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A11271 A goodly dysputacion betwene a christen shomaker, and a popysshe parson with two other parsones more, done within the famous citie of Norembourgh. Translated out of [the] Germayne tongue into Englysshe. By Anthony Scoloker. Sachs, Hans, 1494-1576.; Scoloker, Anthony, fl. 1548. 1548 (1548) STC 21537.7; ESTC S117736 15,831 48

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and Imagynacyons and admonysshed and warned vs therof Secondarely / he hath declared vs by scripture / that we shulde confesse that we are all the bondmen of synne Thyrdely / that Chryst alone is our sauyour and redemer of which two points the Rom. 5. whole scripture is full wherby we learne 1. Cor. 1. to putt oure truste / hope and sayth onelye in Christe which is a true and godly worke to saluacion as Christ sayth Ioan. 6 And Christ sayth Mat. 5. Let your lyght Iohan. 11. braste oute / and so shyne before the people / Math. 5. that they seing your good workes maye praise the father which is in heauen Parson Nedeth no worke therto Shomaker Paule sayth ▪ ad Rom. 5. we hold it therfore Roma 5. that man is onelye made right wes through fayth without the workes to the Romaynes in the last chapter The Rom. vlt. tyghtuous shall lyue by fayth Parson Iames sayth in his 2. chap. Fayth with out Iacob 2 ●ood workes is dead Shomaker A true Christen fayth can neuer be Idell but bryngeth alwayes good workes and frutes forth For Chryst sayth / A good tree an brynge forth no euell frute Math. 7. but such good workes ought not to be done for to meryte or deserue heauen therby / for Chryst hath merited and deserued it for vs neyther for feare and to a voyde the paynes of hell for Chryst hath delyueryd vs therof neyther for honour for all honour sh●lbe geuen onely vnto God as it is writen But ye shall do them for Math. 4. loue for a thankes geuyng to God and to the helpe and profyt of your neyghbour parson If Luther be so ryghtuous and so good a doctour as you name hī to be how cha●tet● it then that so fewe greate lords do cleaue and styck vnto his doctryne Saue onely a heape of rude and vnlearned people Shomaker Pylate Herode Cayphas nor Annas ●leued not to Chryst nor yet the pharizees but the common people Therfore Christ reioyced in spirite ād sayd Father I thanke you that ye haue hydden these Luke 10. thynges from the wyse of the world haue opened it to the lytle flocke Parson What I saye the common people cleane least of all to Luther and hys doctrine Shomaker Your dulheaded and folyshe preachers are cause of that / whych without any scripture crye and call he is an heretyke / he is an heretike But Chryste hath declared Math. 4. to the litell flocke Go thoroughe the narrowe gate for the gate is wyde and the way is broade whyche leadeth to dampnation and ther are many which walke in it And ther are many called and fewe electe Math. 22. Parson Men do vse to speake suche wordes in tauernes vpon the market and elles wher lyke fooles whych ought not to be spokē in suche places Shomaker Christ sayeth / what I saye to you in secret that shall ye preache vppon the house Math. 10 toppes parson If I shulde saye trueth I holde Luther for the greateste heretyke that euer was sence Arrius Tyme and thou arte hys folower and ther is no good in you nether commeth theyr any good frō you / vnderstandeste thou that The same tytell do I gyue both to Luther and to the● Shomaker Veryly you haue hitte the prycke / fo● theyr is no man good but God only Fo● oure nature is whole and all corrupte ●● Math. 14. vs as it is wrytten Genes 8. The hart● of man is inclyned to euell / euen from hy● Gene. 8. youthe / whych dayly muste be mortifyed wyth the crosse leaste it myght hinder th● spirite For nature ceaseth not to seke that thynge wherunto it is inclined all though the spyryte be made ryghtuous through● fayth For it is wrytten Prouer. 24. The ryghtuous falleth seuen tymes ●● the daye Therfore do we daily praye Forgiue Prou. 24. vs our trespaces Math. 6. and paule to the Rom. 7. The good which I wolde Math. 6. I do not / and the euell whiche I hate I Rom. 7. do ād after that speaketh he O miserable man / who shall delyuer me from the body of death Therwyth declareth he that w● are synners euen vnto death But syr Do ruine / yf thou arte wyth out Synne caste the fyrst stone vppon vs. Parson Ye are all vn proffitable people ye can prate very well / I truste ye shal shortly be Iohan. 8. knocked vppon your boanes for I perceaue there is none other remedye shomaker What wolde you be in hande with the swerde that apperteyneth not to the spyritual●●e Parson Hath not Christ Luce. 22. ordeyned two swerdes one spirituall and an other temporall shomaker Chryst did forbydde Peter Math. 26 and sayd he that striketh with the swerd● Math. 26. shall perysh with the swerde parson It helpeth not by other meanes therfore must it be holpen / wyth a quicke punishment for heresy hath in a maner taken the vpperhande therfore it is hygh tyme to stryke in the flocke Shomaker Oh do not so but rather follow the cōsell of Gamaliel / Actum in the 5. chapter If the ddctryne be of God ye can not for Actes 5. bydde nor defend it and if it be of menne then shall it fall without any swerde / to the intent ye he not takē as one that wyll fyght agaynst God parson Ther shall come nothyng elles therof for this shal be the ende Shomaker Nowe O lord of heauen thy wyll be fulfylled Math 6. The Discyple is not aboue hys master H●ve the●● persecuted Iohan. 15. me they shal persecute you also / a●d h●ppy Luke 6. are ys when ye are hated / dysdayned and dispysed for my names sake parson Some shall then holde their peace whych nowe do call and roare a lowde Shomaker He that confesseth me before the world him wyll I knowledge and confesse before my heauenly father Parson Ye shall be handeled and serued lyke as heretikes ought to be serued shomaker Chryst sayth feare not thē whych may Math. 10. destroy the body only but feare him which may destroy both body and soule O lorde God howe good is it to dye for thy names sake parson It were euen your iust rewarde / an heretyke after the third admonicion and warning ought to be put to death shomaker But yow ought fyrste to proue or defyne vs to be heretikes wyth the holy scripture parson That may we full easely ●o Shomaker Then shall God require our bloude at youre hands / because you haue suffered vs and the pore shepe of Chryst to haue bene thus long seduced and ledde out-of the right way And that you haue not resysted and disputed with so many preachers of this learning Parson It shal shortly come to passe we haue taken our aduise and counsell vppon the matter Shomaker Yea is that true indede I perceaue ye do fulfyll the sayeng of Mat. And the Phariz●es went and