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A92138 The divine right of church-government and excommunication: or a peacable dispute for the perfection of the holy scripture in point of ceremonies and church government; in which the removal of the Service-book is justifi'd, the six books of Tho: Erastus against excommunication are briefly examin'd; with a vindication of that eminent divine Theod: Beza against the aspersions of Erastus, the arguments of Mr. William Pryn, Rich: Hooker, Dr. Morton, Dr. Jackson, Dr. John Forbes, and the doctors of Aberdeen; touching will-worship, ceremonies, imagery, idolatry, things indifferent, an ambulatory government; the due and just powers of the magistrate in matters of religion, and the arguments of Mr. Pryn, in so far as they side with Erastus, are modestly discussed. To which is added, a brief tractate of scandal ... / By Samuel Rutherfurd, Professor of Divinity in the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. Published by authority. Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1646 (1646) Wing R2377; Thomason E326_1; ESTC R200646 722,457 814

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that_o the_o 48._o man_n persevere_v not_o in_o that_o wickedness_n for_o the_o text_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o have_v do_v and_o that_o have_v wrought_v this_o deed_n not_o he_o that_o do_v this_o deed_n and_o therefore_o it_o seem_v paul_n will_v inflict_v punishment_n as_o a_o good_a magistrate_n use_v to_o do_v even_o though_o the_o man_n repent_v and_o he_o say_v that_o his_o spirit_n may_v be_v save_v than_o the_o man_n repent_v ans_fw-fr 1._o reconcile_v these_o two_o paul_n be_v as_o a_o good_a magistrate_n to_o kill_v the_o man_n though_o he_o shall_v repent_v and_o yet_o at_o their_o intercession_n say_v erastus_n he_o do_v forgive_v he_o dare_v paul_n at_o the_o request_n of_o man_n pardon_v a_o malefactor_n contrary_n to_o the_o duty_n of_o a_o good_a magistrate_n 2._o can_v paul_n intend_v in_o miraculous_a kill_n only_o the_o save_n of_o the_o man_n soul_n and_o know_v that_o he_o be_v save_v and_o have_v obtain_v 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and_o the_o lord_n say_v to_o satan_n behold_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o give_v he_o to_o thou_o this_o be_v to_o deliver_v one_o afflict_v kill_v condemn_v ans_fw-fr all_o this_o be_v needless_a to_o be_v deliver_v over_o be_v to_o be_v recommend_v and_o take_v in_o a_o good_a sense_n also_o act._n 14._o 26._o commend_v to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n act._n 15._o 40._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o we_o satan_n deny_v not_o but_o to_o be_v deliver_v to_o satan_n be_v to_o be_v deliver_v to_o be_v afflict_v but_o the_o question_n be_v what_o affliction_n be_v mean_v here_o the_o affliction_n of_o the_o flesh_n say_v we_o or_o of_o the_o unrenewed_a part_n oppose_v to_o a_o save_a spirit_n erastus_n it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d destruction_n can_v be_v flesh_n show_v to_o signify_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o desire_n of_o sinful_a flesh_n in_o all_o the_o new-testament_n it_o always_o signify_v kill_v death_n destruction_n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o word_n destruction_n not_o death_n but_o some_o heavy_a torment_n to_o be_v mean_v and_o i_o be_o sure_a hieronymus_n a_o man_n in_o the_o tongue_n incomparable_o skill_v say_v by_o destruction_n here_o be_v mean_v jejunia_fw-la &_o egrotationes_fw-la fast_v and_o disease_n 2._o nor_o need_v we_o contend_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o in_o all_o author_n of_o the_o world_n signify_v destruction_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o destroy_v the_o question_n will_v rather_o be_v what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o flesh_n but_o certain_o it_o be_v in_o profane_a greek_a author_n as_o unusual_a i_o except_v sacred_a greek_a author_n such_o as_o basil_n chrysostom_n who_o know_v what_o mortification_n mean_v to_o speak_v as_o paul_n do_v rom._n 8._o 13._o if_o you_o mortify_v the_o deed_n of_o the_o flesh_n you_o shall_v live_v let_v erastus_n find_v i_o a_o parallel_n to_o that_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o think_v erastus_n may_v not_o deny_v that_o this_o be_v to_o mortify_v the_o sinful_a work_n of_o the_o body_n