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A57953 Quakerism is paganism, by W.L.'s confession; in a book directed to Mr. N.L. citizen of London: or, Twelve of the Quakers opinions, called by W.L. The twelve pagan principles, or opinions; for which the Quakers are opposed to Christians examined and presented to William Penn. By W. R. a lover of Christianity. Russel, William, d. 1702.; Roberts, Daniel, 1658-1727. aut 1674 (1674) Wing R2358; ESTC R219761 57,659 96

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Properties of a Humane Person were found in Christ Ergo he was a Real and True Man To deny the consequence of the Major is to take away the very Rule of Distinction between the Species of different Creatures so that if that be denyed then they may call a Man a Horse and no body can contradict them The Minor I prove thus The Scripture tells us that Christ was made Flesh and made of the Seed of DAVID according to the Flesh made of a Woman did partake of the same Flesh and Blood that Children do that he was Born of the Virgin Mary he did hunger and thirst eat and drink speak and sleep was lyable to all our Temptations yea was Tempted in all points as we are did Travel from one place to another was exposed to so many Sufferings that he was called A MAN of Sorrows and lastly as the greatest Demonstration thereof He who had a Reasonable Soul and a True Body did lay down his Life as a Ransom for us being himself Subject to Death even the Death of the Cross from all which I draw this Conclusion Christ was a Real and true Man But saith W. L. God manifest in the Flesh is yet so great a Mystery that I know no Catechisms free from some seeming incongruities attending the questions about it 〈◊〉 Sure he should have excepted Smith's Catechism and the Catechism of the Quakers great Prophet George Fox for they say they speak and write by an Infalliable Spirit unless he doth not believe they have Immediate Revelation for the Rule of their Faith and Practice notwithstanding they so confidently Assert it But perhaps we are to understand him thus That though there be some seeming Incongruities in them yet they are not Really Incongruous if so then the dispute about that point may soon be ended But to take him as I conceive he would be understood and as indeed his words do signifie then it 's to make this Doctrine so doubtful that in his sence it is lost labour to enquire about the Truth of the Proposition viz. Whether Christ be Really a distinct Person without us or no and a thing not to be Resolved To that I would give this Answer It doth not follow that because there may be some Questions asked about the Manner how that great Work was Accomplished of God's being Manifest in the Flesh which is the wonder of Men and Angels that cannot be resolved by any Man That therefore we should disown it as the Quakers do and conclude that no man can know de facto that such a thing was For though I do not know what moved W. L. to write nor what reward he expects for writing yet I know he did write W. L. cannot tell me how the Bones do grow in the Womb of her that is with Child and yet he knows they did grow there or else they had not been He cannot tell me how the Corn that is cast into the Earth doth grow to be what it is at Harvest and yet he knows it is so A Stalk an Ear c. By the same Argument that W. L. makes it doubtful whether Christ be a distinct Person without us and the Quakers deny him so to be a man may make it doubtful yea deny that ever the Heavens and Earth were made and so not only be no Christian but an Atheist for it 's evident when the most learned Men come to examine every point concerning the Creation of the Heavens and Earth and the things therein as how and what and where and in what manner and when things were done it doth astonish them all to consider the difficulties which they find and the depth of such infinite and inscrutable Mysteries We may as well by William Luddington's way of reasoning conclude that these things had no beginning nay that they are not notwithstanding the Scripture saith so plainly Gen. 1. 1. In the Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth and we see them with our Eyes And by the same parity of Reason because our Saviour saith John 3. 8. That the Wind bloweth where it listeth and thou hearest the sound thereof but canst not tell whence it cometh and whither it goeth A Man may conclude that the Wind hath not its Origination and Termination but how absurd such a conclusion would be I leave to the Judicious to determine I hope W. L. will acknowledg That it is the Indispensable duty of all Men to know God and to believe that he is and yet there may be some Questions asked about it that no man living can resolve I believe the Quakers themselves though they say their Soul is a part of God and the light they have in them is God himself yet they would be as much puzzled and find as hard a Task on 't as W. L. saith one Simonides did when he took upon him to define what God was But must we therefore turn Fools and Atheists like him that Holy David speaks of Psalm 14. 1. And say in our Hearts there is no God Reader I am greatly offended when I find men trifle as this Man doth about the most Sacred and Divine Truths of the Gospel and strain their Wits to root up Religion out of the minds of Men for I know through grace that nothing can make a man so happy as to be truely Religious that inriches the Soul with Divine Truths and Heavenly Graces but these Men take away him whom the Father hath anointed and filled with Grace and Truth and appointed to reveal unto us the most glorious Truths of the Gospel and to give us Grace to inable us to obey his Will from whom the Apostles and first Christians did receive BOTH John 1. 16 17. And of his fulness have all we received and Grace for Grace For the Law was given by Moses but GRACE and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ It 's not sufficient for them to say they do own there is a Christ when they intend not the MAN Christ Jesus but a Christ of their own setting up and adoring as such to wit the Light within them For our Saviour saith If ye believe not that I am HE ye shall dye in your Sins John 8. 24. The JEWS could have said asmuch for themselves as that and more too for they did not deny a Messiah but believed he should come yea and be a MAN also when he did come yet they and the Quakers are both agreed that the Man Christ Jesus that is come in the Flesh is not HE and that the True Christ can never dye and be made a Sacrifice for Sin That the Jews were of this Opinion see John 12. 32 33 34. And I if I be lifted up from the Earth will draw all men unto me This he said signifying what death he should dye The People answered him We have heard out of the Law That CHRIST abideth for EVER And how sayest thou the SON of MAN must be lift up Who is this SON of MAN That made
