and yet behold the Righteous God cannot be acquite in that which is every way more justifiable though He hath absolute dominion over us and may dispose of us as He will which no man hath over another The truth is this dissatisfaction with God in all his wayes is an argument beyond all deniall of our Rebellious Natural Inbred Corruption and Wickedness of heart what would they not have said that it had been Goodness and Equity both in God if Adam had stood to have made us all partakers of the Benefite thereof and shall it now be against both Goodness Equity if by reason of his Fall we be deprived thereof and be Obnoxious to the evils threatned what unequal dealing is this In fine This is the old câ—ant of the Palagians as Vossius sheweth us Hist. Pelag. Pag. 206. And what Augustine replyed he way see Ibid. Pag. 20â— 13. He addeth a rhapsody of non-sense telling his readers our opinion floweth from our self lâ—ve because we maintaine an absolute decree of election for ourselves and ours and so care not to send all the rest to hell and leave them into inextricable difficulties The reading of whâ—ch might indeeâ— excite any man of Understanding to commiserate this mans case who is thus so transported with paâ—sion as he knoweth not what he is saying only we see that he muâ—t spew out his gall againâ—t the Orthoâ—â—x doctrine of Election before the fit time come but when he cometh to tâ—e right place of speaking to this as we shall see in the next Chapter he dar not meddle with Election but contents himself with Reprobation But what an evident demonstration of Corrupt Self love and Pride against God is in his Pelagian heresie he is blinde that seeth not These Quakers with other Pelagians will not be beholden to the Grace of God but as little as may be and therefore so frame their doctrine that themselves and not the grace of God may have all the praise of their Salvation as we will have occasion frequently to shew ere all be done When he hath deluded himself and other Quakers and made some others beleeve that they have no Original sin to mourne for and thereby hath brought them under the dominion of Satan more than befoâ—e hath he done them any good service Is it good service to poor souls to hoodwinke them that they may post to the pit witâ— a lie in their right hand Woe I say and thrice woe to such as drink-in this mans doctrine and live and die accordingly 14 Thereafter he is better pleased with Papists who allow a limbus to the Infants dying without baptisme than wâ—th us But we must be satisâ—ied that he look more warmly to his old friends the Papists among whom he drank-in no doubt much of that prejudice which now he is pleased to voâ—ite foâ—th as Quaker rather than as a Papist And as to this particular whereupon now we are his opinion will accord better with the Papists than with Ours for Bellarm. will not have concupiscence to be owned as sin Formally but only Originally and Effectively or Terminatively and they say that Adam was created in puris naturalibus which naturals remain whole and intire as yet and will not this Quaker grant all this as to Infants Nay he agreeth well with the Errour of Albert-Pighius who will have no sin propagated to us from Adam and sayeth that there is nothing in us when new borne but what is good and that death cometh not upon Infants because of sin but floweth from the constitution of the body But whether he will say with him that because of Adam's sin all his posterity are banished out of Heaven though not obnoxious to eternall Death I know not It may be he will allow them a limbus or else make them all sure of heaven if he will grant a heaven to any But how come they thither seing they have nothing to do with Christ all thaâ— come to heaven must be beholden to Christ the Redeemer and hold their crown of Him But this Qvakers Religion will teach old persons let be Infants to be little beholden to Christ as we shall heare 15. He is so bold as to tell us next that our opinion is contrary to Scripture Because the Apostle sayeth Rom. 4 15 that where there is no Law there is no transgression and 5 13. but sin is not imputed when there is no Law And he like a man proveth that Infants are under no Law But is the man such a stranger to the common practices among men who forfeite the Children yea Infants yea such as are not borne with their Fathers for great crimes and yet they know that Infants are not obnoxious to their Lawes especially if as yet unborne But our plaine answere is That the Nature of Mankinde was under the Law proposed unto Adam as the Head and when he as the Head and Representative broke that Law the whole nature of Mankinde became guilty and consequently every Infant becometh guilty when they partake of that guilty nature And that thus it was with all the posterity of Adâ—m the Apostle expresly asserts in the last place cited viz. Rom 5 12 13 14. even notwithstanding of this very Oâ—jection which he proleptically bringeth-in there as the cohesâ—on cleareth and we shall evince afterward 16. His last reason is from Ezechiel 18 20. which Socinians also urge and it receiveth a quick dispatch for he himself must loose this doubt if there bâ— any as well as we for he said before that God punisheth the sins of the Fathers on the children when guilty of actual sinnes whereby they homologate their Fathers wickedness And Ezechiel doth plainly and frequently enough make it out â—hat tâ—ese children were as wicked as their fathers if not more and so the Lord might according to this Man 's owne concession visite the iniquities of their Fathers upon them But the scope of the place being clearly this That so little grouâ—d had these people to alleige that they were innocent and that God had no quarrel againâ—t them but for their fathers transgressions so that their fathers did eat thâ— soure â—rapes and their teeth were therefore set on edge though they themselves did eat no soure grape being innâ—câ—nt that on the contrary the Lord tels them by the Prophet that though he should not visite one iniquity of their Fathers upon them as hâ— might do in justice and had one with others but should follow a way with them more suteable to their owne minde viz. only take notice of their own guilt personal yet they could not escape because their owne personal iniquities were so many and so great This I say being the scope of the place it is obvious how impertinent it is for him here to alleidge it And beside let him make of it what he will it cannot reach us for we have told him that this original sin is not the sin of another Person as Adam's after sins were
