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A84134 A brief discovery of the blasphemous doctrine of familisme, first conceived and brought forth into the world by one Henry Nicolas of the Low Countries of Germany about an hundred years agoe; and now very boldly taught by one Mr. Randall, and sundry others in and about the citie of London. Whom multitudes of people follow, and which doctrine many embrace. The summe or briefe whereof is on the other side of the leafe set downe. Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645. 1645 (1645) Wing E3382; Thomason E277_11; ESTC R200007 13,969 16

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Therefore he doth so delude with that deceit 2. Whosoever shall teach and perswade that such as are baptized with the baptisme of the holy Ghost have from thenceforth nothing to doe with the Law nor with the baptisme of repentance which John preached but away with the Law and away with John Baptist from such a one doth herein pervert the straight way of the Lord not onely in denying the baptized with the baptisme of the holy Ghost the use of the Law of God to delight therein and serve the same in his minde as Paul saith Rom. 7. but also in rejecting the estate of a repentant broken contrite heart whereof the Prophet Esay speaketh saying Cast ye up cast ye up prepare the way take up the stumbling-block out of the way of my people For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity whose name is Holy I dwell in the high and holy place with him also that is of a contrite and humble Spirit to revive the spirit of the humble and to revive the hearts of the contrite ones Esay 57.14.15 The repentant contrite heart being it which the holy Ghost purgeth and cleanseth comforteth and reviveth daily and the baptisme of repentance and the baptisme of the holy Ghost being the parts of the new birth from above wherein he that is born anew walketh and goeth on daily weeping and yet rejoycing dying and yet living sowing in teares his pretious seed in an assured hope one day to reap in joy and come to a Citie and Kingdome promised But Mr. Randall doth so teach and perswade as is aforesaid Therefore he therein perverteth the straight way of the Lord as doth H. N. the Arch-Familist 3. Whosoever shall teach and perswade that the things spoken of by Paul 1 Cor. 51 52 53 54 55 56 57. are to be attained and fulfilled now in this present time in those that are baptized with the ho-Ghost doe thereby make Christ to be already come the second time to such without sin unto salvation according to Heb. 9.28 Death to be swallowed up in victory as 1 Cor. 15.54 according to Hosea 13.14 The sting of death which is sin to be quite taken away And all the great and eternall promises to bee already fulfilled in them and so destroy the hope of the Saints as touching the personall comming of Christ in his glory to judge the quick and the dead and of the resurrection of the bodies of the Saints and of the kingdome glory and life everlasting of body and loule hereafter to come which the Scriptures so much speak of and all the Saints assuredly look for But Mr. Randall as well as H. N. the oldest Familist doth so teach and perswade Therefore he as well as H. N. doth hereby destroy as much as in him lieth the hope of the Saints And so the whole charge is fully proved 4. Whosoever shall teach and affirme that every creature in the first estate of creation was God because they were made by the word of God doth therein teach and affirme a very erroneous and blasphemous thing But Mr. Randall doth so teach and affirme Therefore c. And although as I confesse he said mistake me not I doe not say the creature is the Creator neither doe I say Man is God that were blasphemy for man is vanity yea a lie yet did not Mr. Randall hereby contradict his first doctrine for if I should ask him and say Did God by his word make vanity or a lie No doubt he would answer and say No. What is that man then which hee calls a lie and vanity Doubtlesse he means man in his fall and so the creature though he denieth it to be the Creator yet he denieth it not to be God no more then he denieth the Word or Sonne of God to be God because he is not nor can be the Father This Mr. Randall counts not blasphemy but I affirme it is Neither because the Father the Word and the holy Ghost is one God are the Saints which are baptized with the holy Ghost therefore God also Neither because they have the holy Ghost dwelling in them doe they therefore know all things as God knoweth all things as Mr. Randall taught and affirmed according as H. N. hath done 5. Whosoever shall presume to turn the holy Writings and saying of Moses and the Prophets of Christ and his Apostles and the proper names persons and things mentioned and contained therein into allegories and give them out to be the mystery and spirituall meaning of the same The holy Ghost in the writings or sayings of Moses and the Prophets of Christ and his Apostles having not so done nor left any rule or direction for it doth therein presume above that which is written and so addeth to and taketh from the sayings