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A05326 A helpe to discourse. Or, A miscelany of merriment Consisting of wittie, philosophical and astronomicall questions and answers. As also, of epigrams, epitaphs, riddles, and iests. Together with the countrymans counsellour, next his yearely oracle or prognostication to consult with. Contayning diuers necessary rules and obseruations of much vse and consequence being knowne. By W.B. and E.P. Basse, William, d. ca. 1653, attributed name.; Phillips, Edward, 1630-1696?, attributed name.; Pond, Edward, d. 1629, attributed name. 1619 (1619) STC 1547; ESTC S117185 70,959 300

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woman 12. ribs for that rib of which Eue was formed was peculiarly made by God to that purpose neither was it a bare bone but had flesh likewise And therefore since frō earth the slime of the earth frō a bone frō that earth all posterities are descended though some be rich some be poore some be noble and some base yet they are all but of one mettall and discent as to that purpose followeth Aurea nobilitas luteam si bestiat ollam Non ideo sequitur hanc minus esse lutam If golden titles guild an earthen pot That it s lesse earth for that it followes not And concerning the pride of cloathing this admonisheth vs that they should not bee abused to that excesse but rather for our humiliation the sad remembrancers of the fall of man for Adam in his innocency wore no cloathing Pellitus nunc es fueras sine bestibus ante Mudus eras purus crimen amictus habes Q. VVhat seed of all other is the least yet bringeth forth the greatest tree A. Christ himselfe expresseth this of the Mustard seed of whom it is reported in some countreyes to be trees of that bignesse that they yeeld a shadow to sit vnder Q. VVhat kinde of men are most rare in the kingdome of heauen A. Some say hypocrites for when Christ threatens destruction to the wicked he saith their portion shall be with hypoccrites some say Vsurers But the German prouerbe sayth Princes which are as rare in heauen as venison in a poore mans kitchin but this is alwayes to be vnderstood of wicked and irreligious Princes Q. VVho are those that are called the sonnes of Thunder A. Saint Iames and Saint Iohn the Apostles and the reason of their attribute is for that they affright the wicked rouse vp the slothfull drawing al● to an admiration of their highnesse from whence it is as Saint Bede writes of Saint Iohn that sonne of thunder that he thundered so high that if hee had thundered a little higher all the world could hardly haue comprehended him Q. VVho were those that found not a Physitian to cure them being liuing but to raise them being dead A. Christ Lazarus daughters of Iayrus the widdowes sonne Euticus Dorcas and others Q Who were those that liued in the earth and neuer dyed A. Henoch and Elias Q. Who and how many were those that had their names foretold and spoken of before they were borne A. Ismael Isaack Iosua Cyrus and Iohn the Baptist. Q. Who was hee that prophesied before he was borne A. Iohn Baptist in the wombe of his mother of whom S. Austine saith that hauing not yet seene the heauen nor the earth yet he knew the Lord of both Q. What issue was that that was elder then his mo●her A. Christ to which purpose the Poet thus wittily followeth it Behold the Father is the daughters sonne The bird that built the nest is hatcht therin The old of time an howre hath not out run Eternall life to liue doth new begin c. Q. Who was he that seeking his fathers Asses found a kingdome A. Saule Q. Whether of the two companions the soule or the bodie haue the greater hand in sinne and why for the sinne of the one they should bee both together ioyntly punished A. It is thus aunswered by a Similitude a Master of a familily committeth his Orchyard to two keepers of the which the one is lame and the other blinde where this cripple that had his eye sight spies out certaine goulden Apples hanging vpon a tree delightfull to his sight contentiue to his tast if hee might but obtaine them he not able to pluck them relates to his fellow how pleasant the fruite seemes to him that hee lookes vppon with his eyes and how willingly he would tast if hee had but legges to beare him to them To whom the blinde answers and I would not sticke to pull the apples if I had but thy eyes to see them and so at last between this debate they agree that hee that had his eyes should ride vpon the others shoulders that had his legges this being done they were able to plucke the fruite and did eate and hauing eaten the master of the Orchyard enters and finds his damage enquires by whom it was done and they both confesse their act and furtherance how the one vsed his feet and the other his eyes and so they did it betweene them The master finding it so punisheth both with one equall punishment as they had both deserued After which Example doth this more wise Gouernour exempt neither body nor soule because they both lend their furtherance to sinne and beeing thus both guiltie thus hee