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listen_v but_o who_o will_v grant_v in_o proper_a speech_n that_o these_o be_v his_o death_n or_o that_o his_o death_n be_v any_o or_o all_o these_o and_o if_o you_o take_v christ_n death_n by_o the_o figure_n synecdoche_n a_o part_n of_o christ_n suffering_n for_o the_o whole_a etc._n pag._n 41._o etc._n etc._n then_o why_o do_v g_o you_o so_o much_o abhor_v that_o figure_n here_o and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o soul_n proper_a suffering_n be_v admit_v also_o into_o the_o work_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n although_o it_o can_v not_o proper_o die_v where_o you_o nip_n i_o also_o for_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o kind_n of_o sense_n die_v i_o hope_v in_o due_a place_n you_o shall_v have_v a_o reasonable_a answer_n to_o that_o matter_n till_o then_o have_v patience_n i_o pray_v and_o thus_o h_o you_o come_v to_o skan_v my_o assumption_n also_o 253._o pag._n 253._o that_o adam_n commit_v sin_n most_o proper_o in_o his_o soul_n which_o you_o grant_v in_o one_o sense_n be_v true_a but_o direct_o repugnant_a to_o my_o conclusion_n how_o i_o pray_v 25_o pray_v pag._n 25_o if_o i_o mean_v that_o adam_n soul_n transgress_v the_o commandment_n with_o her_o body_n and_o by_o her_o body_n that_o be_v the_o soul_n as_o agent_n the_o body_n as_o the_o instrument_n they_o the_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v in_o spite_n of_o my_o heart_n ergo_fw-la in_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n christ_n soul_n must_v be_v punish_v with_o her_o body_n and_o by_o her_o body_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o labour_v to_o overthrow_v with_o all_o the_o wit_n i_o have_v nay_o than_o the_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v that_o the_o immortal_a part_n the_o mind_n be_v punish_v peculiar_o and_o not_o by_o and_o from_o the_o body_n only_o see_v in_o all_o even_o outward_a sin_n the_o soul_n sin_v both_o principal_o and_o also_o in_o a_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a manner_n by_o itself_o yea_o before_o the_o body_n sin_v albeit_o the_o body_n sin_v also_o secondary_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n proper_a to_o itself_o even_o as_o the_o instrument_n as_o you_o say_v yea_o further_o i_o mean_v that_o some_o sin_n the_o soul_n act_v in_o and_o by_o itself_o mere_o and_o therefore_o it_o suffer_v likewise_o some_o punishment_n mere_o in_o itself_o which_o touch_v not_o the_o body_n at_o all_o unless_o by_o sympathy_n only_o and_o that_o only_o when_o they_o grow_v vehement_a but_o all_o this_o you_o here_o deny_v doctrine_n very_o stranâ_n doctrine_n teach_v that_o the_o soul_n proper_o commit_v no_o sin_n but_o by_o and_o with_o the_o body_n that_o be_v the_o soul_n in_o itself_o &_o by_o itself_o alone_o sin_v not_o and_o so_o consequent_o that_o god_n temporal_o and_o eternal_o punish_v the_o soul_n only_o by_o the_o body_n this_o be_v the_o true_a effect_n of_o your_o discourse_n here_o for_o proof_n of_o the_o first_o you_o say_v 25_o say_v pag._n 25_o god_n do_v not_o say_v to_o adam_n thou_o shall_v not_o like_v fruiââ_n like_v the_o soudden_a fruiââ_n it_o or_o desire_v it_o which_o the_o soul_n of_o adam_n do_v but_o thou_o shall_v not_o eat_v thereof_o which_o can_v not_o be_v perform_v but_o by_o the_o hand_n and_o mouth_n of_o adam_n and_o therefore_o adam_n transgress_v the_o commandment_n not_o by_o his_o soul_n but_o by_o his_o body_n even_o as_o in_o murder_n theft_n and_o adultery_n these_o fact_n man_n commit_v by_o their_o body_n and_o not_o by_o their_o soul_n and_o after_o all_o provocation_n and_o pleasure_n of_o sin_n the_o soul_n take_v from_o she_o '_o body_n all_o act_n of_o sin_n she_o commit_v by_o her_o body_n both_o which_o speech_n be_v exceed_o untrue_a and_o hurtful_a for_o even_o in_o these_o sin_n the_o soul_n as_o i_o say_v sin_v principal_o and_o peculiar_o before_o that_o the_o body_n sin_v at_o all_o yea_o the_o desire_v and_o like_n of_o evell_n be_v sin_n before_o the_o outward_a act_n be_v consummate_v and_o finish_v this_o paul_n ãâã_d paul_n rom._n ãâã_d understand_v at_o length_n when_o he_o become_v a_o christian_a though_o a_o long_a while_n be_v a_o pharisee_n he_o know_v it_o not_o and_o it_o seem_v this_o be_v in_o christ_n time_n the_o heresy_n of_o the_o pharisee_n against_o who_o he_o show_v that_o not_o only_o the_o outward_a fact_n of_o bodily_a sin_n be_v sin_n but_o also_o 5.22.28_o also_o âat_a 5.22.28_o even_o the_o very_a thought_n and_o like_n towards_o sin_n wherefore_o adam_n be_v as_o well_o forbid_v to_o desire_n or_o like_v that_o fruit_n as_o to_o eat_v it_o which_o you_o deny_v the_o commandment_n be_v natural_o engrave_v in_o adam_n heart_n in_o his_o creation_n which_o since_o moses_n make_v distinct_a and_o diverse_a from_o all_o the_o rest_n which_o concern_v the_o outward_a act_n therefore_o distinct_o he_o say_v thou_o shall_v not_o desire_v or_o covet_v so_o that_o to_o desire_v the_o forbid_a
