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A86891 A second vindication of a disciplinary, anti-Erastian, orthodox free-admission to the Lords-Supper; or, The state of this controversie revised and proposed: for the fuller understanding of the most, as to the grounds whereon it stands; and more especially for the ease, and clearer proceeding of those, that shall write about it, whether for it, or against it. / By John Humfrey, min: of Froome. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1656 (1656) Wing H3710; Thomason E1641_2; ESTC R209066 63,290 161

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