writings and prophesies of the holy Scriptures and deceiveth the people themselves also being deceived But Mr. Randall as well as H. N. hath so done as by the Sermons of the one and the printed books of the other compared together may appear Therefore And so Sir not to mention every thing delivered by you against which just exception may be taken wee desire you to consider of these things and to give us your answer in writing And beleeve us we have not the least thought of raising persecution against you as you perhaps or some other may think nor of wronging you any kind of way onely our desire and end is that the truth may bee known unto us all and that we should not delude nor be deluded And so I rest your Christian friend John Etherington These were given to Mr. Randoll by the said Mr. Cullumbeam but hee returneth no answer nor will as some that are of his hearers and inward with him say as from himselfe And now to the end all men may see that Mr. Randall is not wronged in the forementioned charge I will here set down the own words of H.N. with his quotations as they stand printed in his book intituled The joyfull Message of the Kingdome As first in his Preface where he hath these words COnsider on the time O all yee people which love the truth of Jesu Christ Presently in this day of the love and of the appearing of the comming of our Lord Iesu Christ in the resurrection of the dead wherein the Law Esay 65. 1 Cor. 15. the Prophets and all what is written of Christ becommeth fulfilled And in Chap. 1. he hath these words H.N. Through the grace and mercy of God and through the holy Spirit of the love of Iesu Christ raised up by the highest God from the death Iohn 6. Act. 17. Eph. 2. Rom. 8. Ephes 4. Ioh. 14. Apoc. 21. Iohn 1. 1 Iohn 1. Ier. 33. 1 Cor. 13. Apoc. 14. Esay according to the providence of God and his promises anointed with the holy Ghost in the old age of the holy understanding of Iesu Christ Godded with God in the Spirit of his love made heire
Mahomet and his doctrine as there is for me or any Christian else to believe this Dutchman Henry Nicolas and his doctrine Although I confesse as touching my self I being in my youth zealously affected was very inquisitive into those severall sorts of Religions which I heard of then professed was as apt naturally as another to be seduced some way or other from the truth and had been but that the Lord of his goodnes he having of his free grace shewed mercy unto me in giving me repentance and forgiveness of my sins by the same grace kept me And as touching this of H. N. especially praised be the Lord I never had any the least inclination in my mind toward it but have always since the time that I first saw into it oppos'd the same as a very blasphemous deceit though I have bin by some very falsely charged with it And now because some may object and say the Scriptures speake plainly in some places of a perfection and resurrection and of an entrance into the rest of God and everlasting kingdom of Jesus Christ here in this present time as Mat. 19.21 Phil. 3.15 Joh. 5.25 Heb. 4 3. Rev. 20.5.6 Col. 2.12 3.1 2 Pet. 1.11 To this I answer and confesse it is true that in the Spirit the faithfull have through faith an entrance into the eternall rest of God kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ and so are risen from the dead and live and shall not come into condemnation soul nor body and this is called perfection the first resurrection renovation spirituall the first fruits of the Spirit c. but this is not the perfection nor the resurrection spoken of Joh. 5.28 Joh. 6.39.40 44. so Luk. 20.35 1 Cor. 15.32 1 Thes 4.16 Phil. 3.11 Heb. 6.1 Neither is this entrance into the rest of God and kingdome of the Lord Jesus Christ the full possession promised the Saints and which they look for But they presse hard toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus looking unto that which is before them and not casting off any of the principles or beginings of Christ as to say as Mr. Randall did away with this or away with that nay but only not to look upon them as if that were all but to leave and forget them in that respect as things behind and yet neverthelesse as Paul also saith whereunto we have already attained let us walk by one rule c. Phil. 3.16 The prize of the high calling being the full perfection and possession of all things promised even the Crown of righteousnesse concerning which Paul saith I have fought a good fight I have finished my course henceforth is laid up for me a crown of righteousnesse which the Lord the righteous Judge shall give me in that day and not to me only but unto them also that love his appearing 2 Tim. 4.7 And although the very perfection of the Law of God be now required of the Snints and that they are to set the same before them as a perfect mark as well in respect of the Spiritual intent thereof as the literal to love and delight therein with their whole soule and to keep it in the very perfection not in part or for an hour or day but fully and continually yet do they not attain thereunto here nor can though D. G. one of the Doctors of Familisme