25. Paul spoke his condicion that he was in to the Saints and what he had passed through which yet thou art alive in the flesh and not come to know the Law of God therefore thy carnal minde rules and reigns in thee and so thou art making a distinction in the Apostles words and wresting of them who witnessed that there was no condemnacion to him that was in Christ Iesus and witnessed the condicion under the Law and without the Law and was made free from the Law through the Law which thou knowest not so thou being a dead man canst not hear thou speakest of a Victory and reigning power of sin and yet in the conclusion of thy words thou speakest to the contrary again and that thou art of that minde that Victory is not fully enjoyed while we are on the earth and here thou speakest contrary to the Scriptures and there is a confusion in thy words for first thou sayst there is a Victory and Dominion â—ver the reigning power of sin and then again thou denyest it and here thou shewest Babylon for the Apostle sayd We are more than conqâ—â—rours through him that loved us and there is no condemnacion to them who are in Christ Iesus Another Scripture thou wouldst be satisfied in 1 Cor. 15. 54. the Apostle did speak what he saw in this Chapter which thou hast taken a word or two of and we witness and see the same yet death reigns in thee and corruption reigns in thee and the natural minde which doth despise the glory of God therefore is this Scripture hid from thine eys but it is as it speaks we witness it to be fulfilled and the Apostle was in the condicion that he spoke of for he witnessed the Victory and sayd Thanks be to God who hath given us the Victory through our Lord Iesus Christ 1 Cor. 15. 55 56. and sayd O death where is thy sting O grave where is thy victory Rom. 5. 9. and thou hast raced out thy self from the Apostles and from the Saints condicions and shewest that death yet hath dominion over thee and that sin hath dominion over thee and that the mortal hath dominion over the and that corrupcions have dominion over thee and that that thou art in the grave and that Victory cannot be witnessed and art an enemy to it and hast not so much as a belief in thee of overcoming of sin and here thou hast shewed thy hypocrites hope as thou sayst and so keepest poor people in death in corruption and in the mortal and carnal minde and in the grave and in unbelief as thou art in thy self and shewest that thou art damned openly he that believeth not is condemned already he that believeth is born of God and doth not commit sin but is passed from death to life Query 10. Whether any natural man can preach the Gospel yea or no Priests Answer I do believe they may preach the historical part of the Gospel I believe Iudas did preach and was not behinde in his gift to outward vieâ— of the eleven Apostles for the Apostles had no ground to have any ill conceits of him for had they they would soon have reflected on him when Christ sayd One of you shall betray me but they questioned themselves and not him Matth. 26. 21 22. And God gives great gifts many times to wicked men Rom 2. 18 19 20. 2 Cor. 11. 13 14 15. Ministers of Satan may be transformed into Ministers of righteousness Gal. â— 8. They cannot preach the mystery of the Gospel nor Christ from their own experience or enjoyment for this they know not 't is folly to them 1 Cor. 2. 14. A Reply to the Priests Answer Here thou art pleading for the natural man for Iudas and the false Apostles and it is true in that generacion thou art among them and therefore thou must needs love thy own and stand up for them for no other generacion thou knowest I am a witness against thee and I know thee and have tryed thy spirit to be one of these false Teachers which wouldst transform thy self into an Angel of light and which dost intrude into these things thou never knewst and so thou puffest up thy fleshly minde there thou art I witness thee there eternally by the Eternal spirit Thou sayst Ministers of Satan may be transformed into Ministers of righteousness 2 Cor. 11. 15. here thou wouldst make Satan and righteousness one and shewest forth thy error not knowing the words as the Apostle speaks and if they cannot preach the mystery of the Gospel how can they be transformed into righteousness for the Ministers of Satan transform themselves as the Ministers of righteousness but he doth not say he transforms into it here thou shewest thy self to be a Lyar and thy self to be one of those who are no Ministers of the Gospel getting the form but denying the power 2 Tim. 3. 