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A53499 An answer to the challenge of Mr. Henry Jennings (Protestant Arch-Deacon of Dromore) which evidently makes-out the present Church of Romes doctrine to have been maintain'd in the first five ages, & the adversarys principles to be only a heap of heresies lawfully condemn'd by the primitive Church. To which is annexed An answer to one Whealy. Set forth by James O Shiell reader of Divinity. O'Sheill, James. 1699 (1699) Wing O530A; ESTC R214539 82,791 345

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and I prove the first part of the Anticedent by our Saviour's own words Iohn c 6 v 51 where he sayes thus I am the living bread which came down from heaven if any man eat of this bread he shall live forever and the bread that I will give is my flesh which I will give for the life of the world But then the Iewes wanting true faith said one to an other how can this man give u● his flesh to eate v 52. certainly then our Saviour who came to this world to instruct and leade us out of all darknesse to the true light hearing the Iewes murmuring so and doubting of what he said to be true wou'd explain the aforesaid words if he had any mystical meaning but he was so far from so doing that he confirm'd and repeated them again over and over● as is manifest by the 53 54 c. v where we read the following words then Iesus said unto them verily verily I say unto ye except ye eate the flesh of the son of man and drinke his blood ye have no life in ye whosoever eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternall life and I will raise him up at the last day for my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drinke indeed he that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I 〈◊〉 him as the living Father hath sent me and I live by the Father so he that eateth me even he shall live by me This is the bread which came down from heaven not as your Fathers did eate ●anna and are dead he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever So that every faithfull sincere Christian may plainly understand that if our Saviour then had not meant that he was to give his own true flesh and blood to be really eaten and dranke that he wou'd not so proceed in confirming what he said in the begining and also that he wou'd not suffer his own disciples to part with-out declaring his mind to them as he did often before when he spo●e in parables neither wou'd he declare at his last supper that he gave to his discples his own body and blood saying thus Take eate this his my b●dy and he tooke the cup and gave thankes and gave it to them saying drinke ye all of it for his is my blood of the new test●me●t which shall be sh●d for many for the remission of sinnes Matt c 26 v 26 27 28 I leave it to all faithfull Christians seriously to be consider'd whether Christ gave only figuratively his own body and blood for the remission of our sinnes or his reall body and blood If he gave them really for our Salvation he also gave them really t● his disciples as his own word● do manifestly affirme to deny which is of no less consequence than to charge Christ with untruth or at lest that he had not words significant to explain his intention which is rash and impious to judge of his infinite power therefore all Christians are oblig'd not to mistrust of the truth of Christ's words or doubt of their literal sence in the aforesaid text for being we acknowledge that Christ is omnipotent and consequently that it is in his Power to make of the bread and wine his own flesh and blood by his divine benediction we ought not to doubt of what he said to be true and if in case he had not exprest so plainly his mind unto us concerning this mysterie we ought to believe it firmly by St Paul's testimonye ●ae Corinth c 11 v 23 24 c. saying thus for I have receiv'd of the Lord that which also I deliver'd u●to ye that ●he Lord Jesus the same night in which he w●● betrayed ●ooke bread and when he had given thankes he brake and said take eate this is my body which shall be ●●liver'd for ye thi● do ye in remembran●e of m● afte● the ●ame māner also he tooke the c●p when he had supped saying this cup is the new testament in my blood this doe ye as often as ye drinke it in remembra●ce of me for as often as ye eate th●s br●ad and drinke this cup ye do shew the Lords death till be come whosoever shall ●at this bread ●● drinke this cup of the Lord unworthily shall be guilty of the body and blood of the ●o●d By which words St Paul openly declares that Christ gave