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A65229 The papists younger brother, or, The vileness of Quakerism detected as it hath been printed and published by themselves : and an appendix of the Quakers unsound faith, which is also gathered out of their own printed books / by Misoplanes and Philalethes. Misoplanes.; Philalethes. 1679 (1679) Wing W1031; ESTC R28383 121,068 189

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24 25. R. G. We who since we believed received the Atonement shall after our bodily death be raised from the grave and be made partakers of that salvation which through faith and hope we wait for while in the body Q. Numb 20 Answ Thou puttest salvation at a great distance shewing thy self yet in the grave of corruption Is this thy meaning of salvation that thou hopest and waitest for while in the body to be raised from the grave after thy bodily death What strange nonsensical language is this * And was this the salvation that Christs second appearance was looked for to effect Hebr. 9.28 For your better understanding this Quakers mind take his Marginal note * He now hopes and waits for salvation after the bodily death see his sottishness and confusion at other times it was perfectly wrought at once without or else purchased he knows not which at Jerusalem but he hopes for it after his bodily death ah the hypocrites hope shall perish Pr. Pr. Here this Quaker hath given us a tedious chase I shall pursue him as close as I can To believe and wait for the life everlasting after death is no Article of this Quakers Faith this is putting salvation at a great distance according to these Quaking-lines that man shews himself to be in the grave of corruption that believes and waits for salvation after his bodily death To understand salvation so as to hope and wait for it while in the body to be raised from the grave after bodily death this is strange nonsensical language in this Quakers estimate according to Heb. 9.28 truly misunderstood basely wrested by this Quaker salvation after this life ended is not the salvation that Christs second coming is look't for to effect this Quaker in his marginal note scoffs at his Adversary for hoping and waiting for salvation after the bodily death it 's no less fault than sottishness and confusion to hope for salvation after the bodily death everlasting life purchased by Christ upon the Cross at Jerusalem hoped for after bodily death this is sottishness and confusion for any faithful Christians to do yea which is far worse it 's a damnable sin to do so it 's no less than the hypocrites false hope which shall perish Q. p. 29. Q. Numb 21 Also thou grantest that his appearing the second time is without sin to salvation but when thinkest thou that must be Is it in this life or hereafter Thou sayest that after the bodily death you shall be raised out of the grave and made partakers of that salvation 't is strange the salvation of sinners yea of the whole world as thy word is should be compleated at once above 1600 years since as yet to be so long after death lookt for how long is not known to thee Or dost thou look for Christ as the Son of Mary to appear outwardly in a bodily existence to save thee according to thy words If thou dost thou mayest look till thine eyes drop out before thou wilt see such an appearance of him Pr. Pr. Here this Quaker falls foul upon his Adversary in a rude manner Leviathan-like out of his nostrils goeth smoak to darken the truth Christs appearing the second time without sin to salvation is according to this Quaker in this life not hereafter to be raised out of the grave after the bodily death to be partakers after death of that resurrection which is unto life this is that sound Divinity which this Quakers light within him knows nothing of to affirm that the salvation of sinners yea of the whole world should be compleatly finished by Christs death upon the Cross above 1600 years since this is strange Doctrine to this ill-principled Quaker that Christs death upon the Cross so long since past should be effectual to deliver from bodily death hereafter those that believe in him this is that comfortable Doctrine which this Quakers stomack cannot digest you see clearly it 's no part of this Quakers faith to believe that Christ is the Son of the Virgin Mary or to look for Christ as the Son of Mary to appear outwardly in a bodily existence to save those that believe in his name this Quaker is bold to say to this purpose If any man believes that Christ shall come at the last day of judgment to judg the quick and the dead to adjudg the righteous to Heaven to condemn the wicked to Hell then he may look till his eyes drop out before he will see such an appearance of him after this life is ended by a bodily death Christs last coming to judgment is no Article of this Quakers faith without doubt Job that was a perfect man was in the right when he said That he knew that his Redeemer liveth and that he should stand at the latter day upon the earth and that in his flesh when worms had destroyed his body he should see God and his eyes should behold him after his bodily death though his reins were consumed within him Q. p. 30. Q. Numb 22 The works of the Law excluded by the Apostle from justification is when the Law is done without life or spirit