or_o carry_v out_o of_o the_o dead_a and_o do_v it_o as_o we_o see_v above_o for_o the_o reason_n there_o mention_v viz._n the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o confirm_v of_o their_o hope_n and_o demonstration_n of_o their_o affection_n and_o the_o like_a and_o upon_o the_o like_a respect_n they_o yearly_o repeat_v the_o like_a prayer_n as_o we_o hint_v above_o out_o of_o the_o cardinal_n acknowledge_v as_o much_o last_o it_o be_v a_o private_a opinion_n but_o notorious_a and_o hold_v by_o many_o misapplication_n that_o the_o damn_a have_v benefit_n or_o ease_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n a_o private_a opinion_n or_o misapplication_n that_o they_o which_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n without_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n may_v at_o length_n be_v recover_v out_o of_o their_o pain_n or_o at_o least_o have_v they_o mitigate_v and_o to_o these_o the_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o beg_v forgiveness_n ease_n or_o release_n be_v i_o do_v not_o say_v refer_v by_o the_o church_n but_o apply_v or_o rather_o misapply_v by_o many_o origen_n give_v occasion_n first_o to_o this_o error_n for_o he_o hold_v that_o all_o shall_v at_o length_n come_v out_o of_o their_o torment_n and_o his_o error_n be_v as_o vincentius_n note_n a_o great_a temptation_n to_o the_o church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o wit_n and_o part_n of_o the_o author_n affectu_fw-la aug._n enchirid_a cap._n iii_o frustra_fw-la quamplurimi_fw-la aeternam_fw-la damnatorum_fw-la poenam_fw-la miserantur_fw-la affectu_fw-la and_o st._n aug._n tell_v we_o in_o several_a place_n that_o many_o be_v of_o this_o merciful_a opinion_n very_o many_o say_v he_o do_v commiserate_v through_o humane_a affection_n the_o eternal_a suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a and_o do_v not_o believe_v it_o will_v be_v so_o etc._n etc._n of_o these_o also_o in_o other_o place_n especial_o in_o his_o work_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n l._n 21._o c._n 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o where_o he_o reckon_v five_o latitude_n in_o the_o extent_n of_o that_o opinion_n refute_v they_o all_o greg._n nyssen_n seem_v to_o be_v deep_o taint_v with_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o be_v note_v for_o it_o by_o the_o greek_n in_o their_o apology_n against_o the_o romish_a purgatory_n make_v and_o give_v out_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n for_o that_o sententiam_fw-la that_o nyssen_n in_o orat_fw-la deus_fw-la omne_fw-la in_o ommbus_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o orat_fw-la le_fw-fr moritur_fw-la tu●s_fw-la pag_n 1067._o mixtam_fw-la clementi_fw-la sententiam_fw-la father_n seem_v plain_o to_o assert_v the_o restore_n of_o all_o man_n to_o salvation_n and_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o purge_n of_o some_o and_o their_o turn_n to_o god_n after_o death_n who_o be_v impure_a in_o their_o life_n and_o that_o place_n of_o st._n hierom_n upon_o isa_n 66._o ult_n which_o the_o cardinal_n misapply_v to_o purgatory_n for_o it_o plain_o speak_v of_o wicked_a christian_n do_v show_v some_o tincture_n of_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n now_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o chrysosto●e_n apply_v the_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n make_v for_o the_o dead_a to_o such_o sinner_n and_o i_o shall_v choose_v rather_o to_o silence_v those_o error_n and_o mistake_n of_o some_o ancient_a father_n do_v not_o the_o importunity_n of_o the_o romanist_n force_v we_o to_o show_v the_o misapplication_n of_o they_o to_o purgatory_n i_o shall_v insist_v therefore_o in_o some_o passage_n of_o st._n chrysostome_n philip._n hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n hom._n 21._o in_o act._n serm._n 3._o in_o philip._n the_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o to_o be_v pray_v for_o be_v in_o several_a homily_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o they_o thus_o set_v forth_o by_o he_o one_o say_v he_o that_o daily_o offend_v god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o that_o live_v every_o day_n to_o his_o own_o pleasure_n one_o that_o die_v in_o his_o riches_n and_o never_o use_v they_o to_o the_o benesit_fw-la of_o his_o soul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d corrupt_a and_o lose_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o of_o who_o he_o say_v hom._n 32._o in_o mat._n if_o god_n have_v see_v he_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v he_o off_o before_o his_o repentance_n such_o as_o these_o the_o romanist_n will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o