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A32862 The memory of the righteous revived being a brief collection of the books and written epistles of John Camm & John Audland, those two faithful and honourable servants of the Lord, who were called to the work of the ministry in the morning of Gods blessed day dawned in this generation, and, with other brethren, bore the heat and burden of the day faithfully, to the end and finishing of their course, being entered into the joy of their Lord : together with several testimonies relating to those two faithful labourers / published for the service of truth and friends, by Thomas Camm & Charles Marshal. Camm, John, 1604?-1656.; Audland, John, 1630-1664.; Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.; Marshall, Charles, 1637-1698. 1689 (1689) Wing C390; ESTC R22076 130,282 441

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quick Apprehension and great understanding of a noble Spirit yet in humility condescending to serve the least in Truth his Company was exceeding delightful and pleasant being always cheerful his discourse good and tending to Edification exceeding ripe in the Knowledge of the holy Scriptures and of a strong Memory he was often concerned in Disputations with Priests and other Opposers of the Way of Truth that he bore Testimony too and walked in and the Lord had richly furnished him for that Service to the stopping the Mouthes of Gain-sayers to Truths honour his Declaration and Testimony exceeding large free and affecting almost to all sorts of People many with great delight would flock to hear him in many places which made his Service very great in opening the way of Truth unto all he having a Word in season to all Conditions insomuch that he regarded not his outward Body but many times went beyond the natural strength thereof notwithstanding that he was young and strong yet in this Service was much spent several Years before he departed and laid down his Head. His Life was bound up in the Unity and Fellowship of Friends and Brethren his Labour was ever to conserve the same and prevent whatever would appear to divide As he was honourable in the esteem of Thousands that the Lord through him had called and brought many of them to the Knowledge of the way of Life and Salvation so also had he a right honourable esteem of such as were in Christ before him and especially dear George Fox by whom he was Convinced He was very tender to the springings of Life in Testimony in the least Babe always ready to encourage and give place to the same for it was his great Joy to see the Lord's Work to prosper and the Testimony of Truth to spring in every Bosom In Counsel and Advice he was endewed with heavenly Wisdom beyond many in reproving the Careless and Rebellious he was sharp and powerful In fine I have this to say that he was abundantly furnished with spiritual Gifts a chosen and honourable Vessel in the Hand of his God to the Praise and Glory of his eternal Name Many comfortable daies and times have I enjoyed with him whom I loved and honoured in the Lord and I am not unsensible of his Love to me our Hearts being perfectly united and knit together in that love that 's everlasting passing the love of Women I never thought Travel hard or tedious at any time so that I might enjoy his Company in which I was always delighted greatly satisfied whatever difficulty soever I under-went to obtain the same After he was first called forth into the Work and Service of the Lord he was very diligent therein almost in continual Travels and several times was in Prison for his Testimonies sake as at New-Castle in the North and Bristol often in great Perils in the beginning having many rough places to break through where many times he Suffered sore Beatings and many Strokes together with cruel Mockings Revilings and Scornings from the wicked Rabble often and sometimes from angry bitter-spirited Professors through and over all which the Lord preserved him to his own Glory to inherit a Kingdom that 's everlasting for he counted nothing dear unto him for the Gospels sake but left his dear Wife and Child whom he loved entirely and Trade and all to follow the Lord Jesus Christ the Captain of Salvation having an eye to the eternal recompence of Reward that the Lord hath given him fully to enjoy His dear Wife was not long after him called forth into the same Work and Service and Travelled into several Parts of the North Countrey and after into the South where at Banbury in Oxford-shire she was a Prisoner for one Year and several Months the Lord making her instrumental in his Hand to the turning many from Darkness to Light in that place and many other places where she Travelled When J. A. did grow weaker by his lingering Distemper of a sore Cough his Lungs wasting he would often complain of an inward soreness in his Breast though he seemed to look well being of a Ruddy and fair Complexion and would often say Ah! those great Meetings in the Orchard at Bristol I may not forget I would so gladly have spread my Net over all and have gathered all that I forgot my self never considering the imability of my Body but it s well my reward is with me and I am content to give up and be with the Lord for that my Soul values above all things Betwixt two and three weeks before he died he was taken as was supposed with an hective Feaver and daily it encreased upon him so that his sleep for many days and nights was taken from him in which time I was often with him being his desire and my delight to serve him in which