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A12705 A sermon preached at Cheanies the 14. of September, 1585, at the buriall of the right honorable the earle of Bedforde, By Thomas Sparke Doctor of Divinitie Sparke, Thomas, 1548-1616. 1594 (1594) STC 23023; ESTC S114843 60,544 120

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the woorkes of such accompanie them as dye in the Lorde For the true faith purifieth the hearte Actes 15.9 and it is of that nature that it worketh by loue Galat. 5.6 And therefore as though a man haue neuer so charitable and curteous woordes yet if hee haue no deedes aunswering thereunto his charitye is vaine Iam. 2.15 16 ●0● 〈◊〉 if it haue no woorkes is deade in it selfe and cannot not saue a man verse 17. c. Howbeit this I say and thus I teach with Iames not that I woulde haue you to thinke that faith saueth or iustifieth any for the worthines of these works that followe it and accompanye it For so far off am I and wee all ought to bee from that that we may not once imagine that fayth it selfe saueth or iustifieth any for the worthinesse of it selfe but onely for and through the worthines of Christ the obiect thereof whom it apprehendeth and applieth withall his merites to her owner and so thereby hee is iustified But this I say and constantly afferme that that fayth that iustifieth a man indeede is two wayes liuely and effectuall namely in heauen before GOD about her obiect Christ first in apprehending and applying lit to the iustification of the owner and then in earth amongst men in puryf●yng her subiect that is the person in whome it is to bring foorth fruites beseeming a iustified person So that alwayes hee that hath the iustifiyng faith hath therewith the sanctifying spirite whereby hee is able according to Saint Peters counsaile to ioyne vertue to his faith 2. Peter 1.5 and according to Saint Iames request to shewe his faith by his woorkes Chapter 2.18 for the ●ounde and right fayth in Iesus 〈…〉 into the hearte of the owner by the operation of the spirite such abundance of loue to wardes GOD for and in consideration of his infinite loue and goodnesse found out and apprehended thereby that it replenisheth the hearte wherein it is withall thankefulnesse and duetifulnesse towardes him in obeying his commaundementes with all his power chearefully and willingly in somuch that as it is impossible to seperate fire and heat sunne and light so is it to finde a iustiflyng fayth without good woorkes And therefore though wee take the office of iustifiyng from good woorkes generally without distinction and leaue it soly and wholy to faith as Paul doeth Romanes 3.28 where he sayeth Therefore wee conclude that a manne is iustified by faith without the woorkes of the lawe yet wee say and holde also with Sainte Iames that a man is iustified of woorkes and not of faith onelye Iames 2.24 For though by warrant from Paul wee holde that onlye faith iustifieth before GOD because the woorkes of the Iawe that is woorkes commaunded by the Lawe which if any other thing might bee ioyned with faith in this office are most woorthy are shut out quite from intermedling therein yet wee holde also that this fayth which is sola that is alone in doing this office yet is not solitaria that is alone in her owner when she doth performe it Faith therefore alone with Paul iustifieth before God and workes proceeding from faith iustifie that is declare who is iustified with Iames. For that appeareth to be his sense by his saying She we me thy faith out of thy woorkes Neither is his phrase straunge in saying that works doe iustifie which doe but declare who is iustified For we say cōmonly white haires make in olde man and yet our meaning onely is that they declare him to be an olde man And for further proofe yet of this point that it is not a faith in the sippes but in the heart not a woroy but a worthy faith that knitteth vs vnto Christ wee are to call to our remembraunce that Christ expresly Iohn 15.5 saith He that abideth in me and I in him the same bringeth foorth much fruit And that as Saint Paul saith there is no condemnation to those that bee in Christ to he addeth which walke not after the flesh but after the spirit Rom. 8.1 yea that he saith that they that are Christes haue crucified the flesh with the lustes thereof Galat. 