punisheth them inseparably for euer Q. But why should eternitie punish that which is committed in time and oftentimes but a short time A 1. Because the sinne though it bee committed in time is against an infinit Maiestie Secondly because God iudges according to the wilful inclination of a sinner that would sinne eternally if he might liue eternally and to his indefatigallibent of wickednesse God answers him with euerlasting punishments Q. VVhether do fooles bring more profite to wise men or wisemen to fooles A. Cato saith that fooles bring more profite to wise men because wisemen seeing their folly they endeauour to avoyde it whereas fooles on the contrary make no vse of the wisedome of the wise by reason of their folly Q. VVherefore doe Serpents since they hate all mankinde yet chiefly bend their forces against women A. By reason of the perpetuall enenmitie put by God betweene the woman and the serpent and the seede of the woman and the seed of the serpent Of which one thus writes concerning the blessed seede of the woman that broke this head of the Serpent Quos anguis dirus tristi de funere strauit Hos Sanguis mirus Christi de vulnere lauit And as another to the like effect Anguis peccatum mortem generauit in horto Sanguis iustitiam vitā reparauit in ara 1 Where the dire serpent brought in wounds and death Christ his by blood hath heald restord our breath 2 Both sinne and death to our succeeding losse The serpent gaue in garden to mankinde But Christ restorde againe vpon his crosse Iustice and life whereby we ransome finde And as another to that purpose Soluit pendendo quod Adā cōmisit e dendo Q. How is death proued to be nothing to vs A. Thus when death is then wee are not and when we are then death is not therfore death is nothing to vs. Q. How is our life proued to be a something almost depending vpon nothing A. Thus the yeeres that are past are gone those we haue not the future we are not certaine of and therefore boast not of the ●ime present is but a moment and that is the brittle thred it depends vpon And therefore to this I adde with a father happy is he that in this his short minute
be made by his word why God made choyce of a remnant and reiected the greatest part and the like let such questions say we amaze the curious and humble the wise and let it be thought a sinne in vs to haue a tongue to speake or a heart to thinke where the Spirit of God had not a penne to write and let such be answered as Saint Austine answered one curious in such questions That he ordayned a hell for such kind of inquirers as Euclid the Phylosopher answered one so demāding what thou asketh quoth he I am ignorant but this I know God is angry with such kinde of inquirers Q. There is a thing which is the Temple it selfe the Altar the Priest he to whom it was offered he that was offered and who was that A. A strange collection proposed and resolued by them that haue sweat in the trau●ll of the Scripture and verified of him of whom alll the Prophets beare witnesse that is Christ for in a Sacrifice foure things are to bee considered 1. To whom it it is offered 2. by whom 3. what is offered 4. for whom it is offered which all haue their concurrence on him Q. Whether did the Crosse beare Christ or Christ beare the Crosse. A. It did both and both at once and in bearing him it bore all our iniquities and therefore as a Father prayd so I desire that he may be wholly fastned in my heart that was wholly fastned on the crosse for me Inter carnifices sancto pendente latrone Par est poenatrium sed dispar causa Deorum Hi mundo sunt quippe rei pro crimine multo Huic reus est mundu● saluatus sanguine iusto Betweene two theeues the iust condemnd to die Did hang where al like punishmēt did trie Though for a cause vnlike they both death tryde Fo● sinnes i' the world hee for the worlds sinnes dyde Of which one wittily addes that if euer goodnesse were in the middest of euill then it was Q. What were the first and last words that Christ spake in this world A. The first was fiat let there bee and after he added increase and multiply The last words were Father into thy handes I commend my spirit Q. Whether is it more necessary that Christ should bee in heauen or in the Sacrament as the Papists would haue him A. In heauen witnesse Christ himselfe when hee saith It is expedient that I go away from you for vnlesse I goe the comforter will not come Q. What wicked man was that that for a most vilde price solde to others what he had not in his power and yet what was more pretious then all the world besides A. Iudas that sold Christ of whom as a Father writes his death was answerable to his life in that he was hanged being a theefe that hee bu●st being a traytor c. Q. A certaine godly man fr●m a wicked required a guift that was more excellent then all the world and what was that A. Ioseph of Arimathea when hee begged of Pylate Christs body Q. What part of the body of man doth God chiefly require for his seruice A. The heart that inward triangle of loue for which hee calls for in these words My