time Friends in abundance flocked to visit him from several parts for as I said before he was a man greatly beloved of the Lord and all his People yea many of the World had a good esteem of and loved him and many times the Lord did wonderfully open his Mouth in Testimony to Friends as if he had been without sence of his Sickness to their great refreshment and exceeding joy and often he would be raised upon his Knecs upon his Bed and supplicate the Lord in the behalf of his whole Heritage and to prosper his Work in the Nation and Nations round about he said that there was nothing in all the World that he desired to live to enjoy except the comfortable enjoyment of his Friends and Brethren in the fellowship of the Life of Truth and that he might be a comfort to his dearly beloved Wife whose desolate condition he often bemoaned being so big with Child as that she was delivered of a Son about ten days after his decease but in this he said his will was in true subjection submitting to the Will of the Lord whether life or death to God he often and again committed and recommended all the whole Flock Heritage and Family of God together with his dear Wife and Child to be kept cared for and preserved saying that he would be a Husband to his desolate Widow and a tender Father to his fatherless Children often entreating his dear Wife freely to give him up to the Will and disposing of the Almighty whose he was being made acceptable in the beloved Son often sweetly comforting her in her Sorrow and great Distress making as little shew of his illness for her sake as ever he might yet we saw that he was under a great weight of Sickness and that his strength daily wasted so that in less then three weeks time after the Feaver took him he finished here and was sweetly taken to rest in the joy of the Lord for ever more it being the day of the first Month 1663. and the next day was accompanied to his Grave by many Friends and others and his Body enterred in the
Servants of the Lord Jesus having received the everlasting Gospel from the Angel of Gods presence to Preach in the demonstration of his Mighty Power with which indeed they were filled John Camm was an Ancient man full of Zeal and Fervency in the Gospel endued with the precious Gift of discerning and sound Judgment terrible to the man of Sin and full of bowels and tenderness to the travelling Souls Sharp and terrible to the evil but sweet and Friendly to the tender and well inclined unto the way of Righteousness not sparing his weak body which he offered up even unto Death to serve the Lord God in his blessed work of gathering which he saw in a plentiful manner to his great satisfaction a farther Testimony of him as to his Country Life Travels and Death is given by his dear Wife and Thomas Camm his Son and his Wife to which I refer His memory is blessed and his place is among the living Ancients in Jerusalem John Audland was a younger man of a sweet ruddy and amiable Countenance and of a chearful Spirit one of the Wise in heart filled with the excellent bright sparking glorious Power of the Lord God everlasting in which he appeared many times so filled that immortallity shined in his Face and his Voice was as Thunder therein dreadful in the Strengh of the Lord of Hosts against the man of Sin and those in Covenant therewith terrible in the dread of God against the Workers of iniquity but livingly tender to the sensible Travellers and poor in spirit Ah! my Soul hath a sensible remembrance how the Doctrine given him of Christ Jesus dropt as dew and sweetly descended as the refreshing Rain He was a Labourer indeed Night and Day in the Labour of the Gospel in which he extreamly spent himself and his fervent and unexpressible Travells in and about the City of Bristol I am well satisfied laid a Foundation for the wasting his natural Life which was spent and offered up for the Truth and in the work of it and indeed he with dear honourable John Camm was instrumental in the Hand of the Almighty God of our Gatherings and the spending their lives and strength was most in their Labours and Travels amongst us in the City and adjacent parts of which I was an eye and ear witness being with them frequently These two faithful Ministers of Christ Jesus came to the City of Bristol in the 5th Month 1654. and first they came amongst a seeking people who kept one day in the week in fasting and praying waiting for and breathing in Spirit after the Morning and Visitation of of God and Day of Redemption and amongst us they spoke the powerful Word of Life in the dread of his Name that lives forever and we were seized on and smitten even to the Heart and that Day and the Visitation of it over took us which we had longed and waited for and from Darkness to the marvellous Light of the Lord we were turned Some Meetings we had before the more general gathering in and about that City which began on this wise On a first day in the morning I went with these two Servants of God about a mile and half from the City to a little spring of Water where I often had spent many Solitary hours in my tender years seeking the Lord where we sat some time and drank of the spring After some hours of the morning were spent I saw in them a great travel in Spirit Trembling J. A. said let us be going into the City so we came to the Street called Broadmead to a house where were several People met together enquiring after these two men of God. John Audland was under a great exercise of Spirit and said Is here any one that has any interest in any Field An ancient man said