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A19713 Pasquine in a traunce a Christian and learned dialogue (contayning wonderfull and most strange newes out of heauen, purgatorie, and hell) wherein besydes Christes truth playnely set forth, ye shall also finde a numbre of pleasaunt hystories, discouering all the crafty conueyaunces of Antechrist. Whereunto are added certayne questions then put forth by Pasquine, to haue bene disputed in the Councell of Trent. Turned but lately out of the Italian into this tongue, by W.P. Seene allowed [sic] according to the order appointed in the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions.; Pasquillus ecstaticus. English Curione, Celio Secondo, 1503-1569.; Page, William, fl. 1566.; Painter, William, 1540?-1594, attributed name.; Phiston, William, attributed name. 1566 (1566) STC 6130; ESTC S109155 162,493 234

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these are some for one wordely respecte and some for an other so ioyned in league with this wicked beast that they haue more regarde to Antechrist than to Christ. In Christes cause there is not one that will once speake a worde doubting least he shoulde be called a Lutherian but for Antechristes cause ech man will discouer himselfe what he is against suche as defend Christ calling them Herctiques and persecuting thē euen to the death Maruell not therefore if they also be condempned by their head whome they haue persecuted in his members Marforius Canst thou not tell me anye one sundry sorte of torments that these great princes had different from the other Yea that I can thou knowest that they will still aboue al other things be honored magnified flattered and fedde with the smoke of clawing talke In Hel therfore they are a good parte of the tyme hanged vp in the smoke of that cursed brimstone Marforius What are not the Popes serued with the same sause Pasquine More they than the other Marforius Whom diddest thou sée particularly Talke to me a little of some one namely among the rest Pasquine Herein will I doe not after thyne but after Plato his minde who willeth that when a man commeth to particularities he ought to make a staye for if I woulde come to those particularly there shoulde be fewe alyue but they woulde banishe me Marforius Why and are men for saying the truth banished by Princes and great men Pasquine Yea and with the worst kinde of banishment that they can and most of all those that most speake the truth for they are not content to banish them out of their countreys that confesse the way of Christ which onely is true but they banishe them out of the worlde Marforius Let them therefore remayne with the Diuell sith they are there already and being such maner of men as they be But tell me how diddest thou know them being confusely scattered among other and being naked as thou hast sayde before thou couldest neyther knowe them by their apparell nor yet bicause they were not placed in order Pasquine I knewe them by their sinnes the which as I tolde thée are al playnely séene In them a man might sée the sinnes of great men as for crample neuer to forgiue iniuries receyued to worke reuenge for euery trifle to be occasion of the death of numbers of their people to fulfill their appetite to defile their Uassals wyues to punishe the good to rewarde the euill to dispise vertue to fauoure vice and suche other small pieuish faultes and beside that they were all castin the téeth by the Diuelles with these wordes among other The man that vvas in honor hath not thankfullye receyued the same but vvas as beastes vvithoute vnderstanding beholde his glorye commeth not dovvne vvith him hyther belovve Marforius This was the way to make them to be knowen to thée for great men generally but howe didst thou knowe them one from an other particulerlye Pasquine I knewe them by the selfe same token that I tolde thée for as much as their sinnes are discouered and the names of euery one of them and this is done fo their greater torment for what matter were it if sinnes were séene it were not knowen whose sinnes they were I tell thée they shewe the filthinesse of their nakednesse and euery one is knowē what he is Marforius The Fryers therefore the Nunnes the lay Sisters and all the other Ipocrites must nedes be full of sorrowe séeing so manye and so grieuous of their abhominable wickednesse discouered which in this worlde they haue had so great care to kepe close Pasquine Thou mayest be sure of that Marforius Saint Benets Monks should there find thē selues much deceyued in that they obeyed their holye Abbot in that godly saying Sion caste tamen cautè Pasquine They are them selues deceyued and all other that haue sayd that