go_v to_o purgatory_n but_o to_o hell_n yet_o of_o these_o he_o say_v let_v we_o mourn_v for_o such_o a_o one_o but_o that_o avail_v not_o let_v we_o help_v he_o as_o we_o can_v how_o be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o prayer_n and_o alm_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v which_o may_v bring_v some_o comfort_n and_o ease_v to_o he_o to_o this_o tenor_n he_o speak_v in_o all_o the_o place_n above_o cite_v but_o especial_o in_o hom._n 21._o upon_o the_o act_n shall_v we_o not_o try_v say_v he_o of_o one_o that_o live_v to_o himself_o and_o the_o devil_n to_o rescue_v he_o from_o the_o danger_n and_o evil_n he_o be_v encompass_v with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o there_o be_v a_o way_n if_o we_o will_v to_o make_v his_o punishment_n light_a and_o this_o by_o make_v prayer_n for_o he_o and_o almsdeed_n and_o these_o say_v he_o so_o much_o the_o more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o more_o sin_n and_o this_o he_o take_v to_o be_v doctrine_n suitable_a to_o the_o love_a kindness_n of_o god_n towards_o man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o then_o a_o little_a after_o he_o add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o we_o be_v not_o virtuous_a ourselves_o yet_o let_v we_o get_v friend_n that_o will_v do_v this_o for_o we_o when_o we_o be_v go_v then_o present_o follow_v 〈◊〉_d follow_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d oblation_n be_v not_o in_o vain_a nor_o supplication_n nor_o almsdeed_n all_o these_o thing_n the_o spirit_n have_v ordain_v willing_a or_o command_v that_o we_o shall_v help_v one_o another_o then_o he_o mention_n the_o offer_v of_o the_o eucharist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o say_v it_o be_v not_o the_o minister_n simple_o or_o only_o that_o pray_v so_o for_o those_o that_o be_v fall_v asleep_a in_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o he_o only_o that_o send_v forth_o that_o voice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o spirit_n he_o indeed_o hold_v the_o offer_v or_o sacrifice_n in_o his_o hand_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o go_v on_o express_v the_o honour_n to_o be_v then_o remember_v and_o the_o power_n and_o efficacy_n of_o christ_n death_n then_o represent_v where_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o this_o say_n of_o he_o the_o spirit_n have_v ordain_v all_o these_o thing_n which_o the_o romanist_n do_v much_o urge_v as_o if_o their_o prayer_n and_o offering_n for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v by_o a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n relate_v to_o the_o help_n of_o one_o another_o by_o prayer_n oblation_n and_o almsdeed_n which_o in_o general_n be_v true_a so_o far_o as_o we_o be_v capable_a to_o be_v help_v by_o they_o but_o if_o it_o be_v particular_o apply_v to_o the_o help_a of_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o he_o have_v speak_v of_o it_o make_v nothing_o for_o the_o romanist_n for_o they_o will_v not_o allow_v that_o the_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n of_o the_o live_n do_v avail_n or_o help_v such_o as_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n but_o if_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o prayer_n and_o offering_n in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o he_o seem_v here_o to_o intend_v it_o it_o make_v nothing_o still_o for_o they_o or_o against_o we_o for_o we_o allow_v that_o ancient_a practice_n of_o remember_v there_o and_o pray_v as_o they_o do_v for_o those_o that_o sleep_n in_o christ_n the_o intent_n and_o purpose_n of_o those_o prayer_n he_o express_v in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o speech_n that_o they_o and_o we_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v obtain_v the_o good_a thing_n promise_v through_o the_o grace_n and_o merciful_a love_a kindness_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n a_o place_n parallel_n to_o the_o former_a he_o have_v in_o his_o third_n hom._n on_o the_o epist_n to_o the_o philip._n where_o speak_v of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o dead_a these_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o phil._n hom_n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o be_v not_o in_o vain_a ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o a_o remembrance_n be_v make_v of_o those_o that_o be_v dead_a in_o the_o most_o reverend_a and_o holy_a mystery_n for_o when_o all_o the_o people_n stand_v and_o the_o company_n of_o priest_n with_o their_o hand_n stretch_v out_o towards_o heaven_n and_o the_o great_a sacrifice_n lie_v