before mentioned hath very much laboured to prove they may and can but they sigh and mourn and weep because of their sins and daily failings and would fain keep it perfectly this is the law of their mind through the spirit but they have another law in their members which leadeth them captive to the law of sin and of death and yet neverthelesse they crying out against themselves bewailing the same do assuredly believe that they shall be delivered from their body of sin and death as Paul saith Rom. 7. the sting of death which is sin shall be taken away and death swallowed up in victory when the Lord cometh as he also saith 1 Cor. 15. And as touching the coming of the Lord at the last day it is not to be understood in a mystical manner in the Spirit onely as H. N. would have it as if Christ had left or quite put off his humane person neither because Christ hath been is and will be with his Church and chosen people to the end of the world in respect of his Spirit according to his promise to instruct to guide and comfort them is the presence of his Spirit to be taken for this coming nor the instruction guidance comfort of the Spirit which the Apostle himself at that present time injoyed the resurrection he speaks of 1 Cor. 15. as H.N. and the teachers of Familisme would have it Nay but the Lords coming shall be in a most open manifest and glorious manner so as that every eye shall see him and all shall know him to be the very same man Jesus the Chiist that was crucified and pierced at Jerusalem he shall in person really and truly come as the cleer Words of the Scripture speak Matth. 24.30 Rev. 1.7 and sundry other places and this resurrection shall be also in a most plain and evident manner all that are in the graves shall hear his voyce and shall come forth and that truly and really as the Word saith Joh. 5.28 29. Then Abraham Isaac Jacob and all the holy Fathers before them and the holy children after them which sleep in the dust of the earth shall come forth out of their caves tombs graves and places where they have slept each bone of every one shall come to his bone and sinnes shall knit them together skin shall cover them breath shall enter into them and they shall live and stand upon their feet according as Ezekiel prophesied 37. and as Paul testifieth 1 Cor. 15. 1 Thes 4. and also Christ himself Rev. 20.12.13 14. And when the Lord Jesus Christ the Sonne of Man for so hee stileth himselfe shall indeed so come in his glory and all his holy Angels with him as he hath said Matth. 25. Then shall he sit in the Throne of his glory even in that Throne whereof he spoke unto David concerning him saying I will raise up thy seed after thee which shall bee of thy sonnes and I will establish his Kingdome and he shall build me an house and I will estabbish his throne for ever I will be his father and he shall be my son And I will not take my mercy away from him as I took it away from him that was before thee But I will settle him in my house and in my kingdome for ever and his throne shall bee established for evermore 1 Chron. 17.11 12 13 14. And again Once have I have I sworn by my Holinesse that I will not lie unto David his seed shall endure for ever and his throne as the Sunne before me it shall endure for ever as the
A BRIEF DISCOVERY OF The Blasphemous Doctrine of Familisme First conceived and brought forth into the world by one HENRY NICOLAS of the Low Countries of Germany about an hundred years agoe And now very boldly taught by one Mr. Randall and sundry others in and about the Citie of London Whom multitudes of people follow and which Doctrine many embrace The summe or briefe whereof is on the other side of the leafe set downe MATTH 24.4.5 Take heed that no man deceive you for many shall come in my name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many Imprimatur Iohn Downam LONDON Printed by Matthew Simmons in Aldersgate-street 1645. The summe or maine points of the Doctrine of H. N. 1. THat Christ is already come in his glory from the right hand of God to judge the quick and the dead 2. That the great and last Trumpet now soundeth and they that sleep in Christ are raised from the dead the sting of death which is sin taken away and death swallowed up in victory 3. That holinesse or the anointing of the holy Ghost and the Sabbath is Christ and the sin which they call the contrary anointing and child of the Devill is the Antichrist 4. That all the promises of God and whatsoever is written and foretold in the Scriptures concerning the everlasting Kingdome of Christ and his Saints becometh now in this present day of H. N. and his Family fulfilled 5. That the Seat or Throne of judgement whereon Christ sitteth is the communialty of the Family of Love whereof H. N. is the oldest Father And that he and they are Godded with God and God manned with them 6. That the way and manner of judging is by the new Evangelie of H.N. The parabolicall sayings and mysticall sentences which he hath written and published and the Elders or perfect holy ones of the Family hold forth to the world You shall have the own sayings of H. N. word for word with