so the works not done in Christ the Seed do not justifie The righteousness by faith is when the Law is performed in us by the works of the spirit righteousness in the elect seed c. Pr. Pr. Give me leave to write without offence if this Quaker had not been born out of due time he might in this point have been without exception one of the Tridentine Cabal his spirit agrees well with those Cabal-men about justification by works of righteousness as for Christs righteousness without us made ours by faith this is that Doctrine which is disowned by this Papal-Quaker in this Quaking-account of justification what hath this Quaker said more which the Trent-Council hath not determined to his hand Concil Trid. Cap. 3. Sess 6. Cum ea renascentia per meritum passionis ejus gratia qua justifiunt illis tribuatur Together with the new birth through the Merit of Christs passion grace whereby they are made righteous is imparted to them Cap. 7. Sess 6. Justificatio est sanctificatio renovatio interioris hominis per voluntariam susceptionem gratiae Justification is both the sanctification and renovation of the inward man by grace received as face answers face in the glass so do the Quakers and Papists agree together in the point of Justification by inherent righteousness they do both disclaim the works of the Law before grace received works not done in Christ the Seed do not justifie says the Canting-Quaker Justification is the sanctifying of the inner man by grace received say the Papists The righteousness by faith is when the Law is performed in us by the works of the Spirit saith the Quaker By grace received in the new birth are we made righteous say the Papists Thus the Light within which guides the Quakers to scribble concerning Justification is nothing else
Christ which frees from sin and the law he that hath an ear may hear this false doctrine Q. p. 80. Q. Numb 99 Whereas thou wouldest know with what body the Saints shall arise in that body which Christ shall live in for he is the Saviour of the body the resurrection and life of the body Pr. Pr. The drift of these lines is to give us this quaking-account of the resurrection of the Saints That no particular Saints shall rise with particular bodies from death to life again to any that would know in what body the Saints shall rise these Quakers give this answer they shall rise in that body which Christ doth live in for he is the Saviour of the body but what body is it whereof Christ is the Saviour have not these Quakers told us it is the Church so then this according to the Quakers is the body in which Christ lives and in this body the Saints shall arise thus you may plainly see that the Quakers do plainly deny that particular Saints shall rise from death to life at the last day with their own particular bodies and in what corrupt sense they do hold the resurrection of the body Q. p. 83. Q. Num. 100 Philosophy and Logick which are of the devil Pr. Pr. It 's no wonder that the Quakers do bespatter the Universities and those that are educated in them behold how these Quakers do in their bold ignorance speak evil of those things they know not saying that Philosophy and Logick are of the devil the baseness of this charge is evident I need say no more of it Q. p. 85. Q. Num. 101 Who art querying whether Christ have a body and the Father none shewing thy self not to know the Lords body for the Son is in the Father and they are one and with thy carnal eye lookest upon him to be like thy self if thou knowest his body thou knowest the fathers for they are both one thou full of subtlety who art querying how the Son may be distinguished from the Father and they are not to be distinguished but it is thou who art making many Gods and makest three Gods Pr. Pr. In these quaking-lines we are told to this purpose that Jesus Christ hath no body of flesh united to his Godhead in his own person no more than God the Father hath 2ly That there are no distinction of Persons in the Godhead for as these Quakers say the Son of God and God the Father are not distinguished 3ly These Quakers say that to distinguish God the Son from God the Father is making many Gods 4ly In the Quakers account to affirm three distinct Persons in the Godhead is likewise the making of three Gods Q. p. 98. Q. Num. 102 Christ did not send forth his Disciples to sprinkle a little durty water upon childrens faces as your filthy dreamers do and tell them it is an Ordinance of Christ who are lyars of him Pr. Pr. In these quaking-lines Infant-baptism is basely denied in this Quakers account it 's nothing but sprinkling a little durty water in childrens faces they that baptize children are termed by this Quaker filthy dreamers it 's also here said in effect that they do belye Christ who say that Infant-baptism is an Ordinance of Jesus Christ Q. p. 99 100. Q. Num. 103 The cup which thou drinkest we do deny for thy cup is the cup of devils and thy table is the table of devils which is an Idol and an imitation and thy sacrifice is to devils and not to God for do not drunkards meet at thy table and swearers and cursed speakers and fighters and who follow all manner of filthy pleasures and idolaters and covetous and these are thy companions and thy fellowship at thy table and what hast thou to do to talk of the cup of Christ who