messiah_n and_o indeed_o that_o place_n of_o isa_n 9.6_o where_o the_o messiah_n be_v call_v pater_fw-la futuri_fw-la seculi_fw-la the_o father_n of_o the_o age_n or_o world_n to_o come_v to_o who_o a_o generation_n shall_v be_v account_v ps_n 22.30_o do_v accord_n thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v a_o opinion_n among_o the_o jew_n as_o they_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o their_o rabbin_n do_v tell_v we_o that_o some_o sin_n shall_v then_o be_v forgive_v which_o can_v not_o before_o and_o according_o it_o be_v a_o usual_a expression_n by_o say_v such_o a_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v no_o not_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v to_o show_v the_o atrocity_n and_o flagitiousness_n of_o such_o a_o sin_n which_o the_o grace_n that_o the_o messiah_n shall_v bring_v will_v not_o take_v away_o and_o so_o our_o saviour_n may_v speak_v this_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la according_a to_o their_o common_a opinion_n and_o say_n to_o express_v the_o heinousness_n of_o that_o sin_n or_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o take_v this_o phrase_n according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o suppose_v the_o messiah_n come_v already_o the_o world_n to_o come_v every_z where_o signify_v that_o which_o begin_v at_o the_o resurrection_n or_o last_o day_n of_o this_o world_n then_o be_v fix_v the_o end_n of_o this_o world_n mat._n 13.39.40_o &_o cap._n 28.20_o and_o then_o begin_v the_o world_n to_o come_v marc._n 10.30_o luc._n 18.30_o eph._n 1.21_o and_o so_o it_o must_v be_v take_v by_o st._n aug._n in_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n cite_v as_o to_o their_o purpose_n for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n not_o forgive_v before_o remittetur_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 24._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la qui_fw-la busdam_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la non_fw-la remittetur_fw-la otherwise_o say_v he_o it_o can_v not_o be_v true_o say_v of_o some_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v neither_o in_o 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who_o sin_n and_o punishment_n it_o do_v in_o part_n cut_v off_o viz_o such_o as_o have_v not_o full_o satisfy_v here_o but_o must_v do_v it_o elsewhere_o then_o will_v epiphanius_n have_v he_o know_v such_o doctrine_n have_v much_o forget_v himself_o and_o betray_v the_o church_n in_o not_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o adversary_n therewith_o to_o conclude_v epiphanius_n his_o answer_n to_o aerius_n must_v come_v to_o this_o albeit_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o as_o you_o misconceive_v the_o intent_n of_o it_o cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n yet_o be_v it_o for_o other_o reason_n profitable_a for_o such_o as_o be_v above_o recite_v another_o thing_n they_o object_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n his_o word_n that_o he_o say_v we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n and_o implore_v mercy_n of_o god_n for_o they_o but_o such_o sinner_n say_v they_o must_v be_v in_o purgatory_n answ_n epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o we_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o just_a and_o also_o of_o sinner_n and_o of_o sinner_n as_o implore_v the_o mercy_n of_o god_n again_o let_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d stand_v which_o some_o question_n as_o put_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d look_v unto_o or_o look_v at_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n and_o let_v it_o sound_v as_o they_o will_v have_v it_o a_o implore_v of_o god_n mercy_n and_o let_v it_o have_v respect_n to_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o dead_a which_o yet_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v but_o seem_v rather_o to_o direct_v it_o to_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n to_o show_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o offend_v all_o in_o this_o world_n as_o above_o note_v we_o all_o need_v mercy_n i_o say_v let_v all_o these_o be_v grant_v it_o will_v amount_v to_o no_o more_o than_o that_o which_o dionysius_n speak_v of_o their_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a at_o his_o carry_v forth_o to_o burial_n that_o all_o his_o sin_n commit_v through_o humane_a weakness_n may_v be_v forgive_v he_o 〈◊〉_d diony_n eccles_n hierar_fw-it c._n 7._o parte_fw-la tertia_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o he_o place_v in_o light_n in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n in_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o now_o see_v what_o this_o author_n say_v of_o that_o pray_n for_o