his owne quotations of Scriptures to read and consider in the following Discovery whereupon you may the better discern and judge of things A briefe discovery of the blasphemous Doctrine of Familisme THat which occasioned me to write and publish this Discovery was some Doctrines delivered in a house within the Spittle-yard without Bishops-gate neere London by one Mr. Randoll whom I was requested by some friends to heare And observing the multitude of people that followed him and how they were affected with his doctrine which I did plainly perceive was the very grounds of Familisme contained in the writings of H. N. I hereupon thought good a little to inform the people therof whereat some were much offended and one mocked and said See what an old man here is and what a child here is And I asked one of them if he did believe that the bodies of men which were dead and buried in the earth should be raised to life againe and he answered me saying I cannot tel And I mentioning Christs resurrection from the dead one answered Christ was not then a true man but onely God and another affirmed that he had known Christ after the flesh And I asked him when and where but hee would give me no answer Whereupon I said See how this people are taught And a woman answered and said unto me I think if you did speak with the Minister you should not find him of their mind And I told her she was deceived he thought the same things So I left them for that time And after this I having a desire to heare him yet more and that the people should be better informed I came again and brought with me five or six papers wherein I had written these words following This Gentleman Mr. Randall doth delude the people with the deceitfull doctrine of Familisme which I will undertake to prove by the things he hath delivered and that he therein doth pervert the straight way of the Lord and destroy the hope of the Saints as much as in him lieth And when his Sermon was ended and that upon consideration of a point of doctrine he delivered that a man baptized with the holy Ghost knew all things even as God knew all things which himselfe greatly admired as a deep mystery and likened it to the great Ocean where there is no casting Anchor nor sounding the bottome I said unto the people This man hath many great words and a great deale of deceit And some of them being much displeased and moved with anger at my saying I went down out of the house into the yard and gave one of the forementioned papers unto a man that was of Mr. Randals acquaintance and requested him to give it him and a friend of mine whom the man knew told him that we desired to speak with Mr. Randal And about three or four dayes after my friend spake with the man whose name as I now understand was Mr Cullumbeame and asked him concerning the motion of speaking with him and he told him that Mr. Randall was very willing and so they appointed the day and hour and place of meeting to that purpose which was on Tuesday the week following being the 25. of February at two of the clock in the afternoon and at the house of the said Mr. Cullumbeame a Grocer in Thames street London So at the day and houre appointed I with five or six of my acquaintance came to the house and staid about the space of two houres waiting for Mr. Randall but he came not Then I having a paper wherein I had written a few Arguments for proofe of the forementioned charge I gave it to Mr. Cullumbeame and wished him to give it Mr. Randall and request him to give us his answer to the same in writing and so we departed The Arguments were these following 1. Whosoever shall teach and perswade the people that the perfection and resurrection spoken of by Paul 1 Corinth 15.51 52 53 54 55 56 57. Philip. 3.11 12 13 14. Ephes 4.12.13 Heb. 6.1 which in verse 18. the Apostle calleth The hope set before us and describeth through the rest of the Epistle following by the names of the true Tabernacle which the Lord pitched and not man Heb. 8.2 Good things to come c. chap. 9.11 An eternall inheritance vers 15. An enduring substance chap. 10.34 Great recompence of reward vers 35. A Citie having foundations whose builder and maker is God chap. 11.10 An heavenly countrey and a Citie prepared of God vers vers 16. A better resurrection v. 35. A kingdome which cannot be moved chap. 12.28 A Citie to come chap. 13.14 are to bee attained in the fulnesse and perfection of them according to these testimonies Now in this present time before the common death of the body doth herein teach and perswade to the deceitfull Doctrine of Familisme taught by Henry Nicholas the principall Author thereof and so deludeth the people therewith But Mr. Randall doth so teach and perswade as sundry persons that heard him can witnesse