to help his owne to performance of duty in part upon a new score let them mourne for shortcomings and flee to the bloud of Christ conforme to the Gospel that there they may get extracts of pardon and be thankful that the Lord hath so secured the matter that they shall never come into condemnation 21. As to the saints he reasoneth further thus Their imperfection is either from themselves or from God If from themselves then it is because they use not the power they have for that effect and if they have a power it is not impossible if from God as not giving them that measure of grace whereby they may be enabled to do all his will then He should be unrighteous Ans. Thus reasoned the Pelagian Caelestius of old and Crellius the Socinian of late See Hoornb ubisupra Pag. 103. And we say 1. This will at most conclude only for a possibility of Perfection or immunity from sin and so will not serve his point 2. If he mean a culpable cause I say it is from themselves and that not because they have any moral power now for keeping the whole Law perfectly though I grant withall that they have more than they make good use of but because that power which was once given was sinfully cast away 3. It is false that God should be unrighteous if he gave not that measure of grace whereby they should become perfect Nay sayes he God shall be more unjust than are the vilest of men who will not give to their children asking bread a stone nor a serpent to them when asking for fish Ans. The Lord rebuke this blasphemous tongue what ground is there for this They confess sayes he that they must ask of God deliverance from sin Very true And yet such a thing is never to be expected The Lord forbid We expect and hope for growing deliverance and final and full deliverance in end when the saints shall say and sing O grave where is thy victory and O death where is thy sting And they shall come unto the upper mount Zion the city of the living God to the Spirits of just men made perfect when all teares shall be wiped away from off their faces But it seemeth our Quakers expect all their heaven here Where is now the stones that God giveth instead of bread the serpents he giveth instead of fish His following calumnious insinuation hath been spoken to already elsewhere 22. His third argument followeth Pag. 156. § 5. He sayes our opinion is injurious to Christ and his sacrifice Christ was manifested chiefly for this end to take away sin and gather a people to himself zealous of good works Tit. 2 14. and to bring in everlasting righteousness that is Evangelical perfection Answ So hote is this man in his pursuite that to reach us he careth not though he pierce his owne bowels for by this one argument he destroyeth all that he said of Vniversal Redemption as we cleared above Chap. VIII But as to us it reacheth us not for we grant that Christ came to take away sin both as to guilt and this he did by the sacrifice of himself and as to the staine and being of it and this he doth by his Spirit piece and piece till in end he give full victory and so he hath a people redeemed from the guilt and power of iniquity though not fully from its presence and stirrings and a people zealous of good works which is not inconsistent with the stirrings of a crucified body of death That that everlasting righteounsess mentioned by Daniel Chap. 9. is to be understood of Evangelical perfection is said but not proved Againe he sayes It is said 1 Ioh. 3 5 8. that the Son of God appeared for this end to take away our sinnes and to destroy the works of the devil Answ. True and so he hath done by taking away the guilt and by destroying daily the works of the devil in his people mortifying lust and corruption and carrying on the work of grace till at length it be perfected Ay but he sayes it is added he that is borne of God doth not commit sin that is doth not break the Law in thought word or deed Answ. What that is to commit sin we shewed above and also that by this passage thus interpreted he shall prove what is against himself to wit that that highest degree of Perfection which whosoever hath attained cannot sin any more is not peculiar to some but common to all that are borne of God Is not Christ sent saith he further to turne a people from sin unto righteousness and from the Kingdom of Satan unto the Kingdom of his dear Son Answ. Yes Are not these thus converted his servants children brethren friends Ans. They are Are they not as he in the world holy pure and immaculate Answ. The text saith not this Read againe 1 Ioh. 4 27 Doth not Christ watch over them care and pray for them save them by his Spirit walking in them and among them Ans. This is all true and â—hence we inferre that they shall certainly be perfected in end and shall persevere unto the end contrare to what he saith as we shall see in the next Chap. But all this will not prove a sinless Perfection common to all the saints But will not Christ have them perfect or is he not able to make them perfect Ans. Yes But he will do it in his owne time and way He himself will not deny but Christ is able to make them all perfect in the highest degree so as not to be able to sin any more yet for all that he will not say that it is so He citeth also Ephes 5 25 26 27. But nothing to his purpose for we grant that the Lord will present his Bride to himself one day faire and cleane without spot or wrinkle or any such thing and that he is about this work bringing all his forward unto this state of perfection washing them cleansing them in his blond and by his Spirit sanctifying them more and more But saith he if they do sin in thought word and deed dayly there is no difference betwixt the holy and profane the cleane and unclean c. Answ. Notwithstanding of this the difference is great for what the profane doth is nothing but sin and in nothing accepted of God through Christ and is done with full purpose of heart without any contrary lusting of the Spirit all they do as it floweth from an evil principle so it is done for an evil end and in a corrupt sinful manner and so is wholly defiled But it is not so with the child of God He mourneth over and repenteth of his shortcomings and striveth against sin The other not So there are many moe differences too many here to be insisted upon 23. His fourth Argument Pag. 157 § 6. is That our doctrine maketh the work of the ministry preaching prayers c. useless while as Paul sayes Ephes.