doââ_n full_o ãâã_d unto_o emphasis_n 53_o emphasis_n isa_n 53_o he_o sustain_v our_o very_a sorrow_n or_o our_o sorrow_n themselves_o and_o this_o we_o conclude_v the_o rather_o because_o the_o sense_n of_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n 2d_o sorrow_n heb._n 2d_o only_o be_v the_o ransom_n ordain_v and_o consecrate_v by_o god_n in_o christ_n that_o by_o they_o his_o suffering_n shall_v be_v accomplish_v &_o our_o sin_n satisfy_v whatsoever_o therefore_o in_o this_o life_n may_v be_v painful_a &_o be_v due_a to_o mankind_n general_o for_o sin_n &_o in_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v no_o sin_n that_o christ_n suffer_v whole_o and_o alltogeather_o for_o we_o even_o the_o same_o which_o else_o we_o shall_v which_o be_v your_o own_o 28_n own_o pa._n 28_n plain_a confession_n also_o i_o grant_v indeed_o it_o utter_o impossible_a that_o he_o who_o be_v uncapable_a of_o sin_n yea_o god_n himself_o shall_v be_v real_o separate_v from_o god_n or_o hate_v or_o weaken_v in_o faith_n or_o punish_v external_o 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will_v then_o in_o the_o local_a hell_n itself_o all_o these_o our_o due_a sorrow_n therefore_o and_o all_o this_o our_o sharp_a deserve_a pain_n even_o god_n own_o immediate_a hand_n smite_v the_o soul_n for_o sin_n which_o far_o exceed_v and_o comprehend_v as_o it_o be_v all_o other_o pain_n christ_n without_o any_o dispensation_n or_o qualification_n whatsoever_o endure_v for_o us._n this_o be_v that_o which_o we_o say_v and_o thus_o jerom_n also_o expound_v this_o very_a text_n 53._o storm_n in_o ãâã_d 53._o say_v he_o a_o quod_fw-la nos_fw-la pro_fw-la nostris_fw-la debebamus_fw-la sceleribus_fw-la sustinere_fw-la ille_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la '_o passus_fw-la est_fw-la turn_v now_o your_o vain_a and_o frivolous_a insultation_n against_o jerom_n for_o his_o indefinite_a speech_n to_o who_o it_o pertain_v in_o this_o case_n aswell_o as_o to_o i_o 26â_n pag._n 26â_n if_o you_o be_v not_o a_o respecter_n of_o person_n say_v to_o he_o b_o you_o may_v do_v well_o st_n jerom_n to_o go_v to_o the_o university_n again_o whence_o you_o come_v afore_o you_o be_v wise_a and_o there_o learn_v to_o put_v quantity_n to_o your_o proposition_n that_o we_o may_v know_v when_o you_o speak_v of_o any_o thing_n whether_o you_o mean_v all_o or_o some_o but_o jerom_n will_v be_v wise_a enough_o to_o answer_v you_o if_o he_o be_v alive_a that_o whersoever_o he_o study_v he_o know_v so_o much_o that_o in_o learning_n and_o reason_n a_o indefinite_a proposition_n be_v to_o be_v take_v as_o universal_a in_o a_o necessary_a matter_n ãâã_d ãâã_d specialââ_n satisfy_v god_n unââall_a justice_n ãâã_d *_o as_o the_o undertake_n of_o a_o surety_n be_v in_o his_o stead_n who_o he_o be_v surety_n for_o and_o yet_o namely_o but_o so_o far_o as_o know_v possibility_n admit_v and_o indeed_o no_o further_o now_o this_o be_v apparent_a in_o this_o case_n of_o christ_n suretyship_n and_o suffering_n in_o our_o steed_n he_o suffer_v all_o the_o whole_a punishment_n of_o sin_n due_a to_o mankind_n whatsoever_o be_v possible_a for_o he_o be_v a_o sinless_a man_n &_o also_o very_a god_n to_o suffer_v and_o further_o than_o this_o none_o will_v imagine_v or_o think_v that_o any_o unless_o mad_a man_n do_v affirm_v you_o charge_v meâ_n c_o hereafter_o that_o i_o falsify_v this_o place_n of_o jerom_n 3.13_o ãâã_d 350._o ââreat_a 1._o ãâã_d 85._o curse_n ãâã_d i_o put_v it_o âââhus_o maââctum_fw-la ãâã_d a_o parenthesis_n âânod_n enim_fw-la ââal_a 3.13_o because_o d_o i_o do_v put_v in_o e_fw-la maledictum_fw-la with_o his_o word_n which_o be_v a_o silly_a devise_n to_o turn_v of_o jerom_n without_o answer_n for_o by_o it_o i_o express_v jeroms_n meaning_n f_o his_o word_n have_v plain_a reference_n to_o maledictum_fw-la in_o the_o g_o apostle_n who_o he_o cite_v immediate_o before_o this_o be_v they_o none_o other_o but_o a_o honest_a falsify_v of_o my_o author_n now_o that_o this_o place_n of_o isay_n and_o the_o whole_a doctrine_n which_o i_o avouch_o touch_v these_o suffering_n of_o christ_n for_o we_o may_v the_o better_o be_v receive_v let_v we_o note_v that_o the_o public_a doctrine_n appoint_v by_o h_o authority_n to_o be_v teach_v through_o our_o england_n express_v the_o very_a same_o word_n which_o auâââtie_n i_o have_v âââged_v &_o exââsed_v treat_v ãâã_d 88.89_o âhe_n answer_v to_o iâ_n a_o word_n namely_o nowells_n catechism_n where_o it_o be_v thus_o teach_v he_o pay_v and_o suffer_v the_o pain_n due_a to_o we_o and_o by_o this_o mean_v deliver_v we_o from_o the_o same_o neither_o be_v it_o unused_a among_o man_n âne_a to_o promise_v and_o to_o be_v surety_n yea_o sometime_o to_o suffer_v for_o a_o other_o but_o with_o christ_n as_o our_o surety_n so_o suffer_v for_o we_o god_n deal_v as_o it_o be_v with_o extremity_n of_o law_n but_o to_o we_o who_o sin_n deserve_a punishment_n &_o due_a pain_n he_o lay_v on_o christ_n he_o use_v singular_a lenity_n gentleness_n clemency_n and_o mercy_n christ_n therefore_o suffer_v and_o in_o suffer_v overcome_v death_n the_o pain_n appoint_v by_o the_o everliving_a god_n for_o man_n offence_n again_o his_o will_n be_v to_o suffer_v all_o extremity_n for_o we_o who_o have_v deserve_v all_o extremity_n all_o these_o thing_n be_v take_v upon_o himself_o he_o destroy_v they_o all_o where_o mark_v also_o what_o doctrine_n the_o law_n of_o this_o realm_n consonant_o publish_v and_o command_v in_o the_o homily_n of_o christ_n passion_n see_v whether_o it_o mislike_v you_o or_o no._n the_o â_o the_o hom._n â_o hom_o make_v christ_n put_v himself_o between_o god_n deserve_v wrath_n and_o our_o sin_n the_o extreme_a part_n of_o his_o passion_n if_o this_o be_v the_o extreme_a part_n of_o his_o passion_n than_o it_o be_v a_o further_a feeling_n than_o the_o sense_n of_o bodily_a pain_n only_o it_o can_v be_v any_o other_o than_o his_o feel_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n spiritual_o which_o our_o sin_n deserve_v therefore_o by_o the_o homily_n he_o feel_v god_n proper_a wrath_n spiritual_o which_o our_o 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justify_v that_o ââ_o that_o 2._o tim._n ââ_o christ_n give_v himself_o the_o price_n of_o redemption_n for_o we_o which_o we_o else_o shall_v have_v pay_v where_o 261._o where_o pa._n 261._o you_o except_v against_o this_o text_n in_o timoth_n that_o i_o say_v the_o scripture_n speak_v here_o after_o the_o common_a use_n &_o custom_n of_o redeem_n captives_z take_v in_o war_n when_o a_o captive_a be_v not_o able_a some_o other_o friend_n pay_v antilytron_n the_o same_o price_n for_o the_o captive_a which_o else_o he_o shall_v you_o ask_v who_o tell_v i_o that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v after_o the_o common_a use_n of_o enemy_n i_o answer_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o word_n antilytron_n a_o ransom_n import_v so_o much_o which_o be_v proper_o use_v in_o such_o case_n
