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A54039 The holy truth & people defended, and some of the weapons and strength of the power of darkness broken and scattered, by the light and power of truth in an answer to the chief passages in a letter, written to me, and replyed to by me, before my imprisonment in this place, where I have been a prisoner above a year and a half, without any law broken , or cause given on my part, who only came innocently and peaceably to visit my friends in prison / by me Isaac Pennington ... Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679. 1672 (1672) Wing P1172; ESTC R23209 36,170 44

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Land He addeth I firmly believe and so have all the Saints that have gone before that Christ is a Person and his Spirit is a living Principle in the hearts of all the faithful but it is not the Spirit or Principle in us that did redeem us but the man Christ Jesus Ans If he mean by the man Christ Jesus The second Adam the quickening Spirit the heavenly Man the Lord from heaven he who is one with the Father the Word which was in the beginning which created all things I grant him to be the Redeemer for it was he who laid down his glory wherewith he was glorified before the World was and made himselfe of no reputation but took upon him the form of a servant and came as a servant in the fashion of a man to do the will But if he distinguish Christ from this Word and Spirit and make the Mans Nature the Saviour and the God-head only assistant to him as he seemed to word it before and as these his words seems to imply that I utterly deny For so testifieth the Scripture I am the Lord and besides me there is no Saviour I am a just God and a Saviour c. So that Christ is the Saviour as he is one with God It was Gods Arm and Power revealed in him that effects Salvation Yea if I may so speak his obedience was of vallue as it came from the Spirit and it was the offering it up through the Eternal Spirit that made it so acceptable to God So that we must not attribute Redemption originally to him as a man but as he came from God and brings the honor all back to the Spring and Fountain from whence he had all that God may be all in all and the very Kingdom of Christ may endure and abide for ever in the Root of Life from whence it came And so he is not a Foundation or the Corner-stone distinct from God He as the Foundation was and is the Rock of Ages the Spiritual Rock both before and since he took upon him the body prepared for him It is the Spirit the Life which was revealed in that Man by which he did his Fathers will which was and is the Foundation whereupon all the living Stones are built There is a Foundation of Death and that 's the wicked Spirit There is a Foundation of Life and that 's the holy Spirit by which Christ himselfe was led and guided in that his appearance in the flesh which descended upon him and he was annoynted with and all his are to be annoynted with and live in the same Spirit And he that knows Christ in this Spirit he hath the true and abiding knowledg of him and no otherwise And though the names Messiah Jesus Christ Saviour Annoynted c. were given to him as in the flesh or as man they most properly and originally belong to him with respect to the Divine Life and Birth in him as the sent one And only Begotten Proceeding from the Father the Brightness of his Glory c. for he as the Eternal Son of God was the Spiritual Rock before he took upon him that Body which was prepared for him which expresly was called the Body of Jesus and which he called This Temple and distinctly he being called Jesus Christ come in the flesh which every Spirit that confesseth not is not of God but is that Spirit of Antichrist 1. Joh. 4.3 He speaketh of sitting on the Throne of David Ans It is a great matter to know that Throne which Davids Throne signified and Christ sitting thereon His Kingdom his Throne are not of this outward worldly nature but inward and spiritual and his Throne is in his Kingdom and Temple where he reigns and is worshiped He that knoweth Sathan disthroned and cast out knoweth also Christ come in and sitting on his Throne O that men did give over their dreaming about the heavenly Glory and come thither in the leadings of Gods Spirit where it is revealed Was that Scripture written in vain concerning the glorious state of the Gospel But we all with open face beholding as in a Glass the glory of the Lord are changed into the same Image from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord 2 Cor. 3.18 He putteth up a prayer for us That the Lord would awaken us and make us do our first works and return to our first Love Answ Ah poor man how is he blinded not discerning how the Lord hath don this for us and much more but it is he himselfe that hath lost his first love and doth not do his first works but is found short of that tenderness quickness and savour that