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A91395 A speech delivered in Parliament, by a worthy member thereof, and a most faithfull vvell-wisher to the Church and Common-weale; concerning the grievances of the kingdome. By I.P. Esquire. Pym, John, 1584-1643. 1641 (1641) Wing P4284; Thomason E198_35; ESTC R14550 22,358 43

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Those which did interrupt the justice of the Realme in the libertie of our persons and propriety of our estates The priviledges of Parliament were not given The necessitie and importance of the priviledge of Parliament for the ornament or advantage of those who are the members of Parliament they have a reall use and efficacie towards that which is the end of Parliaments we are free from suits that we may the more intirely addict our selves to the publike services we have therefore libertie of speech that our Counsels may not be corrupted with feare or our judgements perverted with selfe respects those three great faculties and functions of Parliament the Legislative Iudiciarie and Consiliarie power can not bee well exercised without such priviledges as these The wisedome of our Lawes the faithfullnesse of our Counsels the righteousnesse of our Iudgements can hardly be kept pure and untainted if they proceed from distracted and restrained mindes It is a good Rule of the Morall Philosopher Et non laedas mentem gubernatricem omnium actionum These powers of Parliament are to the bodie politike as the rationall faculties of the soule to a man That which keepes all the parts of the Common-wealth in frame and temper ought to be most carefully preserved in that freedome vigour and activitie which belongs to it self Our predecessors in this house have ever been most carefull in the first place to settle and secure their priviledges and he said he hoped that we having had greater breaches made upon us than heretofore would be no lesse tender of them and forward in seeking reparation for that which is past and prevention of the like for the time to come Then hee propounded divers particular points Particular breaches of Priviledge wherein the Priviledge of Parliament had beene broken First in restraining the members of the House 1 Restraint of speech from speaking Secondly in forbidding the Speaker to put any 2 Interdict of questions Question These two were practised the last day of the last Parliament and as was alledged by his Majesties command and both of them trench upon the very life and being of Parliaments for if such a restraining power as this should take root and bee admitted it will be impossible for us to bring any resolution to perfection in such matters as shall displease those about the King Thirdly by imprisoning divers Members of Imprisonment of Members the House for matters done in Parliament Fourthly by indictments informations and judgments Iudiciall proceedings inordinarie and inferiour Courts for speeches and proceedings in Parliaments Fifthly the disgracefull order of the Kings Order to bee bound to the good behaviour Bench whereby some members of this House were injoyned to put in securitie of the good behaviour and for refusall thereof they were continued in prison divers yeares without any particular allegation against them one of them was freed by death others not dismissed till his Majestie had declared his intention to summon this Parliament And this he noted not only as a breach of priviledge but as a violation of the common justice of the Kingdome Sixthly by the sudden and abrupt dissolution of Abrupt dissolutions of Parliament Parliaments contrary to the law and custome It hath beene often declared in Parliaments that the Parliament should not be dissolved till the petitions be answered This he said was a great grievance because it doth prevent the redresse of other grievances It were a hard Case that a private man should bee put to death without being heard As this representative body of the Commons receives a being by the summons so it receives a Civill death by the dissolution Is it not a much more heaviedoome by which wee lose our being and have this civill death inflicted on us in displeasure and not to be allowed time and libertie to answer for our selves that we should not only die but have this marke of infamy laid upon us to bee made Intestabiles disabled to make our Wills to dispose of our businesse as this House hath alwayes used to doe before Adjournments or dissolutions yet this hath often beene our case we have not beene permitted to powre out our last sighes and groanes into the bosome of our deare Soveraigne the words of dying men are full of piercing affections if we might be heard to speake no doubt wee should so fully expresse our love and faithfulnesse to our Prince as might take off the false suggestions and aspersions of others at least we should in our humble supplications recommend some such things to him in the name of his people as would make for his owne honour and the publike good of his Kingdome Thus hee concluded the first sort of grievances Grievances concerning religion being such as were against the priviledge of Parliament and passed on to the next concerning Religion all which hee conveyed under these foure heads 1 The first was the great incouragement given Incouragemēt of poperie to poperie of which he produced these particular evidences 1 A suspension of all Lawes against Papists Suspension of Lawes whereby they enjoy a free and almost publike exercise of that Religion and those good Statutes which were made for restraint of Idolatrie and superstition are now a ground of securitie to them in the practice of both being used to no other end but to get money into the Kings purse which as it is clearely against the intentions of the Law so it is full of mischiefe to the kingdome By this meanes a dangerous partie is cherished and increased who are ready to close with any opportunitie of disturbing the peace and safetie of the State Yet hee said hee did not desire any new Lawes against poperie or any rigorous courses in the execution of those alreadie in force hee was farre from seeking the ruine of their persons or estates onely hee wisht they might bee kept in such a condition as should restraine them from doing hurt It may bee objected there are moderate and There can bee no securitie from papists discreet men amongst them men of estates such as have an interest in the peace and prosperitie of the Kingdome as well as wee These hee said were not to bee considered according to their owne disposition but according to the nature of the but In their disabilitie body whereof they are parties The Planets have severall and particular motions of their owne yet they are all rapt and transported into a contrarie course by the superiour Orbe which comprehends them all The principles of Poperie are such as are incompatible with any other Religion there may bee a suspension of violence for some by respects but the ultimate end even of that moderation is that they may with more advantage extirpate that which is opposite to them Lawes will nto restraine them Oathes will not the Pope can dispence with both these and where there is occasion his command will act them to the disturbance