Vossius ubi Supra Pag. 150. taking that by nature c. to import as none with any shew of reason can otherwise think all carnally borne and partaking of the nature of Adam and so to be verified of all borne by the conjunction of man and woman so that by nature is as much as naturally And Calvin on the place sayeth that it is a notable passage against the Pelagians for saieth he what is naturally in every one is in them from their very original therefore if all be children of wrath or obnoxious to wrath by nature they are so from their very original But what way doth this Man evade The Apostle sayeth he assigneth evil actions not any thing that is not yet reduced into act for an argument proveing them to be children of wrath By which we see how backwardly this man readeth the Scriptures for the Apostle to commend the riches and power of the grace of God towards these Ephesians whom the Lord had quickened showeth what persons they were and all are before grace take hold of them He saith not that these Ephesians were children of wrath because walking according to the course of this world c. but that they had so walked were moreover children of wrath by nature and it is observable though this Man putteth out his owne eyes that he may not see it how the Apostle changeth the person from the second to the first vers 3. saying among whom also we all had our conversation in times past and were by nature the children of wrath even as others And thereby sheweth that this was not the condition of the Ephesians and other Gentiles only but of the Jewes also himself not excepted because nature corrupted in Adam is one and the same common to all both Jewes and Gentiles so that all as soon as they partake of Nature come under this guilt and are Children of wrath He himself immediatly before told us that the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 mentioned 1 Cor. 2. the Carnal man was not the Animal man but the Rational man so that this is true not only of the beastly man who by his actual sinnes bâ—utifieth himself and maketh himself a meer Animal but even of the Rational man who hath a rational soul and so soon as he hath a rational soul. The usual import of the word Nature and Natural in Scripture confirmeth this Rom. 2 27. 11 24. Gal. 2 15. 4 8. 1 Cor. 15 44 46. 10. We need not then regaird what he addeth saying that the Gospel condemneth nor threatneth no man but him that hath actually sinned for in some sense the Gospel condemneth no man that heareth it but the final unbeleever but offereth life pardon to all to whom it is preached of all their sins actual original upon condition of accepting of Christ offered therein And as for the New Test. we have seen enough in it already and will see more to evince our point and albeit this were not we Judge that the Old Test. could prove the point as we shall also see The Gospel moreover tels us that except a man be born againe he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God and so that as long as he hath but the first birth of the flesh he is under the wrath of God Infants are not capable of threatnings but they are capable of death which we proved in the preceeding Chapter to be the punishment of sin 11. Nor is that which followeth much worth the noticeing when he sayeth God will visite the iniquities of the fathers upon their childeren who abide in sin and so homologate and follow thir fathers iniquities For there is a vast difference betwixt Adam's first sin and the sinnes of other Parents Adam's first sin or breach of the Covenant was not a personal sin as the sinnes of other Parents are and his after sins were but the sin of the whole Nature whereof he was the Head and Representative therefore all that partake of that Nature participate of the guilt of Nature when Infants have a being they partake of the nature of Adam immediatly and though they have this nature by meanes of generation of their immediat parents yet they have not this nature from them but from Adam as I said And though they have their personality from their immediat parents yet they do not partake of their Fathers personality but have their owne humane personality not being a thing propagable therefore they cannot in strick sense be guilty of their parents personal sinnes And yet if it were of moment to debate the matter we might shew from Scripture how the holy Lord who is Just Righteous punisheth even children for their Fathers faults and though the children be sometimes found guilty of actual sinnes and so homologate their Fathers transgression yet it is not found alwayes to be so It was not so I suppose with the infants of Careh Dathan and Abiram and the rest of that conspiracy nor with the Children of Achan nor with the Infants of Sodome and Gomorrah and of the Old world nor with these that were carried away captive by the Assyrians and Babylonians and several other instances to speak nothing of the Children of Cain Ismael Esau and of the Jewes when cut off the Old and Natural stock Rom. 11. And further the very expression of God Command 2. of visiting the iniquities of the fathers upon the Children sheweth that whatever sinnes they may have of their owne yet it is the fathers guilt that bringeth on that punishment else it could not be a visiting of their fathers iniquities but only of their owne 12. It seemeth more considerable that he sayeth our opinion is contrary both to the mercy and justice of God if he had given any proof But he must follow the footsteps of Socinians and Arminians who Assert this also but will not much trouble us with their probations He told us just now himself That God can and doth visite the Iniquities of Fathers on their Children and how can this comport with his goodness and justice seing their fathers sins are not properly their owne because they were personal when he thinketh it Incongruous to God's Iustice and Goodness to impute the sin of Nature to all that partake of that nature though it be their owne by vertue of their partaking of Nature And strange it is that men will be that bold as to call God to their bar and accuse him as Unrighteous because he taketh vengeance when upon a far unlike account they will not impute iniquity unto Men we see that for crimes of â—ese Majesty or the like one man is not only punished but all his posterity after him though not yet borne are forfeited When a person representing others which cometh neareâ— to our case committeth any fault as such a person representing all whom â—e representeth must beare the guilt and the inconvenience following there upon and no man will account this unjust or iniquous
