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A68610 A booke of Christian questions and answers Wherein are set foorth the cheef points of the Christian religion ... A worke right necessary and profitable for all such as shal haue to deale vvith the capious quarelinges of the vvrangling aduersaries of Gods truthe. Written in Latin by the lerned clerke Theodore Beza Vezelius, and newly translated into English by Arthur Golding.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Golding, Arthur, 1536-1606. 1574 (1574) STC 2038; ESTC S112801 79,360 184

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to do his sonne wrong if he had pu●ished him as an offender He strake ●im therfore not as an offender but as ●ne that of his owne accord was willyng ●o yeeld himselfe as a borowe or suretie for the vnryghtuous and therefore th● father did nothyng that myght not w● stand with his iustice Quest But why was he condempned ●● the barre before the Iudge and also ex●cuted by the death of the Crosse seyn● he coulde haue dyed otherwise also fo● vs Ans To the ende it might thereby th● better appeere that he became accurse● for our sakes and that he toke vpon hy● the whole wrathe of his father against our sinnes to set vs at full liberty Quest But death is incident to the bodie onely and therfore by this death o● his he seemeth to haue discharged bu● onely our bodies And yet notwithstanding all of vs dye still VVhereupon i● seemeth to followe that he saueth neyther bodie nor soule Ans It was requisite that Christ should take vnto him both soule and body togeether that he might both die for the fyrs● death is the separation of the soule from the body and also that being become perfecte man he might deliuer men whole ● perfecte Quest Meanest thou then that he suffered also the paines whereunto our soules ●e subiecte ●ns Yea verely for it is euen the chiest part of Christes sufferinges that be●es the extreme tormentes of most cru●l death he also endured for our sakes ●e most horrible weight of gods wrath ●an the whiche nothinge can bee more ●eadfull durynge whiche tyme hys Godhead did as it were rest in hym all ●e whyle to the intent that the man●de whiche he had taken vnto hym al●houghe it quite quayled not vnder the ●urden whyche otherwise had been vn●llerable to the verye Angels myght ●otwithstanding most sharply feele and ●●nally beare out gods whole wrath vn●tterably inflamed agaynst all the sinnes ●f all the chosen euen till satisfaction were made to the full Therefore at what ●ime he hung vppon the Crosse he was ●lso in the middes of the torments of hell ●hat he might fully deliuer vs from both the deathes Quest But I pray you if he came to de●iuer vs from death why did he himself dye Ans Because that else the said soueraine iustice of god whiche it béehooued to be satisfied should not appéere in our redemption And therefore the more glorious is Christes victory euen in this respect that hée ouercame death by diyng Quest Why then doo the chosen sort die seyng Christ hath vanquished death for them Ans Because Christe is not come to restore vs into the same state of this world which wée haue lost in Adam but to remooue vs into farre better immortalitie which thing cannot bée done except wee depart out of this worlde Therfore albeit that this separation of the soule and bodye whiche is called the firste deathe sprange of sinne the remnantes wherof are euen in the holiest men yet notwithstandyng if ye marke well the purpose drift of God he strikes not the chosen with it properly as a iudge but sendes it to them as a most louyng father that calles away his children home to himselfe and therfore it not onely frayeth not the beléeuers but also refresheth and chéereth them Quest VVhy then did not that power of his vtter it self out of hande agaynst death Ans Verely it vttered it self out of hand in asmuche as his body suffered not any corruption Neuerthelesse it was his wil to haue it lie buried for a space bothe to the intent that his beyng dead in déede his death beynge confirmed also by the seales of his enemies might prooue his resurrection whiche was to