I have in a Field prety near notice being given to the People in the house they came forth and as we went along people in the Streets went also to the Field called Earls-mead so that we came a pretty number where some Seats or Stools were brought Dear John Camm began to speak renderly and in great Zeal directing to the heavenly Grace of God and ●estifying against Sin and Iniquity fervently to which some were attentive in this season I perceived a great exercise of Spirit on my dear Friend and Father in Christ Jesus J. Audland who very much trembled After dear John Camm stood down he stood up full of dread and shining brightness on his countenance lifted up his Voice as a Trumpet and said I proclaim spiritual War with the Inhabitants of the Earth who are in the Fall and Seperation from God and Prophesie to the sour winds of Heaven and these words dropt amongst the Seed and so went on in the mighty Power of God Almighty opening the way of Life But ah the seizings of Souls and prickings at heart which attended that season some fell on the Ground others crying out under the sence of opening their States which indeed gave experimental Knowledge of what is recorded acts 2. 37. Indeed it was a notable day worthy to be left on Record that our Children may read and tell to their Children and theirs to another Generation that the worthy noble Acts of the Arm of Gods Salvation may be remembred which have been the way of the Lord leading his Servants through Generations c. At this Meeting many were effectually convinced and from Darkness to Light turned after which our Meetings grew larger and larger They visited the Meetings of them called Independants and Baptists testifying amongst them in great power the things given them of God directing the poor and needy in spirit that saw their want of the Lord Jesus Christ no longer to seek the Living amongst the Dead but look from the Mountains and Hills dead Ways and Worships unto Christ Jesus the Foundation of Life and Salvation and there was added unto the gathering daily and great dread was round about and in our Meetings under the seasonings of the holy Ghost Oh! the Tears Sighs and Groans Tremblings and Mournings in the sight of the middle will of partition that we saw then in our awakened States that stood between us and the Lord and in the sight and sense of our spiritual wants and necessities Oh! the hungrings and thirstings of Soul that attended daily and great travels of Spirit to obtain through the working of the mighty Power of Gods dominion and Spiritual Victory over the Enemy of our Souls who had lead us in the Paths of Death and Darkness and indeed as the Visits of Gods holy and ever blessed Day was signal and unexpressible as aforesaid so I Testifie in the fear and dread and awe of God Almighty we received the Gospel with a ready mind and with broken Hearts and affected Spirits and gave up to follow the Lord fully casting off the weights and burdens and the Sin that easily besets and from the evil ways and vanities of this
you in the Blood of his Son and made you a kind of first Fruits unto God to walk up to the Praise and Glory of his Name who hath called you where your strength and rest is forever And therefore all dear Brethern and Sisters in the Eternal Covenant of Life stand fast unmoveable unshaken in the Rock of Ages which never changes but abides for evermore there is your Shield and there is your Refuge there is your Castle where the Enemy cannot storm you nor the wild Beasts devour you in the living Measure of the living God where the living is refreshed with the fresh Streams which flows out from the Eternal Fountain of Love which refresheth the City of God which City you are as you abide in your Measures for you are the Temples of the Holy Ghost but if any Man defile his Temple him will God destroy for no unclean thing can dwell with him And therefore I exhort you all that you be faithful to the Measure of Light which is pure it being the guide of your minds will lead you out of all impurity and uncleanness for he that is the Light is the Messenger of the Covenant and by his Light shining in you he is come into his Temple to sit as a Refiner and as a Fuller to purifie the Sons of Levi. Now the Light which comes from Christ Jesus being the guide of all your minds leads you up into Unity with him from whence the Light comes and there we are one for evermore and cannot be separated Now the Light shining in the Conscience it maks manifest all the dark ways and rips up Man and discovers all deceit and judges it so that which lies betwixt the Light which shines in the Conscience and the Soul comes to be judged and cast out and so the dead comes to hear the Voice and the Graves comes to be opened and the quickning Spirit to be witnessed and the Light and the Soul comes to be joyned and here the Lord comes to be praised by the living for its the living that praises him for the dead and they that go down into the Pit cannot praise him and all they who are in death who knows not Redemption by the Light to them this is a Mystery and the sealed Book that neither the Learned nor unlearned can read in the disobedient and dark nature which is shut out from God forever but to you who follow the Lamb in the Regeneration through the Tribulation this to you is unsealed and you are made witnesses of the Sufferings and Death and Resurrection of Christ in you which is the hope of your Glory and to you it is given to know the Mysteries but to others it is a Parable and must not be revealed to them for blessed