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A48828 Seasonable advice to all Protestant people of England heartily recommended by a lover of his countrey.; Seasonable discourse shewing the necessity of maintaining the established religion in opposition to popery. Lloyd, William, 1627-1717.; Fell, John, 1625-1686. 1681 (1681) Wing L2692A; ESTC R13209 23,584 39

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circumstances we are in we there see not only the evil it self but the true Origin or cause and therefore can the better compose and quiet our selves than under the monstrous shapes and false accounts that are given to men in the dark Therefore men must of necessity either better inform themselves or not be over credulous in believing others else they shall never clear themselves from this evil but shall alwayes lye harrassed under false fears and be in danger of taking wrong methods for their own safety Before we dismiss this Head it will not be impertinent to observe that though men matter not what they say of Authority among men of their own perswasion yet some are so wary that when they would impoyson others and are not willing their own tongues should paint the King in those ugly colours they would represent him in they have a cunning device of doing it by the tongues of others viz. by little stories as one between the King and the Cobler being this That the heel of the King's Shooe coming off he steps incognito to a Cobler to set it on which done the Cobler is paid so well that he sends for Ale to make his Master drink the King drinks the Duke of York's health which the Cobler refuses for this reason that he is a Papist then his Majesty drinks the King's health which the Cobler refuses too for saith he the King is little better Which in their canting looks like a Meiosis whereby more is understood than exprest Now because themselves dare not say too openly that the King is a Papist therefore the Cobler is made to do it and that not as from himself but as speaking the common sentiments of the people which is the most wicked way of slandering in the world because the voice of the people makes a much deeper impression than a single opinion The story thus ended it is pretty to observe that this Cobler is made to follow the King where ever he goes At first this was done at Westminster then Windsor sometimes in the way between both and anon about Newmarket and now at last at Woodstock Nor are the places more than the times in which it hath been said to be done For I heard it first about two years since yet now it is told afresh as if done this March when the Court was at Oxford The story it seems is like the Cuckow that comes once in the year sings a while till she is hoarse and the story stale then lyes scab'd a while in a corner and of a suddain comes flush't abroad sings brisk and gains the peoples ear as if it were some new tale she tells These are the great disturbers of our peace and the Thieves that rob us of our our best Jewels in a quiet and a setled mind And whilst they talk of want of Trade themselves by such courses hinder it it being the common way of men first to make an evil and then charge it upon Authority Kings and Judges being made the Scape-goats to bear the peoples sins As there would not be many Thieves were there no Receivers so the mouth of wickedness would not be so open were mens ears stopt against their evil whispers Therefore the best expedient both to compose our minds and to check this spreading leprosie is to follow Solomon's advice Prov. 24.21 My son fear thou the Lord and the King and meddle not with them that are given to change In fine men of hot heads or desperate fortunes or such as have fed on Crown and Church-lands the sin truly lying in those estates not in the persons may reach this way But the people under a resistance are like to prove the miserable hands that shall only minister to the ambition and interest of others For what gains can you expect but hard marches hungry bellies field quarters frequent alarms bloody battels wounds and death Haec spolia nostra If you come off with life loss of limbs scars pains aches and poverty are like to be all your trophies For when the Parliament Army broke up the main Body being by Arms put out of a way to live some returned Shabs to their own Countreys others sought for death in foreign Service and some turning Robbers took up their last Quarters at the Gallows Therefore though you may hear fine stories of Liberty and Reformation which are alwayes the Pleas of Rebellion 't was so in the matter of Corah 't was so lately with us and so with Mahomet who in the end only purchased a Kingdom by his Souldiers blood yet it is good for men to consult their own safety and not run out of Gods blessing into the warm Sun FINIS
obligation of honouring their Father by which even Presbyterian Writers Mr. Dod in particular understand not only natural Parents but Kings with the natural and indispensable duties of tribute custom fear and honour Rom. 13.7 We may yet further observe that the Jewes had really such a Tradition which our Saviour there overthrows but we have no such Law therefore these Pleas run upon a false presumption and have no foundation and therefore are false in themselves and need not the authority of a Divine command to the contrary to put them to shame and silence I wish such men would consider that by such corrupt discourses they utterly destroy that argument which themselves are ready enough to use in order to the perswading Princes to beat out Popery and to establish the Protestant Religion in their Dominions drawn from their own safety among Protestants and dangers among Popish subjects since resistance is favoured justified and practised by both Where was the