once was in him O that he might see it and return to him whose quickening virtue restores and heales He concludeth with the words of the Prophet Jer. Chap. 13. ver 15 16 17. Hear ye and give ear be not proud for the Lord hath spoken Give glory to the Lord your God before he cause darkness and before your feet stumble upon the dark Mountains and while ye look for Light he turn it into the shaddow of death and make it gross darkness But if ye will not hear it my Soul shall weep in secret places for your pride and mine Eyes shall weep sore and run down with Tears because the Lords Flock is carried away Captive Answ How doth this man mistake in his sight and applycation of Scriptures Seeing and applying in a wrong Spirit It is true the Lord hath spoken but he himselfe and many such as he is have not given eare And what is the reason but because they are exalted above the pure Principle of Life in their own hearts And are not such proud Hath not he brought forth these weapons the e false charges and reasonings in this paper against the heritage of God in the pride of his heart As for us the Lord God hath humbled us and taught us who have learned and dayly learn of him in the humility and in humility and fear do we give forth our testimony though also in the Authority and Majesty of our Masters Name whose Name stands over and is exalted above every Name and his Mountain and gathering is in the pure Authority and Power of his Spirit above all other Mountains and gatherings whatsoever And as for Gods causing darkness let him and such as he is look to it for God doth not nor will cause darkness to them whom he hath gathered into the Light of his Spirit but saith to them Arise shine for thy Light is come and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee O City and dwelling place of the living God But those that know not or turn against his appearance and cry up former dispensations of the same Life and Power but reproacheth and blasphemeth the present on them doth he cause the gross darkness to fall and cover them And this which he thretneth us with is already fallen upon himselfe for his feet are
Seed of Life raised and the Soul subject to the pure heavenly power whose right it is to Reign in the heart in and by the Seed this is a blessed state indeed For here the work is done c. these were my words Now mind God is the Teacher in the new Covenant Now he that hath learned this of him hath he not learned the true Religion And is not this a full sum and substance of Religion Wh●n the Apostle saith Pure Religion and undefiled before God is to visit the fatherless c. Alass might this Spirit have said against the blessed Apostle that is not the pure Religion not the sum or substance of pure and undefiled Religion that is but a fruit or superstructure O that men had true sence and understanding That they might favour the words that come from Gods Spirit and the words that come from their own Spirit and might not be offended at that which is true pure and living of him But having disliked this sum he giveth one of his own in these words following I say the sum and that which first and mainly imports us to know as the Lord hath taught me is that the old man is crucified with Christ and brought down into his grave and that we are risen together with him by the faith of the opperation of God and from this faith to be work ng with God to mortifie our members that are on the earth Answ Doth not Christ send his Apostles to preach the Gospel and give them this m●ssage that God is Light and to turn their minds to the true Light that they might be enlightened by it Doth it not import men first to know that whereby they might be Crucified before they can know themselves Crucified th●reby So that Christ did judge this as the first thing necessary to be known in the preaching of the Gospel and bid men p each the Light and turn men to the Light and to the inward appearance and voice of Gods Word in their hearts And what are men risen together with him by the faith of the opperation of God while they are yet in their sins in their ungodly state And how can any witn●ss the faith of the opperation of God in this state Now it had been better he had forborn affirming that the Lord taught him thus For truly the Lord never taught any thus This is not truth from God nor will it be owned by the Lord as his Truth when he comes to appear before him And he should have took it to himself and not have put the Name of the Lord to it But against this his own Doctrin he raiseth an objection in these words Shall we mortifie that which is mortified already His Answer is The old man which is crucified together with Christ is the state of the flesh and of enmity This is past away and in this is the Concern of our Righteousness and Justification properly That which remains to be mortified are our members upon earth which are the fruits of that evil state and in the mortifying of these is