be the Name of the Lord it cannot be known but in the pure Life as it s lived in and here the wisdom of the wise is confounded and the Counsel of the Prudent is brought to nought by the Eternal Counsel and Wisdom of our God Glory to his Name for evermore And now my dear Brethren and Sisters as one with you in the Eternal Covenant of Life according to the Measure of Grace received from God I write unto you as a Brother and a Servant of the living God having received the like precious faith with you I say I write unto you to stir up your pure minds or to put you in remembrance of the Grace of God to you as one who desires the good of your Souls as my own and the recovery of the Image of God and am a Sufferer with you for the Seeds sake but waits in Patience until the day of deliverance of it from the bondage of Captivity which the Lord is bringing to pass in this his day of Power and now Death and Hell must give up their Dead for Death is now come to be swallowed up of Victory and all who abide faithful to the end shall witness the Sting of Death taken away the which in measure I witness and now wait ready to be offered up being in weakness of the outward Body but in much peace and quiet in the inward praised be the Lord forever and not knowing that I shall ever see your Faces any more in the outward but steadfastly believes to meet you and to be joyned to you in the Unity of the Body whereof Christ Jesus is our Head where the Bond of peace and love is kept and where all Sorrows and Troubles is done away and for this cause was I moved to write unto you these few Lines as an Epistle to be read and witnessed in the Hearts where you may read me continually in the Measure of God which is but one in which we own know and read one another where the World knows us not And now to the Lord God and to the Word of his Grace I commit you which is able to keep you and preserve you pure and spotless and undefiled and will present you blameless unto the Lord if you abide in it and will give you an inheritance amongst them that are Sanctified and therefore be faithful unto the end for he that endures unto the end shall be saved but he that turns back my Soul taketh no pleasure in him saith the Lord and therefore bold and valient be for the Truth upon Earth following the Captain of our Salvation Christ Jesus the high Priest of our Profession who endured the Cross and despised the shame and sate down at the right Hand of God the Father forever and hath led Captivity Captive and hath given to us the Comforter the Spirit of Truth which the World cannot receive but leads us into all Truth who are giuded by it and is the Worlds condemnation This lay upon me to write unto you being weak upon my Bed in Compassion and love to all your Souls who desires the Growth of every Plant of my Heavenly Fathers planting that they may bring forth Fruit to the Glory of his Grace for herein is he glorified that ye bring forth much Fruit So in the Eternal unchangable ever living and never failing Love of God in that I bid you all farewel And in that am I knit and united unto you and death cannot be able to separate us for in that Love there is Union for evermore and so I subscribe yours in that and known to the World by the Name John Camm This was given forth at Bristol when he lay in great weakness upon his Bed on the Year 1665. John Audlands and John Cam's Letters To all dear Friends who love the Light in about Bristol Dear Friends YOu whose minds are turned towards God by the pure Light of God to wait upon the Lord in his Fear Grace Mercy and Peace from God be multiplyed in you and amongst you that you may grow and abound in the pure Life of God growing up every one of you in particular in your own measure having your minds stayed upon the Lord to
of the great Travel that was upon them because of the mighty Power of the Lord which was made manifest in them for the bringing down of that which had been exalted against him and for the restoration of the oppressed Captive that deliverance might be known from the power of Satan and from the bondage of Corruption that we being set free wherein we were held might serve the Lord in Truth and Singleness of Heart and wait upon him and follow the leadings of his Spirit in the exercise of our Hearts and minds in Serving and Worshiping the Lord our God And so the God of Heaven hath revealed and made manifest the Way of Life and Peace the Way wherein Comfort and Satisfaction to the Soul is found the Gate of Mercy even the entrance to the everlasting Kingdom of Rest and Joy for evermore which although it be strait and narrow and a cross to the fleshly part and earthly ground and wisdom yet it is easie pleasent and delightful living in the Spirit and becoming little even as a Child for so must he become that enters in at the strait Gate to eat of the Tree of Life which is in the midst of the Paradise of God So we have found the way of everlasting Peace through the rich Mercy and tender Visitation of the Lord walking in the Spirit and living in that which mortifies the deeds of the Flesh being subject to the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ Here is rest to the Soul here is the sweet Visitations of the Lord known which are as the former and latter Rain to refresh the lowly in Heart and Poor in Spirit Here waiting upon the Lord the strength is renewed and here the Lord speaks Peace to People even as they are in Christ the Power of God growing up in him who is the Truth and the Life they are possessors of lasting Peace which God speaks