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which_o lie_v at_o the_o bottom_n because_o than_o he_o must_v renounce_v his_o opinion_n for_o it_o will_v thence_o follow_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o he_o have_v learn_v from_o mr._n tomb_n to_o give_v a_o ponderous_a reason_n why_o though_o there_o be_v some_o analogy_n we_o must_v not_o own_v it_o to_o come_v in_o the_o room_n and_o stead_n of_o circumcision_n 7._o tomb_n again_o exercitation_n p._n 7._o viz._n because_o there_o be_v a_o analogy_n between_o other_o thing_n and_o baptism_n and_o we_o may_v on_o the_o same_o account_n say_v it_o come_v in_o the_o room_n and_o stead_n of_o they_o as_o the_o ark_n manna_n rock_n and_o from_o such_o like_a argument_n draw_v from_o analogy_n what_o jewish_a rite_n may_v by_o our_o wit_n be_v introduce_v to_o the_o countenance_v the_o papist_n in_o their_o highpriesthood_n tithe_n but_o will_v he_o never_o have_v do_v
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that_o when_o the_o say_a dr._n speak_v of_o harding_n the_o jesuit_n a_o base_a apostate_n and_o grand_a enemy_n of_o the_o gospel_n it_o be_v with_o term_n of_o honour_n and_o reverence_n as_o dr._n john_n harding_n one_o of_o the_o divine_n of_o louvain_n and_o the_o most_o learned_a of_o the_o college_n pag._n 128._o but_o when_o he_o speak_v of_o those_o glorious_a light_n of_o the_o reformation_n it_o be_v bare_o luther_n zwinglius_fw-la calvin_n in_o like_a manner_n we_o have_v here_o one_o balthasar_n huebmer_n a_o dr._n in_o waldshnot_n a_o great_a preacher_n of_o this_o way_n in_o bohemia_n etc._n etc._n when_o in_o a_o leaf_n or_o two_o before_o we_o have_v no_o venerable_a title_n give_v to_o those_o famous_a divine_n of_o the_o reformation_n but_o it_o be_v plain_a luther_n zwinglius_fw-la calvin_n i_o have_v meet_v with_o this_o huebmer_n in_o several_a author_n without_o the_o title_n of_o dr._n which_o make_v i_o think_v he_o be_v a_o dr._n of_o h._n d._n his_o 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deceive_v say_v zwinglius_fw-la i_o never_o perceive_v any_o thing_n in_o he_o but_o a_o immoderate_a thirst_n after_o profit_n and_o glory_n mr._n tomb_n conclude_v modest_o and_o say_v only_o this_o i_o leave_v he_o to_o his_o judge_n to_o who_o he_o stand_v or_o fall_v this_o huebmer_n be_v call_v by_o melchior_n adam_n princeps_fw-la catabaptistarum_fw-la the_o chief_a of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o the_o head_n of_o they_o that_o dispute_v with_o zwinglius_fw-la at_o zurich_n 30._o alpha_n eorum_fw-la fuit_fw-la balthasar_n hubmerus_fw-la apostatà _fw-la iterum_fw-la iterumque_fw-la factus_fw-la qui_fw-la zwinglii_n beneficio_fw-la liberatus_fw-la tantis_fw-la convictis_fw-la utrum_fw-la bene_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la meritum_fw-la onerare_fw-la nebulo_fw-la non_fw-la dubitavit_fw-la ut_fw-la apologiâ_fw-la satisfacere_fw-la fratribus_fw-la habuerit_fw-la necesse_fw-la melch._n adam_n pag._n 30._o and_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o be_v a_o apostate_n several_a time_n who_o be_v free_v 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