5.24 and that with with olde thinges are past away and all thinges are become newe 2. Cor. 5.17 Either therefore neuer pretende that thou hast a sound are a right faith or else set thy life and conuersation be such as God may be glorified in iustifiing such an one Dauid coulde say seeing Christ but a far off in respect of that purgation and clen sing that hee hoped for by him Psa 51.7 Purge me with hysope and I shall bee cleane washe mee and I shall be whiter than snow And therfore said Iohn very flacly 1. epist 1.6.7 If we say wee haue fellowshippe with him and walke in darckenesse wee lie and doe not truely but if wee walke in the light as hee is in the light we haue fellowshippe one with another and the bloode of Iesus Christ cleanseth vs from al our sinnes Wherefore let vs assure our selues either that wee are not purged at all by Christes death or washed by his bloode or else chat we are cleane and white For no doubte of it where God for his sake pardoneth sinne there he purgeth it and where he couereth it there he cureth it and therefore to all that beleeue in him the spirite is promised Iohn 7.38 to bee in that measure that it shal be as riuers of water of life flowing ouer the bankes for the force it shall haue in all such effectually to wash them to soften them to make them fruitfull and to quench in them the flames and heate of sinne Vnlesse therefore wee finde the spirite in vs to haue this operation wee are without warrant in our selues to prooue that we haue a sound and right faith in Christ By this then you mate see dearely beloued in Iesus Christ seeing this is the generall doctrine of vs all that professe the Gospel with knowledge how much we are wrōged by our aduersaries the papists who this not withstāding charge our doctrine to be a doctrin of liberty and licentiousnesse For heereby euidently you may see wee shut out all those from the number of them that dye in the Lorde which be carnal and worldly minded men whatsoeuer they say and al carnal and prophane Gospellers which turne the grace of God into wantonnesse what faire shew soeuer they can make of faith in wordes And therefore here is no comfort at all for any that yet remaine in their sins hauing thē raigning in their mortall bodyes for Epicures Libertines or for any leude lycentious wretch whatsoeuer he be For such doe not liue in the Lord and therefore are not slkely to dye in the Lord. For commonly qualis vita finis ita such life such death in the iust iudgment of God it so falleth out For he that lyuing and in health wil not remember God it is but right that God shoulde forget him sicke and dying
Because no doubt of it there are fooles in the world Psal 14.1 which in their hearts thinke though they dare not for shame with their congues say there is no God and consequētly that there is neither Hell nor Heauen resurrection of the body nor immortality of the soule let vs marke The same body shall rise againe in the meane time resteth in peace what doctrine this text teacheth vs to the cōtrary to the stopping vp for euer of the mouths of such prophane Atheistes Wherefore to begin with all I say how could it be here said that they that die in the Lord are thenceforth blessed vnlesse in respece of the whole man it were so in some force Euident it is that if either the body were vtterly perished so that it should neuer rise againe or the soul dead that it could feel no ioy they could not at al be sayed to be blessed For blessednes as you haue hard confirmed vnto you euē out of my text it selfe consisteth not only in ceasing from labor woe and paine but in a possession and fruition of a most heauenly reward Nay it is most certaine that if either the body in the meane time vntil the resurrection were not at rest and peace or in the end should not rise again the soule coulde not bee said to be blessed to enioy the reward of works done by it in the body For it were a kinde of misery vnto it to haue the body disquieted especially to be without hope of beeing euer restored and ioyned to the body again Wherfore in that they that dy in the Lord are here pronounced blessed first for the bodies of such we learn that they are in rest and as the scripture speaketh as it were a sleepe in the bosome of their mother the earth Acts. 7.1 Thess 4.15 and therefore free from all woe and pain and not to be disquieted by diuels enchanters or witches any manner of way and that most certainely they rest in hope of a blessed resurrection which according to the Scriptures Mat. 25.1 Thess 4.1 Cor. 15. at the last general day of iudgment by the power of the Lord shal be brought to passe Wherof we must needs be perswaded in that otherwise God shuld not be perfectly merciful nor Christ a ful sauior And why should Christ take vnto his godhead vnite therwith in person as wel the body of man as the soul of man vnlesse he ment to be a ful sauior of both He our head rose again in his own body one in substance with that it was before though altered in properties and so shall it be with his members 1. Cor. 15.1 Thess 4. Notable therefore was Iobs faith his time considered I know saith he that my redeemer liueth that I