are they in capacity to joyn themselves to this seed of sin Is it when they are in capacity to commit actual sin But of this the question may be renewed when may we judge them in this capacity shall we suppose that they are not in case to sin actually or to adjoyn themselves to this seed untill they come to the full use of reason then it will follow that Idiots can sin none at all that the Envy Selfishness Pettedness and the like that appeare very early in Infants shall be no sinnes and yet Augustin was of another mâ—nde And there were some of the Old Pelagians who to evite the force of arguments against them alleiged that the Infants committed actual sin so soon as they were born and therefore came under death as a punishment against whom August wrote Serm. 7. de Verb. Apost saying what do you think to say and whose eares can heare it did they sinne themselves where I pray did they sin when and how did they sin They know neither good nor evil shall they sin that are under no command Prove that Infants are sinners prove what is their sin Is it because they weep that they sinne do they sin because they take pleasure or repel trouble by motions as dumb â—nimals if these motions be sin they becoâ—e greater sinners in baptisme for there they resist most vehemently But I say another thing you think they have sinned otherwayes they had not died but what say you of such as die in their Mothers womb will you say they have sinned also you lie or are deceived c. Whether this man will be of this judgment or not I know not but it is like he will not owne it for he looketh not upon death as a punishment of sin 9 I would gladly have him explaining to me what that is to joyne themselves to this seed of sin and that so much the rather because it is a piece of their proper dialect and is no where else to be found so far as I know Is this Seed lying within them as a stranger or as a tempter alluring them to sin in which they have no concerne until they submit to the temptation and consent then why may we not suppose that such a seed of sin might have been in Adam before he fell from the very minute of his creation seing it could not have dammaged him if he had not actually consented But why should this Seed of Sin be more looked upon as a stranger so as by vertue thereof they in whom it is shall not be accounted sinners than the Seed of Grace of which the Scripture speaketh and by vertue of which they in whom it is are denominated gracious even when they are not actually exerceing grace But it seemeth this man looketh upon the seed of sin and the seed of grace as two contrary solicitors attending man with their contrary motions and solicitations so that man abideth still in puris naturalibus till he hearken to the one or other and yeeld his consent But then 10 I would ask if it be in mans power to withhold his consent from the urgent soliciting of this seed of sin If this be in his power than he can live all his dayes and never once sin and act his part better than Adam did And how cometh it seing this is in every ones power that there was never one such found borne of a woman and begotten of a man that lived and died without sin If it be not in mans power than his soul hath gote a sinful byasse which Adam's soul had not when first created and shall this sinful byas and inclination be no Deformity no Sin no Imperfection no Contrariety to the law which prohibiteth all inclinatioâ— to sin 11. Let him explaine to me how the childe 's actual sin can make him really guilty of Adam's eating of the forbidden fruit and to deserve hell fire upon that account doth he think that the first actual sin of the châ—lde maketh him really guilty of all his fathers faults doth he think that the fiâ—st actual sin of the childe maketh him as guilty and as obnoxious to the wrath of God for all Adam's after sinns as for his first sin This must be cleared by Him who putteth no difference betwixt Adam and other parents in this matter and it must be cleared so as no staine of Injustice be put upon our Maker and with all he will do well to consider that maine argument of the Socinians and Arminians against us for though it doth not reach us yet I see not how he shall evite it It is this one act cannot make an habite one act of sin could not have that force to corrupt the whole nature of Adam for here this mans judgment is that one act of sin consenting to the seed of sin corrupteth that mans whole nature which was pure before one act of sin can deprive a man of Integrity and of Original Righteousness and bring on an Inclination to all sin but these evils are not sinfull in this mans account therefore he is concerned to loose his friends Objection 12 The ground of this mans mistake though he be not that ingenuous as to declare it is that no guilt can be imputed to a person who doth not actually consent thereto by an act of his owne personal Free Will for this was the maine Objection of the Pelagians and of others But then what will he say of sinnes of Ignorance and the like How cometh it that sins are divided into Voluntary and Involuntary What will he say to Psal. 19 13 14. But we have told him that even Originals in was fully voluntary in our nature and in the Fountain when first committed for it was not as to us a personal sin and so the personal consent of such as are contaminated therewith is not requisite thereto but a sin of our Nature and to this no more consent or will is required than the will and consent of him who was the head of this nature whose will was not extrinsick to us we being in him as members of that Body whereof he was Head Beside that this Voluntariness â—elongeth not to the Essence and Forme of sin Scripture defineth sin otherwise calling it a transgression of the Law 1 Ioh. 3 4. and who say otherwayes joyne with Bellar. de Amiss Grat. C. 1. 13. By this meanes he must say That infants are neither Righteous nor Unrighteous neither Holy nor Sinful indued neither with Good nor Evil qualities and consequently neither heires of Hell nor of Glory and thus make them mere Stocks or Brutes and not Rational Creatures 18. Next he speaketh to our Argument from Rom. 5 12. c. and because this place iâ— the proper seat of this doctrine which we hold the Apostle treating there of it professedly and maintaining it we shall premise some things to clear our Argument and then shall examine what he saith And 1. It is obvious to all
therefore I shall say againe O man who art thou that repliest against God c. Art thou also offended that God hath given thee an immortal soul and made thee a man out of the same lump of clay out of which he made the beast Why art thou then angry that God out of the same lump maketh one a vessel of honour and another a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction But next will he say that all men naturally can Beleeve and Repent and fulfill the conditions upon which salvation is offered Yes this he must say or he saith nothing against us here and then he must be as much a Pelagian as ever Pelagius was himself Then Faith is not the gift of God but of ourselves contrare to Ephes. 2. v. 9. and other Scriptures above cited Then Faith is not the faith of God's elect contrare to Tit. 1 1. Then a natural man and he that is in the flesh can please God contrare to Rom. 8 8. Then the natural man can receive the things of the Spirit of God contrare to 1 Cor. 2 14 Then he contradicteth all his owne doctrine formerly examined Chap. v. Then we need not pray for faith and Repentance or a Circumcised heart or Regeneration or a New heart or an heart of flesh nor give God thanks for any of these things because they are all in our owne power and then the Beleever maketh himself to differ contrare to 1 Cor. 4 7. What a contradiction this is to the whole Gospel and to the whole tenor thereof no man that hath once read it can be ignorant We thank him this once for this plaine and ingenuous insinuation This may help us to understand him better in what is following But if he say that they can do what is required by the help of the grace of God He knoweth that we say so but his Aggravations here have a far other tendency for his instance of the beasts of Pharaohs carriage were else utterly impertinent Nay what meaneth the man to compare the matter unto Pharaoh's withdrawing of straw yea and make it worse Say we that God taketh away