of_o sin_n yet_o aristotle_n plato_n lucian_n plutarch_n h●siod_n homer_n nor_o any_o profane_a greek_a author_n ever_o speak_v so_o we_o shall_v therefore_o deny_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v never_o to_o greek_a author_n any_o thing_n but_o bodily_a death_n for_o excommunication_n 2_o thess_n 1._o 9_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d everlasting_a destruction_n be_v some_o more_o than_o bodily_a destruction_n 3._o we_o say_v it_o be_v unpossible_a that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d can_v be_v show_v to_o signify_v in_o either_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n a_o miraculous_a destroy_n of_o the_o body_n by_o satan_n we_o retort_v this_o reason_n back_o upon_o erastus_n his_o exposition_n be_v not_o tolerable_a because_o it_o want_v a_o parallel_a place_n it_o be_v his_o own_o reason_n erastus_n the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n must_v be_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o body_n not_o of_o concupiscence_n because_o he_o add_v that_o the_o spirit_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v save_v here_o the_o soul_n be_v oppose_v to_o the_o body_n ans_fw-fr though_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o by_o the_o flesh_n be_v mean_v the_o body_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o it_o be_v the_o miraculous_a kill_n of_o the_o man_n as_o i_o observe_v before_o 2._o it_o make_v nothing_o against_o excommunication_n for_o many_o learned_a protestant_n teach_v that_o though_o to_o deliver_v to_o satan_n be_v a_o bodily_a punishment_n or_o conjoin_v therewith_o as_o the_o learned_a anto._n waleus_n do_v observe_v yet_o the_o apostle_n be_v clear_a for_o excommunication_n in_o this_o chapter_n &_o the_o learned_a molineus_n deny_v deliver_v to_o satan_n to_o be_v expound_v of_o excommunication_n and_o will_v have_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n to_o be_v some_o bodily_a torment_a of_o his_o body_n by_o satan_n &_o so_o do_v sundry_a of_o the_o father_n especial_o ambrose_n hyeronimus_n augustinus_n and_o chrysostom_n though_o augustine_n be_v doubtful_a yet_o molineus_n say_v certum_fw-la est_fw-la paulum_fw-la velle_fw-la hunc_fw-la incestum_fw-la moveri_fw-la communione_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sed_fw-la id_fw-la vult_fw-la fieri_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la cor●nthiacâ_fw-la dicens_fw-la ver_fw-la 13._o tollite_fw-la istum_fw-la sceleratum_fw-la è_fw-la medio_fw-la uèstrúm_fw-la and_o that_o grave_a and_o judicious_a divine_a piscator_fw-la say_v on_o the_o place_n that_o the_o form_n of_o excommunication_n be_v this_o deliver_n to_o satan_n but_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n he_o think_v to_o be_v the_o exhaust_v of_o the_o natural_a strength_n of_o the_o body_n with_o sorrow_n for_o his_o sin_n according_a to_o that_o prov._n 17._o
the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v tie_v to_o one_o certain_a place_n but_o every_o particular_a church_n have_v alike_o power_n to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o with_o the_o jew_n must_v be_v another_o thing_n then_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v now_o for_o he_o that_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o one_o particular_a church_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o in_o judea_n for_o sacrifice_n and_o sacrament_n except_o circumcision_n and_o expiation_n be_v only_o at_o jerusalem_n not_o in_o synagogue_n how_o then_o can_v they_o deny_v sacrament_n which_o they_o want_v themselves_o they_o can_v not_o deny_v what_o be_v not_o in_o their_o power_n to_o give_v moses_n be_v read_v in_o their_o synagogue_n every_o sabbath_n no_o man_n can_v be_v forbid_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n read_v this_o have_v be_v against_o a_o manifest_a precept_n it_o be_v like_a they_o admit_v heathen_n to_o the_o synagogue_n act._n 13._o 14._o c._n 12._o c._n 18._o but_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o heathen_a to_o enter_v into_o the_o temple_n and_o when_o moses_n command_v all_o the_o clean_a to_o go_v to_o jerusalem_n no_o synagogue_n can_v forbid_v they_o to_o go_v ans_fw-fr that_o the_o synod_n may_v have_v divers_a signification_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n have_v divers_a signification_n we_o