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A01570 The ground of Christianitie composed in maner of a dialogue between Paule and Titus, contayning all the principall poyntes of our saluation in Christ. Gee, Alexander. 1584 (1584) STC 11697; ESTC S103007 79,776 112

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the Lord and so is the name changed In honour as vvhen the bread and wine which before vvere receiued not vvith honour are now receiued vvith honour and reuerence not that vve honourthe bread and vvine but the thinges represented by them as in a kinges Letters and seale vve honour the king and not the seale Operation in the sacraments of the sacraments Of three manner of presence is to be considered The operation of the vvorde in the sacrament is this to change not the ● substance b 1 Cor 10. 16 17. 1 cor 11. 24 26 27. 28. of the sacrament but that the substance thereof remayning may be made the body of Christe that is sacrament of the body of Christe And this Operation can not come but by the holye Ghoste vvhereof Augustine lib. 3 cap. 4. de Trinitate sayth Pa●●non sanctificatur in Sacramentum tam mag●um ●si operante inui●●●●liter spiritu Dei The operation of the b Math 3. 11. ioh 3 5 15 3. rom ● 9 10 1 cor 10 1 2 5 ephe 5 25 26. 2 pet 3. 21. sacraments is thought of the Papistes to giue grace vvhich in very deede giue not grace of their ovvne vvorke but onely serue as instruments and meanes of that grace and life vvhich commeth from God So Peter calleth it Verb●● vit● The vvorde of life And S Paule calleth the gospel of Christ the power of God to saluation not that they of them selues giue life and saluation but that they are certaine meanes and instruments of that life and saluation vvhich commeth to vs from God To the spirituall presence and manducation of Christe principally belongeth the sixt Chapter of Iohn albeit tvvo sorts of breade are there specified bodily or sacramentall breade and spirituall bread Bodilye or sacramentall breade of the olde Testament signifieth Christe to come c Num. 11 6 ●6 24. psalm 106 14. exod 17. 6. ● cor 10 3 4. as Manna the Rocke Bodily or Sacramentall breade of the nevv Testament signifieth Christ beeing already come as the holye Euchariste Augustine in the Psalme 77. Idem in m●ster●● c●bu●●llo●u● noster significatione idem sed ●on spe●●e Spirituall vvhich is Christ him selfe borne for vs and giuen for the life of the vvorlde Iohn 6. My flesh is meat in deed c. How we should prepare our selues to the Lords supper How a man ought to prepare himselfe t●re ceiue these mysteries They which eyther come not to the Lords table 1 Contempt vpon a Math. 7. 6. h●b 6. 6. 2 VVithout fayth contempt therof either although that they do come to it yet they be not of the body of Christ eyther come not worthilye to it as they oughte to come to the communion of the Heauenlye meate vvith their heart and that a faythfull and hungrye heart b Ioh. 6. 35. act 4. 10 12. rom 4. 24. 2● 5. 8. 14. 9 ephe 1. 13. 2. cor 1. 22 3 VVithout knowledge examination greedily desiring the grace of redemption heauenly food purchased by Christs death bloud shedding albeit they doe eate and drinke it sacramentally yet for all that they neither eat nor drink the body and bloud of Christ in deed yea and to be yet more plaine vvhosoeuer doth receiue these externall sacramentall signes the bread and cup of the Lorde vvithout the true c 1. Cor. 11. 28 2. cor 13. 5. meaning and vnderstanding of them as the Corinthians did so turne the mistical supper of the Lord vnto a prophane supper not making a difference of the Lordes body they doe not truely eate and drinke it yea and though a man doe vnderstand all the pointes there of exactly as they be taught by the wordes of Christe yet beleeueth them not to be true for lack of the historicall d Mat 7. 23. prou 10. 24. math 27 4. 5. iam 2. 1● 1. iohn 4. 18. ●aith he vnderstandeth vvhat Christ himselfe reporteth of his body and bloud and in vvhat sence he gaue the bread and wine to his disciples hovv he did institute this outvvard action vnto the remēbrance of him thus farre forth his vnderstanding is good but for lacke of faith he doth not beleeue that these things bee true which are appointed vnto vs to be kept in solemne memory that is he doth not beleeue that Christes death is auaylable to the redemption How we should prepare our selues to the Lords supper of the worlde to the forgiuenesse of our sinnes and for our reconcilement vvith God the father Item though a man hath this historial faith 4 Application yet for all that doth not a Eph. 3 17. 