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A61703 The Malice of the independent-agent again rebuked and his falshood detected chiefly about the man Jesus Christ, in reply to his answer to a sheet entituled The independent-agent. Stout, Henry. 1678 (1678) Wing S5771; ESTC R32677 18,469 28

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directly contrary to David's Testimony in the Psalm cited See now where the Contradiction is evidently placed by us 'T is between W. Haworth and the Prophet David and not between the Apostle Paul and David Another of William Haworth's Forgeries is that William Bates saith He is ONLY SORRY for his Weakness and Over-sight in giving him any such Answer We told him he addeth Only Sorry and makes himself work on this Lye To come off with an Excuse here he tells us The word ONLY the Printer should have put into another Character As if another Character would make that true which is an apparent Lye as in his saying That William Bates in his Retractation saith he is only sorry c. for 't was none of his saying nor sense of all he says in his Retractation and neither consist in the Emphasis which a different Character may shew And William Haworth does not at all amend his matter by saying that William Bates mentions not any more that he is sorry for but that he gave him such an Answer If for nothing else for that only Here he makes his own implicite Consequence to prove that William Bates said that in his Retractation which he did not say viz. that he is ONLY SORRY c. which words are not there William Haworth is a Forger in this and many more things against us then as yet we divulged Besides William Bates did not only acknowledge his Weakness in giving any such Answer as is cited in his Retractation but also clears the People called Quakers from teaching or holding any such thing to his Knowledge and likewise from William Haworth's Reproaching them on that Occasion as being No Christians but Seducers c. which with many more False Aspersions he has cast upon us Subscribed on the Behalf of Truth our selves and the rest of our Friends concerned Hertford 3d mon. 1678. Henry Stout Henry Sweeting Richard Thomas Richard Martin Edward Plumsted The Publication of this has been occasionally delayed for 't was writ not long after our Adversary's Answer came out A Postscript in Answer to William Haworth 's QVESTIONS SInce that William Haworth hath been far louder in his Charge against us then in his Proofs either from the Dispute at Barbican London which in his Antidote he unjustly quoted or from any of our Writings since pretended by him for Proof viz. That we deny the Manhood of Christ and Jesus of Nazareth to be the Christ But on the contrary to discover his shortness and failure of proof he is fain after all to Query us and put Questions to sift us further p. 8. for matter against us However wee 'l adventure a brief and plain Answer Question I do but query what is become of that Flesh wherein he i. Christ was manifested is that Flesh now in being and if so where is it in every place or circumscribed in Heaven Answer That Flesh saw no Corruption but was raised from the Dead Acts 2. 31. Christ did rise in that Body wherein he suffered and in the same ascended into the Heavens where the Patriarch David did not as to his B●dy which was in the Sepulchre Acts 2. 29 to ver 36. And that very Body of Christ which was rais'd from the dead or that flesh which saw no Corruption how should it but be in being ‖ In our Testimony for the Man Christ pag. 7. we plainly told him our Belief viz. That the Man Christ did neither vanish nor perish in any thing essential to him either as to his Soul Spirit or Body that is in that Spiritual Sense we have given seeing he dyed not again according to Rom. 6. 9 Knowing Christ being raised from the dead dyeth no more Death hath no more dominion over him his dying was only as to the Body he was put to death as concerning the Flesh therefore the Flesh was raised from the dead Circumscribed It is so far circumscribed or encompassed in the Heavens as 't is capable of and as is proper to it and though it be spiritual and glorious yet a Body therefore not in every place where God is And as he has told us It is not limited or confined to any one place or corner as it were of Heaven To be Omnipresent is only proper to God and not to Bodies Q. How do they but deny the Manhood of Christ that say the Body of Jesus is changed as to Substance and his Soul is in every Saint Answ 1st They do not deny the Manhood of Christ that say his Body is so changed as to the quality and glory of it that it is a spiritual heavenly and glorious Body in a higher state then when on Earth under Sufferings this is no annihilating of the Body 2dly That his Soul doth powerfully extend to and is in every Saint in some sense and degree this must needs be if it act together in union with the Deity in perfecting all good in us as our Adversary has coufessed as also that it is virtually in the Saints Though we grant that it is in more fulness in himself then in us yet of his fulness we have all received Q. They own they say the real Birth Suffering and Resurrection of Christ but do they own bis Intercession in his Manhood as an High Priest in Heaven Answ Yes we do He is entred into Heaven it self to appear in the Face of God for us yet not wholely exclusively out of the Saints For this High Priest who is set on the Right Hand of the Throne of the Majesty in the Heavens is a Minister of the Sanctuary and of the true Tabernacle which is with men even with such whose Minister Leader Christ is And God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into our Hearts crying Abba Father The Spirit makes intercession with Sighs and Groans c. W. H. So that as man he is not materially here on Earth Answ An impertinent and fallacious Addition if he own him not as man in any sense on Earth For doth not this imply that as Man he is immaterially on earth If by materially he means he is not corporally on earth as in the dayes of his Flesh we grant it But then we may not deny his being on Earth Spiritually and virtually as Man he being the spiritual and heavenly Man the Lord FROM Heaven and a quickening Spirit Else how are any on Earth quickened by him And how did he walk in the midst of the seven Golden Candle-sticks which were the seven Churches Rev 1. W. H. These are Scripture words Acts 3. 21. Whom the Heaven must receive or contein the reading will bear it until the time of the restitution of all things Is not that whom the Man Christ His Deity cannot be conteined any where Answ 1st Whom the Heaven must receive or take it is not contein nor retein and sometimes Heaven in the New Testament-Scriptures is put for God himself 2. It is times in the plural viz. whom Heaven chiefly