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A00358 A treatise perswadynge a man patientlye to suffre the deth of his frende; De morte declamatio. English Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536. 1531 (1531) STC 10476.3; ESTC S2113 11,664 42

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vs Howe great a pleasure hast thou berafte and taken from vs Howe sone hast thou taken from vs cōtrary to our opinion this so excellēt a thīg Myght nat he of very ryghte to our so vnkynde complayntes answere on this wyse Haue I this rewarde for my gentyll and courtoys dede Remembre ye nothynge saue only that that ye haue forgone the moste faire tabull Haue ye forgotte that I of myn owne good wyll and frelye lente it you And that ye haue nowe so longe whyle of my gentylnes and sufferaunce fedde your eies and delited your mynde It was of my liberalite and fredome that I lēte it you and nowe whan I require it agayne I do but ryght perdie ye haue had by me some aduauntage ye loste nothyng saue that throughe your foly ye femed that thing to be your owne that was but lente you And so ye esteme it to be loste that is restored to the owner againe But the more precious and delectable that the thynge was that I lente and let you haue at your pleasure the more a great deale ye oughte to haue thanked me Nor ye oughte nat to thynke hit to be to sone required againe the which with out any iniurye or wronge myghte haue bene kepte from you If this reasō can nat be proued false by no meane of argumentation thā thynke howe moche more iustly Nature with suche maner wordꝭ might reproue bothe our lamentation and sorowfull complaynynges And vndoubted by these maner of reasons our sorowe oughte to be swaged yea if it were so that a man were vtterly extincte by deth and there remayned nothynge of vs after the buriall Now if we at the leste gyue credēce to it wherof Socrates in Plato doubted nothynge at all that is to witte the very man to be the soule this body to be nothynge els but the pipe or lyttell house of the soule Or els to say trouthe it may be called the buriall or prison of the soule and whan it escapeth out therof than at the laste it cometh to libertie to lyue moche more welthyly than it dyd be fore wherfore than shuld we sorowfully blame deth seinge that he that dieth dothe nat perisshe but than he semethe rather to be borne And we ought to reioyce in the soule whiche we can nat with our eies decerne as moche and none other wyse than we be wont to reioyce and take pleasure in our frendes that bene absent And I doubte whether is more delectable and reioysyng to vs whan they bene present or els whan they ben absent for so moche as the corporall lyuyng to gether is wonte to mynyster to vs matter of displeasure and the moche beinge in company to gether dothe some what abate the ioyfulnesse of frendshyp If ye desyre an example of this thynge be nat the apostels a sufficient argument the whiche than began to take very fruition in Christ and truely to loue hym after the corporal presence was taken from them On the same wyse is the frēdshyppe of them that be good the whiche stedfastly perseuer in couplynge and knyttynge to gether of the myndes and nat of the bodies And there is no violence no space of tyme nor no distaunce of places that can seuer or diuide the couplyng of myndes So that me thynke hit a very childisshe poynt to thynke that a frende were clene lost and gone so sone as he were out of sighte You may as ofte as ye wyll haue your sonne presente both in your thoughte in your wordes And he on the other side remēbreth you perceiueth the tender affectiōs of your mynde ye and other whyle in your slepe both your soules ēbrace eche other talke to gether of some secrete thīges what thynge letteth that ye may nat euen very nowe imagin to lyue with hym with whom soone after ye are in poynte to lyue I pray you how briefe shorte is all the holle tyme that we lyue here Hitherto haue I vsed the remedies the whiche I myghte well vse if I had to do with a paynym Nowe let vs brieffely cōsider what godlynes christen faith ought to require of vs. Fyrst and formost if it were so that deth were a thynge moste miserable yet it behoueth vs to take it in good worth seinge that ther is none other remedye And more ouer if dethe shulde clene extinguishe man that nothynge after shulde remayne yet we shulde there with be contente for as moche as hit makethe an ende of many calamities and greffes whiche we suffre in this lyfe But seinge that dethe delyuereth the soule beinge of etheriall begynnyng out of the dongion of the ponderous beuy body in a maner we oughte to reioyce and be gladde of them that be departed hence out of this wretched worlde and that they be retourned home agayne to that welthye libertie from whēce they came Nowe than cōside ryng that deth without any doubte conueyeth the good deuoute soules out of the stormes of this troublous lyfe vnto the porte or hauen of lyfe perdurable and that nat so moche as a here of a mans heed shall perisshe for the bodies also at length shal be called to enioye the same lyfe euerlastyng I prey you whether ought we to mourne and wepe or els to be gladde and reioyce in hym whom dethe in due tyme taketh out of this moste troublous see of the lyfe and carieth hym in to that quiete sure restynge place of euerlastynge lyfe Go to nowe a littell while and lay to gether the foule enormities the painful labours and the perils and daungers of this lyfe if it may be called a lyfe And on the other syde reken caste what cōmodities and pleasures of that other lyfe are all redy prepared for the godly creatures that be plucked hence