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decay_n in_o he_o of_o faith_n nor_o of_o obedience_n nor_o of_o patience_n nor_o of_o love_n like_v as_o there_o be_v not_o in_o a_o man_n benumb_a &_o bind_v in_o his_o sense_n more_o than_o christ_n be_v namely_o in_o a_o man_n a_o sleep_n or_o amaze_v with_o a_o violent_a blow_n on_o the_o head_n for_o thus_o any_o reasonable_a man_n will_v have_v conceive_v i_o see_v who_o will_v imagine_v that_o i_o think_v christ_n now_o to_o be_v altogether_o so_o without_o sense_n as_o one_o that_o sleep_v or_o that_o lie_v in_o a_o swoon_n hereupon_o you_o ask_v i_o skoff_o 299._o pag._n 299._o a_o be_v christ_n a_o sleep_n or_o in_o a_o swoon_n b_o cast_v into_o a_o trance_n 120._o pag._n 120._o or_o c_o in_o a_o fit_a of_o a_o lethargy_n but_o what_o i_o do_v think_v of_o christ_n agony_n i_o have_v say_v before_o 121._o pag._n 121._o indeed_o as_o do_v you_o grant_v that_o amazednes_n and_o astonishment_n come_v natural_o from_o sorrow_n and_o fear_n and_o that_o 293._o pag._n 293._o 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have_v his_o mere_a infirmity_n all_o agreeable_a to_o god_n will_v but_o christ_n direct_o and_o proper_o glorify_v god_n in_o and_o by_o they_o more_o than_o can_v be_v utter_v i_o say_v in_o every_o point_n whatsoever_o of_o his_o humane_a infirmity_n and_o baseness_n whereunto_o he_o humble_v himself_o if_o it_o seem_v a_o hard_a phrase_n which_o in_o my_o former_a treatise_n i_o use_v say_v christ_n at_o this_o instant_n become_v forgetful_a of_o that_o which_o before_o he_o know_v my_o meaning_n be_v and_o so_o still_o i_o speak_v now_o he_o remember_v not_o he_o consider_v not_o which_o many_o time_n we_o use_v to_o name_v forget_v but_o indeed_o strict_o and_o proper_o it_o be_v
be_v not_o against_o christ_n own_o person_n but_o against_o the_o sin_n which_o by_o his_o office_n in_o his_o own_o person_n he_o sustain_v the_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n whereof_o touch_v his_o very_a person_n 2._o their_o punishment_n be_v partly_o in_o this_o life_n and_o partly_o eternal_a in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v but_o christ_n be_v temporary_a and_o only_a in_o this_o life_n 3._o their_o sin_n be_v inherent_a not_o forgive_v and_o just_o punish_v they_o have_v all_o the_o property_n and_o concomitant_n of_o sin_n inherent_a never_o forgive_v but_o in_o wrap_v in_o eternal_a punishment_n as_o these_o desperation_n the_o sting_n of_o conscience_n induration_n rejection_n malediction_n dereliction_n etc._n etc._n but_o in_o christ_n where_o no_o sin_n be_v inhaerent_a nor_o eternal_o punish_v there_o can_v utter_o be_v none_o of_o these_o 4._o they_o be_v pumish_v here_o &_o chief_o in_o hell_n the_o proper_a place_n of_o the_o damn_a hereafter_o but_o christ_n suffer_v only_o 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revenge_v sin_n in_o he_o so_o far_o as_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o therefore_o his_o punishment_n for_o that_o sin_n be_v a_o true_a proper_a &_o full_a punishment_n as_o they_o be_v namely_o as_o touch_v mere_a pain_n and_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n proper_a wrath_n justice_n and_o vengeance_n as_o well_o on_o his_o soul_n as_o on_o his_o body_n &_o thus_o for_o the_o time_n it_o be_v even_o like_a as_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o damn_a be_v 53.134_o âa_n 53.134_o for_o *_o continuance_n of_o time_n in_o pain_n be_v not_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o hell_n pain_n or_o of_o god_n wrath_n 341._o pag._n 341._o nor_o yet_o to_o be_v in_o hell_n local_o as_o you_o wrong_o imagine_v but_o mere_a circumstance_n there_o of_o only_o thus_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o punishment_n for_o sin_n be_v but_o the_o feel_n of_o extreme_a pain_n from_o god_n hand_n whether_o for_o a_o time_n or_o for_o ever_o whether_o local_o in_o hell_n or_o ell_n where_o that_o neither_o alter_v nor_o lessen_v the_o present_a pain_n which_o god_n own_o infinite_a wrathful_a power_n &_o justice_n can_v inflict_v for_o satisfaction_n where_o