insew anon after also to the intent hée might lyke a conqueror pursew death fléeyng away before him into his innermoste dungeon consequently perfume our graues with the quickening sent of his owne death Quest Is his resurrection then a witnes that he vndertooke to die willyngly to purchace immortalitie for vs Ans It is so For hée is rysen by his owne power neuer to die any more to the ende that wée also shuld be quickened in him for euermore Quest But why went he vp into heauen and not rather taried still with vs Ans In body he is verely and in deede gone away from vs amonge whom hée was and is mounted aboue all heauens where he was not afore in bodye bothe to the intent that hée beyng the first that is risen from death myght fyrst take possession of the heauenly kingdome triumphing ouer his vanquished enemies and also to teache vs to hye vs thitherwarde where he hath prepared a place for vs. And yet is he all the while present wyth vs by his spirite gouerning his Churche as the head gouerneth the members that be ioyned vnto it Quest Then hath he shifted his place to goe thither where as is no place Ans It is so he hath chaunged place accordinge as the thinge done witnesseth and according as the verynesse of a bodye yea thoughe it be glorifyed requyreth But hys chaunging of place is according to that nature whiche is bounded that is done not to forsake vs for in as muche as Christ is one persone God and man together he is neuerthelesse still present with his seruauntes by his whole power because hee is verye God but t● wythdrawe vs from the earthe and to teache vs to seeke heauenly thinges And where as thou sayest there is no plac● whether as he is ascended it is a fond● imagination Let this suffice thee namely that the godhead onely is infinite an● that all other thinges either in heauen or aboue heauen or in earth or in the bottomelesse déepes and consequently his body which though it be a glorified body is notwithstandyng still a mans bodie are accordynge to the nature of them finite and bownded with place And how they be contained in that eternall glory wée shall then perceiue when wée come thither ourselues Quest Thou seemest then to deuide Christ or to make two Christs of whō the one is present and thother is away Ans When I say that Christ is absent as concernyng his flesh and yet auouche him to be verily present both as concernyng his godhead and also if he be considered as a whole thing that is to say as one person God and man I deuide him not but take away the confoundyng of his natures Quest What is ment by his sitting at the right hand of the father Ans That he hauyng layd aside not the verines of his flesh but all infirmitie frailtie of the flesh is now aduaunced to such state of glorie as surmounteth all name That is to wit that his fleshe is already fully glorifyed by the godhead which dwelleth bodily in it without beréeuing it of the own essence or essētiall properties and y it ordereth and ruleth all things in heauen and earth with
t● aduertyse one another of our affair● in this life is truely no poynte of pra●ing vnto men or of thrusting in medi●tours in Christes steade as they do b● rather a callinge vpon oure common ●ther together wyth our brethren in t●● name of the one mediator aforesay● the whyche one myndednes is a most ●…eptable Sacrifice vnto God. Question But the holy Ghost himselfe is saide to ●ake intercession for vs with vnspeakble groninges Aunswere That is because hée teacheth vs too ●one and to praye aright accordinge al●… as the same Apostle maketh hym too ●…ye out Que. But when shal this intercession be ●● an ende An. Truely neuer for euen at such time ●● it shall appeare that we be with god ●ur cleauinge vnto him shall not be but ●y the steppinge in of oure meane and ●…ediator and consequently of oure head ●…esus christ whose reigning and préest●d are euerlasting in the same respect ●et not withstandinge the whole maner ●rulinge and gouerninge the Churche ●…at is now vsed shall vtterly cease after ●…at y last enemie that is to wit death 〈…〉 put away and al the chosen are taken 〈…〉 with their head into euerlastinge