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the_o law_n 264._o pag._n 264._o and_o therefore_o b_o you_o spare_v i_o not_o for_o c_o saying_n that_o paul_n here_o in_o his_o application_n out_o of_o moses_n name_v a_o part_n of_o the_o just_a curse_n of_o the_o law_n for_o sin_n 40._o treat_n 1._o pag._n 40._o thereby_o mean_v and_o infer_v to_o his_o purpose_n the_o whole_a where_o you_o must_v be_v so_o good_a as_o to_o understand_v i_o by_o my_o own_o word_n in_o other_o place_n 290._o pag_n 290._o for_o thus_o do_v you_o know_v e_o i_o limit_v my_o speech_n else_o where_o as_o touch_v the_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n christ_n be_v as_o sharp_o touch_v as_o the_o very_a reprobat_n 81._o treat_n 1._o pag_n 81._o and_o christ_n suffering_n be_v equal_a to_o the_o very_a hellish_a torment_n in_o vehemency_n of_o pain_n and_o sharpness_n again_o f_o this_o price_n equal_o in_o justice_n must_v be_v keep_v so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v possible_a 26._o pag._n 26._o and_o 37._o and_o pag._n 37._o because_o there_o be_v no_o 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it_o of_o the_o power_n which_o it_o have_v over_o the_o wicked_a who_o joy_n and_o pomp_n be_v only_o in_o this_o world_n in_o that_o it_o cut_v of_o all_o their_o hope_n it_o end_v their_o pleasure_n and_o mar_v all_o their_o beauty_n i_o say_v in_o this_o psalm_n where_o all_o express_a circumstance_n do_v show_v that_o the_o prophet_n speak_v of_o this_o death_n not_o of_o hell_n yet_o david_n here_o say_v 1â_n say_v verse_n 1â_n notwithstanding_o god_n shall_v deliver_v my_o soul_n from_o the_o power_n of_o sheol_n that_o be_v death_n or_o the_o state_n of_o death_n when_o he_o shall_v reoeave_v i_o most_o mighty_o so_o tremelius_fw-la turn_v it_o note_v here_o david_n hope_n of_o the_o resurrection_n which_o i_o think_v he_o have_v well_o understand_v in_o this_o place_n otherwise_o david_n may_v here_o comfort_v himself_o in_o this_o that_o he_o know_v god_n will_v save_v he_o alive_a from_o this_o common_a death_n not_o always_o as_o you_o frivolous_o object_n but_o oftentimes_o yea_o always_o till_o he_o shall_v enjoy_v the_o kingdom_n which_o indeed_o god_n do_v for_o he_o when_o he_o be_v near_o death_n not_o seldom_o and_o when_o his_o enemy_n &_o the_o wicked_a be_v catch_v therewith_o again_o that_o 8â_n that_o psal_n 8â_n psalm_n show_v it_o also_o where_o it_o be_v thus_o write_v my_o soul_n be_v fill_v with_o sorrow_n and_o my_o life_n draw_v near_o to_o sheol_n by_o his_o life_n he_o mean_v his_o soul_n the_o proper_a cause_n and_o fountain_n of_o life_n in_o he_o which_o also_o in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o sentence_n he_o express_o name_v as_o the_o manner_n of_o phrase_n in_o the_o psalm_n be_v in_o the_o 2._o part_n of_o the_o sentence_n common_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o same_o thing_n that_o be_v utter_v in_o the_o former_a but_o vary_v the_o term_n that_o life_n here_o shall_v signify_v the_o body_n distinct_o from_o the_o soul_n there_o be_v no_o such_o likelihood_n nor_o reason_n indeed_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o life_n may_v signify_v here_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n beside_o as_o in_o these_o âesaide_a psal_n â_o 48._o &_o 49_o â_o &_o 10_o 16._o all_o â116_n 8._o &_o in_o âây_a many_o âaces_n of_o scripââe_n beside_o and_o so_o may_v c_o nephesh_v the_o soul_n also_o very_o well_o and_o then_o sheol_n and_o hades_n signify_v not_o peculiarly_a and_o distinct_o the_o grave_a which_o only_o be_v for_o the_o carcase_n but_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o whole_a man_n after_o he_o have_v no_o be_v in_o this_o world_n in_o which_o regard_n choose_v what_o sense_n you_o will_v either_o that_o nephesh_n and_o chai_fw-mi shall_v in_o all_o these_o place_n of_o the_o psalm_n before_o handle_v signify_v strict_o the_o soul_n as_o very_o fit_o it_o may_v or_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n consist_v both_o of_o a_o soul_n and_o of_o a_o live_a body_n contrary_a to_o which_o estate_n sheol_n and_o hades_n be_v very_o often_o take_v 30.23_o g_o that_o be_v if_o it_o âre_n not_o strict_o use_v peculiarly_a ââe_z habitation_n âsây_a soul_n yet_o ââs_o the_o condiâur_n of_o the_o whole_a âson_n that_o be_v âââh_o of_o soul_n &_o ââdy_n separate_v by_o death_n âob_v 30.23_o and_o do_v peradventure_o so_o it_o be_v understand_v here_o in_o these_o place_n in_o which_o sense_n sheol_n &_o hades_n be_v far_o from_o signify_v hell_n yea_o or_o heaven_n either_o yea_o or_o only_o and_o mere_o the_o grave_a but_o it_o signify_v destruction_n from_o out_o of_o this_o world_n &_o no-being_a here_o any_o more_o as_o afore_o time_n to_o the_o whole_a person_n that_o be_v both_o to_o the_o soul_n and_o to_o the_o body_n and_o thus_o sheol_n and_o hades_n job_n resemble_v to_o a_o house_n or_o habitation_n where_o he_o name_v it_o â _o beth_n mâgned_v lecol_fw-mi chai_fw-mi the_o habitation_n after_o this_o world_n appoint_v for_o every_o person_n or_o if_o you_o will_v for_o