and_o how_o it_o please_v he_o these_o pain_n then_o to_o this_o end_n and_o in_o this_o very_a manner_n inflict_v christ_n feel_v indeed_o not_o be_v in_o the_o local_a hell_n yet_o those_o be_v as_o we_o see_v the_o self_n same_o pain_n for_o their_o nature_n which_o be_v in_o hell_n 247._o âag_n 247._o yea_o which_o be_v *_o sharp_a in_o hell_n and_o he_o discern_v and_o receive_v they_o proper_o yea_o only_o in_o his_o very_a soul_n as_o then_o be_v manefe_a when_o his_o body_n be_v so_o bruise_v with_o sorrow_n and_o suffering_n yet_o none_o at_o all_o then_o touch_v he_o without_o that_o there_o strain_a out_o from_o he_o much_o sweat_n of_o clot_a blood_n etc._n etc._n these_o thing_n be_v thus_o now_o let_v we_o see_v wherein_o you_o agree_v with_o we_o 248._o ãâã_d 248._o and_o wherein_o you_o disagree_v we_o all_o agree_v in_o term_n that_o christ_n suffer_v in_o soul_n god_n wrath_n howbeit_o touch_v the_o sense_n we_o disagree_v in_o 2._o main_a point_n qâââ_n the_o iâââ_n the_o qâââ_n i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n suffer_v god_n proper_a wrath_n and_o vengeance_n you_o mean_v he_o suffer_v only_o such_o affliction_n as_o other_o godly_a man_n do_v suffer_v at_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o cruel_a world_n for_o 1â_n for_o pa._n 1â_n you_o think_v all_o affliction_n whatsoever_o small_a or_o great_a &_o towards_o whosoever_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o god_n wrath._n but_o that_o be_v not_o so_o except_o in_o a_o most_o unproper_a speech_n to_o the_o godly_a their_o affliction_n both_o small_a and_o great_a be_v god_n fatherly_a and_o gracious_a chastisement_n and_o no_o effect_n of_o his_o proper_a wrath_n as_o shall_v appear_v further_o hereafter_o howbeit_o you_o must_v observe_v here_o my_o 3._o limitation_n which_o i_o set_v down_o in_o the_o beforâ_n the_o beforâ_n quaestion_a 1._o i_o mean_v he_o 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on_o wââââgain_o saââ_n christ_n ââred_v iâââ_n only_a ãâã_d from_o hiâ_n but_o this_o be_v far_o great_a than_o as_o you_o hold_v that_o he_o suffer_v no_o more_o but_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n that_o be_v in_o his_o soul_n by_o &_o from_o his_o body_n this_o be_v your_o drift_n every_o where_o but_o i_o note_v these_o express_a place_n 16._o ââg_v 16._o *_o sin_n which_o shall_v have_v wrought_v in_o we_o a_o eternal_a destruction_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n can_v not_o far_o prevail_v in_o he_o but_o to_o the_o wound_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o shed_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o just_a &_o full_a satisfaction_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n even_o in_o the_o righteous_a and_o sincere_a judgement_n of_o god_n likewise_o your_o general_a title_n be_v the_o full_a redemtion_n of_o mankind_n
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in_o respect_n of_o his_o infinite_a pain_n he_o may_v 14.35_o mar._n 14.35_o c_o this_o hour_n can_v not_o be_v refer_v to_o his_o holy_a and_o righteous_a affection_n which_o be_v at_o all_o hour_n and_o season_n in_o he_o without_o measure_n holy_a yet_o now_o at_o his_o death_n do_v not_o so_o express_o break_v out_o &_o show_v themselves_o appear_v nor_o as_o his_o âaines_n do_v appear_v as_o they_o do_v at_o divers_a time_n before_o therefore_o this_o hour_n can_v not_o be_v these_o his_o holy_a affection_n his_o pain_n &_o affliction_n they_o do_v may_v be_v and_o must_v be_v 33._o âoh_o 12.27_o ââmpar_n with_o ãâã_d 33._o neither_o thus_o stand_v it_o with_o his_o piety_n to_o wish_v that_o his_o strong_a and_o vehement_a affection_n of_o holiness_n shall_v pass_v from_o he_o or_o be_v weaken_v in_o he_o for_o my_o part_n i_o can_v see_v no_o sense_n nor_o sap_n in_o these_o assertion_n even_o so_o likewise_o in_o that_o 21._o âag_n 21._o where_o you_o ascribe_v to_o this_o his_o c_o deep_a sorrow_n of_o zeal_n for_o man_n sin_n his_o sweat_a blood_n in_o his_o agony_n above_o nature_n after_o a_o strange_a and_o marvellous_a manner_n i_o dare_v say_v you_o deliver_v strange_a