5. which ever was to be turned away from whose end is destruction according to their works and so thou shewest all along that thou hast but onely the form of the Apostles words for thou pleadest for them who are without and against those who are within who are in the power and life of the truth thou pleadest against the truth and the life which the Apostles were in and the life of the Apostles for the Apostles did discern the false Apostles and those who did transform themselves so with the same spirit we discern thee to be in the same generation among them and there thou must own thy porcion and own the Scriptures to be tru and thy porcion in it which it speaks of to the false Prophets and false Apostles Another Scripture thou bringest 1 Cor. â— 14. thou bringest a Scripture which sayth The natural man receiveth not the things that be of the Spirit of God they are foolishness to him that is thy own condiâ—ion own that Scripture for a truth to thy self for the preaching of Christ and the Cross is foolishness to thee as it was to them that held up the Iewish Synagogues which yet thou holdest up another in imitation from the carnal Letter being carnal and blinde and ignorant of the mystery and of Christ and of the Gospel but the mystery and Christ and the Gospel we witness and own but we have not reâ—â—ived it of man neither were we taught it of man but by the revelacion of Iesus Christ Gal. 1. 12. and we do witness forth the substance as the Apostle did and therefore we do deny all such as thou art who art not so much as a Minister of the Letter and hast not yet got the form of it to speak it tru as the form is but thou hast shewed forth thy ignorance and foolishness of the form of the Letter Query 11. Whether the Tree be not known by its fruits yea or no Priests Answer No question but it is Christ himself says so but I pray thee tell me did ever a good Tree bring forth Despeâ—aâ—ion
had commanded when the everlasting Offering was come and against the outward Temple but thou art blinde and canst not see it Pharise like but thy minde is seen to be contradictory who wouldst contradict the truth and doth not see the end of God in fulfilling his Types and Figures and when they are fulfilled he doth contradict them and therefore do we contradict thee which actest these things God never commanded that which God had commanded was contradicted as Circumcision and the outward Temple and the Sabboth and all the Priests were denyed with them who had received Iesus Christ and here thou hast shewed thy self to be a blinde Pharise which knowest not the precepts nor commands of God but followest thy own imaginacions and thy own invencions which I have charged thee withall formerly and here I charge thee to be a blinde Guide Matth. 23. 16. and therefore came the Apostle to contradict all the Jews who held up the Figures after the substance was come but thou art blinde as the Pharises were and worse for when the Apostles had received the substance they contradicted the Pharises which held up the Types and Shadows which God had commanded and killed them that did witness the substance come but thou natural brute Beast who knowest nothing of God nor his truth must be consumed by unquenchable sier thou speakest of an Assembly of Christians coming together to worship God but a company of the world may come and thou joynest with them here thou shewest plainly that thy worship is no tru worship of God for they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth Iohn 4. 23 24. for such are they which he seeks to worship him but not in the Steeple-house the mighty day of the Lord is coming and God that made the world doth not dwell in Temples made with hands therefore come down thou painted Beast which deceivest the people God will overturn thee and thy worship and all such as thou art and them who are of God God is sending them forth to give you the Cup double that ye have given to them thou sayst an Assembly of Christians coming together to worship God are not bound up so close but a company of the world may come in and joyn with them here thou shewest that thy Assembly are all of one spirit and here thou shewest plainly that thy spirit and their spirit is the spirit of the world and not the spirit that was in the Apostles and Saints which sayd What concord hath Christ with Belial and what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness 2 Cor 6. 14. and here thou hast raced thy self out of the tru worship of God and I know thy spirit is not bound up but it is at liberty in the world in the broad way and therefore with them it can joyn and so here thou shewest thy self to be of a contrary spirit to them that preached the Word the Ministers of the Word are not Ministers of the Letter wherein it doth appear that thou art a Minister of the Letter a wrester of it those who are the Ministers of the Word speak forth freely and testifie against such hierlings as thou art who art bound up in thy form and set place and against all thy customary praying and singing for the preaching of the Word is to declare freely to all it is not bound up but such as thou wouldst limit it who doth keep poor simple people in bondage under thee I do believe God hath a people which is in captivity under thy dark imitated Forms and such as thine and who are misled by such as thou art for we were all under such blinde Guides as thou art until God of his infinite love did shew us his way and his light and your ways therefore in the presence of the Lord God do we testifie against all such practises as thine and for the simple ones sakes who are under such blinde Guides as thou art do we let forth our selves that they may see how such as thou bewitchest them and keepest them from worshipping the living God by thy imaginacions Gal. 3. 