all_o live_a thing_n the_o same_o also_o job_n wish_v and_o desire_v of_o god_n to_o himself_o that_o god_n will_v hide_v he_o bisheol_n in_o this_o world_n of_o the_o decease_a 14.13_o âob_v 14.13_o &_o will_v give_v he_o term_v till_o his_o wrath_n be_v overpast_v in_o another_o place_n he_o comfort_v himself_o think_v quick_o to_o enjoy_v it_o say_v â _o if_o i_o have_v any_o hope_n sheol_n or_o hades_n 17.13_o âob_v 17.13_o the_o world_n of_o the_o decease_a shall_v be_v my_o habitation_n he_o join_v thereunto_o also_o particular_o the_o grave_n but_o as_o touch_v sheol_n see_v job_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o his_o continual_a habitation_n till_o the_o world_n end_n it_o can_v be_v mean_v only_o of_o the_o grave_a for_o his_o body_n which_o endure_v but_o a_o very_a short_a time_n neither_o have_v his_o flesh_n any_o be_v at_o all_o after_o it_o be_v turn_v to_o very_a earth_n and_o worm_n he_o speak_v here_o therefore_o also_o of_o his_o soul_n continue_v habitation_n or_o mansion_n in_o another_o world_n dy._n gen._n 37.35_o because_o they_o ââch_a die_n their_o ââons_n do_v fall_v ââune_o according_a to_o the_o latin_n ââtase_n cadere_fw-la ââidere_fw-la occunââ_n to_o dy._n and_o in_o great_a reason_n this_o be_v that_o which_o jaacob_n mean_v when_o he_o say_v he_o will_v go_v down_o mourning_n to_o his_o son_n iâ_n sheol_n that_o be_v he_o will_v mourn_v till_o he_o die_v for_o this_o he_o mean_v by_o *_o go_v down_o here_o speak_v of_o death_n and_o then_o he_o hope_v to_o enjoy_v the_o society_n of_o his_o dear_a son_n in_o soul_n for_o his_o body_n he_o think_v be_v devour_v and_o digest_v in_o the_o belly_n of_o wild_a beast_n therefore_o he_o will_v go_v to_o the_o soul_n of_o his_o son_n in_o sheol_n or_o else_o understand_v here_o the_o dissolution_n &_o passage_n of_o his_o whole_a person_n he_o may_v mean_v partly_o his_o go_v down_o to_o the_o grave_n as_o touch_v his_o body_n and_o yet_o also_o the_o enjoy_n of_o the_o society_n of_o his_o dear_a son_n in_o sheol_n which_o sure_o as_o i_o say_v can_v not_o be_v in_o body_n but_o in_o soul_n thus_o sheol_n here_o have_v respect_n to_o the_o change_a estate_n of_o jacobs_n whole_a person_n dissolve_v and_o not_o to_o one_o part_n thereof_o only_o his_o body_n but_o to_o his_o soul_n also_o and_o it_o have_v respect_n likewise_o to_o the_o estate_n of_o his_o dead_a son_n soul_n where_o this_o love_a father_n hope_v again_o to_o have_v society_n with_o he_o not_o any_o where_o else_o without_o which_o he_o can_v not_o be_v comfort_v albeit_o in_o another_o place_n it_o seem_v he_o limit_v sheol_n to_o the_o grave_n only_o but_o that_o we_o do_v so_o understand_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o circumstance_n 42._o circumstance_n gen._n 42._o you_o will_v bring_v my_o grey_a head_n with_o sorrow_n to_o the_o grave_a but_o again_o to_o follow_v our_o purpose_n good_a hezekiah_n also_o look_v for_o sheol_n to_o be_v his_o habitation_n likewise_o after_o this_o life_n i_o say_v say_v 12._o say_v isay_n 38._o ââ_o 11_o 12._o he_o i_o shall_v go_v to_o the_o gate_n of_o sheol_n the_o land_n of_o the_o dead_a i_o shall_v not_o see_v the_o lord_n in_o the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n i_o shall_v see_v man_n no_o more_o among_o the_o inhabitant_n of_o the_o world_n my_o habitation_n or_o mansion_n be_v translate_v and_o remove_v from_o i_o as_o a_o shepherd_n tent_n etc._n etc._n this_o here_o can_v be_v the_o grave_a nor_o hell_n which_o he_o describe_v for_o he_o think_v he_o shall_v they_o have_v dye_v and_o thus_o his_o habitation_n he_o think_v shall_v have_v be_v remove_v and_o translate_v from_o he_o that_o be_v i_o take_v it_o his_o body_n shall_v be_v remove_v from_o his_o soul_n which_o be_v the_o mansion_n or_o habitation_n of_o his_o soul_n while_o he_o live_v but_o now_o he_o shall_v
f_z you_o object_n but_o consent_v with_o irenaeus_n before_o and_o with_o other_o after_o he_o as_o shall_v appear_v 188._o ãâã_d innius_n ãâã_d on_o this_o chap._n 188._o who_o be_v no_o montanist_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v true_a that_o somewhere_o he_o take_v inferos_fw-la pro_fw-la locali_fw-la determinatione_fw-la as_o he_o speak_v for_o the_o peculiar_a and_o determinat_fw-la place_n of_o the_o wicked_a decease_a that_o be_v hell_n strict_o and_o proper_o 4._o ãâã_d 4._o thus_o he_o do_v in_o that_o g_o against_o martion_n with_o you_o cite_v pag._n 201._o also_o in_o that_o h_o objection_n of_o certain_a haeretike_n who_o he_o confute_v 55._o ãâã_d anima_fw-la 55._o not_o the_o true_a christian_n as_o i_o you_o k_n misconceive_v they_o argue_v thus_o as_o you_o do_v in_o hoc_fw-la christus_fw-la jnfiros_fw-la adiit_fw-la ne_fw-la nos_fw-la adiremus_fw-la edition_n 188._o ãâã_d title_n of_o âooke_n in_o âââelius_a &_o âââs_a edition_n christ_n therefore_o go_v to_o hell_n to_o the_o end_n that_o we_o may_v never_o come_v there_o he_o answer_v they_o that_o it_o be_v false_a that_o christ_n go_v to_o jnferos_fw-la in_o that_o sense_n that_o be_v to_o hell_n for_o than_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o the_o wicked_a heathen_n and_o the_o godly_a christian_n if_o one_o &_o the_o same_o prison_n after_o death_n be_v for_o they_o both_o take_v it_o for_o a_o thing_n general_o grant_v in_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n be_v dead_a go_v only_o thither_o where_o the_o godly_a dead_a be_v and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v a_o wicked_a and_o haereticall_a thing_n to_o think_v he_o go_v where_o the_o damn_a be_v that_o be_v into_o hell_n and_o so_o he_o quite_o overthrow_v your_o opinion_n together_o with_o the_o reason_n thereof_o as_o