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The booke of freendeship of Marcus Tullie Cicero; Laelius de amicitia. English
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Cicero, Marcus Tullius.; Harington, John, d. 1582.
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me the worlde ascribeth so muche vnto me as neyther I acknowelage neyther desire but yet as me seemeth you iudge not truelye of Cato for eyther no manne there is as in deede I rather beleue or if anie bee Cato it isâ that is wyse Ah howe to leaue the reste vnspoken dyd he take the death of his sonne I can remembre Paulus and saw Caius But these may not be coÌpared to Cato the great and the noble Wherfore beware howe you prefer any before Cato no not hym whom Apollo as you saied adiudged the wysest for of this man his dedes and of that man his saiynges be coÌmended But concernyng my selfe to answere now you bothe reaken thus If I denie to be grieuâd with the losse of Scipio lette the wyse iudge howe well it were dooen but certes lye I shoulde for I am troubled that I am nowe bireft of such a freend as I suppose neuer none shalbe and as I can approue neuer none hath been But I nede no phisicke I can comforte my selfe and chiefly with this kynde of comfort that I am not in that errour wherwith moste men are woont to be accombred at the departing of their frendes For I think that Scipio hath no hurte mine it is if any be And for a man to be greuously troubled for his owne losses it is selfly loue and not frendly loue But who can denie that Scipio is not happiâ for except he woulde haue wyshed euer lyfe whiche was farthest out of his thought what hath he not obteined that was mâte for a man to wishe who in the beginnyng of this mannes state with vnheard vertues exceaded the great hope the citesins conceiued of him beyng â chylde who neuer sued for the Consulship and yet was twise made Consull first before tyme beeyng vnder age secondlie in tyme by course and for the common wealthe almost to late who by destroiyng two cities moste egar enemies to this Empire clerely brake vp not onely warres that were present but warres whiche were to come What should I speake of his gentle maners his naturall dutie towardes his mother his liberalâtie towardes his sisters his goodnesse towardes his seruantê his vprightnes towardes all men All these be right wel knowen to you But how deare he was to the citee it was declared by the mourning at his funeralles What then could hauyng of a fewe yeres moe haue profited hym for old age although it be no heauie burden as I remeÌbre Cato did the yere before his death discourse with me and Scip. yet it taketh away that freshe youth wherin theÌ Scip. was Wherfore his life was suche either by fortune or by glorie as nothyng coâlde bee added more But his quicke departure toke awaie the greefe of death of the which sort of diyng it is hard to speake any certaintee What menne suspecte you see Neuerthelesse this a manne maie safely saie that amongest many his daies whiche he had seen in his lyfe tyme most faire and ioyefull that daie was the noblest to P. Scipio wheÌ the Senate house beyng broken vp he was brought home again at nyghte by the eldest Senatoures by the league freendes of the Romains and also by the Latines the daie beefore he departed this lyfe that from so high a slep of honour he might seme rather to haue mounted to God then to haue gone doune to hell For I can in no wyse agree with them whiche began of late to reason thus that the soule dieth with the body and al thinges end by deaâh I waie more thâ auctoritee of olde writers and of our elders which made so godly lawes for the deade as in mine opinion they wold neuer haue dooen if they had thought there hadde nothyng concerned them And their auctoritee also I more regarde whiche were sometyme here in this land and instructed great Grece with their good rules and lessons whiche nowe is destroyed and at that tyme flourisshed And his also I esteeme more whiche by Appolloes oracle was adiudged the wisest who did not affirm somtymâ one thyng and somtyme an other as in many cases is vsed but alwaies helde one that mans sowle was an heauenlie thyng and that the same when it departed from the bodie had a waie to retourne to heauen very spedie for euery good and iuste man Whiche self same thyng Scipio also thought who seemed as it were to haue a forefeling of the thyng a verie fewe daies before his death when both Philus and Manilius beyng present and others moe yea and you your selfe Scaeuola comoned with me he reasoned three whole dayes vpon a comon wealth the latter ende of the whiche disputacion was of the euerlastyng lyfe of the soule which he said he heard of Affricanus in his slepe by a vision If that be so that euery good mans soule doth easily make his flight to heaueÌ as out of prisoÌ and cheines of the bodie whom can we iudge to haue had an easier passage to God then Scipio Wherfore to lament this his good end I feare were rather enuioê° then freendly And on thother side if I were afeard of this that the soule died with the bodie and that there remained neyther felyng of weale nor woe then as in deathe there is no goodnes so neither is there euelnesse For whan a mans feling is once gon he is made as though he had neuer ben born yet that Sci. was begot both we dooe reioyse and the citee while it standê ought to be glad Wherfore as I said afore he is verie well but with me it is somwhat wurse whoÌ reason rathâr woulde as I came beefore hym into this worlde so I should haue gone before him out of this life but yet I take such fruite of the remembraunce of our frendship that I thinke I lyued happilie that with Scipio I ledde my lyfe with whom I had a ioynct care for the common wealthe and for our priuate causes with whom bothe in peace and warre I tooke lyke parte yea and wâe agreed euermore in loue mynde pourpose and opinion in whiche thyng the whole pithe of freÌdship standeth Therfore this fame of wysdom which Fannius euen nowe rehearsed doeth not so greatly delighte me specially beyng false as thaâ I trust there shalbe an euerlastyng memorie of our freendship and the same the rather is an heartiâye vnto me because that in so many hundred yeares as haue passed there haue he founde skace three or âowre couples of freendes amonge the whiche sorte I see there is hope that Scipioes and Laelius frendship shall be knowen to our of âpring Fan. Uerely Laelie this can not otherwyse be chosen But seeyng you haue made mencion of frendship and we be also at leasure you shall dooe a great pleasure to me and no lesse I trust to Sâaeuola if as ye are wont of other matters when they are demaunded of you you wil so nowe dispute of frendship what you