not to the wicked which is the Portion of the upright in Heart and as the Lord hath made manifest the way of Peace Life and everlasting Happiness he hath also discovered the contrary even the way of misery darkness and destruction the way which is broad and many in the lusts of the Flesh take pleasure in it following the motions of the Flesh and the desires of the carnal mind resisting the motions of Gods good Spirit and hating the blessed Light of the Lord Jesus Christ and so spend away their precious time and in this state that is to say in the Flesh resisting the Spirit of the Lord they cannot serve God nor please him nor worship him in Truth though they may profess him in words and draw near him with their Mouth yet being in the Flesh contrary to the Spirit of Truth the Ear turned away from hearing of God's Law their Prayers are Abomination their plowing is Sin their sacrifice is as Cain's not accepted by the Lord no Peace from God no ture Rest no Satisfaction no beholding the Countenance of the Lord nor no assurance of the Eternal Inheritance which never fades away but an earnest of wrath pain misery anguish and trouble which will come upon all who live and dye in Disobedience of the Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ And so we see the Way of Life to all that believe in the Name of the Lord Jesus and the way of death to all who live in unrighteousness and are not changed by the power of God and translated from Death to Life and from the Kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of the dear Son of God. And these things are of great concernment unto us and we see it is very needful to wait upon the Lord and to follow the motions of his Spirit that we may feel his Power to preserve us in his Will out of the evil of the World that so in the Power of the Lord our God we may war a good Warfare and finish our Course with joy And verily this a matter of great weight unto us even to have our hearts exercised towards the Lord in obedience to his Will in what he requireth of us that we may have a Conscience void of offence towards him And so the Day of the Lord God being come and his Eternal Power made known in many hearts by which many are raised to serve him and obey him yea to worship him according to his own Will and the leadings of his good Spirit We are even constrained by the Power of the Lord to meet together in his Name and Fear to wait upon him and to worship him and also to exhort one another in his holy Power as the Spirit of the Lord directs yea and so much the more as the day appeareth And this we find also to be according to the Scriptures of Truth and practice of the Servants of the Lord in former dayes who did not forsake the assembling of themselves together but met often and sometime in one place and sometime in another as they were directed in the fear of the Lord And they that feared the Lord spake often one unto another and the Lord hearkened and heard it and a Book of Remembrance was written for them that feared the Lord and that thought upon his Name And they shall be mine saith the Lord in the day that I make up my Jewels and I will spare them as a man spareth his own Son that serveth him And this was in a time when the proud were called happy and they that wrought wickedness were set up and they that tempted God were delivered yet even in such a time did they that feared the Lord speak often together and also in the time when the Gospel of Christ was published by the Apostles and Ministers of Jesus many were brought into the obedience of the Truth and were gathered from the Jews Worship and way of service and they to wit the Jews could plead more justly for the Antiquity of their way of Worship and their order in their Worship then many who this day profess themselves to be Christians and a reformed Church and in that time did they meet together sometime in a Chamber sometime in an House and sometime in an upper Room as the Lord directed them and as they had opportunities and gathered Churches which met at Houses and waited upon the Lord and exhorted one another and might all speak one by one as the Spirit of the Lord led them that all might hear and all be comfored And we do not read that the Jews made a Law or the Romans either who at that time had the Principality that they should not meet above four together or if they meet five or above they should be fined Indeed the Jews who believed not were bad enough and persecuted the Saints from City and haled out of Houses they that professed the Name of Jesus and sometimes scourged them but they are evil examples to be followed and its pitty that any who profess themselves Christians should do the like to any that meet
for their way of Worship it being ancient and they which differed from them their way was but new in appearnce I say the Jews might plead for their Way far more groundedly than many now especially people who neither Live in their Way of Worship according to the Jews under the Law no not yet according to the Saints in the Primitive times And those that profess themselves Christians and yet persecute the Innocent they are far more guilty than the Jews were inasmuch as they both profess more Light and also walk so quite contrary to their own Profession yea and to the example of Christ whom they profess and the true Christians who said Love your Enemies pray for them that persecute you not persecute them that pray for you Neither had the Saints such Weapons to bring people into their Church as is now used but spiritual Ones mighty through