shal see God in my flesh though after this skin the wormes destroy this bodye whom I my selfe shall see mine eies shall behold none other for me Iob. 19.25.26.27 Euen the dying of the corne first in the earth and the after growing vp of the same the reuiuing of diuerse worms and other creatures at the spring towardes sūmer the laye for deade all winter are glasses in nature our God hath set before vs to make vs ashamed of this point of infidelity and Atheisme once to call the truth of the resurrection into question The soule is immortall And as touching the soul that it dieth not but if it depart out of the body in the Lorde that it passeth streight to the Lorde with whome it not only ceaseth from al woe and pain but also enioieth the reward of blisse hereby also we are plainly taught For otherwise how should it bee true that immediatly thenceforth such as die in the Lord are blessed in not only ceasing frō their labours but also in present receiuing rewarde of their works For hereupon it must needs follow to be most true which wee reade Eccl. 12.7 that the soul returneth to him that gaue it And that also Mat. 10.28 that tyrants cannot kil the soul Wherfore we may with Peter count death but a flitting of the soule out of the tabernacle of the body 2. Pet. 1.14 and with Paul a going from an earthly house to an heauenly It sleepeth not nor is without feeling of ioy assuredly vntil the resurrectiō 2. Cor. 5. c. and therefore with him vpon good cause desire to be dissolued to be with the Lord Phi. 1.23 and when we dye dying in the Lorde with Christ Luk 23.46 and with Stephē Act. 7 59. cōmēd our souls into the hands of God Whereupon it followeth that there is a soule and that it dieth not when the body dyeth but is immortal Yea further in y● as we perceiue by Christs placing of Lazarus immediatly in present fruition of ioy after his death in Abrahams bosom Luk. 16. the souls of such as die in the Lord are sayd here to haue their works accompany them hereupon it followeth that the reward thereof is not drousie sleepe but a ioyfull feeling of heauenlye blisse and that therefore the soules of such departed sleepe not but are awake and in a liuely feeling of ioy in heauen Which fancy of these sleepers is confuted also in that Ioh. Apo. 6. seeing in visiō soules in heauen heard them cry a loud vnto the Lord to hasten his second cōming Herevpon also in that of contraries there is contrary condition may well be gathered in that the state of those that dye in the Lord is blessed that the state of those that dye not in the Lord That is no purgatory for any that dy in the Lord to goe vnto is accrused Now in that it followeth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 immediately thenceforth and their works accompany thē and they cease from their labours by three most euident reasons it must needes follow that to such as dye in the Lord there is not any meane place or Purgatory and therfore to none other by our aduersaries owne confession For they themselues hold as wel as we that al that dy out of grace and fauor of our God they for their sins in soul go straight to hel and that none go to purgatory but such as dye in the Lord which yet before their death haue not sufficiently satisfied for their sins But here I say this their doctrine is flatly confuted first in that they are imediatly after their death thenceforth without any exceptiō said to be blessed Secōdly in that it is said They rest from their labours Thirdly in that it is said Their works accompany thē None of all which could bee true if any of them went to purgatory And yet our Rhemists vpon this place are not ashamed to write in their notes notwithstanding it be their known and receiued doctrine that the p●ines that souls suffer in purgatory be equal to the paines of hel for the time that one principal torment there is the gnawing worme of conscience that soules in purgatory may well be
Not by the popish faith Howebeit as yet will some saye for any thing that you haue sayde both Papist and Protestant may seeme to bee such as dye in the Lorde For both professe faith in Christ and labour to shewe their faith by their woorkes I graunt it may seeme so to a simple man that seeth not the difference betwixt them to bee such as that the one holdeth the foundation the other not For though there were a difference otherwise as great as there is betwixt golde siluer precious stones and wood heye and stubble yet if both helde the foundation though the builders thereupon of wood hey stubble should in time by a more clear day of vnderstanding shining vnto them through the fire of Gods spirite kindled in them bee caused to see their folly in building no better matter vpon so good a foundatiō with griefe