a_o opinion_n which_o if_o any_o hold_v they_o be_v ill_o think_v of_o in_o those_o day_n 33._o ãâã_d 99_o de_fw-fr âââes_fw-fr ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr ãâã_d 33._o thus_o also_o be_v augustin_n well_n l_o understand_v where_o he_o deny_v that_o the_o patriarch_n be_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o hell_n namely_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a because_o they_o be_v in_o abrahaâs_n bosom_n which_o yet_o 20.15_o yet_o epist_n 5â_n de_fw-fr civi_fw-la â_o 20.15_o elsewhere_o he_o grant_v unto_o that_o they_o may_v be_v apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a &_o namely_o where_o the_o godly_a dead_a shall_v be_v so_o that_o thus_o if_o you_o have_v but_o distinguish_v these_o and_o other_o father_n like_o word_n as_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v do_v there_o need_v no_o such_o folly_n of_o contradiction_n to_o be_v impute_v unto_o they_o as_o 204_o as_o pag._n 18â_n 200._o 204_o you_o do_v lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o this_o point_n altogether_o undeserved_o which_o be_v well_o observe_v you_o shall_v see_v that_o all_o the_o father_n as_o mr_n junius_n say_v both_o greek_a &_o latin_a do_v take_v hades_n and_o inferos_fw-la promisââ_n inferos_fw-la promisââ_n indifferent_o for_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a as_o well_o pertain_v to_o that_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a as_o to_o the_o damn_a likewise_o athanasius_n also_o say_v châââ_n say_v athanas_n incar_n châââ_n ubi_fw-la tenebatur_fw-la anima_fw-la humana_fw-la in_o morte_fw-la ibi_fw-la exhibuit_fw-la humanam_fw-la svam_fw-la animam_fw-la where_o humane_a soul_n be_v hold_v by_o death_n there_o he_o bring_v his_o humane_a soul_n mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o his_o humane_a soul_n come_v under_o the_o same_o condition_n of_o death_n as_o other_o man_n soul_n do_v not_o that_o he_o go_v to_o the_o place_n of_o the_o damn_a neiter_fw-mi must_v he_o be_v understand_v after_o 214._o after_o pag._n 179_o 186._o 214._o your_o partial_a translation_n but_o after_o his_o own_o language_n the_o greek_a when_o you_o say_v ex_fw-la orco_fw-la out_o of_o hell_n himself_o say_v exhadou_a out_o of_o the_o power_n of_o death_n so_o that_o châââ_n that_o de_fw-fr saluââ_n vent_v châââ_n he_o say_v not_o a_o word_n that_o christ_n be_v in_o hell_n but_o only_o that_o his_o soul_n be_v in_o hades_n in_o the_o dominion_n of_o death_n as_o similitude_n as_o ad_fw-la noâââ_n similitude_n other_o good_a man_n soul_n be_v also_o whence_o he_o by_o his_o victorious_a return_n conquer_a death_n câââstâ_n death_n de_fw-fr salut_fw-fr advent_fw-fr câââstâ_n bring_v we_o immortality_n and_o wrought_v resurrection_n for_o us._n here_o hades_n be_v enemy_n and_o opposite_a to_o the_o immortality_n and_o resurrection_n of_o man_n person_n can_v by_o any_o mean_n be_v hell_n for_o hell_n agree_v with_o immortality_n and_o resurrection_n &_o in_o hell_n shall_v be_v immortality_n and_o resurrection_n as_o well_o as_o in_o heaven_n but_o it_o be_v the_o common_a death_n and_o dissolution_n of_o our_o person_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o immortality_n and_o resurrection_n of_o they_o for_o as_o resurrection_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o restore_n and_o reunit_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o the_o body_n so_o the_o contrary_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o mere_o the_o dissolution_n and_o separation_n of_o the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n which_o be_v death_n and_o not_o hell_n now_o in_o this_o death_n say_v athanasius_n christ_n be_v hold_v till_o he_o spoil_v and_o conquer_v it_o thereby_o give_v we_o resurrection_n and_o immortality_n this_o can_v not_o be_v hell_n out_o of_o question_n hilarius_n very_o have_v this_o meaning_n also_o say_v 13â_n say_v hilar._n â_o psal_n 13â_n this_o be_v the_o law_n of_o humane_a necessity_n that_o their_o body_n go_v down_o to_o the_o grave_a their_o soul_n to_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a ad_fw-la inferos_fw-la which_o descent_n the_o lord_n do_v not_o refuse_v that_o he_o may_v prove_v himself_o in_o every_o point_n to_o be_v a_o true_a man_n his_o go_v to_o hell_n prove_v he_o not_o to_o be_v a_o true_a man_n but_o his_o soul_n to_o come_v under_o the_o power_n of_o death_n as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n to_o come_v to_o the_o grave_a servaââ_n ãâã_d koinoââââôpos_n âââem_fw-la morâââ_n servaââ_n that_o right_a well_o prove_v he_o in_o deed_n to_o have_v be_v a_o true_a man_n and_o whole_o in_o nature_n like_o all_o other_o man_n also_o this_o be_v indeed_o the_o law_n of_o humane_a necessity_n after_o the_o like_a phrase_n as_o a_o justin_n same_o âââgi_fw-la satisfaâââ_n forma_fw-la huâââ_n mortis_fw-la âââus_fw-la âag_n 157._o âefore_o ãâã_d death_n &_o ââes_n aâe_v uâââor_n the_o same_o b_o irenaeus_n and_o c_o tertullian_n also_o speak_v but_o not_o to_o go_v to_o hell_n now_o this_o death_n proper_o belong_v to_o the_o body_n of_o man_n d_o as_o it_o be_v leave_v without_o life_n also_o no_o less_o proper_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o whole_a person_n of_o man_n as_o it_o be_v dissolve_v and_o destroy_v thereby_o three_o by_o consequence_n it_o belong_v to_o both_o the_o dissolve_a part_n yea_o even_o to_o the_o immortal_a soul_n though_o bless_v not_o as_o it_o be_v in_o blessedness_n but_o as_o it_o remain_v 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christ_n go_v to_o limbus_n which_o opinion_n indeed_o man_n general_o incline_v unto_o though_o erroneous_o for_o many_o year_n yet_o that_o the_o ancient_n put_v this_o descend_v to_o hade_n meaning_n limbus_n or_o howsoever_o into_o the_o vulgar_a creed_n distinct_o from_o both_o the_o other_o foresay_a clause_n i_o believe_v not_o the_o contrary_n be_v prove_v afterwards_o as_o anon_o we_o shall_v see_v but_o to_o proceed_v here_o 413.414_o âârys_n hom._n civet_n &_o the_o ãâã_d bol_n tom._n in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 40._o âââasil_n in_o ãâã_d 48._o âââmbr_n de_fw-fr ãâã_d mort_fw-fr ãâã_d 10._o ââârom_n in_o ãâã_d 1â_n 14_o mcguffin_n in_o âââbol_n ãâã_d 413.414_o c_o chrysostom_n and_o d_o basill_n likewise_o with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o greek_n may_v be_v note_v how_o they_o yield_v hades_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o just_a man_n decease_v remain_v in_o joy_n also_o ambrose_n