God and went forth in his Power this brought People to be of one Heart and one way and to serve the Lord with one mind which force with carnal Weapons will never accomplish to bring people to be of one way Obj. And as it s said But some will yeild and then we will rejoyce in that Ans 'T is answered That 's a bad Work to force People and compel them to deny that which God hath made manifest to them to be Truth and the greater is their Sin that so do 'T is said that Saul compelled some to blaspheme against the Name of Jesus when he raged so against them but he afterwards confessed it as a great Sin And though some did so or do so yet that is no confirmation to the Persecutors that they are in the Way of God no nor yet a true Testimony against the persecuted that they are not in the Way of God neither doth it truly convert men at all Indeed force and compulsion may make some men conform to that outwardly which otherwise they would not do but that is nothing of weight their Hearts are never the better but are rather worse and more Hypocrites than before for force doth but make Hypocrites at the most for it is God alone by his Powerful Word of Life operating in the Hearts of People that changeth them and reneweth them in the Spirit of their minds and brings them into the true Service and Worship even to draw near him with their Hearts and to Worship him in Spirit and Truth and it 's out of man's power and that which God doth not require of men at this day to force by penalties and carnal Weapons to this or that Worship and is absolutely against the Practice of the Saints and the Spirit of Jesus as also against Christ's Royal Law which is Whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you even so do ye unto them Now let every man make it his own case He saith his way is the way of God and anothers is not Well then would he be forced to leave his own way and to go to the other which he is not satisfied of to be occording to the mind of God especially when nothing is offered to convince his Conscience or perswade his mind and understanding but Force and Compulsion Surely no man would be so dealt with in his own case Obj. But if it be said We have Power and a Law and we are wise and learned men and we would not be forceed from our Religion but we would force people to ours Ans This hath no weight in it at all for you ought to put your selves in the same capacities as them you deal with are and to consider your selves in their condition they are as strongly it may be more perswaded in their Consciences by the Spirit of God that their Way is right than you are of yours Well then weighing these things would you be forced Would you have others to deal so with you if you were in their condition and they in yours Let God's Witness answer in all Consciences and see if these ways of forcing in matters of Conscience to God wards be not quite contrary to the practice of the Saints and to the Royal Law of Christ Obj. Besides though it be said But we judge we are in the right and our way is the true way Ans It 's answered You may be mistaken many hath that have had thoughts their way was right and while you have not the infallible Witness of God's Spirit with you to testifie to your way peradventure you may err as the former Forcers have done and then you cause people to Sin if you could force them to Blaspheme and to deny as Saul did for if he that turneth a Sinner from the error of his way who hath erred from the Truth doth save a Soul and hide a multitude of Sins then they that force people from the Way of God and cause them to err doth bring Souls into death and so bring Innocent Blood upon themselves yea the Blood of Souls which will be a great weight in the Day of God's account Obj. But if it be further said How then How must we do there is so many ways that People might be brought to one way to serve God Ans Do what God requireth of you and no more and then we shall never suffer by you nor under you Do justly love mercy and walk humbly with your God this is better than the f●t of Rams 't is better than all the outward Sounds and Ceremonies and bodily exercise while the heart is far from the Lord And if you judge you are in the right and your way is right come forth then with spiritual Weapons mighty ones in the power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and let us see you shine forth in his Image let this be your covering your white Robes even the Righteousness of Christ which is the Righteousness of the Saints and let us see your meekness patience gentleness and good example your readiness by word and deed to convince Gain-sayers in the Power and Gospel of Christ your love to Enemies your selfdenial your subjection to the Cross of our Lord Jesus Oh this would reach our hearts then God's Witness would answer to you and this would answer the good part in all and this is the way to bring people to be of one mind in the Truth this is God's way this is the way the Saints walked in this is the way we love and desire and this also would be of good report amongst all good people but the contrary force and compulsion with a hasty froward proud envious Spirit with Staff and Club and carnal Weapons and Stocks and Prisoning of People against whom there is no occasion but concerning the Law of their God and matters which are really of Conscience to God-wards We say this will never be justified by the Lord nor effect the end neither nor be of good report amongst sober People nor answer the good part in people And moreover the Lord God of Life will turn