sorrow and some shame for their so doing Yet we learne by S. Paul that euen they also 1. Cor. 3.11.12 13.14 and 15. shall bee saued for holding the foundation And therefore that such notwithstanding their wood hey stubble that is their fonde and vaine opinions not ouerthrowing the foundatiō may dye in the Lord and so be partakers of the comfore set downe in this place But the truth is right honorable that the Popish faith what good shewe soeuer it maketh hath forsaken the foundation which is in this case but one euen Christ Iesus Because it holdeth not the foūdatiō besides whō no other foundation can any man lay as there ver 11. Paul most excellently affirmeth For better vnderstanding of which point to be most true as this would be remēbred which wee haue heard S. Paul tel vs 1. Co. 3.11 that other foūdatiō cā no mā lay thē that which is laid which is Christ Iesus so we are dilligētly to cōsider the groūd of that metaphor that is the reason why Christ is sayd to be the onely foundation of his Church whereuppon all the true members thereof as liuing stones must bee built 1. Pet. 2.5 that in him the whole building being coupled together may grow vnto a holy tēple in the Lord Ephes 2.21 No doubt of it the grounde and reason of the mecaphore is the similitude that is betwixte the foundation of an house and the house and Christ and his Church which is this that as the whole frame of the house standeth and resteth vpon the foundation and so therby is borne vp and vpholden so euery one that woulde stande vp and be vpholden as any parte of Gods spirituall house must wholly stand and rest vpon Christ and by him alone be borne vp and vpholden Let a house stande but halflings vppon the foundation it cannot stande it will fall so in this case they that would surely stand before the Lord they must fully bee setled and rest vppon the onely foundation Christ Whereuppon it must néeds follow that the popish Church is not Gods spiritual house because neither the whole house generally nor any member thereof particularly taketh it selfe onely to stande and to bee vpholden vppon and by Christ alone For it is currant doctrine with them yet that Christ by his sufferinges hath not so satisfied the iustice of his heauenly father as that hee will not require further satisfaction at the hands of him that beleeueth in him For they plainely teach that though to such their sinnes be forgiuen yet concerning the penalty due therefore this is onely done that by the merites of Christ whereas it should be euerlasting miserie nowe for his merites God will be content to accept of a temporary satisfaction and so partly for that and partly for his sonnes satisfaction hee will acquite them And here it is worthy to be noted that the Lord hath so stroken that generation in his iust iudgement with blockish sottishnes for this their robbing of his deare son of his glorie which is due vnto him that whereas in this their doctrine they ioyne other meanes helpes to deliuer men from their sinnes to the salue and plaister which Christ hath made as though his were either not broade enough to couer the sore or not good enough to cure it the meanes that they deuise are so childishe and so vnfit to be mingled with the precious bloude of Christ as that they make themselues ridiculous in attributing deliuerance from sinne vnto them As for example they attribute the power to deliuer from sinne to their holie water holy oyle holy salt holy creame holy breade holy palmes holy crosse yea and to what toye soeuer if it be but a graine or a beade hollowed of the Pope as their seruice bookes which yet they vse and too too grosse experience haue taught vs. Sinne is so small a matter with them that some sinnes must needes of their own nature be veniall and therefore our learned Rhemistes in their notes vppon the 10. of Mat. hold that a Bishoppes blessing will wipe them out going on pilgrimage offering of Candels to stocks stones and such like deedes of deuotion inioyned by a Ghostly Father in waie of penaunce yea saying of fiue Aue Maries three Pater nosters and three Creedes are counted of them good meanes of satisfactions to deliuer the beleeuer from that which the pretious bloudy satisfaction of Christ hath not deliuered him frō And which is of al the rest most absurd a number of thē as it is too wel known by their attēpts practises both in Englande and else where are growen to bee of this opinion that traiterouslie and treacherouslie to murther their naturall Prince for that hee or shee fauoreth not the Popishe faith is become nowe a meanes to merite and to obtayne plenarie remission of all sinne to the partie that will hazarde his life to doe it and yet this they wil not graunt that the beleeuer in Iesus