life ●…d so god shal be all in all Quest But Paule sayeth that this king●●me or reigning shal bee yelded vp to ●●e father and that Christ shal become ●…iect vnto him An. Paule verely hauinge an eye vnto Christ as too the sonne of god in deede howbeit as manifeste in the fieshe and ioyned with his mēbers dooth worthely attribute the chiefe glory to the godhead which shall at that time be moste of all disclosed when all enemies be ouercom● And truele this subiection beetokeneth some thing inferior to the godhead for the creature shall neuer be made equall with the creator no not euen in christe but yet it doth vs to vnderstand that the chiefe blessednesse next vnto that which is peculiar to the Godhead consisteth in this poynt that God acceptinge vs and our head togither in respecte that he is man for his déere and faithful subiects will then at length géeue vs the fulness of felicitie and punish the rest as rebel● with endlesse paines Quest But wheras it is saide that he will come at the last daye to iudge both the quick and the dead ther is som hardnes in that saying For it appereth by many places of the Scriptures specially by the Story or parable of the rich gluttō that euery mannes iudgement lighteth vpon him immediately after his departure out of this life whither he be godly or vngodly An. God dooth after a sorte execute hys iudgement euen thē insomuche as it is not to be doubted but that the soules of the Godly whom Christ doth gladly receiue haue a foretaste of the eternal happines and contrariwise that the soules of the vngodly haue a forefeling of the horriblenes of eternal death Notwithstāding besides that the said fore iudgement hath respect only too their soules while their bodies lye still a sléepe in the duste the ful declaratiō and executing of the iudgement whereby the whole man shall eyther be made owner of eternall lyfe or els be caste into endlesse torment is delayed to the last daye of the generall Resurrection Quest By the deade then thou meanest not them that shal be dead at such time as they shal be iudged but such as haue ben dead before and shall then be risen againe VVhich then be the quick ones that thou matchest against the deade ones An. They be those whome Christe shall then finde stil aliue in this world at that seconde comminge of his whiche shalbée most glorious The sodaine chaunginge of whiche men intoo the one state or y other of the life to come that is to wit either of endlesse death or of euerlastinge life shal be vnto thē in stéede of bodily death risinge againe as the Apostle teacheth Qu How are they saide to be dampned to endlesse death who notwithstāding are risen againe neuer to die any more An. Because that to liue in so horrible torments both of soule body deserueth not the name of life but rather of death Quest But the Resurrection is it not in generall of gods goodnes yea and that in Christ who is the first fruites of them that rise An. Like as the father created all things in the Sonne so also shall the wicked receiue life againe in him that is to saye by the operation of his power And yet for all that the blessinge of life shall turne to a curse in the vngodly like as al other things doo The wicked therfore shal not rise againe by the benefyte and vertue of Christes resurrection for this resurrection is knit vnto blissed life with an vnseparable knot and therefore none but only suche as beleeue in Christe and are ●uely graffed into him are made parta●ers of that But by the power and auc●hority of the Sonne as he is a Iudge who at the same time that he pronoun●ed the sentence of dubble death and spe●ially of eternall death against all mankinde did euen then condemne all men ●n the penaltie of rising againe sauinge those whom he himself shoulde preserue from death For how should the punishment of the wicked be euerlasting as it must néedes be if their bodies should cōtinew for euer in the dust vtterly voyde of all feeling Quest Neuertheles seing that the bodie mooueth not of it selfe but onely is the Iustrument of the soule it seemeth to stande with equitie that the whole punishment of sin or the whole glorie