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A02912 An advertisement or admonition, unto the congregations, vvhich men call the new fryelers in the lowe Countries, wrirten [sic] in Dutche. And publiched in Englis. VVherein is handled 4. principall pointes of religion. 1. That Christ tooke his flesh of Marie, haveing a true earthly, naturall bodie, 2. That a Sabbath or day of rest, is to be kept holy everie first day of the weeke. 3. That ther is no succession, nor privilege to persons in the holie thinges. 4. That magistracie, being an holy ordinance of God, debarreth not anie from being of the Church of Christ. After these followes certen demandes concerning Gods decree of salvation and condemnation. Helwys, Thomas, 1550?-1616? 1611 (1611) STC 13053; ESTC S116912 57,734 190

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their false faith are perished and thus are their estates herein most miserable VVhat were sufficient to speake against this wicked blasphemous opinion of theirs which say Christ sufferings and death were but in shewe these are they that in the highest degree deny Christ to be come in the Fle●h or if they did confes●e and beleeve that Christ were come in the Flesh then must they of force confesse that he died for all Flesh must needs dye and be changed as is shewed Isa 10.6 and 1. Pet 1.24 All Flesh is grasse and all the glory thereof is as the Flower of the Feild And all the glory of man is as the Flower of grasse which withereth and Falleth away All the disciples of Ch●ist never made question of his death for they saw and were sore he was dead and therefore they began to doubt of his resurrection through infidelitie which there had bene no cullor for them to doubt of if they had bene of these mens opinion that he died but in shewe In that all that is spoken of the resurrection from the dead is spoken of Christ it shall not be amisse yet further to consider what the holy ghost by the Appostle sheweth in this 1. Cor. 15. Chap. concerning the resurrection from the dead for by his resurrection his death shall appeare This is that then which Thapostl hath sett downe heare concerninge Christs death and resurrectiō and concerning his naturall and earthly bodie and his spi●ituall and heavenly body Thappostle doth shewe first of all in the 3. Vers That Christ died and Vers 20. Now is Christ risen from the dead and Vers 35. there is a question how the dead are raised up to which question the Appostle annsweres speaking of all dead bodies in generall and of Christs dead bodie in particuler whome he hath shewed in the 20. Vers to be the first friuts of them that sleepe That which thou sowest saith Thappostle is not qu●●ned except it dye teaching hereby as he had shewed before that Christs body did dye and all bodies must dye first or els they cannot be quickned that is raised againe from the dead vers 36. Then it being most evidently in this scripture proved That Christ was raised from the dead it is as evidently heere proved that he must needs and did first dye for saith Thappostl● it could not be quickned except it first dye And Thapostl haveing thus annswered to that part of the question in sheweing how the dead are raised then he proceeds to the second question whch is with what bodies come they furth to which questione hee answereth Vers 37.38 Thou sowest not that body that shal be but God giveth it a body at his pleasure to every seed his owne body Heere Thapostle sheweth that Chr. body all bodyes th●t are of Chr. for of those onely doth he speake as appeareth vers 23. are not raised in the resurrection with those bare bodies that are sowen but God giveth a bodie at his pleasure even to every seed his owne body that is to the seed of man all one body to them which are raised in Christ for there is but one Flesh of men The Apostle haveing Heere First shewed that the same bare body that is sowne shall not so be raised up againe then he sheweth what manner of body it shal be in the resurrection and wherein it shall differ from that wch was sowen and died In the 40. vers saith Thappostle there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies and in the 49. vers wee shall ●eare the ●mage of the heavenly Heere is set 〈◊〉 with what manner of bodies the dead are rased and 〈◊〉 being the 〈◊〉 fruits of the dead with such a body was he raysed then followeth how the heavenly body and the earthly body do differ in glo● the earthly body is corrupt dish●norable we●ke naturall and mortall The heavenly body i● incorrupt glorious stronge spirituall immortall The image of the earthly body wee have from the First Adam wch was made saith Thappostle a l●v●ing soule that is naturall and earthly The ymage of the heavenly body all that are of Christ shall have from the last Adam a quic●ing spirit that is spirituall heavenly wch is the ymage of Christs glorious as body after his resurrection Thus wee see the whole d●st and intent of Thappostl in all this scripture is to prove the resurrection from the dead and how the dead rise and with what manner of bodies and all this by Christs death and