Christ canne haue by Christes dying a most bitter death O horrible blasphemie and yet their daylie practise putteth vs out of doubt that this is their opinion and their couering and shrowding their manifold treasons vnder the pretence of their religion cōfirmeth the same And wheras to saluation two thinges are necessarie first quite to bee deliuered from sinne and from the daunger thereof which otherwise woulde sinke vs downe to hell and then a perfect righteousnesse that can not but bee so accompted in the righteous and iust iudgement of God Whereby a right claime and title may bee had to heauen and both these are fully prouided and prepared for all right beleeuers in the Messias as after you shall heare As they will not seeke for the former in his satisfactions alone but partly also in their own so concerning the latter they euen with the blind and pharisaicall Iewes Rom. 10.3 are so ignorant of the righteousnesse whirh God in Christ hath prepared to make men righteous by that they seeke to that end still to establish their owne righteousnesse For at no hand they can abide that men
then whether these be not the greatest and include not the rest They cannot deny but these are punishments due for sinne that the greatest also including all other If therefore the Scripture teach vs that Christ hath freed vs from these then it is euident that he hath freed vs from all Wherefore marke that it is thus written Rom. 8.1 There is no condemnatiō to those that are in Christ Gal 3.13 Christ hath redeemed vs from the curse of the law when he was made a curse for vs. If it were not thus that they that beleeue in Christ were assured that Christ had freed them both from all their sinnes and also from their penalty due therefore how coulde it be true that we read Rom. 5.1.2 that they that are iustified by faith haue peace with God through Christ accesse to his grace wherin they stand re●olce And if there were not yet enough done to satisfie the iustice of God why did Christ say giuing vp the ghost cosummatum est it is finished Ioh. 19.30 And why is the promise to al Gods children vttered in these wordes Ierem. 31.34 I will forgiue their iniquitie and remember their sinnes no more Yea how can it stand with Gods iustice that hauing for-giuen to the beleeuer all his sinnes hee yet should punish him for them and cause him to satisfie for them Will God punish and driue to satisfaction where the cause is already taken away when he hath been satisfied at once already to the vttermost farthing as it is euident he hath beene in Chryst for al that beleue in him For other wyse Christ hauing taken vpon him to satisfie the iustice of his heauenlye Father shoulde not nor coulde not haue risen agayne ascended into heauen and sit at the right hand of his father Thereby it is euident that by his abasement he hath fully satisfied his father gone through with the work he took in hād is now able to apply the same to those the be his Yea but all this letteth not wil they say but that we may hold still that by our satisfactions God in part is satisfied seeing we graunt that they are made auailable satisfactions by Christes satisfaction Yea but that were yet to say that Christ purgeth his from their sinnes not by himself but by the helpe and sufferings of others the plaine contrary whereof wee reade Heb. 1.3 in these words He hath by himself purged our sinnes How say you then to manyfold afflictions and in the ende to death laid vppon them that beleeue say they I answeare that these are no satisfactions to God for sinnes already committed but they are his fatherly chastisements to admonish vs to repent vs of sinnes paste and to take heed of sinne hereafter And they are both occasions to them to exercise their vertues and to those that are without instructiōs to take heed of going on in wickednes seeing the Lord so chastiseth his owne house And as for death the stinge thereof is taken away in respect of such soy howsoeuer it be remain the rewarde of sin to the vnbeleeuer yet to thē the beleeue it is but the last strok of the battel as the dore thorow which they passe frō this worlde full of misery to the next full of ioy and felicity It is a pitifull thing that of these they cannot tell what to make vnlesse they make them meanes to derogate from the most sufficient and infinite satisfaction made by Christ If the glory of Christ were deare vnto them as it ought they were perswaded as they should that he was both able willing to go thorow with the worke which he tooke in hand that is to be a perfect and a ful Sauiour in himselfe and by himselfe whatsoeuer they thought of thē they would not once dare to cause thē to encroch thus vpon his office Alas it is lighter then vanitie it selfe