of rightuousnesse should haue cleaued to mennes soules Aunswere The whole scripture speaketh against it as often as it maketh mentiō of the resurrectiō which doutles agréeth not properly to the soule Again although the body sin not of it self alone yet doth the whole man sin and therefore hee is iustly punished whole And christ were not a perfecte redeemer if hee should let the bodyes of his seruaunts lye still in rottennesse Neither had he néeded to haue takē a body vnto him if he had come to deliuer no more but our soules Quest But what maner of life shall that eternal life be and what maner of death shal that eternall death bee Ans It is to no purpose to searche for these thinges not onely because such curiousenesse is to bee condempned as driueth men too demaunde the thinges that the lorde hath as yet hidden from vs but also beecause it is a pointe of extreame madnesse to be desirous to comprehende that whiche a manne is not able to conceiue If wee were nowe able to conceyue that blisfulnesse wee shoulde already after a sort possesse it in asmuch as y vnderstanding of man doth at leastwise so farforth enioy the thing that is to be vnderstoode as it conceiueth it in vnderstandinge The lyke also is too bée thoughte of the euerlastynge paynes whereof wée see that euen a very light conceyte of
as I thinke we shall doo that more conueniently another time In the meane while if you bee satisfied in the thinges you haue demaunded I am very glad and I would with you too minde these thinges earnestly night and ●aye ¶ All honor glory praise and thankes bee onely vntoo God the Father through our Lorde Iesus Christe Amen ⸫ ¶ EINIS Rom. 1. 21. Iohn 17. 3 Gods word Ephe. 2. 20. Rom. 10. 8 2. tim 3. 16 2. Pet. 1. 20. Actes 2. 11. 1. Cor. 1. 17 18. 19. 20 21. 22. 23. 24. Luke 21. 15 Acts. 6. 10 Iohn 5. 30 Actes 17. 11 2. Cor. 4. 3 Iohn 6. 45 Acts. 13. 48 Phil. 1. 29 Acts. ●6 14 2 tim 3. 17. Being or substance Deut. 6. 4. Mat. 28. 19 what the essēce or substāce of god is what the persons of the godhead bee The distinction of the persons in the godhed Reuerence to be geuen to gods misteries Knowledge of God. Rom. 8. 15. 16. 17. c. ●bm 38. 39 Gal. 4. 6. 7 Iohn 16. 17. c. Exo 20. 5. 6 Ex. 34. 6. 7. What gods iustice is What gods mercy ●● How iustice and mercy may matche Iohn 1. 14 16. 13 17. 3. Rom. 8. 14. 1. Ioh. 4. 13. Math. 1. 21. Mark 2. 7 Gal. 4. 45 Heb. 2. 9 14. 15 Christes Incarnation Iohn 1. 14 Heb. 2. 16 1. Iohn 1. 7 Vnion A Discriptiō of vnion or vnitinge of two thinges into one The vnion of the two natures in Christ Reuerence of heauenly misteries The orderly proceding of gods iust Heb. 2. 14 15. 16. 17 Rom 8. 3 ● Cor. 5. 19 Rom. 5. 8 Christs māhod moste pure without sinne Math. 1. 20 Rom 8. 3 1. Pet. 3. 18 Christ suffered as a borow or sue●tie not as an offender 2. Cor. 5. 21 Obiection agaīst christes full redeeming of the whole man by his death Gal. 3. 13. Christ suffereth the whole dew for our sins Why Christ deliuered vs by dying Heb. 2 14 Esay 53. 8 c. Ose 13. 14 why the chosen die still Rom. 5. 15 c. 1. cor ▪ 15. 35 How the power of christ vttred tselfe Math. 28. 2. 3. c. Actes 2. 24. Rom. 6. 4 what Christes Resurrection witnesseth vnto vs Rom. 6. 10. 1. Cor. 15. 3. 4. c. The cause of Christes Assention how be is absent from vs Ephe. 4. 8. 9. 10. 1. cor 15 20 Iohn 14. 2 Col. 3. 1 Mat. 28. 20 Christ fitting at the right hand of the father Phi. 2. 9 Col. 2. 9. Mat. 28. 18. Phil 2 ● 0. Heb. 2. 8. 9 1. cor 15. 17 Essential properties Luk. 24. 39 A right papistical obiectiō wheron they builde their deuilish masse Colo. 3. 1 Ihon. 3. 13. what propertie is That is to say partaking made apertaining to the one as vvel as to the other made cōmō or indifferē● to both Hovve eche of christes natures cōmunicate their properties vnto other The great force of the vnion of natures vvhat is mēt by communic●tinge of properties Hovv christ is present vvith vs To vvhat purpose Christes bodily absence ●erueth Mat. 28 18 Iohn 17. 2 Mat. 28 ▪ 20 Iohn 15. 4 Gal 2. 20 Ephe. 1. 