that Grace to beleeve and Repent that wicked men would as faine have as the Israelites would have had straw or that Reprobation maketh men unbeleevers against their will and taketh away the Power and Grace to beleeve which they had It is little wonder that this man who dar thus open his mouth against heaven spew out lies and calumnies against us We must beare it knowing that he will come to Judgment and that our Doctrine is consonant to that Rev. 22 17. and whosoever will let him take of the waters of life freely and to that Ioh. 6 37. and him that cometh to me I will in no wayes cast out 25. He proceedeth in his calumnies and saith P. 69. That by our doctrine we place Mankinde in the same state that the Poets feigned Tantalus to be in who being thirsty was placed in water to his chinne so that he could not drink And why because we say that the works of creation and providence among heathens are not to bring them to salvation but only to convince them of sin so serve for their condemnation Answ. 1. But what hath this to do with Reprobation The man in his rage runneth himself blinde that he knoweth not what he saith 2 Do Heathens make up all mankinde 3. Are the Heathen as desirous of Salvation and of the Crown of Glory of which they never once heard and of the Grace of Faith in Christ of whom they never heard a report as Tantalus was of drinking the water that did run by his lip as the verse might have minded him Tantalusà labris sitiens fugientia captat pocula If not is the man so transported with passion that he seeth not his palpable impertinency 4. we see then that according to his Opinion the works of Creation and Providence are as effectual meanes to save the Heathen as the Gospel is to save such as hear it and by these may Heathens come as soon to glory as such as live under the Gospel by it why then came Christ into the world Was it that the works of Creation and Providence might become preachers of the Gospel and of Salvation but we will possibly hear more of this afterward He addeth that we say the preaching of the Gospel the use of sacraments prayers c. suffice to condemne Reprobats that live within the visible church and that they are all ineffectual unto them by reason of a secret impotency which they had from their infancy c. Ans. 1. Here still more Pelagianisme for he would say that all within the visible Church are borne able to beleeve the Gospel and do duties required therein 2. That the peaching of the Gospel is to many the favoure of death we are told by Paul 2. Cor. 2 16. and that it tendeth to the aggravation of their guilt and condemnation we heard lately out of Christ's owne mouth 3. Is he angry with us because we will not say that every mothers son that heareth the Gospel can beleeve and obey the same without the grace of God or because we will not say that Christ hath given sufficient grace to all that heare the Gospel to Believe and Obey Let him be angry with the Scriptures if he dar for we speak according to them that â—els us all men have not faith 2 Thes. 3 2. and â—hat faith is of God's elect Tit. 1 1. and that no man can come unto the Son but whom the Father draweth Ioh 6 44. That many beleev not because they are not of Christ's sheep Ioh. 10 26. That there is a necessity of regeneration Ioh. 3 3 5 6. and that the carnal minde is enmity against God fâ—r it is not subject to the law of God neither indeed can be Rom. 8 7. And many moe such things see Ioh. 12 39. Act. 13 48. 28 24 25 26 27. Mat. 13 11 12 13 14 15 16. Rom. 11 7 8 9. 4. As for his making the case of the wicked that hear the Gospel the same with Tantalus's we shall only tell him that if he can prove that any Reprobat hath as great and vehement a desire unto salvation by Christ as it is offered in the Gospel as Tantalus had to drink and yet it is denyed unto them meerly upon the account of their being Reprobate then his comparison is apposite But if that be an untruth as it is his argueing from Tantalus's case is a mere forged calumny We openly declare according to the tenor of the Gospel that he who is a thirst may come and drink of the water of life freely Revel 22 vers 17. Esai 55 vers 1 2 3. Mat. 11. vers 28. Ioh. 7 vers 37. 26. Thus we have examined all which this Man hath thought fit to cull out of the writings of Pelagians and Arminians and present his Reader with for no other end but to
his Church Act. 20 28. Ephes. 5 25. his Elect Rom. 8 32 34. his Children Heb. 2 12 13. 26. If we would consider aright 15. What Christ did undergoe suffer while he was made sin or was making satisfaction for sin we should hardly think it probable that Christ Jesus God-man who was the brightness of the Fathers glory and the express image of his person Heb. 1 3. and thought it no robbery to be counted equal with God Phil. 2 6. Should have undergone what he did undergoe and that the Father should have laid all that upon him which he did lay upon him and that to purchase only a meer Possible Redemption from sin and wrath whereby not one person should be saved or pardoned if so it had seemed good to captaine Free will Not to Mention his condescending to be Born of a woman and to be Made under the Law Gal. 4 4. nor his being in the Forme of a servant Phil. 2 7. nor his Poverty and mean condition in the world 2 Cor. 8 9 nor his Conflicting with the indignities of the world Psal. 22 6. Heb. 12 2 3. with the temptations of Satan Mat. 4 1 -12. Luk. 4 15. and his being under the infirmities common to the nature of man being in all things like us except sin Heb. 2 17. 4 15. Esai 52 13 14. Nay nor his sufferings in his Body Name Honour at death when he was Betrayed by Iudas Mat. 2â— 4. Forsaken by his disciples Mat. 26 56. Scorned and Reviled by the world Esai 53 2 3. Condemned as a malefactor by Pilat and Tormented by his persecuters Mat. 27 26 50. Ioh. 19 34. and Endured the Painful Shameful and Cursed deatâ— of the crosse Phil. 2 8. Heb. 12 2. all which and the like being endured by Him who was the Son of God could be no mean suffering nor undergone for an uncertain end or for the procureing of a meer Possible and Uncertain good But that which we would most take notice of here is his Soul sufferings being pursued by divine justice when that Zach. 13 7. was accomplished awake O sword against my shepheard against the Man that is my follow saith the Lord of hostes smite the shepheard and the sheep shall be scattered Mat. 26 31. and the Lord did bruise him and put him to griefe Esai 53 5 10. and he began to be sorrowful even unto death Mat. 26 37 38. and was sore amazed and very heavy Mark. 14 34. and was put to offer up prayers and supplications with strong cryes and teares to him that was able to save him Heb. 5 7. when notwithstanding that an angel appeared unto him from heaven strengthening him yet being in an agony he prayed more earnestly and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground Luk. 22 43 44. and at length was made to cry out my God my God why hast thou forsaken me Psal. 22 1. Mat. 27 46. Mark 15 34. This was no mean business when the Rayes and Irradiations of Divine Love were drawn-in and withheld from him who had such a sharp sense of the happiness in the enjoying of God's favour because of the Personal union with the Godhead But that which is most of all to be considered is his being made a Curse Gal 3 13. and so made to wrestle with the Justice and Wrath of a sin-revenging God This was the gall and the wormwood that made him cry Ioh. 2 27. Now is my soul