away And than ye shall sone perceiue that no man can do more vnrightouslye than he the whiche lamentably bewayleth that high goodnes vnto the whiche only we be both borne and ordayned euen as thoughe it were a right great and greuous harme Ye crie out bicause ye be lefte comfortles alone without childrē whan ye haue begotte a sōne to inhabite heuen the holy remembraunce of whom as it were of a diuine thynge ye maye reuerence the whiche aboue in beuē beinge carefull for you may greatly forther the prosperous successe of your busines here For he is nother ignorant of mortall folkes busines nor hath nat forgone with the bodye the lowlye reuerence and tender loue whiche he was wōte to bere to you his father No doubt he lyueth beleue me he lyueth and perauenture is present with vs and hereth and perceiueth this our communication and laugheth and damneth this our lamētation And if the grossenes of our bodies letted nat ꝑchance we shulde here hym blaming vs for our wepyng with these maner of wordes what do ye wyll ye abridge your dayes and finishe your olde age with this vnprofitable ye I may well say pyuisshe lamentation
wherfore do you with so vniuste com playntes accuse and blame destenyefortune and dethe Haue you enuye at me bicause I am delyuered from the yuels of that lyfe am brought to this felicitie that I am in But be hit that your fatherly goodnes and pure amitie dothe nat enuye me Yet what other thynge meaneth this sorowfull complaynyng Thynke you this worthye to be lamented that I am deducte and brought from thraldome to libertie from peyne and care to pleasure felicitie from darkenes vnto lighte from perill and daunger vnto sure saftie from deth vnto lyfe from sickenessis and disseases vnto im mortalitie from so many yuels to so high goodnes from thynges caduke and transitorie to the euerlastynge fro thinges erthly to celestiall and finally from the corrupte and vnclene company of all people to the felowshyp of angels Tell me I prey you for the great loue and kyndnes that ye beare me If it laye in your power to releue me agayne wolde ye releue me Than what offence haue I done to deserue so great hatred of you If ye wolde nat reliue me agayne than for what purpose seruen all these lamētatiōs the which as I haue said are nat only vnprofitable but also vn godly But ne were it so that immortalite had a while agone clene depued me of all sorowe I wolde lyke wyse with wepyng teares bewayle your so rowfull mourning sore haue rewed vpon thilke grosse darke cloudines of your mynde But ye say that you on your part wepe make lamētatiō For soth therin ye do nat like louers but like vnto thē that haue a respecte to them selfewarde that wyll to others discōmodite se to their own bu sines Nowe go to tell me what losse is it that ye susteine by my deth Is it bicause ye can nat haue me in your sight Pardie ye may neuer the lasse at your owne pleasure remembre me the meane tyme ye and so moche the more welthyly in howe moche I am in sure saftie For loke that ye esteme me nowe delyuered frō all the yuels what so euer they be that maye bechaunce a mortall man in his lyfe of whiche your longe robustous lyfe for a great parte hath experience And though that I be nat with you with lowly obeisāce to do you seruice yet may I be a sure an effectuall aduocate for you before the high maiestie of god And finally howe small a thynge is hit that deuideth our conuersation familiaritie Nowe loke that you so endeuour your selfe that whan ye haue well and vertuouslye passed the course of your lyfe that ye maye than at the houre of dethe be founde worthy to be cōueyed hither If that your sonne I saye shulde saye these wordes to vs myghte we nat well be ashamed thus to lament and mourne as we do with these maner of reasons I am wonte to ease the greffe of myn owne mynde of the whiche I wolde that you shulde be part taker nat all only that ye haue any great nede of those remedies but I demed it agreable that ye shulde be partaker of my cōsolation of whose sorowe I was partiner But briefly to conclude all that hath ben at length reasoned by this maner meane ye shall aswage the smartynge sorowe of your mynde My sōne is deed ye begotte a mortall creature I haue loste a great iewell ye haue yelded hit agayne to hym that frelye gaue hit you It is a right greuous thing to be thus destitude It shulde be the lighter borne that may be redressed by some mene He hath lefte me his father alone cōfortles what dothe it auayle to wepe and wayle for that that can nat be remedied or why mourne you for that the whiche chaunceth to so manye thousandes as well as to you Alas I can nat chose but wepe for the deth of my sonne ye but he that diethe well dothe in no wyse perysshe But he died to sone He that diethe well diethe nat to sone He dyed longe before his daye was come There is no man that hath a daye certayne appointed vnto hym He decessed in his flourynge youthe It is than best to dye whan to lyue it is moste swete He died a very yonge man So is he withdrawen from the mo yuels and troubuls of this lyfe I haue loste the beste childe that any man coude haue Be gladde that ye had suche one He departed out of this worlde an innocēt No deth shulde be more desired and lesse bewayled Ye but it is nat lefull for me the meane whyle to haue fruition with my sonne Yes in your mynde you may and within shorte space you and he to gether bodye and soule shall ioye and take pleasure If ye knowe any better remedies than these of gentylnes let me here them if ye do nat than vse these with me And thus fare ye wel which your sōne also wold ye shuld Thomas Berthelet regius impressor excudebat Cum priuilegio