the_o dead_a suitable_a to_o epiphanius_n his_o account_n of_o it_o he_o there_o by_o way_n of_o objection_n put_v the_o question_n ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d diony_n ibid._n by_o what_o prayer_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n can_v he_o the_o dead_a person_n be_v transfer_v into_o any_o other_o seat_n or_o state_n than_o he_o deserve_v to_o be_v in_o how_o obvious_a have_v the_o answer_n of_o purgatory_n be_v here_o have_v it_o be_v know_a doctrine_n then_o but_o nothing_o be_v say_v by_o he_o to_o that_o purpose_n his_o reason_n as_o epiphan_n above_o imply_v that_o the_o intent_n of_o such_o pray_v be_v main_o to_o give_v hope_n and_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n first_o he_o 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then_o in_o relation_n as_o it_o seem_v to_o the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o prayer_n which_o beg_v that_o he_o may_v be_v place_v in_o light_n etc._n etc._n this_o author_n add_v the_o bishop_n or_o priest_n know_v such_o good_a thing_n be_v promise_v and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o pray_v that_o they_o may_v come_v to_o pass_v and_o be_v give_v to_o they_o that_o have_v live_v well_o also_o he_o know_v that_o the_o good_a thing_n promise_v will_v come_v to_o pass_v and_o therefore_o 〈◊〉_d therefore_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o interpreter_n of_o god_n will_n he_o show_v they_o will_v sure_o be_v make_v good_a to_o they_o that_o so_o live_v and_o die_v this_o be_v the_o very_a sum_n of_o his_o answer_n which_o plain_o speak_v comfort_n and_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n his_o conclusion_n be_v this_o wherefore_o the_o bishop_n or_o minister_n pray_v for_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v promise_v of_o god_n and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v render_v and_o perform_v in_o which_o 〈◊〉_d which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o declare_v both_o the_o good_a disposition_n of_o his_o own_o mind_n to_o god_n and_o to_o those_o that_o be_v present_a the_o good_a thing_n which_o shall_v be_v to_o the_o saint_n so_o still_o the_o end_n of_o those_o prayer_n be_v as_o epiphanius_n call_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o preach_v or_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n that_o be_v present_a now_o these_o instruction_n for_o the_o live_n and_o indication_n of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n and_o their_o own_o good_a disposition_n they_o give_v out_o by_o way_n of_o prayer_n and_o wish_v rather_o than_o by_o bare_a assertion_n of_o the_o happy_a estate_n of_o they_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n because_o this_o do_v not_o only_o speak_v such_o truth_n but_o do_v also_o witness_v their_o compliance_n of_o desire_n and_o signify_v their_o affection_n towards_o the_o decease_a and_o 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as_o be_v before_o express_v the_o show_v of_o their_o hope_n of_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n 5._o bel._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-la purgat_fw-la c._n 5._o but_o the_o cardinal_n also_o will_v furnish_v we_o with_o another_o answer_n for_o be_v put_v to_o clear_v a_o objection_n arise_v from_o a_o prayer_n in_o their_o mass_n for_o the_o dead_a which_o run_v thus_o deliver_v o_o lord_n the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v from_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n from_o the_o deep_a lake_n from_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lion_n and_o seem_v not_o to_o agree_v to_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n which_o they_o hold_v be_v deliver_v from_o hell_n and_o sure_a of_o heaven_n he_o answer_v first_o that_o albeit_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n have_v receive_v their_o first_o sentence_n already_o in_o their_o particular_a judgement_n accepturi_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la jam_fw-la acceperint_fw-la primam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la in_o particulart_n judicio_fw-la eaque_fw-la sententia_fw-la liberae_fw-la sunt_fw-la a_o gehenna_n restat_fw-la ●amen_fw-la generale_fw-mi in_fw-la quo_fw-la secundam_fw-la accepturi_fw-la and_o by_o that_o sentence_n be_v deliver_v from_o hell_n yet_o there_o be_v a_o general_n judgement_n behind_o in_o which_o they_o must_v receive_v a_o second_o sentence_n it_o be_v a_o truth_n indeed_o and_o catholic_n doctrine_n that_o sentence_n for_o mercy_n or_o condemnation_n be_v pass_v both_o in_o the_o first_o appear_v of_o the_o soul_n before_o god_n at_o death_n and_o after_o at_o the_o resurrection_n or_o general_a judgement_n when_o the_o sentence_n be_v pronounce_v open_o and_o before_o all_o the_o world_n and_o to_o these_o the_o prayer_n make_v at_o the_o funeral_n and_o afterward_o may_v refer_v without_o suppose_v purgatory_n for_o this_o answer_n of_o the_o cardinal_n