sits at the table of devils and drinks the cup of devils Pr. Pr. In these quaking-lines you see how the Sacrament of the Lords Supper is despised the cup blessed a Quaker calls here the cup of devils the Lords table he saith is the Priests table and calls it the table of devils of the Lords table he saith it is an idol and imitation receiving in remembrance of Christ sacrificed for us is sacrificing to devils and not to God in this Quakers esteem that the fellowship at the Lords table is very wicked that Communicants present themselves at the table of devils and do drink the cup of devils the Lords Supper as it is usually celebrated according to Christs own institution is in a Quakers account no more you see but the cup and table of devils an idol and imitation and a sacrificing to the devils and holding fellowship with wicked livers Q. p. 100. Q. Num. 104 Priests and Suppers and bread and wine is an imitation and an image which is the likeness of a thing which the Lord forbids Thou shalt not make to thy self any graven image nor the likeness of any thing Pr. Pr. This Quaker gives us plainly to understand what mean things Priests Suppers bread and wine are or to speak his mind more clearly that Preists the Lords Supper celebrated upon Communion-days Sacramental bread and wine are no more in this Quakers eye but an imitation and an image the likeness of a thing forbidden by God in the second Commandment till this Quakers heated fancy imposed upon him did ever any man affirm or was it ever read that Sacramental bread and wine or the Lords Supper was an image the likeness of a thing forbidden by God in the second Commandment given at mount Sinai surely no man of common sense can swallow this quaking inspiration the great folly of this poor man is transparent Q. p. 104. Q. Num. 105 We are moved by the immediate Spirit of Christ to write to teach or to exhort or to put in print our giving forth papers or printed books it is from the immediate eternal Spirit of God Pr. Pr. We may behold here that all Quakers are in their own account become so many infallible Popes they do all imagine themselves to be possessed of the immediate Eternal Spirit of God of Christ See here also that in all they write teach exhort or print all Quakers are moved by the immediate Spirit of Christ that there are no papers given forth nor books printed by any Quakers though never so full of ignorance of false Grammer of nonsense of false charges of false doctrine of old errors of abominable blasphemy of ridiculous impertinences but they are all basely pretended to be from the immediate Eternal Spirit of God In this Glass you may likewise see in what esteem with themselves their papers and books printed are in comparison of the Scripture this which is Gods word and Gods book given by inspiration of God is with all Quakers decryed as being not the word of God no light no rule but the letter a dead letter an idol husk a shadow dust a carnal letter whilst their papers and books are owned
under the hands of a persecuting generation in Colchester-Castle in the year 1656. Published 1675. Pr. Pr. This Quakers scribbles are in no small request with his quaking-friends here you see they are said to be given forth from the Spirit of the Lord which is a profane equalling of them with the holy Scriptures this quaking holy man of God was in the Quakers account no less inspired by the Holy Ghost than the holy Pen-men of Scripture were it 's no slander to say that the Quakers are not a little fly-blown with spiritual pride not a little of it is here published in print behold this James Parnel was the Quakers martyr that bore a faithful testimony for God even unto death in Colchester-Jayl with respect to this Quakers great worth they were a persecuting generation who did persecute this Quaker according to his true demerit This Collection was published in the year 1675 to tell this generation that this Quaker was like Abel who being dead yet speaketh but I shall truly say not like righteous Abel Let us look into some of his Pamphlets for with them all I shall not trouble your patience The first of the Pamphlets is called A trial of Faith which is thus put to the test Q. p. 4. Q. Numb 53 You believe you shall never overcome your sins so long as you are here or be made free from sins here you shew your faith is not built upon Christ who came to destroy the works of the Devil and to cleanse from all sin Pr. Pr. This is the corrupt testimony of this quaking-martyr that they are no sound believers whose faith doth not cleanse them from all their sins that the faith of Christians is not built upon Christ if it doth not make them free from their sins peccatum ne sit a sinless estate reserved for the Kingdom of Heaven is no true Divinity in the Quakers School according to this high-flown Quaker we must either be wholly free from sin like the angels or we can be no true believers in Christ St. Paul burthened with his body of death was a wretched man in the worse sense one that was not built by faith on Christ no truly faithful Christian suppose this Quaker to be in the right what then then St. John was grosly mistaken in saying thus If we say that we have no sin which the Quakers usually do we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us this Quaker is