the concern of our Sanctification The will of God is done in heaven c. Answ Paul speaks of the Law of sin in his members and he also speaks of the body of death and cries out against that O wretched man that I am saith he who shall deliver me from the body of this death He felt somewhat that nuorished and gave strength to the Law of sin in his members and looked upon himself as wretched ti●l he could meet with deliverance there-from Now some are of opinion that there is no being delivered from the body of sin while in this Life Dost thou look upon it to be done in Christ for us without us but never to be don by Christ in us Let me tell thee if ever thou come to witness the pure eternal Light of the Lord Jesus Christ revealed in thee that will not find out some members on earth onely but the very body thereof and shew thee the necessity of the puting off that body from thee and that circumcision whereby it is to be done which is the circumcision of Christ Mark the promise of the new Covenant I will circumcise thine heart and the heart of thy seed to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart that thou mayest live Is not this the circumciosin of Christ Doth not this cut off the body of the sins of the flesh in the particular where this is witnessed This is the Truth as it is in Jesus even To put off the old man with his deeds It doth not say the body is put off in Christ without us and men must onely put off the members or deeds but they must put off the body and come to witness in themselves the very Nature Spirit Root and Principle from whence they proceed cut down and destroyed in them They must feel the Axe laid to the root of the corrupt Tree and it cut down in them not think it enough to say it is done in Christ for them yea they must also witness the Lord arising to shake teribly the earth in which the Tree grew that so the place of Dragons and Serpents where each lay in times past may hence forward become the place of holyness where grass may grow and the new plants and flowers of the Paradise of God And how is the will of God done in heaven Is it done in heaven after this manner Have Mercy and Righteousness the Preheminence the leading of the Van they are his own words and said to go before and look down from heaven after this manner the body of sin being put off in Christ there are there not those here on earth who dwel in heaven Whose conversation is in heaven even the Witnesses to Gods holy Truth who are ascended up above the Spirit of this world and dwell in Gods holy Spirit and who walk in the Light as God is in the Light Hell is not far from the wicked nor is Heaven far from them who are renewed in the Spirits of their minds and who witness the passing away of the old things and the new Creation in Christ O that he could look back in a true sence and see how he hath wrested those Scriptures Psal 85.9 10 11. Isa 4.2 and Ephes 2.6 afer his own imaginations And indeed in this Spirit men cannot but turn the pretious Truth of God into a lye that is as to themselves as to their own knowledge of it It is known how the Branch of the Lord is beautiful and glorious and the fruit of the earth excellent and comely and in what day it is so which day is When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Sion and shall have purged the blood c. by the Spirit of judgment and by the Spirit of burning Isa 4.4 Then every one that is left shall be called holy and the Branch of the Lord shall be glorious in the
fallen upon the dark mountains and whilst he looks for Light he ha h lost that which once he had and his very Light as he esteems it is become obscurity and gross darkness as this dark paper of his from the dark Spirit and Principle makes manifest to all that shall read it in any measure of true sence or discerning And truly my oul doth weep in secret for his pride and height of Spirit in opposing the Lord his Truth and People And for this cause shall those who have looked upon themselves as the Children of the Kingdom and flock of God be laid wast and know that as it was a dreadful thing to oppose Christ Jesus the Lord in his appearance in flesh so it is also dreadful to oppose his appearance in his Spirit and Power wherein he is arisen to set up his Kingdom and to throw down Babilon which is built in the likness of Sion but by and in another Spirit Those in whom there is any tenderness towards God and true breathings after him left the Lord give them the sence and true understanding of this inward spiritual appearance of his Son and of what they have been doing and are doing against it that they may not continue to fight against the the Lord and kick against that which is able to wound and prick to their own hurt and eternal ruine For there is not Salvation in any other name then in that which is now revealed Blessed are all they that trust therein it being not another but the same that ever was To His POST-SCRIPT HE beginneth