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A54908 The spirit of error, found and discovered, in the accounted pastors and teachers of the island Bermuda, in the VVest-Indies their principles and practice also tryed by the true spirit, and found to be contrary to the Scriptures of truth, and disproved by them, though pleaded for by the strongest arguments, the said teachers could bring forth : in an answer to some queries that were sent unto them, by us called Quakers : which answer was subscribed with all their names hereafter mentioned : their deceit unfolded for the peoples sake of the island / by ... Richard Pinder. Pinder, Richard, d. 1695. 1660 (1660) Wing P2264; ESTC R10836 20,271 25

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of the first Founders and Owners of that Colony so that by your Preaching the Inhabitants are not put to one peny more charges by us say you Answ But nevertheless though you have not your Wages from them whom you Preach unto this doth not make it that you are no Hirelings for we believe you make little matter whom you have it on so you have it And who is there that knoweth the state of that Island and doth not know how much the people thereof are oppressed by them whom you say payes you your Salaries that it is still but the money of Oppression For doth not the Inhabitants of the Island whom you preach unto pay unto them of whom you receive your Wages one peny half peny forth of every pound of Tobacco that they send for England except they get it away by stealth which is accounted great Oppression much more then that of Tythes And do not they your Masters who Hire you tell the Inhabitants of the Island that they take that penny half penny out of every Pound of Tobacco in part for paying you your Wages And also for your challenging of us whom you account your Adversaries to prove that the Inhabitants are put to one penny charge by you for your Preaching We say You need not have made such a great challenge for we can easily prove and bring the Inhabitants to witness for us that you put them every year to many a penny charge by Repairing the Houses you dwell in and if they do it not just when you would have them will you not frown at them So this your cover is ripped open and your challenge returned upon your selves that your nakedness more and more appears for the day hath broken forth which makes all your deceit manifest and Praises be unto the Lord many he hath visited by it who begin to see your folly and weakness concerning the things of God and are declining from you that they may be brought to know the Lord their Teacher by his Law which he hath written in their hearts and this is the Lord fulfilling for his own mercy sake in spite of all envious men who gnawes their Tongues for grief and pain Again the Priests say in their Answer to our 17th Querie which was concerning their Preaching by an Hour-glass That they have the Warrant of the custom of the Churches of God for it which they say is a sufficient Warrant against all contentious spirits and they bring 1 Cor. 11.16 to prove it by Answ That place of Scripture doth not speak any thing of the Apostles preaching by an Hour-glass as you do that we can justly contend for the Truth against your Deceit in this And I charge you three Priests to prove where ever there was such a Custom among the true gathered Churches who was gathered by the Spirit of the Lord and witnessed Praying and Prophesying by it Are you not ashamed to scandalize the Churches of God in saying it was their custom to preach by an Hour-glass But will any that have read the Scripture believe you Certainly none but who are willingly as blind as your selves Again The Priests to prove the sprinkling of Infants lawful they bring the Command of God to Abraham to Circumcise And they say sprinkling of Infants which they call Baptism came in in the room of it For they say Though they be different in the External Sign yet they are one and the same in the Inward and Spiritual Grace signified by the Signs for they say both Baptism and Circumcision signifie a being in Covenant with God and Gods Command to Abraham to Circumcise will warrant Baptising of Infants Answ As for sprinkling of Infants that without controversie was never commanded of God but is an Invention of the Popes who commanded it to be done with the sign of the Cross and though you have left it off and are become disobedient to your father the Pope yet nevertheless he was the first Author of it Though you disobey his Command and will not do it with his sign the Cross but do it after your own Invention and so you are found acting contrary to the Apostles Rule by adding your own Inventions For they never received a Command neither gave a Command to sprinkle Infants and so you are found out of their Rule and your fathers Rule the Pope also and are not faithful to his Church which is your Churches Mother that you as Rebellious Children kick against him yet you may thank him for first Instituting this Ordinance as you call it of sprinkling Infants which you in your ignorance say The Command of God to Abraham to Circumcise will warrant you in But all whose eyes God hath opened out of that great slumber you are in sees that the Command given to Abraham to Circumcise will no more warrant you in sprinkling of Infants your way than it will do the Pope in his way For we know Circumcision was given a Seal unto Abraham of the righteousness of Faith which he had being uncircumcised Rom. 4.11 but as for your sprinkling of Infants we know nothing that it is a Seal of except of your own ignorance And as for your saying that sprinkling of Infants came in the room of Circumcision do you not think that all whose understanding the Lord hath opened by his eternal Spirit will take notice of your ignorance and blindness in this thing For Circumcision as you may read Rom. 2.28 29. is not that of the Outward in the Flesh but is of the Heart in the Spirit c. That all who are not blind may see that Circumcision of the Heart with the Spirit endeth that of the Outward in the Flesh Gal. 5.6 1 Cor. 7.19 Gal. 6.15 That as for your sprinkling of Infants it is but a meer Invention and was never commanded of God as Circumcision in its time was neither ever was it practised among any we read of that in the Apostles daies by the Spirit was gathered into fellowship with the Lord for they spoke of one Faith one Baptism and were Baptised by one Spirit into one Body and so was in oneness of mind and judgement one with another for the Spirit by which they were Baptised into the death and suffering of Christ made them of one mind and soul which you three Priests who plead for the Popish institution sprinkling of Infants are not For do you not differ among your selves about it One crying of it up to be done after his way and to whose Children he will and another another way to whom he will and so are in your ignorance at difference amongst your selves But do you not think people begins to take notice of you and to see your folly though you joyn all your Forces together against the Truth and though you joyn in union with Death and Hell and make lies your Refuge Yet Judgement is laid to the Line Righteousness to the Plummet and Hail shal sweep away the refuge