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A27112 Certamen religiosum, or, A conference between the late King of England and the late Lord Marquesse of Worcester concerning religion together with a vindication of the Protestant cause from the pretences of the Marquesse his last papers which the necessity of the King's affaires denyed him oportunity to answer. Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657? 1651 (1651) Wing B1507; ESTC R23673 451,978 466

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and_o bellarmine_n pretend_v that_o athan._n the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v and_o the_o rabbin_n do_v expound_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gehinnom_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n where_o the_o damn_a be_v in_o torment_n but_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v so_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o that_o limbus_n which_o they_o contend_v for_o 2._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o those_o author_n do_v usual_o so_o expound_v the_o word_n for_o the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v for_o the_o most_o part_n keep_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n itself_o only_o sometime_o it_o be_v a_o little_a change_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shiol_n and_o many_o time_n do_v he_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d kebura_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d keburta_fw-mi that_o be_v the_o grave_a to_o express_v the_o hebrew_n sheol_n by_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v keburta_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_a as_o job._n 7._o 9_o and_o 14._o 13._o and_o 17._o 13._o and_o 16._o psal_n 89._o 48._o and_o 141._o 7._o and_o eccles_n 9_o 10._o in_o all_o these_o place_n do_v the_o chaldie_n pharaphra_v render_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n the_o grave_n or_o the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_n let_v any_o romanist_n show_v that_o he_o render_v it_o so_o often_o by_o that_o word_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n of_o torment_n though_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o be_v nothing_o to_o their_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o thus_o also_o do_v the_o rabbin_n interpret_v the_o word_n sheol_n r._n levi_n say_v that_o sheol_n do_v signify_v the_o grave_a and_o that_o therefore_o it_o be_v put_v for_o death_n 2_o sam._n 22._o 6._o 10._o so_o also_o r._n nathan_n mordecai_n in_o his_o hebrew_a concordance_n say_v that_o the_o interpretation_n of_o sheol_n be_v the_o grave_a aben_n ezra_n also_o say_v the_o same_o in_o his_o commentary_n on_o gen._n 37._o 35._o and_o moreover_o he_o tax_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a 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god_n so_o nigh_o at_o hand_n how_o do_v thing_n heavenly_a and_o eternal_a succeed_v thing_n earthly_a and_o fade_a if_o after_o this_o life_n the_o soul_n of_o christian_n may_v continue_v many_o hundred_o year_n perhaps_o in_o the_o flame_n of_o purgatory_n before_o they_o can_v get_v to_o heaven_n may_v not_o this_o well_o make_v every_o one_o to_o fear_v death_n and_o to_o tremble_v at_o the_o approach_n of_o it_o may_v not_o a_o christian_a at_o his_o death_n well_o cry_v imperat_fw-la out_o with_o the_o heathen_a emperor_n o_o poor_a soul_n whither_o be_v thou_o now_o go_v but_o ibid._n cyprian_n go_v on_o and_o cite_v that_o of_o simeon_n lord_n now_o let_v thou_o thy_o servant_n depart_v in_o peace_n for_o my_o eye_n have_v see_v thy_o salvation_n he_o add_v that_o then_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n have_v peace_n than_o they_o have_v free_a and_o calm_a quietness_n when_o be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o tempest_n of_o this_o world_n we_o arrive_v at_o the_o haven_n of_o eternal_a rest_n and_o security_n when_o as_o this_o death_n be_v pass_v we_o come_v to_o immortality_n and_o so_o again_o god_n do_v promise_v immortality_n and_o eternity_n unto_o thou_o when_o thou_o go_v out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o do_v thou_o doubt_v this_o be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o know_v god_n this_o be_v to_o offend_v christ_n the_o lord_n and_o master_n of_o believer_n with_o the_o sin_n of_o unbelief_n this_o be_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n the_o house_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o to_o have_v no_o faith_n how_o profitable_a it_o be_v to_o go_v out_o of_o the_o world_n christ_n himself_o the_o master_n of_o our_o salvation_n and_o welfare_n do_v show_v who_o when_o his_o disciple_n be_v sorrowful_a because_o he_o say_v he_o be_v to_o leave_v they_o say_v if_o you_o have_v love_v i_o you_o will_v rejoice_v because_o i_o go_v to_o the_o father_n joh._n 14._o 28._o teach_v we_o that_o we_o shall_v rather_o rejoice_v then_o be_v sorry_a when_o they_o depart_v out_o of_o the_o world_n 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