troubled and what shall I say Father save me from this hour Shall we suppoâ—e that all this was about an Uncertane Bargane Shall we think that he died the cursed death of the crosse and bore the weight of God's wrath Luk. 22 4â— Mat. â—7 46. and so became a sacrifice to satisfie divine justice Heb. 9 14 18 all to purchase a meer Possâ—bility or a meer Possible Redemption Shall we think that the Second pâ—rson of the Trinity should do and suffer all these things for to redeem man when possibly if Freewill should be so ill natured not one man should reap any advantage thereby Me thinks the asserting of this should be a great temptation to cause people turne Socinians and deny all these soul sufferings of Christ and his bearing the wrath of God and making any satisfaction to justice 27. Adde to this 16. That the Scriptures speak of Christ's Death Sufferings as being not for himself but for Others and that not only for the good and advaâ—tage of others and doubtless the advantage of all this should be but little if it were nothing else but a meer Possible Redemption which Free will might make Actual or Not Actual as it pleased but in their Roome and Place hence it is called the chastisement of our peace Esai 53 5. and he is said to have bâ—rne our griefs and carryed our sorrowes vers 4. He was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities vers 5. The Lord laid on him the iniquity of us all vers 6. for the transgression of my people was he stricken vers 8. for he shall bear their iniquities vers 11. he bare the sin of many vers 12. He bear our sins in his body on the tree 1 Pet. 2 24. the just suffered for the unjust 1 Pet. 3 18. Hence beleevers are said to be crucified with him Gal. 2 20 to be baptized into his death Rom. 6 3. buried with him by baptisme into death vers 4. planted together in the likeness of his death vers 5. dead with Christ vers 8. He was cut off but not for himself Dan. 9 26. See also Heb. 2 9. 1 Pet. 2 21. Shall we say that this was meerly for our good seing it was in some respect for the good of the whole creation Rom. 8 20 21 22 23. Act. 3 21. and not in our Place and Stead Paul saith 2 Cor 2 14. If one be dead for all then were all dead And iâ— is manifest that he payed the Law-debt having taken on him the seed of Abraham for this end Heb. 2 16. and being made a curse for us he redeemed us from the curse of the Law Gal. 3 10. So that it was in our stead Rom. 5 6 7 8. Ioh. 11 50. 10 11 15. And the Preposition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath clearly this import Mat. 5 38. 17 27. Esa. 4â— 4. Exod. 21 23 24. 1 Chron. 14 1. 1 King 3 7. 2 King 1 17. 11 43 Prov. 11 8. Iob. 16 4. 34 â— 1 Pet. â— 9. Rom. 12 17. See many other places cited by worthy Mr Rutherfoord in his book of the Covenant Pag. 25.255 where both in the N. T. and to the LXX version of tâ—e old 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath his impâ—rt And this tâ—uâ—h is abundantly made out by our Orthodox Divines writing against the Socinians so thâ—t I need say no more of it only I â—hink such as aâ—â—ert the Reâ—emptâ—â—n puâ—chased by Christ to have been a
for some sinnes of all and not for all their sinnes for whom he died seing he was a Compleet Cautioner So then as Christ died in their roome and stead as their Cautioner and Sponsor for whom he died wrong should be done to Him if all these for whom he was a Cautioner should not at length actually be delivered out of prison freed from the accusation of the law They for whom he died being in him legally when he died and morally and virtually dying in him and with him must not in justice be made to pay their own debt and satisfie the law over againe Christ's stricking hands as the phrase is Prov. 22 26. and so putting his name in the obligation and accordingly making satisfaction the Principal 's name is blotted out and he freed in the time appointed for he beare our griefs and carryed our sorrowes c. Esai 53 4 5. and by meanes of death he delivered them who through fear of death were all their lifetime ubject to bondage Heb. 2 14 15. 37. This matter will be further clear if we consider 26. How the death of Christ was a Satisfaction and none can deny this but Antichristian Socinians Others willingly grant that Christ did substitute himself in the room of sinners and was willing to undergo the punishment threatned in the Law against sin that the sinners for whom he undertook satisfaction might be freed So he bear their sins Esai 53 11. 1 Pet. 2 24 And he was made sin 2 Cor. 5 21. Hence he is called a Propitiation 1 Ioh. 2 3. 4 10. Rom. 3 25. Whereby we see that Christ took upon him the whole Punishment that was due to sin and that God whom sinners had offended was well pleased with what he did and suffered according to that undertaking yea more pleased than he was displeased with all the sinnes of those for whom he suffered for hereby His Authority and justice was made to appear more glorious excellent How then can we think that many of those it may be all for whom he gave that satisfaction may notwithstanding possibly be made to make satisfaction for themselves as they may by our Adversaries way Was not his satisfaction full compleat Why should any then for whom he gave that satisfaction be liable to Punishment Is this consonant to justice Did not the Lord Jehovah send Christ and fit him with a body for this end Psal. 40 6. Heb. 10 5. laid upon Him the iniquities of us all Esai 53 6 that He might make full satisfaction for them to justice suffer for them all that the Law could demande of them or they were liable unto by the broken Law Did not Christ do suffer all which he undertook to do suffer for this end And did not the Father accept of what he did suffered as a full Compensation Satisfaction And seing this cannot be denied it is manifest that this was done by Christ as a Cautioner Heb. 7 22. how can it be imagined that the Principal debtor shall not thereupon have a fundamental right to freedom pardon in due time after the Gospel method be actually Discharged delivered from the penalty of the Law Redeemed by the Satisfactory Price payed by the Cautioner accepted of the Creditour Doth not the denying of this certain infallible Effect call in question the value worth of Christ's satisfaction and give ground to say that Jehovah was not Satisfied with the price or that Christ made no Satisfaction Did not Christ make Reconciliation for the sinnes of his people Heb. 2 17 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 38. Adde for a further confirmation of this 27. That Christ's death was a propitiating sacrifice He gave himself for us an Offering and a Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour Ephes. 5 2. He offered up himself once Heb. 7 27. He is a sacrifice for us 1 Cor. 5 7. the lamb of God which beareth or taketh away the sin of the world Ioh. 1 29. He offered up himself without spot to God Heb. 9 14 he was once offered to bear the sinnes of many Heb. 9 28. we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Iesus Christ once for all he offered one sacrifice for sin for ever Heb. 10 10 12. Now as the sacrifices under the Law which were a type of this did not procure a General Possible benefite but did procure a Real favour only to the People of God for they sanctified to the purifying of the fâ—esh Heb. 9 13. So certanely this Real and Perfect sacrifice must have a Peculiar and Real Effect and sprinkle consciences from dead works to serve the living God Heb. 9.14 And this is not a thing common to all nor is it a meer Possible thing They must then do a great indignity unto the Sacrifice of Christ who speak of an Universal meerly Possible Redemption 39. Adde to this 28. How upon this Sacrifice which Christ offered up in his death we read of a Reconciliation made Ephes 2 â—6 and that he might Reconcile both unto God in one body by the crosse having slaine the enmity by it or in himself 2 Cor 5 10. when we were enemies we were Reconciled to God by the death of his Son Col. 1 20. and having made peace through the blood of his crosse by him to Reconcile all things unto himself Therefore is he called our Peace Ephes. 