for them to say that by the vertue of Christ there is deserued for them that beleeue in him that eternall punishments due to thē should be turned into tēporall y for his sake God will cōtent himself with these For first it is a mere deuise of their owne head vtterly without warrant frō Gods reuealed wil in his word secōdly howe can it stād with any reason that he the for Christs sake wil forgiue the greater wil stick at the lesse that he that will forgiue the eternal punishment wil not for-giue the temporary And lastly what a toy is it to imagine that Christ tooke so much paines to satisfie the iustice of his heauenlye father to leaue the accomplishment thereof to the vncertainty of mens satisfactions And truely as you see by this that I haue said their vanity contrariety to the word writren in this particular pointe of their faith concerning remission of sinnes so if you will listen but a while you shall finde their fault as great in the next concerning their iustifying vp or making of themselues righteous by their owne righteousnesse done after faith Concerning which point you are to vnderstand dearly beloned that the quistyon betweene vs and them therein is not as they woulde make the woorlde beleeue whether Chryst be of power in them that beleeue aftertually to cause them to dye to sinne lyue to righteousnes For as you haue before hearde I haue already betermyned that vnlesse it be a faith arc●●panyed with that power it is a deade and 〈◊〉 fayth And therefore wee as earnestlye 〈◊〉 them that beleue to bring forth fruits worthy of forth as they can doe for their lyues But herein lyeth the questyon whether fayth iustifye for the worke it bryngeth foorth or for Chrystes 〈◊〉 whom it apprehendeth and so whether wee may trust to these good fruites when wee haue brought them foorth as that the reby wee may thinke and beleue we are iustyfied before God 〈◊〉 ma●ited to be sai●ed We say wee may not account other wyse of them then as of fruit as and ●●●rctes of out full iustification appre●●●ded in Christ seruing to the glory of God Mit. 5.16 and to testifie both to our se●●●● and others that soluation is pr●p●●●d for vs in Christ in heauen Iohn 13.35.2 Pe● 1.5 And in no case ●ar● we make them any cause eyther of our iustification or saluation But we say with Saint Barnard ser 1 de ann●●●●●tione Mari● that thou canst not deser●e et ●●●all life by any woorkes 〈…〉 merites are not such that ●rer●all life 〈…〉 as that God shoulde doe man wrong if therefore he shoulde not giuē it for our good woorkes are Gods giftes and so for them wee are indebted to him and not hee to vs. They accompt of them as of a meritorious cause of their saluation and as of the formall cause of their iustification and therefore to that end they doe them and trust in them Wheras we hold that wee bee in the state of iustification onely for Chrysts sake apprehended by faith
Lorde speaketh of For he was no timeseruer or dissembler none that either in forehead or hād bare the marke of the beast but that hated thē least ragge relicke and clour of the Romish harlote euery day more and more vnto his death O you Nobles and others of what calling soeuer learne and seeke to bee like to him liuing that ye may bee like to him dying Assure your selues that hee loued Gods sincere trueth vnfeynedlye thet hee made not his religion a stepping stone to clime vp to promotion by nor his drudge to serue his turne to cōpasse his worldly fetches and deuices by No no hee was no vaine and prophane politike that fauoured and countenanced religion for his own turne his vnfeyned loue appeared towardes it in that euen the feete yea the very feet of them that were messengers therof vnto him were alwaies beautifull in his ei●● insomuch y● he tooke pleasure to reason cōferre with them most familiarlye curteously taking it as great honour vnto himselfe to patronise thē in their good cause ●●●●mes and to further to his vtmost their honest sutes Truly when I consider of the one side how faithful acounseller her maiesty hath lost of him of how trusty ●patron the cōmonweal● is by this his departure frō vs herea●ed and of 〈◊〉 and tēder a father this our Church is therby also depriued and when I haue done enter into a consideratiō on the other side of the blessed and happy change that hee hath made which followeth here in my text I cannot tel whether we haue grater cause to mourne in respect of this threefold losse to vs thā to reioyce in respect of the blessed happy state hereby befallen to him Sure I am we may now wel conceiue y● in this threefolde respect there is great cause why we s●●●ly mourn but I ●eare we shal euery day more and more perceiue this threefold misse and losse of him and therfore our mourning is rather likely