sonne giue me thy heart and in another place this people honour mee with their mouthes but their hearts are farre from me To which purpose is here annexed a fable of a certaine Hermit that in his deuotion besought God that he might know what worship he required chiefly who was answered by the Oracle in these words Da mediam Lunam Solem simul Canis iram Giue the halfe Moone the Sunne and the anger of the Dogge Hee good old man hearing this oenigma began to bee perplext to thinke of these impossibilities as how he should bee able to pull the Moone from the skie though the lowest of all the Planets yet too high for his reach or capacitie much lesse the Sunne in a higher Sphere and more difficult vntill it was thus explaned to him Giue the halfe Moone that is C The Sunne that is O the Dogges anger that is R And that is the heart a guift that God requires Q. Into how many faiths is the world deuided in A. The world is deuided into foure parts and foure Religions possesse the same and with much diuersitie in euerie one for as the saying is how many heads so many opinions which foure are Iudaisme Christianitie Mahomatism and Paganisme Therefore it was the good counsell of Vincentius where he sayd wee are not to sway religion to what fancie we would haue her but we must be swayde by her whither she leades vs whereupon wee conclude it vnaduisedly spoken by an Emperour who walking in his garden answered one that had endeuoured to roote out many sects out of his land that their diuersitie delighted him as the diuersitie of his flowers to looke vpon and that seeing euerie man made a religion to his humour there would assoone be an vnitie therein as a truce betweene the winde and the Sea Q. To what is an Hypocrite most fitly compared A. To a candle that carries a fayre light or shew to others but wastes it selfe for his vaine glory to the socket Beside euery hypocrite is sayd to haue the voyce of Iacob but the heart and hands of Esau. Q. What was the difference betweene Caine and Abels Sacrifice A. Thus much hath beene obserued by the Poet where Abell sayth Sacram pingue dabo nec macrum sacrificabo My fat to holy vse I le giue And not my leane they still shall liue But euery hypocrite sayth thus with Caine. Sacrificabo macrum nec dabo pingue sacrum My leane shall to the Alter flie And not my fat that ought to die Q. VVhether were the heathen Gods or heathen men more antient A. Certainely the men that made the Gods Q. In what place was it that the voice of on creature purced all the cares in the world A. In Noes Arke Q. By what precept was it that Philip king of Macedon became something humbled in his thoughts after his victories when nothing else could admonish him A. By the wise counsell of one of his Captaines who noting his ambition bad him measure his owne shadow and hee should finde it no longer then it was before Q. By what meanes came Sesostris a king of the Egyptians somwhat to pul down his ambitious plumes of vanity and pride A. This king Sesostris as stories mention hauing conquered diuers kingdomes and led captiue their kings vassailed foure of them to the seruice of his horses to draw his chariot where euer as the wheele turned one of them looking backe euer earnestly noted it insomuch that Sesostris perceiuing it demanded his reason therefore who told him that he obserued the mutability of fortune in the present subiecting suddē aduancing of fir●t the one part thē the other how the highest came presently to be lowest and the lowest wheeled presently to be highest and al
with humour to giue fancy tast When as some other whose successe more bad Tugs 60. years like leathern Adā clad For skinnes or figge leaues for to hide his skinne Whose heart being plaine hee cannot this way sinne Whose total substance all his hopes to boote Was neuer worth the trust of such a shute What should I say of this vnequall lotte Would God thus haue it surely I thinke not Though some distinctions hee would haue to bee Yet not in such a terrible degree Hee would not haue thee see thy brother lacke Then flake thy cost and cloath some naked backe Hee would not haue thee see thy brother pine But him sustain'd from that excesse of thine If for thy selfe thy whole endeauours tend If what thou hast thou wouldst bee thine heyre and spend Then know like that rich glutton thou mayest craue A droppe and be denide because he gaue Not to the needy crummes that did belong Droppes were denide him for to coole his tongue Vpon the late Starre This yeare there hath appear'd a streaming starre Within our natiue Hemisphere or clime But whether it brings vs newes of peace or warre Of plague or famine who i' st can diuine Though some interprete it to change of State Hostile inuasion or some great mans end Rumors of warres here landed to vs late Or like particulars that they entend But since the Character hath such a letter That none can vnderstand but he that writ Let 's feare the worst our sins and make vs better And not to other ends enterprete it For in the same there 's matter vnderhil'd Which