certainly for a more holy faith than God himself did ever require it 's not the ruling power but the being of sin which this Quakers faith makes free from without doubt this is to be righteous overmuch in this world I leave it to others to judg if the ill spirit of the old Catheri was not gotten into this young Quaker however it 's most clear that unless the Quakers idolized perfection be owned as the true only touchstone of faith the best grounded the most stedfast and saving faith of any Christian is not worth a rush it is an unholy faith to speak this Quakers mind that doth not cleanse from all sin in being thus this Quaker being dead hath unrighteously spoken a lye in the name of the Lord by his false Doctrine he hath concluded the Church of England at home all reformed Churches abroad under unbelief for being of this right sound mind that they shall never be made free from all their sins as long as they are here Q. Q. The next Pamphlet of Parnel's is called Christ exalted into his Throne Pr. Pr. Here is seemingly great honour done to our Saviour Christ but it is only in shew not in truth as of old he was arrayed like a King to his own greater disgrace so he is now cried up by this Quaker to the high dishonour of the holy Scriptures which is no honour to our Lord Jesus Christ Q. p. 15. Q. Numb 54 The Scripture was spoken from the Light but is not the Light nor the word nor the life nor the judg nor the rule nor the guide nor the trier of spirits for all this belongs to Christ Pr. Pr. I may truly say without offence this is none of Abel the righteous his language nor a faithful testimony born for God except another Quaker Atheist or Antiscripturist none would have laid such base things to the charge of the holy Scripture except a Quaker no man did ever call Christ the rule this Quaker is guilty of weak reasoning because Christ is the word the light the life therefore Scripture is not the word of God a light the word of life a judg a guide a trier of spirits behold is not this rare quaking Logick is it not a great shame that such dull reasoning as this is should be fathered on the holy Spirit who is God without question it 's for want of good Catechizing that the Quakers vent such irrational things in print these quaking-lines are fitter for pity than a more serious answer however let it be duly considered that at this door hath been brought in all the filth that hath been cast upon the holy Scripture the Scripture is not the light what is it then darkness saith one Quaker not to be minded in any thing saith another not the word what then the letter a dead letter say several Quakers not the life what then putrefaction and corruption not the judg what then it's the spirit alone which gives true discerning saith another Quaker not the rule what then the Scripture is not the rule of my faith and practise saith another Quaker not the guide what then the Light within is the true guide say all Quakers not the trier of spirits what then the Scripture cannot help to discern betwixt true and false saith another Quaker Thus you see clearly how the Scripture the word of God is become like a dung-cart to receive what filth the Quakers and the Papists have to throw into it is it not very sad that the Quakers way of exalting Christ is by debasing the good word of God what manner of spirit it is that leads the Quakers let all wise men hence judg Q. p. 16. Q. Numb 55 Of this Light you people and teachers of the world are ignorant and so are doting upon the Scripture without with your dark minds there with the blind Pharisees seeking life where it is not to be found Pr. Pr. The voice of righteous Abel is not yet in these quaking lines with this Quaker both people and Priest are alike they are both alike ignorant of Christ the Light because neither people nor their teachers are fond of this Quakers false Christ the Light within therefore this Quaker saith they do fondly dote upon the Scripture without and this is done with dark minds behold as this Quaker thought this is our great fault because we make the Scripture not the Quakers Light within the rule of our faith and life therefore as this Quaker saith we are ignorant of Christ the Light doting on
shall only glance at new matter as I pass along it 's a scurrilous Pamphlet but I shall leave them to answer to another for their hard speeches Q. p. 2. Q. Numb 88 You might as well have condemned the Scriptures to the fire Pr. Pr. When these Quakers had understood that some of their Papers had been condemned to the fire to be burnt then they told their adversaries that they might as well have condemned the Scriptures to the fire behold are not the Quakers scribbles in great esteem amongst them do not the Quakers take their writings to be given by the inspiration of God are not they the holy men of God who speak as they are moved what difference do they make betwixt the Scripture and their Pamphlets do you not see it plain that as these Quakers say the Scripture may as well be burnt as their Books may Q. p. 14. Q. Numb 89 How fain wouldst thou have a place in the earthly letter Pr. Pr. In these quaking-lines you see that Scripture is no more but the earthly letter I may truly say to pass by the meanness of this expression that till Quakerism arose an earthly letter was never