11. Christes intercession Obieccion against christes mediation in both his natures Difference betvvene a meane a mediator or meanmaker Christe is bothe a meane and a mediator vvhat is to be thought of the office of intercession Of praying to Saincts Angels Mat. 11. 22. Iohn 19 11 The good intentes of the popish praying to Sainctes Another obiection of the Papistes for praying to sainctes 2 Thes 3. 1. Rom. 8. 26 How the holy ghost prayeth for vs Rom. 8. 15. Christs intercession for vs is and shal be euerlasting 1. cor 15 28 Of the yelding vp of christs kingdom to god the father Of christes comming to eudgement 2. tim 4. 1. Luk 16 19. Luke 16. 9. 23. 24. Actes 7. 60 Phil. 1. 23 Mat. 25. 3● The dead 1 cor 15. 51 52. 1. thes 4. 15. Endles dāpnation Obection against the generalnesse of the resurrection 1. cor 15. 22 Gen. 2. 17 Gen. 3. 19 Obiection agaynste the punishment of the bodie for the souls offences 1. cor 35. c 1. thes 5. 25. Heb. 2. 14 Eternall life and eternall death The onely way to eternall life Ioh. 20. 7. 1 The distinction of true faithe Rom. 8. 37 c. Whens true faith commeth Mat. 16. 17. Ioh 1. 19. 18. 17. 15 1. Cor. 2. 9 19. 14. Col. 22. 1. Thes 1. 5 Of mans corruption Corruption of the body in substance Iohn 3. 6 Ephe. 2. 5 That is to vvit both of soule and bodye Corruptione of the soul in qualities and vvhich those qualities bee Error in opiniō about original sin vvhat is mēt by qualities in the soule The soule is not corrupted in substance but in qualities for othervvise it should die as the body doth Neither reason nor Wil is taken away by Adams fall but both of them be vtterly defaced and corrupted Rom. 1. 20 Namely will. Rom. 7. 18. 19. Ro. 7. 8. 9 10. c. Reason vnreformed sucketh alwayes vppō vntruth Obiection Of freewill Naturall reason counseleth nothīg but euill 1. ●or 2. 14 Hovv necessity and free vvil or willingnes may frame together Necessitie Willingnes Compulsion Freenesse Mannes freenesse before his fall Ioh. 8. 36 Rom. 6. 16 8. 15. Of preuenting grace Rom. 5. 10 Tit. 3. 5 1. Ioh. 4. 19 The woorking of naturall vvitte vvith preuētinge grace Grace effectuall by grace Of Merit or deseruing Rom. 4. 4 1. Cor. 4. 7 Mat. 25. 14 Rom. 4. 5 Of the spreding of originall sinne into al mankinde By learning it one of an other or by folowing one anothers example Rom. 5. 14. Rom. 6. 23 Obiection that the death of the bodie shold be but naturall and not a penaltie of sinne Gen. 2. 17. 3. 19. Rom. 5. 12. Of the conueying of the soule Bezaz opinion of the creation of soules Rom. 5. 12 c. To be made one with christ is the only remedi of sin death damnatiō That is to say partakīg of christ or being made one thinge with Christ Esay 9. 5. Rom. 8. 32 1. cor 10. 16 Eph. 5. 30 Iohn 17. 11 21. 22 A cauill against ou● ownering or possessig of Christ Iohn 13. 3. 17. 10 1. cor 6. 20. 7. 23. ●om 7.1 ● c. ● cor 11. 2 ● ph 5. 15 Ephe. 5. 30 why our communiting with christ is called spirituall Acts. 4. 31 Ephe. 4. 15 16. Ephe. 5. 32 Ephe. 5. 30 Christs being one with vs and wee with him Ephe. 5. 32 The fruit of our beinge one with Christ Eph. 1 18 6. 9. c. Eph 3. 8. 9 19. Gal 4. 4 Math. 3. 15 Rom. 5. 19 Phil. 2. 8 Rom. 8 3. 4 Rom. 6. 6 Gal. 2. 20. Imputation 1. Cor. 1. 30. Ioh. 17. 20. 21. c. Against the doctrine of Transubstantiation Ep. 4. 15. 16 Ephe. 5. 23 Christs righ
finde ●hat the ablenesse to bée willinge to re●eiue is geuen vntoo vs and also that ●ée bée willinge to receiue bothe toge●her in one selfe same moment For o●herwise the grace were in vaine Ther●ore as many as impugne this manner ●f togither workinge as though it were ●epugnant too the grace of God they ●ewray their owne vnskilfulnesse many ●ayes consideringe that this selfsame ●ogether workinge is the gyfte of Gods grace and woorketh in such wise together with it as that in order of causes it is in déede the latter like as it foloweth immediatly after the cause that woorketh the effecte by reason whereof all thinges are fathered whollye vppon the onely grace of God and yet notwithstandinge God at once and in one selfsame moment bringeth to passe both that through grace wée may know and throughe grace wée doo knowe in déede that through grace we may 〈…〉 and through grace we do wil in