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the_o apostle_n mention_v the_o 2.2_o the_o ephe._n 2.2_o air_n and_o that_o 6.12_o that_o cap._n 6.12_o on_o high_a as_o be_v the_o place_n of_o devil_n notwithstanding_o far_o be_v it_o from_o i_o to_o affirm_v that_o hell_n certain_o be_v not_o beneath_o yet_o your_o pretend_a scripture_n be_v mere_o force_v to_o prove_v it_o as_o in_o the_o chief_a i_o have_v show_v already_o in_o the_o rest_n it_o will_v appear_v likewise_o anon_o howbeit_o wheresoever_o hell_n indeed_o be_v though_o we_o do_v grant_v in_o it_o to_o be_v local_o in_o the_o earth_n beneath_o we_o yet_o every_o opposition_n between_o shammajim_n the_o heaven_n or_o sky_n and_o sheol_n do_v not_o signify_v the_o opposition_n between_o heaven_n and_o hel._n this_o you_o shall_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v shammajim_v thus_o place_v signify_v the_o sky_n not_o the_o very_a place_n of_o heavenly_a glory_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o god_n which_o in_o english_a we_o call_v heaven_n and_o sheol_n thus_o place_v 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of_o a_o cry_n come_v from_o babel_n and_o of_o great_a destruction_n from_o the_o chaldean_n etc._n etc._n where_o that_o which_o isay_n call_v sheol_n jeremy_n speak_v of_o the_o very_a same_o matter_n name_v destruction_n utter_v lay_v waist_n and_o overthrow_v of_o that_o city_n and_o state_n and_o so_o to_o come_v to_o our_o purpose_n heâraisme_n a_o very_a heâraisme_n do_v this_o be_v the_o very_a same_o phrase_n here_o in_o matthew_n touch_v capernaum_n thou_o capernaum_n which_o be_v lift_v up_o to_o the_o heaven_n shall_v be_v bring_v down_o to_o hades_n that_o be_v to_o destruction_n &_o to_o a_o inglorious_a not_o be_v any_o more_o in_o the_o world_n as_o before_o time_n it_o have_v be_v away_o ââdes_n destruction_n raze_v âaking_v away_o which_o also_o be_v confirm_v by_o that_o which_o he_o add_v present_o of_o sodom_n that_o if_o they_o have_v have_v the_o mean_n of_o repentance_n as_o capernaum_n have_v sodom_n may_v have_v remain_v a_o city_n to_o this_o day_n infer_v 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fear_v not_o his_o mere_a bodily_a death_n but_o it_o be_v the_o pain_n of_o the_o 2._o death_n which_o he_o feel_v and_o so_o fear_v but_o you_o say_v i_o the_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n of_o death_n which_o it_o please_v our_o saviour_n to_o feel_v in_o our_o nature_n 26._o âag_n 26._o come_v not_o for_o want_v of_o strength_n but_o of_o purpose_n to_o quench_v and_o abolish_v those_o affection_n in_o us._n i_o say_v it_o come_v from_o both_o as_o yourself_o also_o do_v avouch_v clean_o contrary_o in_o a_o other_o place_n k_n to_o die_v even_o in_o christ_n be_v infirmity_n 161._o âag_n 161._o though_o voluntary_a and_o general_o in_o another_o place_n 289._o âag_n 289._o l_o natural_a infirmity_n be_v common_a
ââbâ_n 5.7_o again_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o all_o this_o be_v voluntary_a in_o he_o and_o not_o feel_v indeed_o according_a to_o the_o outward_a semblance_n and_o as_o man_n behold_v he_o will_v iudgâ_n 22.43_o luc._n 22.43_o than_o belike_o you_o make_v he_o to_o have_v counterfeit_a which_o think_v god_n for_o bid_v shall_v ever_o come_v into_o any_o christian_n heart_n for_o no_o cause_n you_o say_v f_o i_o jest_n and_o iybe_v with_o the_o apostle_n word_n 302._o pag._n 302._o but_o i_o fear_v this_o be_v to_o jest_n and_o iybe_v in_o deed_n with_o the_o most_o dreadful_a and_o bitter_a sorrow_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o work_v for_o we_o our_o salvation_n and_o here_o why_o say_v you_o not_o aswell_o that_o his_o death_n and_o bloodshed_n on_o the_o cross_n show_v in_o he_o no_o pain_n nor_o infirmity_n but_o only_o that_o voluntary_o he_o make_v himself_o there_o the_o true_a priest_n and_z pe_z form_v the_o prefigure_v bloody_a and_o deadly_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o 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the_o terror_n of_o his_o own_o death_n 27._o âag_n 27._o and_o yet_o h_o a_o little_a before_o you_o open_o do_v confess_v and_o grant_v that_o his_o agony_n do_v rise_v from_o the_o fear_n of_o his_o death_n and_o that_o christ_n have_v far_o great_a cause_n than_o any_o of_o his_o member_n to_o fear_v it_o also_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o cite_n of_o cyrill_n pag._n 25._o and_o here_o why_o shall_v i_o hilary_n deny_v that_o christ_n bloody_a sweat_n come_v of_o infirmity_n 28._o âag_n 28._o or_o k_o austin_n that_o his_o fear_n and_o perturbation_n be_v of_o infirmity_n 25._o âag_n 25._o sure_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o though_o it_o be_v against_o the_o common_a course_n of_o our_o nature_n for_o any_o pain_n or_o fear_v to_o sweat_v blood_n yet_o the_o