a faulte closely done is halfe pardoned Marforius Thou shouldst me thinke therfore sée many goodly things of Fryers and of their louers Pasquine Nay I sawe things that were so filthy that they were to shamefull euen in very Hell There mightest thou haue sene howe Fryers medled with Nunnes and laye sisters and with worsse thou mightest haue sene the murthering of yong babes and bycause their dishonesties should not be discoured y ● mightest haue sene that they were cast into the Iakeses Thou mightest there haue sene also one Fryer teach one woman the way howe she shoulde not conceyue with child an other Fryer taught an other woman the way to destroy the child in hir body an other Fryer taught an other woman the way to poyson hir husbande This Fryer gaue to his woman some of hys holye Oyle to worke inchauntmentes to those of the house One Fryer gaue to hys Leman one of hys consecrate Hostes for the same purpose An other kylled a whole householde wyth gyuing them things to eate that shoulde make them sléepe bycause he would not be sene go into the house to play y ● knaue with the good wyfe One false priest fayned that our Lady had wrought miracles bycause there might be some offerings brought to hir by the foolishe ignorant people An other persecuted the Christians and preached against the truth bycause he woulde be made a Byshop or a Cardinall An other false knaue in confession caused a simple foolishe woman to giue him hir money in keping and afterwarde denyed it to hir An other Frier sat tooting in the bosome of a simple yong Maid whom hir foolish mother had brought to be shriuen that she might begin to learne some of the friers knauery An other in confession persuaded him that was sicke peraduenture more in his soule than in hys body to leaue his goodes vnto their Monasteries depriuing therof the true and lawfull heyres This good sonne wished his owne fathers death that he mighte do after his owne minde That Nephew killed maister Parson his vncle the soner to succéede him in the benefice that afterwarde he must leaue vnto him That woman defiled hir husbandes bed and this good man his wyues That wicked and naughty seruaunt betrayed his mayster to whom he oughte by Gods commaūdement to be obedient and faithful Thou mightest there haue sene Simonies Sodomies Ipocrisies Robberies Scismes Apostasies and those more in the polleshorne Prelates than in al y ● other Then saw I in dyuers parts dyuers signes of victorye There was to be séene grauen the glorious cognisaunce of the Chanon of Turney who after his death lefte a booke wherein he had noted the name and house of two hundreth womē of the chiefest of that City whom he had enioyed at his pleasure There was also to be sene how a false théefe a Fryer in Friseland had put into the heades of the foolish women this opinion that they must giue to the Church the tenth of all things and euen in lyke
an hundreth yeres vnlesse the body were buried Pasquine That was without comparison lesse harme than that of our Priestes who herevpon haue founded a lying and dampnable Purgatory and haue made the foolysh people beleue that not he that putteth a single penny in the mouth of the dead man but who so euer putteth not a great gubbe of money into their pursses or leaueth not to them good possessions can not so sone be delyuered from the paynes of that Purgatory of theirs Marforius Oh thou canst now tel me certaine newes of this purgatory if it be there thou must nedes haue sene it Pasquine I will fully declare vnto thée the truth and that thou mayst the better beleue me I will alleage so many reasons authorities of y ● scripture that thou shalt be assured that it is as I shall tell thée But first I will rehearse vnto thée péece by péece that little that yet remaineth for me to tell We entred in at that gate and walked along by that broade way being still among a greate multitude of people that passed thitherward and hearing still more and more those dolorous and lamentable outeryes all those people went with great hast being dryuen by their cruell destinye and forthwith were they all seuerallye put to dyuers punishments and torments as afterward I shall shewe thée But I that was not come thither to suffer any of those punishments but to learne thinges by the declaring whereof afterwarde I might cause that other should not indure them went on faire and softly cōsidering eche things and prying in euery corner to sée where Purgatory was And I sawe on the one syde a huge Lake that with the lower ende of it touched the tormenting places where the dampned soules be wherof when I had much maruelled I demaūded the Angell what it might meane he aunswered me that the Purgatory which the priestes