shall not to our knowledge be made plaine Till the portant and purpose bee fulfil'd For neuer came such messengers in vaine How ere with meekenesse let vs kisse the rod Hoping the best yet leauing●al to God Epit. 4. S● Tho. Becket Pro Christi sponsa Christi sub tempore Christi In templo Christi verus amator obit Englished For Christ his Spouse his Cause and at Christ tide Within Christs temple Christs true louer dyde Epit. 5. Written by a Religious Gent before his death Earth take my earth Sathan my sinne I leaue The world my substance Heauen my soule receiue Vpon Ionas in the Whales belly Buried I am and yet I am not dead Though neither earth inclose nor stone me keepes I speake I thinke with liuing ayres am fed In liuing tombe in vnfaddom'd deepes What wight besides my selfe for shame or grace Ere liu'd in death in such a tombe or place Epitaph 6. In Verolamium A forgotten Citie sometimes neere Saint Albons Stay thy foot that passest by Here is wonder to discry Churches that inter'd the dead Here themselues are sepulchred Howses where men slept and wak't Here in ashes vnderrak't In a word to allude Here is corne where once Troy stood Or more folly home to haue Here 's a City in a graue Reader wonder thinke it then Cities thus should dye like men And yet wonder thinke it none Many Cities thus are gone Epit 7. Vpon a Chambermaid Vnderneath this stone is laide A Ladies sometimes Chambermaide Who was yong and plump and prety And yet a Maid alas 't was pittie Epit. 8. Vpon a Loue sicke youth Here lyeth he he lyeth here That bounst and pitty cride The Dore not op't fell sicke alas Alas fell sacke and dide Epit. 9 On a rich couetous Lawyer Within this euerlasting Tombe Whose house containes her dead till doome Is one possest here to abide That yet had liu'd and had not dide If Death like him would haue agreed At any rate to haue been fee'd Or if he could at point of death That sold his wind haue bought but breath This crosse to him could neere so fall To haue wed the Church that woo'd the Hall Epit. 10. Vpon a Citizen From wares and cares fained breath Heere I at last am freed by death If that my dealings were not iust The more I feare the lesse I trust What though 100. Blue coates sing My friends did● mourne the bels did ring The earth receiu'd me with applause All doth not better mend my cause Fed I the hungry cloath'd the poore Made I these friends to goe before No I left wealth behind vnspent Coines vnreceiu'd that I had lent And suites vnended wag'd by cost And all I left behind is lost Good deeds I did and gifts I gaue Those went before me those I haue Epit. 11. A memento for mortalitie Taken from the view of Sepulchres of so many Kings and Nobles as lye interred in the Abbey of Westminster Mortality behold and feare What a change of flesh is here Thinke how many royall bones Sleepe within this heape of stones Hence remou'd from beds of ease Dainty fare and what might please Fretted roofes and costly showes To a roofe that flats the nose Which proclaimes all flesh is grasse How the Worlds faire Glories passe That there is no trust in Health In youth in age in greatnesse wealth For if such could haue repreeu'd Those had been immortall liu'd Know from this the World a snare How that greatnesse is but care How all pleasures are but paine And how short they doe remaine For here they lie had realms and lands That now want strength to stir their hands Where from their Pulpits seel'd with dust They preach In Greatnes is no trust Heere 's an Aker sowne indeed With the richest royalst seed That the earth did ere sucke in Since the first man dide for sin Here the bones of birth haue cride Though Gods they were as men they dyde Here are sands ignoble things Dropt from the ruin'd sides of kings With whom the poore mans earth being showne The difference is not easily knowne Here 's a world of pompe and state Forgotten dead disconsolate Kings Thinke then this sith that mows down Exempts no meaner mortall things Then bid the wanton Lady tread Amid ●hese mazes of the dead And these truely vnderstood More shall coole quench the blood Then her many sports aday And her nighty wanton play Bid her paint till day of doome To this fauour she must come Bid the Marchant gather wealth The Vsurer exact by stealth The proud man beat it frō his thought Yet to this shape all must be brought A short addition or memento hereunto annexed vpon the death of Queen ANNE See here this plotte for all her store With greedy throate still gapes for more Which with our griefe and her successe Concludes not now in emptinesse For newly now shee hath tom'bd in earth One great in good as high in birth Vnto a hopefull Prince the mother Wife to one King and sister to another A king her father euery way borne high Match't great liu'd great in speare of maiestie Yet notwithstanding this bloud high discēt As rich in virtue and more eminent Respectiue liber all with a plenteous hand Where desert crau'd or she might vnderstand A needfull good or seasonable supply To such her streame of goodnes neere