though_o he_o apply_v it_o to_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n will_v fit_v all_o faithful_a soul_n go_v immediate_o to_o bliss_n again_o he_o answer_v the_o church_n use_v the_o same_o manner_n of_o speech_n in_o pray_v yearly_a for_o the_o dead_a as_o if_o their_o soul_n be_v then_o go_v out_o of_o their_o body_n or_o in_o their_o passage_n so_o then_o prayer_n ancient_o make_v for_o the_o dead_a year_n by_o year_n need_v not_o suppose_v their_o sou●s_n be_v in_o purgatory_n for_o such_o prayer_n may_v have_v as_o the_o cardinal_n yield_v ●o_o other_o meaning_n than_o they_o have_v at_o the_o obit_n or_o funeral_n of_o such_o person_n which_o be_v to_o accompany_v they_o as_o it_o be_v to_o god_n tribunal_n and_o to_o instruct_v the_o live_n by_o show_v they_o what_o they_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n have_v forgiveness_n light_n rest_n joy_n thus_o much_o for_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n who_o on_o set_v purpose_n give_v we_o a_o account_n of_o this_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n by_o which_o we_o see_v their_o prayer_n as_o they_o may_v be_v petition_n for_o what_o the_o depart_v be_v yet_o to_o receive_v so_o be_v they_o c●lebrations_n and_o congratulation_n in_o regard_n of_o what_o they_o have_v receive_v and_o in_o both_o instruction_n to_o the_o live_n for_o confirm_v their_o say_v and_o hope_v as_o to_o the_o happy_a state_n of_o those_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n and_o by_o this_o also_o be_v apparent_a what_o be_v intend_v by_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o they_o use_v to_o speak_v no_o more_o than_o the_o remember_v of_o they_o in_o their_o prayer_n there_o and_o then_o offer_v up_o but_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o the_o next_o point_n again_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o dead_a must_v in_o all_o reason_n refer_v to_o such_o a_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a as_o be_v then_o know_v and_o teach_v which_o as_o we_o see_v above_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o purgatory_n first_o it_o be_v hold_v by_o many_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v keep_v in_o a_o secret_a receptacle_n till_o the_o resurrection_n and_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o this_o opinion_n be_v so_o ancient_a give_v the_o first_o beginning_n to_o these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a the_o most_o ancient_a form_n of_o which_o begin_v with_o a_o memento_n domine_fw-la remember_v they_o lord_n because_o they_o hold_v such_o soul_n not_o yet_o admit_v to_o god_n presence_n and_o do_v beg_v that_o god_n will_v give_v they_o refreshment_n refrigerium_fw-la refrigerium_fw-la because_o of_o that_o burn_a desire_n they_o have_v to_o the_o time_n of_o their_o resurrection_n and_o light_n lucem_fw-la lucem_fw-la because_o they_o have_v not_o yet_o the_o heavenly_a light_n of_o the_o beatifical_a vision_n this_o be_v that_o stay_n or_o expectation_n of_o the_o resurrection_n tertul._n mora_fw-la resurrectionis_fw-la tertul._n which_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o sometime_o second_o it_o be_v hold_v by_o most_o as_o above_o also_o be_v show_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o just_a and_o godly_a person_n die_v in_o christ_n go_v to_o bliss_n &_o heavenly_a happiness_n who_o at_o the_o last_o day_n shall_v rise_v first_o and_o receive_v their_o public_a and_o final_a acquittance_n and_o consummation_n and_o certain_o the_o ancient_a church_n in_o her_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a have_v special_a relation_n to_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o resurrection_n find_v how_o much_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o in_o scripture_n 2_o tim._n 1.12.18_o and_o cap._n 4.8_o and_o elsewhere_o and_o to_o this_o do_v also_o refer_v the_o offering_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o they_o eucharist_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n or_o offer_v of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o employ_v first_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n for_o all_o that_o be_v depart_v in_o the_o true_a faith_n of_o christ_n patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n martyr_n and_o all_o other_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n 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