18 19. math 26. appropriate vnto himself for the grace of this redemption but only vnto some certain saints iust persons and therefore can not say with the Apostle which loued me and gaue himself for me Item though a man do beleeue that Christe died for him and yet doth not much regard 5 Thanksgiuing the benefite therof nor is not moued by the remēbrance thereof vnto b Math. 26. 26 30. mark 14. 22. 26. luk ●2 19. 1. cor 11. 24 thanksgiuing neither is it to be wondered at hovve that shoulde come to passe seeing vve finde by daily experience that it is no straunge matter in the nature of man to make light of good turns and to giue small thanks to the giuer of them though vve knovv that the benefits be neuer so great and proceeding from neuer so kind an hearte vvhosoeuer is of this disposition doth not taste of the meat of euerlasting life the Lords body and bloud although that he amongest the rest doe participate of the bread and cup of the Lorde And ● VVithout charitie vve haue the like iudgment of them also vvhich are not endued vvith the spirite of c Math. 5. 23. 2● 22 39. luke 10. 27. iohn 13. 33. 34. 35. rom 13 ●nto the ende 2. cor 2. 6. 1. brotherly loue vvhich by their mischieuous life to declare themselues to be none of the members of Christs body PA. May vve call vpon Angels or saints TI. VVe may not call vpon Angels or holy men departed out of this life 1 For that were to giue to them an infinitenesse to be present euery where or to giue them being absent an vnderstanding of our secret meanings that is as much as a certaine godhead and therwith all partly to conuay to them 2. confidence trust that ought to be set wholly in Accesse for men to God by Christ ● psal 1. 18 ●5 4 2 118. ● 9. God alone and so to slide wholly into idolatry But forasmuch as God calleth vs to himselfe alone and doth also with adding an oth promise that hee will both heare and helpe vs to fly to the help of others vvere an euident token of distrust and infidelity And as touching the holy men that are departed out or this life vvhat
vanquish death euen to the house thereof that is to saye euen to the graue vvherein he felt no corruption to declare How Christ de scended into Hell that euen in dying he had ouercome and vanquished death PA. VVhat meanest thou concerning this that Christ descended into hell TI. I meane that vvhether vvee doe take this vvorde Hell for a 1. Sam. 2. 6. Psal 18. 4 9. 13 30. 3. act 2. 24. death it selfe and for the extreamest and greatest perils dangers and griefes dolors and anguishes that a man can suf●er here in this vvorlde and vvhereby he may be brought vnto his death and consequently for b 1. Cor 15. 55 the sling and povver of death for the iudgement and wrath of God and for the bottomlesse pit of all miseries calamities vvhen our Sauiour Christ vvas so ou●ragiously delt vvithall vvhen he did sweat c Luk 22. 44. bloud when his soule vvas heauy euen vnto he d Math 2● 38. death and when he was hanged most opprobriously de●pitefully and haynously betwixt two theeues as e Math. 2● 46. psal 22. 1. forsaken of God and all creatures vvithour ayde helpe or comfort and so hanging on a tree did giue vp the ghost bearing the cuisse and anger of God vvhich is a verye hell feeling vpon him the condemnation paines and torments that were due vnto vs for our sinnes then vven the in deed down into hel which thoght to ouervvhelme him but it coulde not becau●e h●e vvas both vvithout sinne and also the true and naturall sonne of God And doubtles most especially he descended into hel when he did by his diuine povver make all the elect whose soules vvere in Abrahams bosome to feele f Ioh. 5. 25. 28. 11. 25. 26. rom 14. 8. 9. Colo 1. 15. 14. 19. 20. the efficacie strength and vertue of his death that he suffered for them the fruites of his passion and bloudshedding But on g 1. Pet 1. 19. Ioh. 8. 24. 1. cor 15. 54. 55. heb 1. 14. 15. the other side he vvent vnto the hell of the damned vvhen they did feele and vnderstande through his The Fruites of Christes death Christes resurrection Christes ascention godly might that they were depryued of the merits of his death and passion and of the grace health saluation purchased vnto his elect and chosen children PA. VVhat fruite haste thou by this death of Christ TI. Firste I beleeue that this death and punishment vvhich Christ suffered is a Heb. 9. 12. 13. 2. 28. 1 pet 2. 1. 1. ●ohn 2. 2. the appeasing of Gods vvrath and a full satisfaction to God for all my sinnes Secondly that b Galat. 5. 24. rom 6. 6. 7. 8. 11. as he is dead for sinne so he will cause sinne to dye in my mortall body PA. VVhat pro●it hast thou by the rysing againe of Christ TI. Firste I am assured by his rising againe from death that he hath c 1. Cor. 15. 55. 56. rom 8. 33. 34. rom 4. 25. ouercome death hel and sinne and hath finished my iustification Secondly that as he is risen from death so he causeth me as a member of him to d Rom. 6. 