resurrection because as he died and risse againe in the fair● order vers 23. with the same bodies vers ●9 shall all that are of Christ use againe proveing hereby also that Christ ●d a naturall earthly and mortall body sowen in co●●uption in dishonor and in weakeraised in incorruption in glory in power a spirituall body Heavenly immortall what can be more plainely set downe if men that have eies would see and would not wincke with their eies why will men pervert the scriptures to their owne distruction takeing Heere a peece of a sentence and there a peece and never lookeing to the scope and sence And thus much according to our smale talent to shewe the error of them that are fallen to so deepe distruction as to say God was turned into flesh and so his death and all his sufferings were but in shewe and to say them if by the grace of God it may be that are not fallen so far And now to speake to them that knowe not from whence Christ had his flesh they see it proved that from heaven he could not have it for then there could not possibly have bene infirmitie in it They see further or through the grace of God might se that Christ had a naturall earthly mortall body and that there is but one Flesh of men will they still remaine ignorant and doubting whence Christ had his flesh● then do they still remaine in sinne Let them therefore leave their doubting wch is through their ignorance if they looke for salvation by Christ and let them knowe and beleeve from the scriptures of God That Christ is of the seed of David and of the Isralites according to the Flesh Rom. 2.3 And 9.5 The Sonne of Mary the virgine made of hi● substance Gal. 4.4 And so doth this agree with the First pr●mis●e made concerning Christ Gen. 3.15 VVhere ● is spoken by God That the seed of the woman shall breake the serpents head without wch knowledg and Faith no man shall ever be saved ffor there is no salvation but by Christ the promissed seed of the woman Those the●fore am●●● you that will not knowe and beleeve that Christ is the seed of the woman conceyued in hi● wombe by the power of the most high overshadowing hir shall never be saved by Christ the promissed seed of the woman This then is your great sinne that you suffer manie amongst you that mainteyne a false faith concerning where Christ had his Flesh and you approve
and allowe of some that hold and mainteyne no faith concerning where Christ had his Flesh and so do you approve and mainteyne them in their sinne for whatsoever anie holds or mainteynes not of saith is sinne and to be ignorant of anie part of that the scriptures hath manifested is sinne and to determyne to remaine ignorant and so to continewe unto the end is death for without repentance anie one sinne is death as Thappostle Iames sheweth Iam. 2.10 VVho soever shall kepe the whole law and yet faileth in one point he is giltie of all Deceyve not simple soules then by noriushing them in their sinne which you do in saying it is not needfull to salvation to knowe whence Christ had his Flesh as though there were anie part of the law or gospell not needfull to salvation And if there be anie part of the law not needfull then Christ need not to have come to fulfill the whole law which he did as he saith Mat. 5.17 And if there be anie part of the gospel of salvation which Christ hath purchased with his blood Ephe. 1.13.14 not needfull to salvation then Christ hath purchased more then is needfull In the feare of God walke not thus by your owne inventions leading and suffering simple soules to walke in the waies of death and condemnation Of the day of rest The second is that manie among you and how farr you are all poluted wee knowe not but have great cause to feare do professe practice not to kepe the seaventh day a day of rest holy vnto the lord abolishing herein the law which was given in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assemblie and which was written in the Tables with the finger of God as is shewed Exod. 20.8.9.10.11 and Deut. ● 10 Of all wch whole law our saviour Christ saith Ma● 5 17.18 I am not come to distroy but to fulfill for truely I say vnto you till heaven and earth perish one jot● or one title of the law shall not scape till all thinge● be fulfilled not with standing all the spoken by God the father Iesus Christ his sonne manie of you with an high hand 〈◊〉 out and distroy one of these Ten Commandements written by the finger of God Exod. 34.28 and you will have but Nyne ren●g a sunder the law of God and casting away what is not pleasing vnto you Not holding the examples of the disciples of Christ a sufficient rule of direction for you who as is shewed Act. 20.7 and 1. Cor. 16.1 2. The first day of the weake came together to breake bread Vpon euery vvhich first day of the weeke when they were come together Paul ordeyned in the Churches that every one should lay aside for the necessitie of the Saincts that there might be no gathering when he came How will you be able to stand before the lord herein● H● hath established a law the which it is more easie that heaven and earth should passe away then that one title of