safety of King Charles the First among Protestants What is the difference between an Ax and Poison or a Pistol What is the difference between the Popes absolving some Subjects from their Allegeance and your teaching that no Allegeance or duty is owing to some Princes What difference between the Popes disposing of Crowns and your setting up an Usurper Here is no room for any unless a School distinction which is sometimes so nice that the difference is not to be found But you will say that Princes are secure enough among Protestants when they rule well but I pray who must be Judge of that Even your own selves and then the meaning is they are safe while they rule according to your own minds but not otherwise and so much safety there is for them amongst the worst Papists in the World Therefore resisters utterly destroy this argument and lose the great advantage they might otherwise have made of it It is then neither our interest nor duty nor the priviledge of our Laws to make resistance against Authority But there are doubtless divers motives and considerations yet remaining from which the fondness of some men and the subtilty of others raise a fancied necessity of such proceedings else they think they are all undone Horse and Foot Soul and body for else say they Popery will come in for nothing is now likely to keep it out but the Sword To which I answer 1. When the Heathen Emperours commanded the Christians to deliver up their Bibles and by confiscation of Goods imprisonments deaths and all possible artifices and cruelties endeavoured to root the name of Christians out of the World might not they have said nothing but standing on our guards can save us Yet in the time of Tertullian they told the Emperour that they had Christians in his Armies in every Town and City that they wanted not Arms men nor courage to defend themselves from persecuting hands yet they dare do no such thing because their Lord and Master Christ Jesus had left them no other weapons but prayers and tears And what was the issue God carried them through all those fiery Tryals and increased them as he did the Israelites of old under the very means used for their extirpation It is God that rules over all and his providence extends to the meanest creatures not a sparrow falls to the ground without his will be sure then that his Church shall not be left to the will of his enemies any further than serves the wise ends of his providence The Jews when few and weak were preserved in the midst of a world of enemies the Christian Church upheld in the bosome of an Heathen Empire who patiently submitted to all severities and waited milder providences till he pleased to bring them forth to the light and shew them his righteousness Mic. 7.9 These all trusted in God and were delivered Why then should we be faithless as if the Lords arm were shortned that he cannot help us This in Rev. 13.10 is called the Faith and Patience of the Saints that they suffered and would not resist persecuting Governours And indeed such resistance most plainly evidences the want of Faith and Patience both for men first doubt God will not deal well by them and then resolve right or wrong to carve for themselves And for this reason God is more glorified and Religion more advanced in unjust sufferings than in unjust resistance because in such sufferings men shew their Faith their Hope their Patience Fortitude and other graces which evidence the excellency of the Christian Religion by which they wearied and overcame their fiercest persecutors and moreover the wisdom goodness and power of God is more clearly seen in their preservation and deliverance when men sit still and see the Salvation of God than when they seek by humane policy and strength to save themselves for this speaks both their weakness and derives a reproach upon the Religion they profess and also disposes themselves and others to attribute what safety they have not so much to God as to themselves 2. The doing evil that good may come on it never ends well Where I pray is all the fruit and gain of the last Civil War What is the Protestant Religion the better or Protestants the safer thereby Nay what have not both suffered since then and as we may undoubtedly affirm for that very cause For are not the confusions of our Religion and the danger of us all both occasioned by our present differences and these differences occasioned by that resistance and the lawless liberty it took to it self greater now than ever God commonly payes men in their own Coyn. Thus upon the Babylonish captivity God told the remains of the people Jer. 42. that in case they would continue in their own Land he would build and not pull them down v. 10. But if they would go into Egypt for fear of the Sword and Famine which they afterwards did do then v. 16. The Sword which you feared shall overtake you there in the Land of Egypt and the Famine whereof ye were afraid shall follow close after you in Egypt and there shall ye dye Divine Justice overtakes men in their own wayes and snares them in the works of their own hands making those very courses whereby they would keep off judgments to prove their ruine I am sure the Jews found it so for John 11.48 they plead the necessity of crucifying our Saviour in order to the preservation of themselves and their Religion If we let him thus alone all men will believe on him and the Romans will come and take away our place and Nation and for that very sin God brought the Romans upon them who indeed took away their Place and Nation too And if these things are written for our example upon whom the ends of the World are come we cannot in any reason think we may run into those great sins of Rebellion and murther which are a breach of so many Gospel precepts and so contrary to