2 14. he maketh Peace vers 15. we have Peace with God through our Lord Iesus Christ. Rom. 5 1. Now this Reconciliation being of parties that are at varience must be a Reconciliation of both to other and so a mutual Reconciliation and Christ effectuateth both and both are purchased by his death we cannot then imagine with Socinians that all the Reconciliation mentioned in Scripture is of us to God as if God's Anger and Wrath were not appeased and taken out of the way nor with Arminians that Christ obtained an Universal Reconciliation of God to all but no Reconciliation of man to God friendship betwixt enemies must be mutual if a Reconciliation be and our state before this was enmity Rom. 5 10. Col. 1 20 21. and God's wrath was against us and upon us Ephes 2 3. Ioh. 3 36. But now how will this agree with Universal Redemption Is God Reconciled to all when many perish under his wrath for ever Can God be said to be upon the death of Christ Reconciled to all when it may so fall out that not one soul shall have peace with God How cometh it to passe that many whose Reconciliation Christ hath purchased live and die enemies to God Sure the Apostle tels us 2 Cor. 5 19. that to whom God is reconciled to them he doth not impute sin and he assureth us that all such as are reconciled to God by the death of his Son shall be saved Rom. 5 10. 40. Adde 29. That it seemeth
feeling till Free will come in and determine the matter nor hath it any efficacious influence upon Free will to determine it but leaveth it to its free choice 3. Is this all the benefite that is had by Christ's Obedience and Death that people may be turned from evil to good then it seemeth Christ's death was not so effectual for the good of any as Adam's sin was for the hurt of all Is this to magnifie and exalt the Sacrifice of Christ 4. If this be all that Christ purchased to wit a power to turne from evil to good and to feel the vertue of this seed if men will he hath purchased nothing but what is Natural or what is inferiour to common moral vertues for it is natural to have a power to do or not do as men will and a moral vertue is more than such a power because it leaveth not the man in a state of pure indifferency but inclineth him to acts of such a vertue and only to such acts And if Christ purchased only this power he purchased no more a power to do good than a power to do evil for the power of it self is indifferent to both no more inclined to the one then to the other So that Christ hath purchased â—o Supernatural Grace which effectually moveth and determineth to good but only the Pelagian Natural Grace by which no man is more inclined to good than to evil and which a man may make use of or not as he will and so if he will it shall be of no benefite to him 5. If this be all that Christ hath obtained it is not much mater though we say that such are partakers of it that never heard of Christ. 6. But why saith he Many may feel this seed that never heard of Christ not All Is there any difference if there be what is it and upon what is it founded 7. We deny that any partake of the Supernatural and Saving Benefites of Christ's death who are without the Covenant and never heard of him we mean persones come to age for we except the Elect Infants who are within the covenant and are not capable of hearing And this Mans doctrine rendereth the knowledge of the Gospel very useless at least not very necessary though life and immortality be â—rought to light thereby 2 Tim. 1 10. and it be the mean through which people are begotten unto God 1 Cor 4 15. and the power of God unto salvation Rom. 1 16. the glorious Gospel of the blessed God 1 Tim. 1 11. though by it we are called to sanctification of the Spirit and beleefe of the truth to the obtaining of the glory of the Lord Iesus Christ 2 Thes. 2 14. And in the word of the truth of the Gospel we heare of the hope which is laid up fâ—r us in heaven Col. 1 5. Though by it the Gentiles be made fellow heires and of the same body and partakers of his promise in Christ Ephes. 3 6 And it be the Gospel of our salvation Ephes. 1 13. Though it be a glorious Gospel having light in it to shine into the heart of beleevers 2 Cor. 4 4. and hath a blessing and a fulness of blessing in it Rom. 15 29. so it is called the Everlasting Gospel Rom. 14 6. and for preaching of which Christ himself was anointed Luk. 4 18. What unworthy creatures must these Quakers be that think so little of the Gospel of Christ and of the preaching of it and cry up so much the Light within 17 But he saith they beleeve that it is necessary for such as hear the Gospel to beleeve it Ans. Necessary how Wherein consisteth this necessity seing we may be saved without it Is it because it is a Revelation of God's truth But that speaks out no more the necessity of the faith of the Gospel or of the History of Christ unto salvation than the faith of this that Paul left his cloak at Troas or the History of Cain Ismael Iudas c. which is recorded in the Scriptures And thus he maketh the great mercy of enlarging the borders of the Church under the New Testament and of taking-in all nations by the preaching of the Gospel without discrimination to be no mercy at all or at least a very small mercy He addeth That they ingenuously confesse the outward knowledge of this to be full of comfort to such as are under it and are acted by this inward seed and Light Ans. But this comfort is not necessary to Salvation according to them This inward Seed and Light is sufficient for this and we are enquiring after its necessity but finde none in this mans opinion Yet let us see wherein this comfort consisteth For saith he Pag. 86. not only are they humbled by the sense of Christs death and sufferings but they are also confirmed thereby and encouraged to follow his excellent example 1 Pet. 2 2. and are also refreshed by his gracious speaches Ans. And is this all Then I see there is no more necessity for any to be acquanted with the History of Christs life and death than with the History of other holy saints of God and we have no more interest in that than in these is that to exalt Christ's Satisfaction and Propitiation All that was written afore time was written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope Rom. 15 4. And is the History of Christ of the same nature and use with the History of others And is there no more to be gathered therefrom than what an example may contribute This is pure Socinianisme in graine 18. In fine he discovereth to us another mystery concluding thus The History indeed is profitable and comfortable conjoyned with the mystery but not without it but the mystery is and can be profitable without the explicite and external knowledge of the History Ans. That the knowledge of the History without the receiving of Christ held forth therein conforme to the Gospel termes is of little use as to Salvation we grant but what else he meaneth by the mystery I know not unless he meane the light within 2. Can he shew us how the mystery can be known without the History Or to whom and when it hath been known 3. Why was the Gospel written and that by so many several hands And why have we any books of the New Testament And why did Christ appoint Oâ—fâ—cers to continue to the end Why did he send forth his Apostles to bear witness of his Death and Resurrection Why saith Iohn Chap. 20 vers 31. but these are written that ye might beleeve that Iesus is the Christ the Son of God and that beleeving ye might have life through his name Thus we see how at one dash this Mischievous Man would destroy the whole administration of the Gospel by making it altogether unnecessary unto salvation what a desperat designe must these men have 19. In the fift place he cometh to clear how
