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A36405 The dangers of new discipline to the state and church discovered fit to be considered by them who seeke, as they tearme it, the reformation of the Church of England composed by a Trve Protestant, a loyall subject, a loving fellow member of the Common-wealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland ... True Protestant, a loyall subject, a loving fellow member of the Common-wealth of England, Scotland and Ireland. 1642 (1642) Wing D199; ESTC R1376 17,359 37

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infinite so that scarcely was there found any one of them the forge of whose braine was not possest with some speciall mystery pag. 135. Whereupon although their mutuall contentions were most fiercely prosecuted among themselves yet when they came to defend the common cause common to them all against the Adversaries of their factions they had wayes to lick one another whole the sounder in his owne perswasion excusing The deare Brethren pag. 25. which were not so farre enlightned and professing a charitable hope of the mercy of God towards them notwithstanding their swarving from him in some things pag. 71. Their owne Ministers they highly magnifyed as men whose vocation was from God the rest pag. 124. their manner was disdainfully to terme Scribes and Pharisees to accompt their calling an humane creature and to detaine the people as much as might be from hearing of them pag. 764. As touching Baptisme administred in the Church of Rome they judged to be an execrable mockery and no Baptisme both because the Ministers thereof in the Papacy are wicked Idolaters lewd persons Theeves and Murderers cursed creatures ignorant beasts and also that for to baptize is a proper action belonging unto none but the Church of Christ whereas Rome is Antichrists Synagogue pag. 748. The custome of using God-fathers and God-mothers at Christnings they scorned Baptizing of Infants pag. 512. although confest by themselves to have been continued even sithence the very Apostles owne times yet they altogether condemned partly pag. 518. because sundry errours are of no lesse antiquity pag. 722. and partly because there is no commandement in the Gospell of Christ which saith Baptize Infants but he contrariwise saying Goe preach and Baptize doth appoint that the Minister of Baptisme shall in that action first administer doctrine and then Baptisme as also in saying whosoever doth believe and is Baptized pag. 688. he appointeth that the person to whom Baptisme is administred shall first beleeve and then be Baptized to the end that beleeving may goe before this Sacrament in the receiver no otherwise then preaching in the giver sith equally in both the law of Christ declareth not only what things are required but also in what order they are required pag. 38. The Eucharist they received pretending our Lord and Saviours example after Supper and for avoyding all those impieties which have beene grounded upon the mysticall words of Christ This is my body this is my bloud they thought it not safe to mention either body or blood in that Sacrament pag. 122. but rather to abrogate both and to use no words but these Take eat declare the death of our Lord Drinke shew forth our Lords death In Rites and Ceremonies their profession was hatred of all conformity with the Church of Rome for which cause they would rather endure any torment then observe the solemne festivalls which others did in asmuch as Antichrist they said was the first Inventor of them 10. The pretended end of their Civill Reformation was that Christ might have dominion over all that all Crownes and Scepters might bee throwne downe at his feet that no other might raigne over Christian men but he no Regiment keep them in awe but his discipline amongst them no sword at all to be carried besides his the sword of Spirituall Excommunication For this cause they laboured withall their might in overturning the Seates of Magistracy because Christ hath said pag. 841. Kings of Nations in abolishing the execution of Iustice because Christ hath said resist not evill in forbidding Oathes the necessary meanes of Iudiciall Tryall because Christ hath said Sweare not at all finally pag. 849. in bringing in community of goods because Christ by his Apostles hath given the World such example to the end that men might excell one another not in wealth the pillar of secular authority but in vertue 11. These men at the first were only pittied in their errour and not much withstood by any pag. 40. the great humility zeale and devotion which appeared to bee in them was in all mens opinion a pledge of their harmlesse meaning The hardest that men of sound Iudgement conceived of them was but this Lactant. O quàm honestâ voluntate miseri errant with how good a meaning these poore soules doe evill Luther made request unto Frederick Duke of Saxony that within his dominion they might be favourably dealt with and spared Just lib. 5. cap. 19. for that their errour exempted they seemed otherwise right good men By meanes of which mercifull toleration they gathered strength pag. 6. much more then was safe for the state of the Common-wealth wherein they lived They had their secret corner-meetings and assemblies in the night the people flocked unto them by thousands The means whereby they both allured and retained so great multitudes were most effectuall Pag. 4. 20. first a wonderfull shew of zeale towards God Pag. 55. wherewith they seemed to bee even rapt in every thing they spake Secondly an hatred of sinne and a singular love of integrity which men did thinke to be much more then ordinary in them by reason of the Custome which they had to fill the eares of the people with invectives against their authorized Guids aswell Spirituall as Civill Thirdly the bountyfull releife wherewith they eased the broken estate of such needy Creatures as were in that respect the more apt to be drawne away Fourthly a tender Compassion which they were thought to take upon the miseries of the Common sort over whose heads their manner was Pag. 6. 7. even to powre downe showrs of teares complaining that no respect was had unto them that their goods were devoured by wicked Cormorants their persons had in contempt all liberty both temporall and spirituall taken from them that it was high time for god now to heare their groanes and to send them deliverance Lastly a cunning slight which they had to stroake and smooth up the minds of their followers as well by appropriating unto them all the favourable Titles the good words and the gratious promisies in Scripture as also by casting the contrary alwaies on the heads of such as were severred from that retinue Whereupon the Peoples common acclamations unto such deceivers was These are verely the men of God these are his true and sincere Prophets If any such Prophet or man of God did suffer by order of law condigne and deserved punishment were it for Fellony Rebellion Murder or what else the people so strangely were their hearts inchanted as though blessed Saint Stephen had bene againe Martyred Pag. 27. did lament that God tooke away his most deare servants from them 12. In all things beeing fully perswaded that what they did it was Obedience to the will of God and that all men should doe the like there remained after speculation practise whereby the whole world thereunto if it were possible might be framed