deny_v yea_o it_o signify_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o lord_n jesus_n speak_v of_o it_o and_o the_o evangelist_n as_o of_o a_o stand_a censure_n in_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n condemn_v no_o where_o except_o when_o it_o be_v abuse_v joh._n 9_o 22._o joh._n 12._o 42._o joh._n 16._o 2._o luk._n 6._o 22._o joh._n 9_o 35._o so_o be_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nadah_fw-mi to_o excommunicate_a as_o a_o unclean_a thing_n isaiah_n 66._o 5._o your_o brethren_n that_o cast_v you_o out_o pagnin_n and_o mercer_n expound_v it_o of_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n and_o they_o cite_v joh._n 9_o and_o 12._o and_o 16._o to_o make_v it_o signify_v excommunication_n 2._o that_o a_o circumcise_a jew_n can_v by_o no_o law_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o judea_n seem_v to_o say_v that_o banishment_n be_v not_o a_o lawful_a punishment_n sure_o david_n against_o all_o law_n than_o do_v banish_v absalon_n 2_o sam._n 14._o 13._o and_o when_o the_o king_n of_o persia_n ezra_n 7._o 25_o 26._o command_v ezra_n to_o restore_v judicature_n as_o at_o the_o beginning_n it_o will_v seem_v that_o banishment_n be_v a_o ancient_a punishment_n among_o the_o jew_n therefore_o erastus_n crafty_o say_v that_o no_o bear_v jew_n be_v so_o cast_v out_o of_o judea_n that_o they_o be_v compel_v to_o say_v they_o be_v not_o jew_n sure_o we_o never_o dream_v of_o such_o a_o excommunication_n that_o the_o excommunicate_v shall_v be_v compel_v to_o lie_v and_o say_v that_o though_o they_o be_v jew_n and_o christian_n yet_o they_o shall_v say_v they_o be_v not_o jew_n or_o christian_n 2._o when_o the_o people_n be_v in_o egypt_n 2_o mac._n they_o be_v kill_v who_o deny_v themselves_o to_o be_v jew_n and_o deserve_o for_o they_o deny_v their_o religion_n and_o their_o god_n what_o be_v this_o against_o excommunication_n we_o plead_v not_o for_o such_o a_o excommunication_n as_o be_v a_o local_a extrusion_n of_o a_o person_n out_o of_o the_o land_n of_o judea_n nor_o for_o such_o a_o one_o wherey_n they_o deny_v their_o nation_n that_o be_v a_o sinful_a lie_v but_o such_o whereby_o church_n privilege_n be_v deny_v to_o some_o for_o scandal_n 3._o nor_o do_v we_o expound_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n literal_o as_o erastus_n do_v to_o be_v a_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n or_o from_o the_o ordinance_n there_o and_o from_o hear_v the_o word_n or_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n for_o the_o synagogue_n be_v the_o church_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v debar_v from_o the_o temple_n passeover_n and_o other_o holy_a thing_n though_o these_o shall_v be_v tie_v to_o one_o certain_a place_n to_o wit_n to_o the_o temple_n and_o i_o doubt_v if_o the_o excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v debar_v from_o hear_v the_o word_n 1._o because_o the_o excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v admonish_v as_o a_o brother_n 2_o thes_n 3._o 15._o and_o the_o word_n preach_v be_v a_o mean_a simple_o necessary_a for_o the_o man_n gain_v 2._o because_o heathen_n be_v not_o exclude_v from_o hear_v the_o word_n 1_o chron._n 14_o 23._o act._n 17._o 16._o 17_o 18_o 19_o 20._o etc._n etc._n act._n 14._o v._n 15_o 16_o 17._o but_o from_o the_o temple_n and_o sacrament_n they_o be_v exclude_v we_o have_v often_o answer_v that_o all_o the_o moral_o unclean_a though_o they_o be_v ceremonial_o clean_a be_v not_o only_o not_o command_v to_o go_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n that_o be_v to_o the_o temple_n and_o holy_a thing_n that_o they_o be_v rebuke_v and_o accuse_v because_o they_o stand_v in_o the_o lord_n temple_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o idolatry_n and_o other_o abomination_n in_o their_o skirt_n jeremiah_n 7._o verse_n 9_o 10._o ezekiel_n 23._o 38_o 39_o isaiah_n 1._o verse_n 10_o 11_o 12_o 13_o 14_o 15_o 16._o erastus_n they_o call_v christ_n a_o samaritan_n joh._n 8._o those_o of_o 314._o nazareth_n not_o only_o cast_v he_o out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n but_o out_o of_o the_o town_n and_o strive_v to_o throw_v he_o over_o the_o brow_n of_o a_o mountain_n who_o doubt_v then_o but_o they_o cast_v christ_n out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n when_o they_o make_v a_o law_n that_o if_o any_o