his own body blood to his disciples at his last supper and also he affirms himself to have been taught this doctrine by the Lord and that he deliever'd the same to the Corinthians that there by he might perswade them not to doubt of what he said to be true but to firmly believe the reall presence be●ng it was the Lords doctrine delieuer'd unto him in order to teach it to the Christians Now let us heare the Authorityes of the holy Fathers Doctors of the Primitive Church wherewith I shall prove the second Part of the antecedent St. Ignatius the Apostles Disciple in his Epist to those of Smyrna ci●ed by Theodoret in his ● Dialogue sayes thus they ●●mit not the Eucharists and o●lations because they confess not the Euch●r●st to be the fles● of our Saviour who suffer'd for ou● sinne● Let the reader take ●otice of those heretickes against whose principles St Ignatius speaks in the aforsaid text for they rejected the Eucharist lest they would be forc'd to confess that Christ had true flesh but if the Eucharist had not then been believ'd to be Christ's ●rue flesh those heretiks could have no kind of reason to re-ject it for they did no● deny the figure or Image of Chris● but what they deny'd was tha● Christ had true flesh The like argumen● may be form'd against the Jewes admiration hearing the word of Christ Iohn c 6 v. 51 c. for if then the jewes would believe that Christ was to give his flesh only in figure and remembrance they would have no reasō to murmur or to mistrust the truth of Christ's words so that it manifestly appears that the Jewes suppos'd that Christ meant his true flesh and also that those heretiks of the prmitive Church believ'd and acknowledge that it was then some of the Catholick● Doctrine to believe that Christ's true flesh was really present in the holy Eucharist St. ●●ustin Martyr who liv'd in the year 150 in his 2 Apology to Antoninus sayes thus we do not receive this as common bread or as common drinke but as the son of God Iesus Christ ou● Saviour in●●rnate had flesh and blood for our salvation so are we taught that th● Eucharist is the flesh blood of the same Iesus incarnate St Irenaeus who liv'd in the same Century speaking of the hereticks of the Synagogue who deny'd Christ to have been the son of God sayes the following words in his 4th book c 34 how can they be assured the bread in which thankes are given to be the body of our Lord the
the said points if they had not understood and firmly believ'd that they taught false and erronious Doctrines neither wou'd all the aforesaid Councils of the Primitive Church which my adversary in his challenge acknowledges to have then retain'd the true faith of Jesus Christ condemn their Doctrines if they were not also Hethrodox contrary to the true faith which they and their forefathers receiv'd from Jesus Christ his Disciples therfore whosoever desires to find embrace a Church wherein the old incorrupted principles of Christianity are ●aught and such Doctrines only as were maintain'd by the ancient p●r● Church even of Ro●e for up-wards of 500 years after Christ let him embrace the present Church of Rome wherein the said principles are duely profess●d the old and the present Church of Rome being still the same in prīciples whereas the Doctrines of those who now call themselves reformers the Church of Englād Presbyteriās Quakers c. wherein the said convin●icles do now di●●er from the presēt Church of Rome 〈◊〉 never maintain'd by the ancient Church of Rome but 〈◊〉 ●●piously brought in by a ser●es of Hereticks who for these very Doctrines were from time to 〈◊〉 condemn'd by many 〈◊〉 national Provincial Councils ● also by the most eminent 〈◊〉 and Doctors of the primitive Church as the premisses do evidently make-out so that the reader may take no●●ce of my adversarys ignorance and presumption for censuring contradicting a religion so anciēt which lawfull mission acknowledgment of antiquity holy Fathers several Councils divine miracles the word of God do plainly demōstrate to be the only true and Apostolical line which leads Souls to the true way of everlasting glory happiness therefore reader if you have been heretofore of my adversarys opinion I beseech you for the love of Jesus Christ to compare seriously his principles and those of the Church of Rome togeather and then to consider ●ttentively the state and circumstances wherein you are out of ●he holy Catholick Church out of which there is no salvation to be expected as the following holy Fathers do openly declare St. Cy●rian in his book de vnitate Ecclesiae