deed●… and finally that through grace wee m●… doo and through grace wee doe indeed●… For the efficient cause in possibility ca●… not be called efficient in working vnt●… it be performed in very déede Moreouer sith there is not taken frō man neyther the ability of vnderstanding nor th●… abilitie of willing as I haue saide afor●… but onely the ability to vnderstand rightly and to will rightly it cannot bee denid●… but that at least wise ther is in him a natural together working bycause the whe●… as the first disposing grace is not receiue●… but of one that hath vnderstāding wil and men by nature do generally vnderstand and will man receyueth the offered grace not as a block but as one that is endewed with vnderstanding wil and so farforth as he doth but vnderstand and will he worketh together with god his maker at whose hande he hath receyned those natural powers But in respect y he vnderstandeth well and willeth wel that must bee wholly attributed too the newcome grace whereby it commeth too passe that he prepareth to make himself ready to vnderstand aright to will a●ight and to doo aright when he hath re●eiued the grace and also that he vnder●…andeth willeth dooth rightly indeede Quest And what is it to be thought of ●…e effectes of the first grace An. That the first grace is effectuall it 〈…〉 to be imputed to Gods seconde grace ●…r wée should straytwaies fall from the ●…rst if there folowed not another imme●iatelye after to make the former effec●ual and so must ye procéede on stil from ●race to grace Que. But it could hardly be denied but ●hat assone as we haue receiued the first ●race we worke together with the rest ●f the graces folowing so consequēt●y that the later graces are bestowed for merit or desert of the former grace An. Away with the names of desert and merit which fight ful but against grace ●ow much so euer the halfe pelagian So●histers prate to the contrarye He that ●enyeth vs to woorke together with the ●…rst grace denieth the efficacy of the first grace And looke what I haue sayde of the first grace the same doo I say of the graces that insew For that the fyrste grace is so effectuall as that wée vse 〈…〉 well wée may thanke the second gra●… for it For were not the seconde gra●… present yea both freely geuē free●… effectual we shold not only not goe forward but also goe quite backe againe into a far worse state then wee were i● before Then as for this toogether working which as I said procedeth wholl●… of the insewing grace what hath it in●… that may merite or deserue anye recompence at al Nothing at al for euen the●… when wee after a sorte doe vse it well●… which thinge also if the matter be we●… lookte vppon is throughe grace w●… doo rather vse it amisse I confesse then that the faithefull seruauntes haue Talentes committed vntoo them But yet agayne it is of men grace that the woorkinge of those Seruauntes is allowed and that they b●… taken for faithfull Seruauntes an●… finally that rewarde is geuen vnto●… them which is not dewe vntoo them i●… anye other respecte than bicause i●… was freely promysed and is freely performed Quest But I woulde fayne learne this o●… you also How this corruption is spread to mankinde Namely whither it bee 〈…〉 nature or by imitacion ●… Forasmuche as ye bée sure inough 〈…〉 it is come in ye shoulde rather haue ●…ed how it might be driuen out again ●…euerthelesse because of many noysom ●…ours I will endeuer to satisfie you in ●…s behalfe also I answere therefore ●…t the maladie is first spread abrode by ●…ture and afterwarde confirmed by ●…itation ●●est How can you prooue that ●…s By many textes of scripture when 〈…〉 wyll and speciallye by Paules argu●…nt grounded vpon effectes For euen ●…y also do die whiche could not imitate ●…am by reason they are not of yeres of ●…reaton but deathe is the rewarde ●…inne ergo all men are in originall ●…ne ●●est VVhat if I shoulde saye that the ●…te death whiche is the seperation of 〈…〉 bodie and the soule and the loose●…ge of the same bodye againe into his ●…t groundes is naturall For all com●…unded thinges are naturally subiecte 〈…〉 dissolution An. God himselfe speakinge