Thess 4. and have regard unto the sound of the last Trumpet and consider the forefrunt of the true Tabernacle of God wherein the beginning of the true God service and of the upright Christian life becometh erected c. So farre are H. N. his own words with his quotations in the Margine And that he makes the anointing or sanctification of the holy Ghost which he calleth the perfection holinesse and the Sabbath to be the Christ and the contrary anointing the nature of sinne and child of the Devill as he calls it to be the Antichrist which the Scripture speaketh of it is manifest by his owne words Chap. 18. and sundry other places of the book of his Evangely wherein also many other matters of the like nature all grounded on the forementioned principles are spoken by him too many for me here to relate Compare now the Sermons of Mr. Randall and those Doctrines of H. N. together and you shall see how Mr. Randall like a right disciple of H. N. followeth him therein And here you may see by the writings of H. N. before rehearsed in what an allegoricall and mysticall sense he expoundeth all those Scriptures which he coats in the margent making the coming of Christ in his glory and his sitting in the Throne of his glory spoken of Matth. 24.30 and 25.31 the day of judgement and sounding of the last trumpet spoken of also by Paul 1 Cor. 15. 1 Thes 4. the resurrection from the dead and every thing else in the same places mentioned the perfection the incorruption the salvation and all whatsoever the Scriptures have spoken concerning the everlasting kingdome and glory of Christ and his Saints now in this present day of H.N. and his family of love and in them and by them to become all fulfilled And now This being their very doctrine as their own words do plainly and often in their doubling kind of speaking declare it necessarily followeth that they who are fully possest with the belief thereof neither have nor can have the least hope or expectation of any other coming of Christ hereafter of a perfection of a resurrection of the body of an eternall life salvation glory rest peace paradise city kingdome to come And the case being so that their hope and happinesse is only here in this their new last day as they speak then it is best for them to rejoyce and be glad while their day lasteth and deck themselves here with Rose buds before they be withered to take their fill of pleasure as in youth to eat and drink for to morrow they shall die and all will be past And then what are all their pretended spirituall joyes but meere fancies A man that imbraceth all the pleasures that this world can afford and his carnall appetite shall desire is in as happy a case as they for if the body being dead shall rise and live no more nor the spirit after that have any sense of his being or felicity more then it had before the body was or can now remember or think of that it ever had which is also a point or consequence of their doctrine then Augustus Cesar that Pagan Emperor who lived and raigned so long in wealth and glory in pompe and pleasure was a happier man far then any of them And so all the great and glorious boastings of H.N. the high stile and manifold rare tiles he ascribeth to himself will prove to be no better then blasphemies against God and against Christ and against the Holy Ghost and all his sweet intising words of his Evangely and his pleasing Allegories though carrying never so fair a shew of godlinesse to be nothing else but meere inchantments to delude the minds and feed the fancies of people And what are all his threatnings and sentences of judegment and condemnation he pronounceth against those that reject his doctrine but a devillish device to feare the people himself being filled with the spirit of pride and high presumption Besides if there be no other resurrection nor salvation then what is now presently as H. N. saith then what condemnation is there other then what is also now presently and so when the body dieth condemnation endeth Therefore let all true faithfull Christians whose hope is not here in this life only but hereafter chiefly conclude against this H. N. otherwise Henry Nicolas that he was and is a lyer an Antichrist a blasphemer and so let him go And let Mr. Randall and all his hearers and followers take heed and before-warn'd in time and not begin to frame arguments in their minds and say It is not M. Randall and we only that teach and entertain this doctrine of H. N. there have been and are great Doctors of Divinity so called yea and some great Peers and Persons of quality and estate in this land as elsewhere that have taught and entertained the same with great affection and high applause I say let them not reason thus for although this be true as I my self do partly know having had speech with some of them forty yeeres ago and sundry times since and with one great person severall times who plainly professed the doctrine of H. N. and stood to maintain by argument that every creature is God and that there was not a resurrection of the body after the common death therof to be expected whereupon I hearing him and speaking with him said My Lord out of all doubt the whole doctrine of H.N. is a very blasphemous deceit and requested him to beware of it and did what I could to inform him in the truth which I knew and said H. N. doth admit and will have it that men may and shall have wives and children in his resurrection in a successive manner continually but Christ saith that they which shall be counted worthy of