had made began at the vpper ende of that Lake and reached vnto those tormenting places which were deuided from Purgatorye but with a thinne wall And when Neptune let droppe his waters that before I tolde thée of downe into this place this Lake was then made which for all that did not fill vppe all Purgatory but that part which ioyned to those tormenting places remayned set on fire and at the same verye tyme the fire tooke holde on eche side of the wall and burnt it quite and so was it made all one place with Hell and this parte that remayneth yet on fire is for them that beleue in Purgatory and the other that was quenched altogether by Neptunes waters is for them that beleue not in it Marforius All that thou talkest I hold as thinges true yet notwithstanding if I shoulde at anye tyme proue vnto other the vanity and falshoode of this deuyse with other testimonies than thine owne only I pray thée to alleage me also those of the scripture together with them all those reasons that not long agoe thou saydest thou wouldest bring forth Pasquine I will with al my hart stande stil and giue good eare Marforius I will giue good eare say on hardly Pasquine By the worde of God thou shalt neuer finde other Purgatory than the bloud of Iesus Christ thorowe the which onely all sinnes are perfectly pardoned and therefore do they committe grieuous sinne that say there is other Purgatory than this and it is a blasphemous and Diuelishe fondnesse of them that beleue it And that thou mayst know howe false thys diuelishe deuise is I will first alleage certaine places of the scripture that goe against it in Saint Mathew and Saint Marke thus we reade He that beleueth and is baptised shall be ●aued and he that beleueth not shall be dampned By the whiche wordes thou mayst perceiue that saluatiō is giuē vs by fayth and dampnation for lack of fayth Therefore eyther we dye in fayth or without fayth if we dye in fayth we are saued for it is written He that beleueth shal be saued If we dye without fayth we are dampned for it is written He that beleueth not shall be dampned Besydes this Saint Iohn sayth So God loued the vvorlde that he gaue his onely begotten Sonne to the ende that al that beleue in him should not perish but haue lyfe euerlasting For God hath not sent hys sonne into the vvorlde to condemne the vvorlde but that the vvorlde might be saued by him he that beleueth in him shal not be condemned and he that beleueth not is condemned already bycause he beleueth not in the name of the onely Sonne of God Thou séest that the father hath giuen vs his sonne to the ende that he that beleueth in him should haue euerlasting lyfe and that euerlasting lyfe followeth him that beleueth What thinkest thou now that this euerlasting life is Marforius I thinke it is heauē out of doubt Pasquine Thou sayest well but if the beleuer be iudged to go to Purgatory what a heauen is this doest thou not sée how this is contrary to the word of God Moreouer y ● word being saued by Christ nedes must it be that he which beleueth haue a life without pain and he that beleueth in him is not iudged But if he wente to Purgatory he shoulde be iudged to go thyther the which can not be to him that beleueth For Saint Paule sayth that there is no condempnation to him that beleueth in Iesus Christ. And Christ hym selfe sayth Verely verely I say vnto you he that heareth my vvordes and beleueth on him that sent me hath euerlasting lyfe and shall not come vnto dampnation but is escaped from death to lyfe But if any man wēt into Purgatory séest thou not that he shuld not haue euerlasting lyfe that is to say heauen but y ● he should be condempned and that he should not passe from death to lyfe the whiche is cleane contrary to Christs owne saying Marforius What this is not condempnation Pasquine Nay the traditions of these men saye manifestlye that the soule for euerye deadely sinne is iudged to abyde seauen yeares in the fire of Purgatory the whiche is a most horrible lye for in all the holye scripture is not founde one onelye iote spoken of seauen yeares nor of no suche foolyshe brabling nay rather is the contrary found in y ● whole scripture as in the Parable of the rych man and poore Lazarus eche of them dyeth the one is buryed in hel and the other is caryed into Abrahams bosome without touching any whit of the paynes of Purgatorye And the theefe that was crucified with Christ was neuer in Purgatory to doe penance for his sinnes and yet Christ sayde vnto him This day shalt thou be vvith me in Paradise If there were any suche false Purgatory it must nedes be that some mentiō must be made of it in these places of the scripture But there is none other purgation than the bloud of Christ