the law should fall Iuc 16.17 And if you now be able to shewe which God forbid that anie should be so wicked as to enterp●ise that all these words spoken and written by God himself Remember the Sabath day to keepe it holy be no part jot nor tittle of this law then you have some cullor for the evill you practice and professe herein but dare anie moueth of blasphemy speake it or anie hand of blasphemy write it wee hope no why then give glory to God repent of this your sinne and pray the lord that if it be possible the thoughts of your harts the blasphemy of your mouethes and the wickednes of your hands may be forgiven you And sinne not as you do against God in turning away your feet from the Sabath of the lord and doeing your owne wills on his holy day wherein also you do wronge to man and beast to whome the lord hath in mercie given a speciall day of rest But yet further to shewe you that wich you shall never be able to annswere Our Sauiour Christ Mat. 24.20 speakeing of the distruction of Ierusalem which was to come to passe did long after his death saith Pray that your flight be not in the winter nor on the Sabath day sheweing vndenyably that ther should still remaine a speciall day of rest for the people of God to worship him on vpon which day Christs bidds them pray that their flight be not that they might not be forced to flie whē they should rest and worshipp God And if our Saviour Christ had ment that his disciples should have bene of your iudgment it had bene all one vpon what day their flight had bene God give you grace to see your great error herein that you may not still be hate full to God and men and Beasts And thus much of this except further occation be offered Omitting to shewe you all the confusion you bring into the Church when there shal be no day certen whereon the disciples ought to come together to edifie one an other to breake bread to pray and to gather for the Saincts if your rule be true which is as false as God is true they chuse whether they will come at all except you have authoritie to make a law to bind them which sure you have not from God even so do you confound hereby all due proceeding in the rule of admonition by the Church if there be no certen day when the Church are bound to meet But wee wi●l passe by this hopeing you will fall vnder the former ground and then you will easily see through the grace of God all these thinges and manie mo●e which accompanie that your error that do vtterly destroy all godlines Religion and the holy communion of Saincts Therefore repēt and forsake this your error for if you do thus distroy the lawe of God there can be no Religion of God in you Of Succession T● 〈…〉 your Leaders are 〈…〉 them that mainteyne a Succession and that 〈…〉 and you will have all 〈…〉 and tongues to come to you and 〈…〉 Ordinances of Christ and 〈…〉 administer in the holy 〈…〉 to you and 〈…〉 and 〈◊〉 power and all the holy 〈…〉 with the man of sinne 〈…〉 called o● God and 〈…〉 vnder the 〈…〉 vnder the 〈…〉 Rom. 3.1.2 〈…〉 because 〈…〉 of God 〈…〉 your 〈…〉 manner of way 〈…〉 of credit to 〈…〉 but 〈…〉 confess● 〈…〉 and the 〈…〉 vnto 〈…〉 proceed from 〈…〉 Ierusalem 〈…〉 call your 〈…〉 you and 〈…〉 do to your 〈…〉 them to it and to them everlasting distruction in so d●ing and suffering them selves to be to dra●n Thus then 〈…〉 speake of the heavenly 〈…〉 And 〈◊〉 people shall 〈…〉 vp to the mountaine of the 〈◊〉 to the 〈…〉 of the God of 〈…〉 will 〈…〉 S●on and 〈…〉 manner speaketh 〈…〉 ●rd shall send the 〈…〉 these Prophecies 〈…〉 〈…〉 become 〈…〉 you this 〈…〉 〈◊〉 taught the 〈…〉 when he said 〈…〉 word of
they do by vertue of that Magistracie which is sinne must needs also be sinne Hereby you charge the most high god to ordeyne give power from himself to Magistrats to sinne so you make it sinne in them to punish thē that do evill and to praise or reward the weldoers although they do it by the power and comaundmēt of god mainteyning hereby that god gives power comaundment to sinne what a fearefull estate condition is this where vnto this your error hath brought you how will they answere it that have do so stiftly mainteyne teach this error is this the least comaundement that they breake teach men so Mat. 5.25 To blaspheame the name of god in makeing him the author of sinne saying the holy ordinance of Magistracie which he hath ordeyned is sinne which they say that mainteyne that Magistrats may not be of the kingdome of heaven nor admitted of the Church except they first cast away their Magistracie for there being nothinge to be cast away to enter into the kingdome of heaven but sinne if there be no entring for Magistrats but by casting away their Magistracie then must it needs be said that Magistracie is sinne VVee go often over this point that wee might move you with carefull advised ●es to consider of it which wee beseech you by the love of god to do and not to dishonor god and your profession by such errors This which T●-appost●e writes to the Romaines Chap. 13. and that which is spoken from that place might suffice for this whole cause of Magistracie for their power auctoritie and administration but it must