mervayle_n in_o divinity_n the_o five_o cause_n f_o you_o say_v 21._o âag_n 21._o may_v be_v the_o cup_n of_o god_n wrath_n temper_v &_o make_v ready_a for_o the_o sin_n of_o man_n which_o you_o interpret_v to_o be_v g_o eternal_a malediction_n 22._o pag._n 22._o touch_v which_o you_o say_v christ_n know_v what_o our_o sin_n deserve_v may_v intentive_o pray_v to_o have_v that_o cup_n pass_v from_o he_o which_o be_v prepare_v for_o us._n for_o we_o who_o mean_v you_o the_o elect_n or_o the_o reprobat_fw-la what_o malediction_n the_o whole_a &_o absolute_a pain_n thereof_o only_o or_o the_o eternity_n of_o the_o continuance_n thereof_o also_o for_o so_o the_o reprobat_n do_v suffer_v it_o if_o you_o mean_v the_o elect_n 294._o as_o you_o aflame_a most_o evange_o pa._n ââ2_n 133._o 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christ_n bloudshead_n be_v to_o signify_v that_o martyr_n shall_v shed_v their_o blood_n what_o reason_n have_v we_o so_o to_o think_v or_o that_o his_o blood_n head_n shall_v signify_v the_o purge_n of_o his_o disciple_n heart_n from_o sin_n yea_o or_o of_o all_o his_o church_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n it_o do_v not_o signify_v this_o but_o it_o do_v it_o in_o deed_n last_o if_o it_o have_v thâse_a signification_n in_o it_o yet_o withal_o his_o agony_n may_v rise_v from_o his_o very_a pain_n &_o fear_v come_v from_o the_o present_a sense_n of_o god_n justice_n and_o wrath_n now_o reveal_v and_o work_v upon_o he_o hitherto_o we_o have_v make_v it_o manifest_v that_o in_o truth_n you_o have_v nothing_o in_o all_o these_o word_n against_o our_o doctrine_n that_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n be_v the_o true_a and_o proper_a cause_n of_o christ_n dreadful_a agony_n nor_o to_o prove_v that_o his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n or_o death_n be_v the_o whole_a cause_n now_o we_o be_v to_o show_v the_o 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but_o his_o godhead_n as_o it_o be_v withdraw_v and_o hide_v itself_o from_o he_o for_o that_o season_n of_o his_o passion_n give_v he_o no_o sense_n nor_o feeling_n of_o ease_n comfort_n or_o joy_n but_o all_o the_o sense_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n as_o well_o in_o spirit_n as_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n that_o may_v be_v all_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o joy_n and_o comfort_n for_o the_o while_n be_v clean_o go_v and_o whole_o swallow_v up_o in_o that_o huge_a &_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n issue_v upon_o he_o out_o from_o the_o fierce_a wrath_n of_o god_n howbeit_o yet_o even_o now_o he_o want_v not_o sufficient_a assistance_n of_o the_o deity_n to_o sustain_v he_o in_o life_n herein_o as_o i_o say_v 16.17_o phil._n 2.7_o rom._n 8.32_o âeut_fw-fr 10_o 17._o ââc_n 16.17_o this_o be_v that_o extreme_a humiliation_n and_o exinanition_n of_o nature_n wherein_o â _o god_n spare_v not_o his_o son_n and_o wherein_o also_o christ_n spare_v not_o himself_o for_o he_o undertake_v all_o this_o most_o willing_o and_o yet_o be_v in_o it_o natural_o grieve_v and_o sorrow_v for_o it_o &_o at_o some_o moment_n be_v astonish_v with_o it_o sudden_o and_o natural_o desire_a ease_n and_o release_v from_o it_o this_o forsake_v or_o dereliction_n beseem_v the_o time_n place_n person_n and_o case_n of_o christ_n our_o ransompayer_n and_o purchaser_n of_o salvation_n with_o the_o price_n of_o his_o own_o most_o direful_a pain_n âââisse_n pag._n 24._o &c_n &c_n âââr_v 6._o exposition_n of_o christ_n conââaint_v be_v all_o âââisse_n not_o any_o other_o far_o fetch_v or_o hardly_o apply_v or_o strange_o devise_v by_o the_o brain_n of_o man_n as_o in_o truth_n all_o those_o other_o sense_n hereof_o be_v which_o you_o rather_o embrace_v