1. Thou bringest a place 1 Cor. 14. 23 24. to maintain singing of Davids Psalms in a Meeter but in that Scripture there is no such thing in it here again thou openly shewest thy self to be a perverter of the Scriptures and a wrester of it what communion hath the believer with the unbeliever here thou shewest thy self to be one of Babylon full of confusion and confused in thy words contrary to the Scripture and a wrester of it for the world knows not God by all its wisdom Thou sayst that your Congregacion is required to speak good of God O you Generacion of Vipers how can you being evil speak good things Mat. 3. 7. Here thou crossest Christs words thou wouldst have the Generacion of Vipers to speak good things An evil tree cannot bring forth good fruit how can you speak good of God that speak nor good of his people the Pharises when they met together did they speak good of God when they sayd Christ was a Devil and gathered together with the chief Priests and sought to put him to death Iohn 11. 53. and in this generacion thou art taking counsel against Christ and against his anoynted incensing the rude multitude against them and is this speaking good of God Query 9. Whether a man shall overcome the body of sin while he â—â— on the earth yea or no Priests Answer There are divers and several victories over sin as first a victory over the dominion and reigning power of sin Rom. 6. 14. this is not given by the power of man but by the power of grace there is a victory over the condemning presence of sin sin cannot so hurt any elect Vessel as to throw him into â—ell and eternal wrath and condemnaâ—ion Rom. 8. 1. There is a victory over the being of sin in the flesh and whatsoever curse thou sayest on me for the same I must profess that I am of the minde that victory â—s not fully enjoyed while we are on the earth for then and not before when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption Death is swallowed up in victory 1 Cor. 15. 54. and the Apostle cals the body of sin the body of death Rom. 7. 24. A Reply to the Priests Answer Friend thou bringest so many Scriptures which is to the throwing down of thy own self as Rom. 6 14. and thou desirest to be satisfied to the contrary to thy belief for thou believest that man shall not be made free from sin as long as he is here and here I will shew thee that thou hast a lying spirit for in Rom. 6. they sayd they were made free from sin for while they were servants of sin they were made free from righteousness and here thou shewest a contrary spirit to that which was in the Apostle and thou desirest to be fully satisfied in those Scriptures in Rom. 7. 18.
nothing Thou deaf Adder and Serpent who art full of Cockatrices Psal 8. 4. for if thou couldst see but thou art blinde thou mightst see the same gift amongst us as was among the Apostles for we witness the same by the same spirit according to the operacion but the lying spirit in thee can judg no otherways of truth it self but to be a lying spirit for it is in the generacion of them that know nothing of the truth for that Spirit that we are led by thou knowest not for if thou wert led by the same Spirit we should be one with thee but Friend thy spirit is tryed and known to be the spirit of Error thou sayst the Prophets erred not in declaring the minde of God to you thou knowest not the Spirit that the Prophets were guided by nor thou knowest not the minde of God though thou hast the outside a declaracion which is to the visible eye without thee but art in the generacion of them that could tell by the Prophets words where Christ should be born yet they sought to put him to death Mark 14. 64. the chief Priests and so thou art one of them which is an Enemy to Christ where he is born now as they were them and as Iannes and Iambres witstood Moses so dost thou resist the truth out of a corrupt minde in the state of Iannes and Iambres out of the faith a Reprobate as thou hast openly shewed it but thou shalt proceed no farther for thy folly is and shall be made manifest 2 Tim. 3. 9. Thou sayst thou hast taken pains to answer these Queries thou hast wrested many Scriptures as it is made manifest to maintain thee in the state of the Pharises and to maintain thee an Enemy against Christ and to maintain thee to be one of Balaams Prophets and to maintain thee to be one of the hierlings and to justifie that which Christ forbids and to maintain thee to hold up that horrible filty thing that is committed in the Land and to bear rule by thy means Ier. 5. 30 31. which the Prophets cryed against and with the Prophets words and Christs words and with the Apostles words thou wouldst shelter thy self and make thy self a cover to maintain thee in thy filthiness but the Lord God of power is coming to uncover thee and lay thee more and more open and make thee bare that thy filthyness may appear to the end that the simple ones who are in captivity under thy subtlety and snare of iniquity may be delivered and peoples mindes directed unto God that â—e alone may be exalted to whom be all prayse honor and glory for ever And Friend thou sayst that thou desirest that the Lord would open our eys thou tempter of the Lord thy Lord we deny and thy Prayers we deny the Lord hath opened our eys Prayse and glory be to him for ever the Lord hath opened our eys without thy Prayers Matth. 