it with the justification of that passage of his in a foregoing letter of his to me wherein he said Christ is Heaven and I am Hell Answ When God visiteth man he finds him in union with Hell Death and darkness and the man is Dead is Dark is of an hellish Nature and Spirit in that state But when the Lord hath converted him cut him off from that root leavened him with the Spirit and Nature of his Son is he Hell still Ye were Darkness saith the Apostle but now are ye Light in the Lord. And such were some of you but ye are Washed but ye are Sanctified but ye are Justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus and by the spirit of our God A man can be but Hell before he is washed before his filth be purged away by the Spirit of Judgment and Burning before the old leaven is purged out and he sanctified and made a new lump but after the Lord hath thus changed him and new created him in Christ Is he still Hell He saith He doth not call the new Creature Hell but there is an Old Man an Outward Man as well as the New Man the Inward Man Flesh as well as spirit in the Regenerate Answ What doth he mean by the Outward Man the Sinful Body The Body of Flesh is within The outward Body that 's not Hell that 's the Temple of God where the heart is Sanctified And the pure Word of Life Sanctifies throughout even in Soul in Body in Spirit those that are subject to it Know ye not that your Bodies are the Temples of the living God and your Spirits much more for God is a Spirit and he dwels in a Spiritual Temple and his Temple is holy He addeth And unless your attainment be beyond Pauls he found that in him that is in his flesh dwelt no good thing and the Flesh lusting against the Spirit so that he could not do the thing that he would Answ Paul did once experience such a state that he felt himselfe Carnal Sould under Sin when he did not find how to perform that which was good but did what he hated the Law of Sin being strong in his members against the Law of Life in his mind which state he calleth A state of captivity to the Law of Sin in his members and calleth it a wretched state Rom. 7.23 24. But did Paul never experience another state Did he never witness the virtue and power of the new Covenant even the Law of the Spirit of Life and the Power thereof freeing him from the strength and captivity of the Law of Sin in his members There were young men John speaks of who were strong and had overcome the wicked one Did Paul himselfe never attain to that state He bid others be strong in the Lord and in the Power of his might and shewed them how to resist in it so as to overcome Did he never experience and witness it himselfe He said He had fought a good fight and was more then a Conqueror What was he then a captive to the Law of Sin in his members and did he then cry out Who shall deliver me from the body of this Death He said He could do all things through Christ that strengthened him was not that a state different from that other wherein he found only to will And could not do the good he desired but did the evil he allowed not but hated And blessed be the Lord there are many at this day who witness a farther state of redemption and deliverance from Sin and the Law thereof in the members then that state of captivity was which Paul there expresseth his former groanings and complainings under For he was not in that state of captivity when he writ that Epistle but knew the Dominion of Grace over sin and bid that Church be subject to the Grace and not give way to sin but yeeld their members servants to Righteousness unto Holiness Ch. 6. For that other place Of the Flesh lusting against the Spirit and the Spirit against the Flesh Gal. 5.17 He doth not there speak of himselfe but of the Galatians who were in a weak low and indeed fallen state from the Spirit and Power of the Gospel having let in that which was contrary thereunto And so he strives to gather them into the Spirit again and bids them Live in the Spirit and walk in the Spirit and so they should not fulfil the lusts of the flesh For in the new Covenant man is taught of God the holy lesson of ceasing from evil and doing good and taught in the virtue and power of the Covenant so that he learns daily and grows daily out of Deceit into Truth until he come to be a true Israelite in whom there is no Guile And so in the spiritual War The house of Saul grows weaker and weaker and the house of David stronger and stronger until Sauls Kingdom be at length overturned and wholly destroyed and the Kingdom of David established in Righteousness for ever and ever Then Jerusalem the holy building the City of the living People the City of Righteousness the Habitation of Righteousness and Mountain of Holiness is known and Jerusalem is witnessed a quiet habitation there being peace in all her borders Then the mind is fully stayed upon the Lord in all conditions and he keeps it in perfect p●ace Then the Soul is careful for nothing