with such dottages Either sure these men are meer mockers or they are under a judicial stroke of blindness and infatuation But sayes he This word is really sowne in the stonny and thorny ground as well as in the good Alas poor man thinks he that every word in a parable must be pressed thus till it bleed Who ever heard rational men speak thus And though it were so this will not speak for all the world a great part whereof heare nothing of this word Nay nor for all within the Church or that heare the word for open mockers contemners and persecuters of the word belong neither to the rocky nor thorny ground nor to the way side What he citeth out of Victor Antiochemis from Vossius Hist. Pelag. is utterly impertinent for it speaketh nothing of all the world but of such only as hear the word preached and to this end only Vossius himsef adduceth it as may be seen by his Thesis And any that read Victor's words may see that he speaketh of the preached word and not of the Quakers substance and vehicle a fanciful dream 34. He urgeth next Pag. 102. the Parable of the Talents Mat. 25. saying he that had but two talents and had improved them for his masters advantage was accepted as well as he who had five and he that had but one might have done the same And hence he inferreth that though every one hath not the same measure of grace yet every one hath that measure which is sufficient Ans. The maine thing is not here confirmed viz. That this Talent is a substantial thing and not that grace which is but an accident I beleeve he saw that what is spoken of improving these talents could not well agree to his substantial Seed and Light and far less the hideing of the one talent Nor 2. Hath he proved that these talents signifie saving grace and not meer gifts of the Spirit which are given for the good of the Church Nor 3. Hath he said any thing to cleare that by these servants are meant all the men and women in the world and not the officers of the Church or others that are gifted living within the Church These things he must clear and demonstrate before he can make any use of this Parable and till he finde himself in case to do this we proceed 35. In the third place he saith § 23. This saving seed is the Gospel which the Apostle saith Col. 1 23. was preached in every creature And the Gospel is not a bare declaration of good things but the power of God Rom. 1 16. for though the word figuratively and by a metonimy signifie the outward declaration yet properly it is that inward power vertue and life whereby the Annunciation of good things is preached in the hearts of all offering salvation unto them and willing to redeem them from their sinnes and therefore it is said to be preached in every creature when many hear not the external Gospel Ans. 1. The Gospel which was preached was the doctrine delivered by men whereof Paul himself was a Minister But that seed which he talketh of which he saith is abideing as a substance in every man is not that which Paul anâ— others whose feet were beautiful did preach That needeth no preacher for it is its owne preacher and requireth no more but hearing and obedience 2. Thus also the vanity of that criticisme upon the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which before we had occasion to shew to have various significations is manifest for how could that which was already in every creature be said to be preached in every creature And when was this preached in every creature Was it from the beginning of the world This he must say or he saith nothing And doth this place prove that 3. The Gospel which was preached in every creature to follow the Quakers interpretation was the same Gospel which the Colossians had heard of their faithful Ministers and that was not a substance within them that belonged neither to soul nor body 4. The terme every creature is but an hyperbolick expression as the words following under heaven are a Pleonasmus shewing the large and illimited spreading of the newes of salvation to all Nations indifferently without Restriction or Exception whereby the New Testament is differenced from the Old Test. as we fully manifested Chap. VIII and is sufficiently explained vers 28. where every man must not betaken in its full extent as if Paul and the rest of the Apostles had spoken in the hearing of every man then breathing far less can it be meaned of every man that died before they were borne and are borne since their death Here also we hear of all wisdom yet we must not think that Paul and the rest taught Physicks Metaphysickes or Politicks c. 5. The Gospel which was preached to every Creature is explained vers 25. and called the word of God and vers 26. it is called the mystery which hath bin hid from ages and from generations but was now made manifest to his Saints But according to the Quakers Principles their Gospel light and seed was neveâ— hid but in all ages was in all and every one and alike manifest and clear in it self 6. The Gospel which Paul preached and whereof he was not ashamed Rom. 1 16. is that meane which God is pleased to make use of whereby to exert his power in the conversion of souls and upon this account is called the power of God So that the very preaching of the Gospel when blessed of God is a powerful meane of salvation being accompanied with faith in the hearers is a meane of begetting faith as Paul tels us Rom. 10. when he saith that faith cometh by hearing 7. He should have told us in what place of Scripture the word Gospel is taken properly in his sense for that inward Strength Power Life which is common to all Men for till he do this we shall account him but a babler 8. We deny all such thing within every man be it a substance or an accidens that offereth salvation and redemption from sins to every man And account it a greater Antichristian expression and assertion than ever Pelagius had the confidence to maintaine And beyond what any Socinian ever durst vent Yea I look upon it as a real and substantial overturning of the whole Gospel of the Grace of God and of our Salvation being nothing but pure paganisme and this Man doth hereby sufficiently declare himself to be a Pagan preacher 36. He addeth Pag. 105. That Paul saith Rom. 1. that in the Gospel was revealed not only the righteousness of God from faith to faith but the wrath of God also against all such as detain the truth of God in unrighteousness Ans. The Apostle saith no such thing but to confirme the absolute necessity of the Gospel and that there is no salvation to any â—ew or Gentile but by the Gospel he beginneth with the