read of nor did any Christians ever call the Scripture an earthly letter surely the holy Spirit of God did not breath forth those words Q. p. 15. Q. Numb 90 Neither dost thou know the letters that are given forth by us now which are given forth by the same spirit Pr. Pr. The import of these lines is this That the letters of Quakers are of the same divine authority with the Apostical Epistles that the same Holy Ghost is the author of both that the divine inspiration of both is alike for substance if this be not an abominable assertion then what is Q. p. 39. Q. Numb 91 As the Apostle said Take heed to the light of God within you Pr. See how vainly these Quakers do pretend to the same spirit that the Apostles had for they have in those words belyed the Apostle no Apostle did ever say Take heed to the light of God within you this is only a whim of the Quakers brain which hath no foundation in any Apostolical writings in Scripture we find mention made often of Christ the light and sometimes of Christ in you but no Apostle did ever say Take heed to the light of God within you this is only the Quakers false doctrine Q. p. 44. Q. Numb 92 If thou couldest see but thou art blind thou mightest see the same gift amongst us as was amongst the Apostles Pr. Pr. Behold how the Quakers do boast of themselves that they are endued with the gift of the Holy Ghost to work Miracles as the Apostles were if this be not a gross piece of spiritual pride then what is so Q. p. 57. Q. Numb 93 But him we own as one with us in the eternal unity Pr. Pr. These quaking-words are spoken with reference to George Fox in them we have this account of Quakers that they are in the eternal unity and that George Fox is owned by them to be one with them in the same eternal unity surely these lines smell strong of Parnel's partakers of Christs divine nature that God is with us manifested in the flesh all which is abominable blasphemy Q. p. 64. Q. Numb 94 The dark time and power of Babylon hath long reigned and the works of the Beast by which ye are descended that profess Scripture to be your rule Pr. Pr. Behold how these Quakers deny the Scripture to be the rule of faith how they look upon them with an evil eye that do profess the Scripture to be the rule of faith behold here is mention made by them of the dark time and power of Babylon and the works of the beast to use their own words by which they are descended according to these Quakers they are basely descended who do profess the Scripture to be the rule of faith Q. p. 69. Q. Numb 95 When thou comest to go through Moses and through the Prophets and through John to come to Christ then shalt thou see that the light is but one Pr. Pr. Behold how these deluded Quakers do write non-sense do cut out a strange new way to come to Christ he that reads these lines must baffle his reason corrupt his judgment to conclude that these Quakers were in any wise moved by the Holy Ghost which they do proudly pretend to here is too much gross ignorance to be fathered on him who is God Q. p. 75 76. Q. Numb 96 All the Ministers of the Letter are persecutors of the Spirit Pr. Pr. In these Quakers account the Ministers of the Gospel are no more but Ministers of the Letter and persecuters of the Spirit thus the Quakers do basely undermine the preaching of the Gospel to the great scandal of true Christian Religion to be termed persecutors of the Spirit is a most base disparagement Q. p. 78. Q. Numb 97 Thou wouldest know whether Jesus Christ have a body in heaven he remains in the heavens whereas thou wouldest know whether it be the same that appeared amongst men it is the same that did descend the same did ascend whereas thou wouldest know what manner of body he hath here thou art disputing as the devil was about the body of Moses with Michael the Archangel who said The Lord rebuke thee so say I now the Lord rebuke thee who art disputing about the body of Christ for the body of Christ is but one and he is the head of the body which is the Church Pr. Pr. In these quaking-lines it is not said that Christ hath any body in heaven nay the Quakers are of this vain mind that Jesus Christ is not God and Man in one Person the substance of these Quakers words is plainly this that Christ Jesus his body is one which is his Church behold except the Church which is Christs mystical body our Saviour hath no other body to speak the Quakers mind more fully two of my Neighbour-quakers told me That Christs body did vanish at his Ascension and that now he hath no other flesh or body but the flesh or body of his people behold according to the meaning of Quakers how the Lord Jesus since his Ascension into Heaven hath no true body united to his Godhead in his own person that the body or flesh of Quakers his pretended people is the only body or flesh of our Saviour or to use these Quakers words the Church in their sense is the one body which Christ now hath Q. p. 80. Q. Numb 98 Who redeems and makes free from sin and the law with the body of Christ he that hath an ear may hear Pr. Pr. Here is Christ according to these Quakers made a strange Saviour who makes free from sin and the law with the body of Christ if this be not unscriptural Divinity what is according to these Quakers Christs body is the Quakers Church but surely this is not the body of