divine_a power_n with_o and_o through_o pain_n and_o fear_n may_v wring_v out_o of_o his_o body_n that_o trickle_a bloody_a sweat_n as_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o do_v by_o the_o word_n next_o before_o in_o the_o 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nec_fw-la infirmitas_fw-la quod_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la that_o prove_v the_o clean_a contrary_n for_o jdeo_n &_o infirmitas_fw-la quia_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la powââ_n 2_o therefore_o there_o waâ_n firmity_n ââcause_fw-mi thâââ_n be_v powââ_n for_o the_o work_n of_o his_o power_n in_o he_o argue_v the_o suffering_n of_o his_o infirmity_n the_o power_n of_o god_n be_v peâfited_v in_o infirmÃtie_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n therefore_o nature_n be_v herein_o oppress_v not_o exempt_v from_o pain_n thus_o these_o speak_v full_o for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o that_o here_o appear_v not_o christ_n infirmity_n only_o in_o suffer_v but_o his_o divine_a power_n also_o in_o punish_v and_o this_o i_o judge_v in_o deed_n to_o be_v their_o very_a meaning_n but_o those_o other_o mystical_a and_o figurative_a say_n of_o austin_n â_o pag_n 28._o â_o bede_n &_o bernard_n how_o shall_v we_o admit_v they_o without_o better_a warrant_n that_o 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like_a in_o his_o most_o we_o full_a complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n where_o he_o say_v my_o god_n my_o god_n 27._o math_n 27._o why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o you_o will_v ask_v i_o here_o what_o kind_n of_o forsake_v may_v this_o be_v i_o show_v you_o plain_o 6â_n plain_o treat_v 1_o â_o 6â_n 65_o 6â_n before_o if_o you_o have_v regard_v it_o namely_o that_o christ_n be_v also_o now_o yea_o special_o in_o the_o feel_n of_o infinite_a pain_n inflict_v on_o he_o sundry_a way_n 112.113_o ââw_v christ_n on_o ãâã_d cross_n be_v forsake_v of_o âââd_v see_v also_o âââg_a 112.113_o and_o that_o direct_o from_o god_n proper_a wrath_n for_o our_o sin_n he_o feel_v his_o whole_a humane_a nature_n for_o the_o time_n leave_v all_o comfortless_a and_o alone_a without_o any_o joyous_a assistance_n of_o his_o deity_n i_o say_v not_o that_o he_o want_v now_o all_o assistanc_fw-la of_o his_o deity_n for_o it_o sure_o will_v then_o have_v quite_o overwhelm_v he_o with_o this_o intolerable_a burden_n but_o his_o godhead_n as_o it_o be_v withdraw_v and_o hide_v itself_o from_o he_o for_o that_o season_n of_o his_o passion_n give_v he_o no_o sense_n nor_o feeling_n of_o ease_n comfort_n or_o joy_n but_o all_o the_o sense_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n as_o well_o in_o spirit_n as_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n that_o may_v be_v all_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o joy_n and_o comfort_n for_o the_o while_n be_v clean_o go_v and_o whole_o swallow_v up_o in_o that_o huge_a &_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n issue_v upon_o he_o out_o from_o the_o fierce_a wrath_n of_o god_n howbeit_o yet_o even_o now_o he_o want_v not_o sufficient_a assistance_n of_o the_o deity_n to_o sustain_v he_o in_o life_n herein_o as_o i_o say_v 16.17_o phil._n 2.7_o rom._n 8.32_o âeut_fw-fr 10_o 17._o ââc_n 16.17_o this_o be_v that_o extreme_a humiliation_n and_o exinanition_n of_o nature_n wherein_o â _o god_n spare_v not_o his_o son_n and_o wherein_o also_o christ_n spare_v not_o himself_o for_o he_o undertake_v all_o this_o most_o willing_o and_o yet_o be_v in_o it_o natural_o grieve_v and_o sorrow_v for_o it_o &_o at_o some_o moment_n be_v astonish_v with_o it_o sudden_o and_o natural_o desire_a ease_n and_o release_v from_o it_o this_o forsake_v or_o dereliction_n beseem_v the_o time_n place_n person_n and_o case_n of_o christ_n our_o ransompayer_n and_o purchaser_n of_o salvation_n with_o the_o price_n of_o his_o own_o most_o direful_a pain_n âââisse_n pag._n 24._o &c_n &c_n âââr_v 6._o exposition_n of_o christ_n conââaint_v be_v all_o âââisse_n not_o any_o other_o far_o fetch_v or_o hardly_o apply_v or_o strange_o devise_v by_o the_o brain_n of_o man_n as_o in_o truth_n all_o those_o other_o sense_n hereof_o be_v which_o you_o rather_o embrace_v
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this_o then_o manefest_o be_v the_o only_a proper_a and_o principal_a cause_n of_o christ_n most_o dreadful_a agony_n and_o perplexity_n in_o his_o passion_n even_o excessive_a pain_n and_o the_o entire_a want_n of_o feel_v of_o god_n comfort_n 17._o pag._n 17._o and_o nothing_o else_o how_o hard_o soever_o b_o you_o make_v it_o i_o c_o know_v not_o why_o to_o show_v the_o proper_a &_o principal_a cause_n thereof_o 72._o treat_n 1._o pag._n 72._o and_o here_o we_o will_v remember_v again_o what_o be_v teach_v by_o authority_n in_o england_n the_o rather_o for_o that_o you_o take_v on_o as_o a_o man_n impatient_a because_o i_o do_v affirm_v that_o our_o doctrine_n not_o you_o have_v the_o public_a authority_n for_o it_o 334._o pag._n 334._o you_o do_v call_v it_o a_o egregious_o a_o insolent_a and_o impudent_a speech_n well_o become_v a_o alehouse_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o in_o the_o very_a next_o ââ_o next_o pag._n ââ_o page_n in_o plain_a term_n you_o grant_v the_o same_o to_o be_v 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that_o for_o the_o reason_n above_o note_v neither_o here_o do_v this_o circumstance_n limit_v it_o to_o the_o grave_a only_o because_o it_o be_v say_v sheol_n confess_v not_o thou_o for_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o zekiah_n mean_v not_o absolute_o that_o there_o be_v no_o praise_v of_o god_n in_o sheol_n