sense_n it_o be_v that_o the_o reprobate_n and_o the_o elect_a after_o death_n be_v say_v to_o be_v together_o 28.19_o âân_fw-la 28.19_o a_o to_o morrow_n thou_o &_o thy_o son_n shall_v be_v with_o we_o say_v the_o suppose_a samuel_n to_o saul_n not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o positive_a thing_n common_a to_o the_o elect_a and_o reprobate_n after_o death_n which_o b_o you_o observe_v well_o 209._o ââg_v 396._o ãâã_d simpââli_n ââqaest_a 3._o ââg_n 209._o but_o only_a that_o they_o be_v alike_o dead_a and_o alike_o remain_v in_o death_n yet_o i_o say_v they_o be_v not_o like_o any_o further_a this_o c_o aust_n very_o well_o show_v who_o you_o do_v bring_v say_v he_o mortuus_fw-la mortem_fw-la vivo_fw-la proenuntiabat_fw-la hadea_n father_n ãâã_d it_o i_o our_o ãâã_d of_o hadea_n that_o be_v be_v dead_a he_o foreshow_v death_n to_o he_o that_o yet_o live_v so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o condition_n of_o death_n both_o to_o saul_n and_o samuel_n but_o not_o the_o same_o fruition_n 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est_fw-la sheol_n ãâã_d hades_n mors_fw-la victoria_fw-la vel_fw-la contentio_fw-la tua_fw-la vbi_fw-la est_fw-la mors_fw-la aculeus_fw-la tuus_fw-la verbum_fw-la autem_fw-la hoc_fw-la creatoris_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la prophetam_fw-la it_o be_v write_v by_o the_o creator_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o victory_n or_o thy_o force_n or_o strife_n death_n where_o be_v thy_o sting_n this_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n god_n by_o the_o prophet_n ozee_n still_o he_o make_v hades_n &_o sheol_n nothing_o else_o but_o death_n in_o these_o place_n and_o say_v he_o deo_fw-la gratias_fw-la dicit_fw-la â_o dicit_fw-la 1_o cor._n â_o apostolus_fw-la quod_fw-la nobis_fw-la victoriam_fw-la utique_fw-la de_fw-la morte_fw-la prestitit_fw-la the_o apostle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n apply_v word_n of_o the_o prophet_n to_o the_o resurrection_n give_v thanks_o to_o god_n because_o he_o cause_v we_o to_o get_v a_o victory_n indeed_o of_o death_n so_o still_o he_o make_v hades_n to_o be_v death_n and_o not_o hell_n which_o yet_o be_v further_o most_o clear_o to_o be_v see_v pââ_n see_v de_fw-fr idol_n cap._n 13_o ãâã_d see_v also_o ãâã_d before_o pââ_n lazarus_n apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la in_o sinû_fw-fr abrahae_fw-la refrigerium_fw-la consecutus_fw-la etc._n etc._n lazarus_n in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a enjoy_v comfort_n in_o abraham_n bosom_n contrariwise_o the_o rich_a man_n be_v in_o the_o torment_n of_o fire_n both_o of_o they_o there_o receive_v their_o divers_a reward_n how_o clear_a be_v this_o that_o he_o make_v hades_n and_o inferos_fw-la even_o in_o a_o luke_n also_o 16.23_o âââe_z 16.23_o to_o be_v nothing_o but_o the_o common_a state_n and_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a whereupon_o the_o learned_a junius_n note_v thus_o observandum_fw-la autem_fw-la quod_fw-la ait_fw-la apud_fw-la jnferos_fw-la etiam_fw-la de_fw-la lazaro_n nam_fw-la inferos_fw-la latini_n patres_fw-la ut_fw-la graeci_fw-la haden_n pro_fw-la omni_fw-la loco_fw-la aut_fw-la statû_fw-fr mortuorum_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la promiscuè_fw-fr atque_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la sensum_fw-la lazarus_n &_o dives_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la collocantur_fw-la 55._o ãâã_d before_o âââg_v 162._o âââm_v de_fw-fr âit_n ãâã_d anima_fw-la ãâã_d 55._o quomodo_n b_o irenaeus_n &_o c_o chrysostomus_n ex_fw-la verbis_fw-la luc._n 16.23_o locuti_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o tertullÃanus_fw-la locis_fw-la quamplurimis_fw-la this_o therefore_o it_o be_v that_o tertullian_n say_v in_o another_o place_n d_o constituimus_fw-la omnem_fw-la animam_fw-la apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la sequestrari_fw-la in_o diem_fw-la iudicij_fw-la we_o determine_v that_o every_o man_n soul_n be_v keep_v apart_o in_o the_o world_n of_o the_o dead_a till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o be_v all_o soul_n they_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o death_n penes_fw-la inferos_fw-la will_v you_o will_v you_o there_o you_o shall_v find_v punishment_n and_o comfort_n as_o in_o lazarus_n and_o the_o rich_a man_n for_o why_o 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