speaking of those who are out of the Church sayes thus do they thinke Christ is amongst them ●●● tho' they were drawn to torments ●xecution for the confession of the name of Christ yet this pollutiō is not wash'd away no● not with blood this inexpiable and inexcusable crime of schis●● is not purg'd away even by death itself St. Chrysostome in his 11. ho● on St. Pauls Epist to the Ephesiās ●ayes also thus there is nothing so provokes the wr●th of God a● the division of the Church i● so ●uch that tho' we shu'd have perform'd all other sort of good thi●gs y●t we ●hall in●urr ap●●is●ment ●● l●ss cr●●● for dividing the vnity of the Church than those who have do●● who 〈◊〉 and divided Christs 〈◊〉 St. Augustin in his 4. book of ●ymbole Cap 10. sayes ●●e following words If any man be so●●● s●par●ted from her he sha●l be 〈◊〉 from ●he number of the child●●n ●●ither shall ●e have God for his Father 〈◊〉 wou●d not have the Church for 〈◊〉 ●●ther ●nd it will nothing 〈◊〉 him to have rightly beli●v'd o● to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so many good workes with●●t the ●●●clusion of the so●eraign good 〈◊〉 s●p●r g●●●a Emar he say● also the following ●ords out of the Church a● heretick ●ay have all things but salvation ●● may have the sacraments he may ●ave faith and preach it only salva●ion he cannot hav● which may be ●urther confirm'd by the words of ●t James c. 2. v. 10. sayīg thus who●i●ver shall keep the whole law and ●●t offends in one point he is guilty of ●ll therefore being the salvation ●f your soul doth wholly depend ●f the true belief and intire ob●ervation of all those points of ●ith which the holy Catholick Church sufficiently proposes ●●iversaly teaches I do earnestly ●eseech you to open the eyes of ●our understanding for I know ●hat you have no invincible ignorance whereby yo● might be excus'd to embrace the principles and Doctrines of that pure anc●ent Church against which the gates of hell cannot prevail Matt. c. 16. v. 1● assure your self that I do not invite you to any old heresie as my adversary does no● the Lord forbid but to the religion preach'd and taught by Jesus Christ and his Disciples to that I say where with your fore● fathers and anteceslors have been still contented since eve● they left Paganism untill in the 16. age they were deceiv'd by the erronious Doctrines of those false prophets Luther and Calvin hold fast the form of sound words which thou hast hard from me in faith and live which is in Christ Jesus 2. Timothy c. 1 v. 13 neither give heed to fables and endless genelogies which minister questions rather than Godly ●●ifying in the faith from which some having sweru'd have turn'd aside unto vain ja●gling desiring to be teachers if the law understanding neither what they say nor whereof they affirm 1. Timothy c. 1. v. 4. 6. 7. let not villfull or gross ignorance the temporal riches and vanity of this transitory world or comply●nce to the request of your friēds deceive mislead you but consider seriously the very words of your Saviour and redeemer Jesus Christ Matt c. 16. v. 26. saying thus for what is a man profited if he ●hall gain the whole world loose his own soul● or what shall a man give in exchang● for his own soul what will it then a ●●il you after this life to be now for few years or dayes in great honour favour request in this deceitfull world afterward to be perpetually tormented in pain grief miseryes with out any hopes of mercy or redemption where neither frieds pompe nor riches can prevail in order to give you the lest dram of consolation from which punishment the Lord Jesus Christ of his infinite mercy defend both you me all Christians Amen FINIS An Answer to what o●e W●ealy ●lleages in his Almanack against St. Peters Supremacy AFter having compos'd this little work Whea●y's Almanack for the year 1●99 came accidentally into my hāds wherein he or some other malicious person in his name labours to infect the whole Kingdom with false pernicious Doctrine which he pretends to ground on some non●ensical arguments that he forms against St. Peter the Pope of Rome's Supremacy and tho' 't is hardly worth any mans while to cōfute them yet because it concerns what I have said in my Answer to mr lennings fourth poit ● thīke it fit to let him know his own ignorance and the errors of his pretended Doctrine First he offers to infer by a new invented consequence of his own that Peter was neither Bishop of Antioch or Rome because as he falsly alleages the Papists have not as yet agreed amōg themselves about the time he first remov'd from