4. colos 1. 2. 3. rise from sinne and delight in righteousnesse Thirdly he rising againe by his own povver neuer to dye any more is a sure pledge to mee that e 1. Cor. 15. 16. 20. my body shall in like maner rise againe and be quickned in him for euer PA. VVhat is the meaning of this that Christ ascended into heauen TI. Christ as touching his manhoode is f Act. 1. 11. 3. 2. onely in heauen but in his g Math. 28. 20. Godhead and comfort of his hol● spirit he is with vs to the end of the world PA. VVhat good gettest thou by the ascending of Christ into heauen TI. First Christ his ascending into heauen is a su●e pledge vnto me that h Ioh. 14. 3. phil 3. 21. collos 3 4. 1. thes 4. 17. I shall in like maner as a mēber of him by his power be receiued into heauen in the same nature wherein he is ascended Secondly Christes ascension Iudgement Holy Ghost Catholique Church Christ hauing ascended into heauen maketh a Rom. 8. 34. heb 9. 24. 1. Ioh. 2. 1. 2. continuall intercession for me PA. VVhat is the meaning of this that Christ sitteth at the right hand of the Father TI. Christ sitteth at the right hand of the Father that is hath b Mat. 28. 18. ephe 1. 28. 21. 22. all power giuen him of the father ouer all things PA. VVhat fruit doest thou receiue by this that Christe shall come to iudge the quicke and the dead TI. To me that am a member of Christ it is a singular comfort c Math. 24. 31. 25 34. luk 21. 27. 28. 1. The. 1. 10. vvhen I knovve that none shal be my iudge but he that is my Sauiour but terrible it vvill be to those that flee from Christ d Math. 25. 41. luk 21. 25. 26. 2. Thes 1. 8. vvhen they shall see him come to iudge them vvhome they in their life time refused to be their Phisition and Sauiour PA. VVhat beleeuest thou concerning God the holy Ghost TI. I beleeue that God the holy Ghost dwelleth in my heart as the e Rom. 8. 9. 11. 15. 16. 17. gal 4. 6. eph 1. 17. 18. seale of mine election and persuadeth me that Christes benefits are all mine and vvorketh in me that I dye vnto f Eph 4. 23 24. collos 2. 11. 12. 13. sinne and liue vnto righteousnesse PA Nowe tell me vvhat callest thou the Catholique Church TI. The catholique Church is the g Rom. 8. 29. ephe 1. 10. 11. 12. math 16. 18. ioh 10. 16. vvhole company of true faithfull people vvhich euer were since the beginning of the world in all places vvhich also be novv and shall be to the ende of the vvorld of the vvhich number I beleeue that I am h Rom 8. 16. 2. cor●n 13. 5. one I beleeue that God i 2. Tim. 2. 19. knoweth them al and hath a moste tender care ouer them and that he hath and vvill Communion of Saints Forgiuenesse of sinnes Resurrection of the body take them all vnto his ●lory PA. VVhat callest thou the Communion of Saints TI. The communion of Saints is the societie that we vvhich beleeue haue vvith God through Christ Iesus and vvhich all we haue one vvith ano●her as a 1. Cor 12. 13 10. 17. eph 4. 15. 5. 30. col 1. 18. rom 12. 5. members of our head Iesus Christ vvhereby vve are b Luk. 11. 28. gal 6. 2 ph 2. 1. 2. 3. 4. ready to communicate al Gods benefites both spirituall and temporall to the mutuall helpe and comfort one of another according to the mea●ure of fayth which wee haue receyued of God in this life PA. VVhat is it to beleeue the forgyuenesse of Sinnes
vve doe expounde into the name that is to say into the Faith and confession of his name or into his possession povver iurisdiction or into the strength and povver or into the couenant grace of the father and the sonne and the holye spirite it is no matter for al this is true and agreeth vvith the nature of baptisme PA. Tell me must vve be nourished vvith spiritual meate and nouriture into eternal life and that by a spirituall manner agreeable to the spiritual birth Of regeneration life into the vvhich wee are regenerate by Baptisme TI. VVe are not regenerate in baptisme by anye corporall or materiall seede of the body and of the bloud of Iesus Christ nor by any naturall maner as vve are naturally begotten by our fathers and mothers a Rom. 6. 3. 1. pet 1. 18. 19. but that regeneration and newe byrth is vvrought by a seed incorruptible spirituall and diuine by the which we are begottē into the church by the vertue of the holy b Luk. 12. 12. iohn 3. 9. 8. 1. 33. 6. 63. 14. 17. 26. 1 cor 1● 4. 6. ghost by vvhom vve are regenerate into a nevv life PA. It is not also sayde that Iesus Christe doth giue his body his bloud in c Rom. 9. 3. 1. cor 12. 1● 13. ephes 4. 15. 16. 5. 30. gal 3. 27. baptisme as he doth in the supper Likevvise the vvater is not called therein the body and the bloud of Iesus Christe as Iesus Christ doth in the Supper call the breade and vvine by the name of them TI. Albeit that the vvater be not there called in baptisme by that name doest thou not thinke for all that that the body and bloud of Iesus Christ bee there distributed and d Mark 1. 