20. 34. therefore we deny them they are abominacion and contrary to thy means hath the Lord opened our eys 1 Iohn 1. 1. neither is there any thing of God in thy Answers but thou and thy imaginacions are raced out for ever and all thy pains thou speakest of are the works of thy own hands which were ever cryed out against Thou desirest we may escape out of the snare of Satan where it is broken we have escaped out of thy snares where they are broken Psal â—24 7. and therefore out of thy dominion and from under thy power are we come and see thee to be one that the Devil ensnares who art one of his Souldiers and not of Christs fighting for the Devils Kingdom and fighting against the Saints with thy carnal weapons and against â—he Lamb but the Lamb hath got the victory over the Beast Prayses prayses be to the Lord God Almighty for every Amen FINIS QUERIES sent by Gabriel Camelford to the People who out of reproach and envy of the blinde and dark world are called Quakers Answered by the Spirit of the Lord which doth enlighten and shine in our hearts and those that live in the pure light of God and can reade with the Spirit may see him taken in his own Snare and condemned out of own mouth and his Deceits layd open Query 1. WHat is a Reprobate 2 Cor. 13. 5. Answer Whereas thou wouldst know what a Reprobate is thou art out of the truth hated of God a Childe of the Devil an Enemy of Righteousness the Son of Perdicion in whom Christ rules not but the works of the flesh who knows not the Light that enlightneth every one that cometh into world but denyes it and hates it Query 2. Whether Christ be in a Reprobate to lead him to God Answ Thou askest thou knowest not what Shall ever a Reprobate enter to God Jacob have I loved Esau have I hated and Christ condemns the Reprobate and the Reprobate hates the Light Iohn 3. 19 20. as thou dost which shews forth the works of darkness and there thou art a Reprobate and one that knows not the Light that enlightneth every one that comes into the world and this Light shall condemn thee who keepest others in the same nature with thy fair glosses and colours which thou settest upon the Scriptures which must go into the Lake and into perdicion who livest in thy filthy and fleshly imaginacions which ever was cursed from God Psal 101. 5. an Enemy of Righteousness whom the Lord according to his promise will scatter who livest in thy imaginacious and conceivings Rom. 1. 21. and there thou art Query 3. If so why are not all men brought to God Answ Because they hate the Light as thou dost and lovest the darkness tather than the Light because thy deeds are evil Dost thou profess thy self to be a Minister of Iesus Christ and queriest why all men are not brought to God here openly thou hast shewed thy self to be a Hater of the Light for shame give over and blush Christ sayth I am the Light which enlightneth every one which cometh into the world Ioh. 1. 9. which thou art ignorant of he that loves the Light and walks in the Light there is no occasion of stumbling but thou that hatest the Light thy deeds are evil and therefore thou stumblest Iohn 11. 9 10. and there is thy condemnacion which is the Light and with such blinde Guides as thou art are poor people lead from the Light within them which should guide them to God to hearken to thy imaginacions and to fall down to thy images but the Plagues of God will be poured down upon the Beast and the false Prophet Deut. 28. 59. and thou art one which keepest people from God Query 4. Whether any man hath power to resist in the day when he comes to draw the soul to himself Aâ—sw Here thou shewest that thou dost not know the power of God neither hast tasted of it but standst in the power of Satan and dost resist and deny but
neither knewst Life nor Resurrection Query 4. What guile and craft was it he taught them by 2 Cor. 12. 1â— Answ O thou vain man thou wouldst know what guile and craft the Saints were taught by not thy guile and witchcraft and Sorcery which thou livest in Ier. 27. 9. which thou drawest People from the truth withall by thy fair colours and imaginacions and so feedest them with thy corrupt stuffâ— and it is that which thou art an Enemy to and never knewst for thou art in the gall of bitterness buying and selling the Letter catching with thy witchcraft and this is thy guile giving thy imaginacions upon the Scriptures which Paul gave forth Rom. â— 21. shewing forth thy spiritual whoredom from the life of them that gave it forth thou art not come so far as Simon Magus who would have bought the gift of God for money but the wisdom of God takes the wise in their own craftiness and here thou hast shewed thy self to be ignorant of the Ministers of God and thy self to be full of subtilty and a fool Query 1. What enlightning this is Heb. 6 4 5 6. Answ It is the enlightning which thou knowest not of which is not born up in thy understanding which thou art an Enemy to which is the Light of God which Light thou hatest Iohn 3. 