that world to come and of the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage to which hee suddenly replyed saying no they shall not marry nor be given in marriage they shall take them wives and I presently answered but Christ saith they shall be as the Angels in heaven whereunto he replyed not Now what of all this and that there have been Doctors aed others that have taught the doctrine of H. N. as one D. Everet one Shaw and at this present one D. Gill publikely in the midst of this city of London and one that went from hence to Redding D. Pordage who was in expectation of if he he hath not obtained the chief publike place there all whom I have both heard and spoken with and know that they have usually taught the same doctrine although this be so I say and that some of my own speciall acquaintance neer forty yeeres agoe fell unto the same yet is not all this a sufficient argument to perswade mee or any Christian else to entertain or believe the doctrine Nay there is as great reason in that kinde for the Turks and for Christians also to believe their
Moon and as a faithfull witnesse in heaven Psa 89. According to which the holy Angel Gabriel spake unto his mother Mary saying He shall be great and shal be called the son of the highest and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David and he shall reigne over the house of Iacob for ever and of his kingdome there shall be no end Luke 1.32 33. And as God the Father will settle his Son Jesus Christ in his House and in his kingdome for ever and in the throne of his father David even upon his holy hill of Sion as he also said Psal 2. and establish the same throne for evermore So will he give unto him the he●●hen for his inheritance and the utmost ends of the earth for his possession hee shall breake them with a rod of iron and dash them in peeces like a Potters vessell He shall also have dominion from Sea to Sea and from the river to the ends of the earth They that dwell in the wildernesse shall bow before him and the enemy shall lick the dust yea all Kings shall fall downe before him all Nations shall serve him Psa 772. What can be more plainly spoken then these things are These are no mysticall fantasies nor allegories of humane invention as those of H. N. are but they are the most true Oracles of God Now at this present time Christ sitteth in the throne of God the Father at his right hand in the heavens reigning in the supreme kingdome with him and there he is to sit and reigne yet a little while till God hath put downe all enemies under his feet And then at the last day when he commeth he is to resigne and deliver up the same unto God even the Father as it is written 1 Cor. 15. Psa 89. And then is he to take possession of his own kingdome and throne which God the Father had promised and appointed unto him long agoe even the throne kingdome of his Father David it being Gods kingdome also to reigne over the house of Iacob for ever as it was foretold 1 Chron. 17. Luke 1.31 32. Not in this corrupt world where and while his enemies rule and reigne but in that which is to come when God shall have created new heavens and a new earth and wherein righteousnesse shall dwell for ever according to his promise Esay 65.17 2 Pet. 3.13 Rev. 21. For all enemies even the last which is mortality and death of the body and the sting thereof which is sin shall then be destroyed swallowed up in victory taken away All iniquity shall now stop it mouth as the Scriptures testifie 1 Cor. 15. Psa 117.42 And then also shall the Bride the Lambs wife even the holy Citie the new Jerusalem appeare complete with all her children in her perfect beauty brightnesse and glory according as the Scriptures declare Esay 60. 62. Rev. 21. 22. God wil create Irusalem a rejoycing and her people a joy he will rejoyce in Ierusalem and joy in her children his people the voyce of weeping shall be no more heard in her nor the voyce of crying Esay 65.19 There shall be no more thence an infant of dayes nor an old man that hath not filled his dayes Esay 65.20 There shall be no more marrying nor giving in marriage nor taking of wives nor getting of children neither shall they die any more as H.N. would have it to be in his resurrection Nay all these things will be passed away as it is written Luke 20.35.36 Rev. 21.4 God will now dwell in the midst of his people as in his own Tabernacle and his Sanctuary also shall be in the midst of them for evermore as he hath spoken Ezek. 37. Rev. 21. And they shall bee a treasure in the hand of the Lord a peculiar people an holy nation and a kingdome of Priests before him for ever as it is also written Exo. 19.5.6 And as it is given to the King Psa 2. So hath he promised and will give unto them power likewise and they shall rule the nations with a rod of iron and break them in peeces like a potters vessel Rev. 2.26.27 And as he overcame and is sitten down with his Father in his throne so will he give them all that overcome to sit with him in his throne Rev. 3.21 This for the present and if farther occasion shall require and oportunity serve there may be yet a more full discovery FINIS