4. iohn 3. 5. act ● 38. tit 3. 5. communicated vnto thee in the same as vvell as the Supper PA. I doe so vnderstand it TI. Thou vvilt then ordayne a baptisme vvithout Iesus Christ PA. VVherefore TI. Because thou canst not haue Iesus Christ except thou haue him vvholly and very God and very man and that thou haue true communion vvith his body and with his bloud not onely in the Supper but also in baptisme PA. Shew me the cause thereof TI. It is because that the baptisme doeth no Of Regeneration lesse send vs to the death and passion and to the body and bloud of Iesus Christ then doth the supper forasmuch as that is proper to all a Act 2 38 Rom. 6 34 1 Cor 10. 16 11 24 Gal 3. 27 1 pet 2 2● sacraments PA. Thou speakest as though baptisme and the supper were one very sacramente and that there were no difference betweene them TI. Not so for albeit we do as well participate of the bloud of Iesus Christ in baptisme as in the supper yet notwithstanding there is difference in the participating and in the manner ther●of in respect of the benefites of Iesus Christe which are signified and communicated vnto vs as wel in the one of the sacraments as in the other PA. Declare vnto me more easily that which thou now speakest of TI. Although the body of Iesus Christe bee not giuen vnto vs in baptisme as for spiritual foode as it is in the supper that notwithstanding it is there giuen vnto vs in very deede as b 1. Cor 6 15 12 27 Ephe 4 ●5 5 30. a garment of innocency iustice and holinesse to couer all our sinnes before God And therefore S. Paule say th that all those which are c Gal 3 27. Rom 6 3 4. 1. Pet 3 21 baptized haue put on them Iesus Christ PA. And of the bloud what sayest thou TI. Albeit that it be not giuen to vs in baptism as for drink as it is in the supper yet notwithstanding it is there giuen vnto vs for a spirituall washing of our soules and consciences whereby Iesus Christ doth d Act ●22 16 Ephe 5 26 Tit. 3 5 6. 1 Pet. 3 21 purify clense his Church in this lauer of regeneration to the end he may make it pure and cleane without spot or wrinckle and a holy glorious church PA. I did neuer yet so well vnderstande these Of the Lords Supper pointes TI. Hovve doest thou then novve vnderstande them PA. That euen as a garment or a cloake do serue to couer the body euen so doe the innocencie iustice and holinesse of Iesus Christ serue vs to couer our sinnes at the iudgement of God to the end that there appeare no one spot of them in his sight PA. And touching the bloud of Iesus Christ what thinkest thou TI. I thinke that the a Math 26 28. Ephe r 7 5 25 Gol 1 14 20 Tit 3 5 6 Apoc 1 5. bloud of Iesus Christe is called the washing of soules of consciences not as though they must be washed and dipped in the bloud of Iesus Christ as one would vvash and dip a body that he would wash and make cleane or some other such like thing but that the holy b Ioh. 3 5. Rom 8 15 16. Heb 9 14 10 22 goost speaketh so to giue vs to vnderstande that vvhich thou hast sayde to vvit vvhat the vvater of baptisme signifieth concerning the vvashing and purification of our soules and consciences in the bloud of Iesus Christ PA. VVhat is the Lords supper TI. The Lordes supper is the gathering together of the faithfull of Christ and the publike ministery of the new Testament in vvhich the Sacrament of the Lordes bodye and bloud is giuen and receiued according vnto the institution c Math 16 26 Luk 22 19 1 Cor. 11 24 26. of our Sauiour Christe by the misticall breaking of breade and the blessing of the Cuppe in the Communion of the church from his table and therewith the memory of the onely Sacrifice vvhich vvas d Heb 5. 6 7 26 9 11. 12 10 9 10. Rom 5 8. 6 10. 1. Cor 15 3 2 Cor 5 14. 1. Pet. 9. 18. ● once perfourmed for our saluation vpon the Altar of the Crosse The meaning of these wordes Hoc est corpus meum is celebrated vvith thankes giuing and the exercise a Math. 22. 39. rom 1. 3. of Christian loue PA. Hovv expoundest thou these vvordes Hoc est corpus meum TI. There can not be a more conuenient exposition then vvhen the Sacramentall vvordes bee Sacramentally expounded the proper properly the spirituall spiritually and the b 2. Corin. 2. 6. ioh 6. 56. 57. 7. 4. 56. rom 8. 11. 12. 12. 1. misticall mistically For the Sacramentall vvordes require none other meaning or interpretation then euen as they bee spoken but the maner of the thing vvhich is declared vttered in them is not propet but Sacramen tall for the which I doe say that c 1. Ioh. 2. 29. 3. 10 Sacramentes are Sacramentally to bee expounded as for example d Gen. 17. 10