by Moys● wil disprooue you Besides this your a●gument holdes not of necessitie For ● thoughe the thinge that is compounde● maye of it owne nature be dissolued y● notwithstandinge it is not dissolued ● verye déede vntill the cause that co●pounded it do first cease to mainteine● together What absurditie then is th● in my spéeche when I say that mā w● in such wise created of soule and body● yea that mans body was in suche w● compounded or compacted togither of ● elementes as the creator of them wol● haue maintained them togither for eu● had not sinne stept in by the waye Quest I graunt then that mortal bodi● are begottē of mortal bodies But wh● is that to the corruptiō of the soule o● lesse thou think that the soules also a● conueied ouer from one into anothe● Ans What opinion manye of the ol● wryters haue had concerning this m●ter I passe not neither will I greatl● striue about it so it be agréede vpon th● originall infection is spredde into vs ● nature Yet thinke I it not good too d● semble this that the doctrine of conueyi● ouer of the soule seemeth very awk to me for either must the whole soule or at least some péece of it be conueied ouer Nowe if the whole bée conueyed then doubtlesse must the partes of it néedes be quite dispatched out of hand But if there bée but some péece of it conueyed howe can anye péece of it bée cut away from an Essence that is most single Quest If the soule come not of the corrupt father but of him that is the father maker of spirits how coms it by that corruptiō Is it by infection of the body
too his rightfull vengeance for to whom is he detter either he destroyeth them out of hande or else pacientlye giuing them respit that they maye not bée altogether without taste of his goodnes either he voutsaueth not too call thē at all or he calles them no further but too make them the more vnexcusable Herevpon it commeth to passe that being left vp too their owne lustes they harden themselues vntill they haue filled vp the full measure of wickednes and then they passe awaye vntoo iudgement In what wyse these causes of the dampnation of the reprobates doo come to passe besides the ordinance of God who forsaketh the reprobates and deliuereth them vp too Sathan and too themselues as that the whole blame doth notwithstāding sticke altogether in themselues I haue shewed already in dew place Quest Then must the vessels of mercye praise the lord and the vessels of wrath blame themselues But whither maye I flee for succour in the perilous temptation of perticular election Ans Unto the effectes whereby the spirituall life is certeinlye discerned and so consequently our electiō like as the lyfe of the bodye is perceiued by feelinge and mouing For wee that walowe as yet in the puddle of this worlde are not able too lyfte vp our selues vntoo that souereyne lyght excepte wee mount vp by those steppes whereby God draweth his chosen vntoo him accordinge too hys foresaid euerlasting ordinance as whom he hath created to his own glory Therefore that I am chosen I shall perceiue first by y holinesse or sanctificationbegon in mée that is to say by my hating of sin and by my louing of rightuousnes Here vnto I shall adde the witnes of the holy ghost comforting my concience like as Dauid said why art thou heauye O my soule why doost thou gréeue thy selfe Put thy trust in the lord Hereto perteineth the earnest minding of Gods benefytes which though it rather frayeth vs than comforteth vs for a time whyle we thinke therwithall vppon our owne vnthankefulnesse yet at the length it must néedes lyft vs vp forasmuch as therein are alwayes too bée séene the manifest tokens of his free and vnchangeable fatherlye loue towardes vs not shadowed but playnelye expressed Upon this Sanctifycation and comforte of the holye Ghoste wee gather fayth And therby wee ryse vp vntoo Christe to whom whosoeuer is geeuen is of necessitye chosen in hym from afore all worldes and shall neuer bee thruste oute of the doores Question VVhat if those witnessinges be faint Answere Then it beheueth vs too knowe that wée bée tryed and therfore that our sluggishnesse is then most too be