shall_v confess_v he_o he_o shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n yet_o never_o man_n object_v to_o christ_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o thou_o to_o go_v into_o the_o temple_n for_o thou_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n ergo_fw-la to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v ans_fw-fr all_o these_o be_v poor_a conjecture_n for_o erastus_n grant_v there_o be_v such_o a_o censure_n as_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n but_o he_o show_v not_o what_o it_o be_v but_o i_o retort_v this_o argument_n if_o christ_n have_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n those_o that_o call_v he_o a_o samaritan_n and_o cast_v out_o of_o their_o synagogue_n such_o as_o confess_v he_o will_v have_v sometime_o say_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o thou_o to_o go_v into_o the_o synagogue_n and_o teach_v for_o thou_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n but_o by_o the_o contrary_a christ_n till_o the_o day_n of_o his_o death_n open_o teach_v in_o the_o synagogue_n joh._n 18._o 20._o i_o speak_v open_o to_o the_o world_n i_o ever_o teach_v in_o the_o synagogue_n and_o in_o the_o temple_n whither_o the_o jew_n always_o resort_v luke_n 4._o 15._o he_o teach_v in_o their_o synagogue_n luke_n 4._o 16._o as_o his_o custom_n be_v he_o go_v into_o the_o synagogue_n mat._n 4._o 23._o mark_v 1._o 39_o mark_v 3._o 1._o luk._n 6._o 6._o mat._n 9_o 35._o luke_n 13._o 10._o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o demonstration_n to_o i_o that_o they_o never_o cast_v christ_n out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n what_o hinder_v they_o say_v erastus_n i_o answer_v let_v he_o show_v i_o what_o hinder_v they_o to_o stone_n he_o joh._n 10._o and_o not_o to_o put_v he_o to_o death_n till_o his_o hour_n come_v erastus_n speak_v not_o like_o a_o divine_a who_o scoff_v at_o the_o secret_a counsel_n of_o god_n for_o god_n have_v the_o suffering_n of_o his_o own_o son_n christ_n in_o a_o special_a manner_n determine_v and_o weigh_v in_o number_n weight_n and_o measure_n and_o therefore_o though_o they_o make_v a_o law_n that_o all_o that_o confess_v christ_n shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n and_o though_o those_o that_o sin_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n matt._n 12._o call_v he_o a_o samaritan_n and_o out_o of_o a_o sudden_a passion_n those_o that_o wonder_v at_o the_o gracious_a word_n that_o proceed_v out_o of_o his_o mouth_n will_v cast_v he_o over_o the_o brow_n of_o a_o mountain_n yet_o i_o hold_v they_o never_o make_v any_o law_n no●_n do_v execute_v any_o law_n nor_o do_v cast_v out_o of_o their_o sgnagogue_n or_o excommunicate_v the_o lord_n jesus_n i_o leave_v erastus_n to_o his_o conjecture_n erastus_n act._n 4._o and_o 5._o the_o apostle_n be_v scourge_v and_o 31●_n cast_v out_o by_o the_o high_a synagogue_n summa_fw-la synagoga_fw-la yet_o present_o they_o teach_v in_o the_o temple_n and_o use_v the_o sacrament_n act._n 21._o when_o paul_n act._n 21._o be_v to_o go_v to_o the_o temple_n to_o sacrifice_v the_o apostle_n who_o counsel_v he_o so_o to_o do_v do_v not_o object_n that_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o so_o can_v not_o
the_o magistrate_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n because_o they_o be_v kill_v in_o the_o old_a then_o be_v we_o to_o stone_n the_o man_n that_o gather_v stick_n on_o the_o lord_n day_n the_o child_n that_o be_v stubborn_a to_o his_o parent_n the_o virgin_n daughter_n of_o minister_n that_o commit_v fornication_n be_v to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n why_o but_o then_o the_o whole_a judicial_a law_n of_o god_n shall_v oblige_v we_o christian_n as_o carolosladius_fw-la and_o other_o teach_v i_o humble_o concieve_v that_o the_o put_n of_o some_o to_o death_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o it_o be_v a_o punishment_n to_o they_o so_o be_v it_o a_o mysterious_a teach_n of_o we_o how_o god_n hate_v such_o and_o such_o sin_n and_o mystery_n of_o that_o kind_n be_v go_v with_o other_o shadow_n but_o we_o read_v not_o say_v erastus_n where_o christ_n have_v change_v those_o law_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n it_o be_v true_a christ_n have_v not_o say_v in_o particular_a i_o abolish_v the_o 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