to bee increased than otherwyse Howbeit to moderate it let vs proceed in ye●e●t that we may see thereby again what cause there is euen of loue towards him to make vs in his respect to be ioyful again In the handling whereof I wil be the briefer because I haue beene the longer in this Wherfore leauing him most certainly enrolled euen by Gods ●wne hande within the number of those that be vndoubtedly dea●● in the Lord let vs see what is here sai● concerning the state of such a●d therefore consequently of hims●● The secōd part of the general diuisiō wherein first is set down the method true sense of that part of the text with proofes thereof as followeth It followeth Blessed are they immediately thence forth Yea saith the spirite they rest frō their labours and their works accompany thē Wherin first their state is fer bo●●e by y● he ●●●●ly voice what it is and when they enter vpon it and then the same is iterated somwhat explaned by the approbartion assem of the holy Ghost in that forthwith they resto frō their labours and their works accōpany them Their state is blessed As for them entrāce cōtinuance in that state 〈◊〉 pressed in this word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which the etin●●●logy of the word the vse of the word in the best Greeke authours and the very circumstance of the t●●● considered cause me to tra●●●●●●●h●s Immediatly thenceforth Which to he the sense that it ha●h in this place vnderstanding the place of ma●●yrs the Rhe●ists themselues in the notes vpon this place ●il●ingly confesse Yea they vnderstanding the place also generally of al diseased in ●ate of grace confesse it may thē also though they say it doth●●● properly so signifie in this place which they 〈◊〉 neuer proue ●efo takē here vndersāding it only of these that so deceased after Christs ascēsiō vnles that impedimēt be in thēselues Wherby it is euident that not the properly of the word but a desire to maintaine first their limbus patrum for those that departed in faith before Christs ascension and their purgatory for some that depart so since maketh thē vnwilling to yeeld that the natural sense of the word here is as I haue rendred it But who so cōsidereth that the scope of the place is to cōfort the godly and sincere seruants of god against the manifold assaults afflictions procured them in this life by Antichrist euē with this that if these notwithstanding they perseuere vnto the end they shal presently so forth for euer be blessed shal therby perceiue that it must needs here haue that sense For to take it any otherwise would minister vnto them a colde comfort as for example say vnto them but in their sense which they would faine vtter for the sense if they durst for shame be of good cheare be constant vnto the end and then perhaps presently thou shalt go to blisse and perhaps to purgatory there to feele paines that exceede all the paines of this life at the least vntil thou hast satisfied vp for thy sinnes partely by thine owne bearing of those paines and partly by such other reliefe as good men shall prouide for thee when thou art gone and then thou shalt go to blisse and the comfort that it ministreth is as cold as lead Answereth this the circūstance of the text Nay tendeth it not rather to the plain contrary that is to their discomfort Well it seemeth they will not striue with vs for this sense of the word so we would be content to vnderstand it of al that die in grace since Christs ascension only and but of so many of those also as before their death haue fully satisfied for their sinnes but we may not grāt them either of these limitations not the first because they that dyed in faith in Christ to come as well as those that dy since in faith in Christ come found their faith auailable to their saluation For Christ hath bin the selfe same slain lamb for euer in the sight of his heauenly father Reuel 13.8 and is one and the selfe same yesterday to day and for euer Heb. 13.8 And he himself to the plain confutatiō of this grosse opinion that the faithful that died before his ascension went not to ioy blisse placeth Abrahā Lazarus with him in ioy blisse before his death Luk. 16.24 c. and promiseth the thiefe that day when he died that he should be with him in paradise Luk. 23.43 And as for the later the vainnes of the addition hath bin laid opē already in that we haue learned that there is no other satisfaction for the sins of the faithfull but that which Christ made in his owne person once for al yet they are so loth that this place should be vnderstoode generally of all that depart in a right faith in Christ when where and howsoeuer that mistrusting belike that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 would not serue their turns in the