well have said that Christ was Born Dead and Buried in the Prophet Isaiah's time because it 's said Isa 9 6. Vnto us a Child is Born and Chap. 53. 11. he hath poured out his Soul unto Death vers 9. and he made his Grave with the wicked and with the rich in his death All this being spoken in the present and preterperfect tense But if the Light within them can interpret Scripture no better I will not consult it as my Oracle By this time I hope not only these Objections are removed but all others of the like import may easily be answered by these Distinctions which I should have particularly spoken to only the Paper allotted me will not permit of it Fourthly That it doth properly and really belong to that sacred Person who was Conceived by the Holy Ghost Born of the Virgin Mary and called by the name of Jesus of Nazareth To make this good I shall use this method 1. Shew you what this Sacred Person is 2. That that very Person who is called Jesus of Nazareth is also called Christ 3. That the Name Christ doth properly and really belong to him 1. To shew you what this Sacred Person is I do affirm That he is both God and Man and that the Hypostatical Vnion of his Divine and Humane Nature doth so constitute this Sacred Person that both of them as united are the Christ of God And that when the Scripture speaks of acts done by him as Christ they are to be understood as performed by that Person so considered To make this good I shall prove three things 1. That this Sacred Person is God And because the Quakers own him whom they call Christ to be God I shall only cite that known place Rom. 9. 5. Whose are the Fathers and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came who is over all God blessed for ever Amen 2. That he is also truly Man 1. Tim. 2. 5. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and Men the MAN Christ Jesus Acts 2. 22 23. Ye men of Israel hear these words Jesus of Nazareth a MAN approved among you by Miracles Wonders and Signs which God did by him in the midst of you as ye your selves also know Him ye have taken and by wicked hands have crucified and slain But if he had not been truly Man he could not have been put to death by the hands of men for as I have proved before it is impossible for the Deity to become Mortal But I shall say no more to this here having proved Christ to be a real and true Man p. 18 19. to which I refer you 3. That those acts done by him as Christ are to be understood as performed by that Person considered as God and Man For the better understanding of this consider 1. That some acts done by him cannot be performed as he is God taken Abstractively for as such he cannot be made flesh he cannot die and be made a Sacrifice for sin 2. That some acts also are done by him which cannot be performed by his Humane Nature taken Abstractively for as such he cannot know all things he cannot be every-where present neither could he have given plenary Satisfaction to the Justice of God for the sins of men had not his Humanity been supported by his Divine Nature and united to it 3. And yet that these things are ascribed to him as he is a Person consisting both of the Divine and Humane Nature And that this is so I will give you some few instances 1. That in Acts 20. 28. Feed the Church of God which he hath purchased with his own blood Here the Person spoken of is said to be God absolutely the Church of God And this God is said to have blood of his own the blood of Jesus Christ being the blood of him that was God though not the blood of him as God for God is a Spirit and a Spirit hath no blood to shed But it was Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom the Jews Crucified Acts 4. 10. it is his Blood that cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1. 7. And this being considered it undeniably testifies to the Vnity of his Person as God and Man 2. That in John 3. 13. And no man hath ascended up into Heaven but he that came down from Heaven even the Son of man which is in Heaven And that in John 17. 5. And now O Father glorifie thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the World was Now these things cannot be applied to the Humane Nature taken Abstractively for that had no Being and so could have no Glory with the Father before the World was neither did he as such come down from Heaven nor could he be in Heaven and on Earth with his Humane Nature at one and the same time And yet as he was both God and Man in one Person by the Figure Synecdoche all this is truly spoken of him But why the Quakers should pretend to relieve themselves by this Figure and say That the Body is sometimes called Christ unless they did own the Humane Nature to be a part of Christ I cannot understand because it always signifies a part of that whole of which it is predicated 2. I shall prove That that very Person who is called Jesus of Nazareth is also called Christ Joh. 1. 41. We have found the Messias which is being interpreted the Christ John 4. 25 26. The woman saith unto him I know that Messias cometh which is called Christ when he is come he will tell us all things Jesus saith unto her I that speak unto thee am HE. And many moe believed because of his own word and said unto the woman Now we believe not because of thy saying for we have heard him our selves And know that this is indeed the Christ the Saviour of the World vers 41 42. And this doth not only prove him to be the Christ but such a Person that the People saw with their eyes and heard with their ears notwithstanding the Quakers have the confidence to say Christ was never seen with Carnal eyes nor heard with Carnal ears 3. That the name Christ doth properly and really belong to him is evident 1. Because he hath that Name given him in the holy Scriptures And the Quakers say They are a true Declaration of the mind of God and therefore he must be what the Scripture calls him 2. Because he was Anointed with the Holy Spirit so as never any was but he for God gave not the Spirit by measure unto him John 3. 34. and therefore he is properly and really the only Christ and Saviour of the World Neither is there Salvation in any other for there is none other Name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved but by the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom the Jews crucified Acts 4. 10 11 12. I shall conclude this point in the words of the Learned Leigh