yet be opposed to another ground that is held and strongly mainteyned against Magistracie whereby the most simple harted are deceived and that is this The weapons of our warefare are not carnall but mightie through god to cast downe holds 2. Cor. 10.4 ffrom this Scripture divers that holds there may be some sorts of Magistrats to end causes and questions do yet hold that in anie case they may not make warr nor put men to death It is to be lamented with the teare of mens soules to see the simple harted thus mi●led and they are deceived vnder a dangerous cullor and great shewe of holines not seeing the deceipt of Sathan who transformes himself into an Angell of sight herein for what holie hart will not easilie be brought to thinke that war● is an vnchristianlike thinge where there is so much slaughter and blood shedd and which is accompanied with so manie calamities and mi● and which is followed mainteyned by so great force and violence by the arme of flesh so likewise is it a lamentable thinge that men should be executed and put to death by sentence of la● for offences Such Magistrats you will in no case admitt of wee pray you consider how should such Magistrats as some of you would allowe of order and determyne causes of controversie without the sword of justice who would obey their orders and decrees if they had no power to cōstraine would evill doers be perswaded by words to do well and would wronge doers by perswation do right why if they would not then were all your Magistrats labor lost they are but weake ymaginations to ymagine in your mynds that there can be such Magistrats but let vs come to your ground Thus speakes the Appostle 2 Co●o The weapons of our warfare are not carnal the ground and cause of this Th-appostles speach is this There were certen false Appostles Chap. 11 13-20 cropt in amonge the Corintheans that made a goodly shewe and exalted themselves and had brought the people in bondage and to vphold them selves in this their exaltation they sought to disgrace Th-appostle Paul And because his writings were of great power and aucthoritie that they could not ●●sten the aucthoritie of them therefore they sought to disgrace his person Chap. 10. vers 10. his letters saith one are fore and stronge but his bodilie presence is weake and his speach 1. of no value To this Th-appostle answeres vers 1. looke ye on thinges after the apperance and vers 2. esteeme you vs as though wee walked after the flesh though wee walke in the fesh yet wee warr not after the flesh for the weapons of our warfare are not carnall In all this shewing and teaching them that they should not esteeme of him according to the out ward apparance in the flesh for he came not to make a great outward boasting shewe and to subdue and bring men in bondage by such mennes but by the power of the spirit for saith he The weapōs of our warfare are not carnall but saith thappostle Chap. 13.23 Seeing that ye seeke experience of Christ that speaketh in me let them knowe that have sinned heretofore and all others also that if I come againe I will not spare All this much more to this sence speakes he to the Corinthians And to him that spake those thinges he saith Chap. 10. vers 11. Let such on thinke that such as wee a●e in word by letters when wee are absent such also will wee be indeed when wee are present Thus th-appostle labors to shewe them that his ministerie was spirituall by the power whereof he came amongst them but seeing they sought to disgrace his ministerie by disgraceing his person they should see he would be the same in his deed present that they confessed him to be in writing absent with what vnderstanding can men gather from hence that there may be no other weapons vsed in the world then such weapons as th-appostle Paul vsed heere in his ministerie of Appostleship against false Appostles wee have written thus much of this that you might see how you are seduced by misapplying the words of the Scripture from the sence which is too vsuall amongst you VVel therin this place wee have learned of th-appostle what were his weapons in the ministerie of his Appostle ship teaching the Disciples of Christ to vse onely such weapons in the like ministerie Now let vs also for a full 〈◊〉 of this point in hand be taught of the same Appostle 〈◊〉 teaching by the same spirit and aucthoritie 〈◊〉 with what weapons Magistrats must administer withall in the office of their Magistracie And that is shewed Rom. 13. where it is said they beare not the sword for nought for they are the ministers of God to take v●gance on them that do evill Heere are the words sence of the scripture goeing together that evidently without all condiction that God hath given Magistrats power from himself and a sword to punish and take vengance of all evill doers for if they may take vengance of one then of Ten so of Ten thousand this hath god appointed ordeyned comaunded who is a gra●ious me●cifull god full of pittie compassion yea more compassionate then all men can be and therefore let not men pretend holines in this their compassionate and pitifull disposition that would