but_o only_o he_o understand_v that_o which_o c_o he_o so_o great_o desire_v 84.1_o âhich_v be_v ytââinary_a great_a âre_n of_o the_o âlly_a geneây_n psal_n 42._o &_o 84.1_o the_o outward_a frequent_v of_o the_o temple_n the_o holy_a ceremony_n and_o sacrifice_n &_o join_v to_o the_o visible_a congregation_n and_o publish_v of_o god_n goodness_n to_o other_o which_o he_o express_v immediate_o to_o be_v that_o praise_n of_o god_n that_o he_o mean_v &_o can_v be_v in_o sheol_n by_o knit_v close_o to_o the_o former_a these_o word_n do_v the_o live_n 38.19_o âsa_fw-la 38.19_o the_o live_n he_o shall_v confess_v thou_o as_o i_o do_v this_o day_n the_o father_n to_o the_o child_n 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misheol_n the_o greek_a have_v eke_o thanátou_v from_o death_n reckon_v death_n and_o sheol_n to_o be_v all_o one_o so_o in_o ecclesiastes_n eccle._n ecclesiastes_n eccle._n sheol_n and_o veâs_fw-fr and_o veâs_fw-fr hammethim_n the_o dead_a be_v in_o effect_n all_o one_o and_o the_o very_a same_o do_v esai_n call_v 3â_n call_v isa_n 3â_n shagnare_fw-la sheol_n the_o gate_n of_o sheol_n which_o the_o 107.18_o the_o psa_fw-la 9_o â_o 107.18_o psalm_n and_o 3â_n and_o job._n 3â_n job_n do_v call_v shagnare_fw-la mave_v the_o gate_n of_o death_n in_o the_o 27â_n the_o pâo._n 3â_n and_o 27â_n proverbes_n he_o mean_v death_n not_o hell_n nor_o the_o grave_a strict_o take_v where_o by_o a_o excellency_n the_o greediness_n of_o it_o be_v note_v for_o be_v never_o satisfy_v for_o death_n general_o crave_v more_o than_o either_o hell_n or_o the_o grave_a strict_o take_v do_v so_o likewise_o abakuk_n couple_v they_o together_o as_o be_v in_o effect_n alone_o abaâ_n alone_o abaâ_n like_a sheoll_n and_o death_n it_o will_v not_o be_v satisfy_v thus_o also_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o that_o which_o â_o which_o psal_n â_o david_n rejoice_v for_o the_o very_a same_o in_o effect_n â_o effect_n psal_n â_o christ_n here_o rejoice_v for_o only_o with_o this_o difference_n david_n rejoice_v that_o god_n have_v deliver_v his_o soul_n from_o death_n they_o when_o he_o be_v likely_a to_o have_v dye_v christ_n rejoice_v because_o god_n will_v deliver_v his_o soul_n from_o the_o condition_n of_o death_n sheol_n after_o he_o be_v in_o it_o &_o speedy_o even_o before_o his_o flesh_n shall_v corrupt_v this_o may_v be_v evident_o show_v in_o infinite_a place_n mo_z but_o that_o it_o be_v utter_o needle_n in_o this_o
sense_n it_o be_v that_o the_o reprobate_n and_o the_o elect_a after_o death_n be_v say_v to_o be_v together_o 28.19_o âân_fw-la 28.19_o a_o to_o morrow_n thou_o &_o thy_o son_n shall_v be_v with_o we_o say_v the_o suppose_a samuel_n to_o saul_n not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o positive_a thing_n common_a to_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobate_n after_o death_n which_o b_o you_o observe_v well_o 209._o ââg_v 396._o ãâã_d simpââli_n ââqaest_a 3._o ââg_n 209._o but_o only_a that_o they_o be_v alike_o dead_a and_o alike_o remain_v in_o death_n yet_o i_o say_v they_o be_v not_o like_o any_o further_a this_o c_o aust_n very_o well_o show_v who_o you_o do_v bring_v say_v he_o mortuus_fw-la mortem_fw-la vivo_fw-la proenuntiabat_fw-la hadea_n father_n ãâã_d it_o i_o our_o ãâã_d of_o hadea_n that_o be_v be_v dead_a he_o foreshow_v death_n to_o he_o that_o yet_o live_v so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o condition_n of_o death_n both_o to_o saul_n and_o samuel_n but_o not_o the_o same_o fruition_n of_o happiness_n thus_o the_o old_a latin_a translator_n use_v infernum_fw-la as_o common_o for_o hades_n so_o sometime_o for_o e_fw-la thanatos_n death_n glyph_n âct_n 2.24_o â_o cor._n 15.55_o â_o act._n 2.24_o âpiph_n in_o âânacephal_a ãâã_d anchor_n âustin_a in_o glyph_n and_o sometime_o f_o mors_fw-la death_n for_o hades_n epiphanius_n read_v the_o g_o text_n indifferent_o h_o thanátou_n or_o i_fw-it hadou_n as_o reckon_v they_o in_o effect_n all_o one_o justin_n martyr_n long_o before_o say_v k_n christ_n a_o little_a before_o his_o death_n note_v the_o folly_n of_o those_o man_n tôn_o nomizónton_a i_o êinai_fw-fr auton_n christon_n all_o hegonménon_fw-fr thanatôsein_fw-fr auton_n kai_o hó_n koinon_fw-la ánthropon_n en_fw-fr hadou_fw-fr menein_fw-fr that_o think_v he_o not_o to_o be_v christ_n but_o that_o he_o shall_v die_v and_o remain_v in_o hades_n as_o a_o common_a man_n he_o mean_v not_o here_o as_o a_o wicked_a man_n in_o hell_n but_o as_o any_o common_a man_n whether_o 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to_o be_v all_o one_o with_o death_n 15.55_o âib_fw-la 5.13.3.38_o â_o cor._n 15.55_o or_o the_o dominion_n of_o death_n where_o he_o read_v the_o text_n thus_o absorpta_fw-la est_fw-la mors_fw-la in_o victoriâ_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la mors_fw-la aculeus_fw-la tuus_fw-la ubi_fw-la est_fw-la o_fw-la mors_fw-la victoria_fw-la tua_fw-la ââdes_n â_o greek_a ââdes_n death_n be_v swallow_v up_o in_o victory_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o sting_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o victory_n and_o he_o add_v haec_fw-la autem_fw-la iustè_fw-la dicentur_fw-la tunc_fw-la etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n shall_v true_o be_v speak_v then_o when_o this_o mortal_a and_o corruptible_a flesh_n about_o which_o death_n be_v and_o which_o be_v hold_v down_o by_o a_o certain_a dominion_n of_o death_n arise_v up_o into_o life_n shall_v put_v on_o incorruption_n and_o immortality_n then_o very_o shall_v death_n be_v overcome_v when_o the_o flesh_n which_o be_v hold_v by_o it_o shall_v come_v forth_o out_o of_o the_o 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