20. Query â— What heavenly gift it is they tasted Answ If thou knewst the gift of God Iohn 4. 10. thou wouldst not buy and sell the Letter for the gift of God is not to be bought and sold and that gift shalt thou never know which is the gift of God Rom. 6. 23. Query 3. How or in what sense they were made Pertakers of the Holy Ghost Answ Wouldst thou draw the Holy Ghost to thy sense and to thy carnal reason with which thou shalt never know it but art blind without God in the world wouldst intrude into the Saints condicions Ephes 2. 12. Query What world to come is this they tasted of Answ Not of the dark world which thou art in that world which thou shalt never see for that world and the Holy Ghost we witness therefore we see thee in the dark world without God Rom. 5. 13. Query 5. Whether such as these did fall away Answ Thou hast shewed forth thy ignorance of the Form of the Letter many did taste of the power of God and did eat of the spiritual meat and did drink of the spiritual drink and were destroyed 1 Cor. 10. â— 4. this meat and drink thou knowest not nor art not come to eat of it Query 6. How or in what sense they cruciâ—ied the Son of God afresh and put him to open shame Answ Thou wouldst know in what sense they crucified the Son of God afresh and thou art he that crucifiest him where he is risen and made manifest and they are they which crucifie him afresh who have tasted of the heavenly gift and draw back from it which gift yet thou art not come to know hadst thou an ear thou mightst hear Rev. 2. 11. but thou art in the estate of the chief Priests and Pharises who could tell by the Letter where he should be born but were they that put him to death In these six questions thou hast shewed forth thy self that thou dost not know the Light which the Saints were and are enlightned by nor thou dost not know the heavenly gift now here thou hast shewed thy self openly to be a blinde Minister of the Letter and what dost thou speak to People but the carnal Letter which dost not know the gift of God and thou hast shewed that thou dost not know the Holy Ghost but wouldst have a carnal sense upon that which is eternal and here thou hast shewed thy self to be a natural man indeed for shame blush and give over thy Trade and prating about other mens matters thou busi-body thou hast openly shewed thou dost not know the world which is to come Heb. 6. 5. but hast shewed thy self to be one that keeps People in the dark world and here thou makest it manifest that thou never tastedst of the world to come and here thou hast raced out thy self and shut thy self up in the dark world and here thou art taken in thy craftiness and catched in thy subtle guile because thou hast shewed thy self that thou never wert in the way therefore thou dost not see them and here it is that makes it manifest thou art in the fall and in the by-path and in the dark and in the broad way and there thou keepst poor People and thou hast shewed that thou art he that crucifies Christ Mark 15. 13 14. and bringst all others to crucifie him and dost not know that condicion of them that crucified him afresh but art spending all thy strength to keep People from him which eternally thou and they and all People shall witness us to speak the truth wheras thou hast sayd thou hast given me a taste least thou shouldst tyer me but Friend thy spirit I did taste before I did see thy Queryes which is the spirit of Antichrist and knowing nothing of the tru Christ which thou hast openly shewed that spirit of thine cannot weary us for it is for destruction Thou blinde Sot how darest thou speak to People that neither knowst the enlightning nor the Holy Ghost nor the gift of God nor the world which is to come therefore what dost thou lead them out of nor what is it to crucifie Christ afresh nor the condicion of them that fall away which shews that thou art not out of the fall therefore all People who hear this fellow take notice of this blinde Guide how ignorant he hath shewed himself of the Doctrine of Christ 2 John 1. 9. and raced himself out to be no Minister of Christ as not knowing the Apostles condicions all these things we witness fulfilled Acts 13. 33. the Holy Ghost the Enlightning the world to come and the heavenly gift but not by any such Teacher as thou art Prayses be to the Lord alone for ever the Lord alone is our Teacher therefore do we deny and testifie against all such as thou art all these things hath God fulfilled in us Rom. 8. 4. therefore we witness them Prayses be to the Lord God for ever Query 1. Whether the Old Testament discovering the minde of God to man be of any esteem with you yea or no. Answ We witness the New Testament and Old both and thee to be without both but onely to make a Trade of them and there they are in esteem to thee for thou hast never come out of Egypt yet for when he lead them out of Egypt he gave them a Covenant Judges 1. 2. but thou neither knowest Moses nor the Prophets nor Christ but they are in esteem with us and we witness against thee Query 2. Whether thou canst or dare deny the generality of the Precepts given in this particular before cited Answ The Precepts of God we own all