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A96468 Truth further defended, and William Penn vindicated; being a rejoynder to a book entitutled, A brief and modest reply, to Mr. Penn's tedious, scurrilous, and unchristian defence, against the bishop of Cork. Wherein that author's unfainess is detected, his arguments and objections are answered. / By T.W. and N.H. Wight, Thomas, ca. 1640-1724. 1700 (1700) Wing W2108; ESTC R204122 88,609 189

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