found fault with Yet withstanding our hartes must not in any wise shrinke but wee must strengthen thē with those indefinite promises and throw dartes at our aduersarie agein For although the incounter of the fleshe ageinst the spirit doo comber our consciences with great doubtinges of the trewnes of our fayth specyally as ost as the spirit seemeth too quayle and in a manner too bee quite quenched yet notwithstandyng it is certeyne that thys spirite whiche setteth it selfe truelye thoughe but faintlye ageynst the assaultes of the fleshe is the spirit of adoption the gift whereof is not too bee repented of For otherwyse the electe myght peryshe and they that bee once iustifyed myght fall away from Christ Wherevppon it woolde folowe either that God is chaungeable or that the sallyng out of his ordynance is vncertein wherof none of both can bee imputed too God without blasphemie Quest But the garlond is geuē to those onely that holde out Ans I graunt so And therfore whosoeuer is elected craueth perseuerance and obtaineth it Quest Think you then that the spirit of adoption is neuer shaken of Ans I confesse that the spirit is now and then interrupted in sore temptations that the testimonies of his dwellinge in vs are oftentimes so brought a sleepe that hee seemeth to bee quite gone from vs for a time But yet for all that I say he is neuer quite taken away for needs must gods determination of sauing his seruaunts stand sure and therfore when ▪ time serues at length the mistes of the fleshe are chaced away and the gladnesse of the lordes sauinge health alwayes restored which shyneth as the Sonne into the troubled consciences of the elect Finally I say that trewe fayth and the effectes thereof are in likewise interrupted in the elect as the powers of y mind bee hindered in them that haue the sleepye disease or in drunkenmen in whom the soule is not taken awaye for there is great oddes betwene the sleepy disease or drunkenuesse and very death and yet that they which haue the spirit of Adoption haue an assured pledge of eiernall life Therefore in this most daungerous incounter the same thing wherwith Satan assayleth vs both can and must warrant vs assured victory For except the spirit of adoption which is also the spirite of holi●●esse rightuousnesse faith and life were present in vs there should bee no striuing in vs but sin should reygne quietly at his pleasure For the man that is not indued with that spirit saith thus I doo the euill that I haue a mind vnto I do no good nor I haue no list too do it But the man that is regenerated and so consequently elected howbeit as yet still wrestling sayeth thus I doo the euill that I wold not I do not the good that I woold doo Wo is mee who shall deliuer me out of the body of this death And in crying out in this wise the elect person casteth hys Anchor in the verye Throne of God the father whom he beholdeth in the preached woord and in the Sacramentes Finally when the elect shall haue gotten the full victorye in the other world he shall say thus I doo the good that I woold doo and I doo none euill nor none I list to doo Question VVhat if a man neuer feele the testimonies of such spirit in himselfe Answere Yet must it not bee deemed that he is one of the number of the reprobates For the lord calleth those that bee his at what time he himself listeth And therefore such manner of men must bee sent away too the woord and the Sacramentes where they maye heere God speaking and alluryng synners vntoo hym For although they receyue not the fruite and operacion of those thynges for a tyme yet must they incorage themselues and also bee diligently styred vp by others too continewe in heeringe the word of God euen ageinst their wills then one tyme or other they shall obtein● that whiche the Lorde as yet deferreth not too the intent too cast them of but contrarywise too sharpen their desyr● and earnestnesse Quest I would therefore that wee might talke amonge ourselues concerning the Sacramentes also about the which in especiallye there is nowe adayes so greate strife betweene the churches Ans Truly I refuse not so to doo Notwithstandinge