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A08219 An epistle sent vnto tuuo daughters of VVarwick from H.N., the oldest father of the Familie of Love ; with a refutation of the errors that are therein, by H.A. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622?; Niclaes, Hendrik, 1502?-1580? Epistle sent unto two daughters of Warwick. 1608 (1608) STC 18553; ESTC S1318 62,756 66

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creator and the creatures between whose Being there is no comparison Which things if he would not learn of the H. scriptures because he scorneth scripture learning yet might he have learned of Philosophers and heathen men who have sayd that though by certayn demonstration it is manifest that a divine artizen hath procreated vs yet by no reason or wit can we perceave what his essence or being is That God is One alone separated from all who cannot be explayned nor perceived that he is the first simplicity incomprehensible incomparable vniform that he cannot be known or found out yea that it is neyther possible to find him out nor lawful to serch him out And many like speeches have the Pagans spokē of God more divinely soundly and religiously a great deal then this Epicure H. N. the God of the Familists hath written in his blasphemous pamphlets After he hath thus described the vpright Christian Baptisme as he sayth or washing in the name of the Father he proceedeth with his Baptisme in the Name of the Son of whom he sayth that he is conceived of the holy Ghost and born of the holy Virgin Mary And that thissame Son of God beareth in vs our synnes c. and that he vnder the obedience of the Love of his Father is gone before vs therin for that we should in like manner follow after him vnder the obedience of his Love in his death of the crosse to the safemaking of vs from our synns become incorporated to him with his like death and baptised or washed vnder the obedience of the Beleef in his Name or safemaking and bury even so through the beleef the old man c. to the forgiving and releasing of our synns through his name or safemaking to the end that we might even so through Iesu Christ obteyn the renewing of our spirit and mind in an vpright life and resurrection from the dead with Christ in the appearing of his Majesty And that this is the vpright Christian Baptisme in the name of the Son and is the true forgivnes and purging of our synns through Iesu Christ. And all that thus folow not Christ are no Christians nor yet baptised in the name or salvation of the Son Here is an other puddle of heresie for men to be washed in in the name of H. Ns Christ. Of whom he first telleth vs that he is conceived and born whereas we beleeve in that Christ which was conceived and borne now many yeres ago But the Nicholaitans have a Christ in them to weet their Lovely Being as before is shewed Neither is their fayth setled on one Jesus borne heretofore in Israel but they themselves are born of the virgin Mary as their Father H. N. teacheth them in his Gospel saying the vpright children of the beleef which had their discent out of the seed of the faith of Abraham and the pure virgin Mary as also from the holy Ghost were known to be the true seed of Abraham because the same seed was the seed of the promise of God the Father was likewise in his mind according to the spirit the likenes of God his Father also spirit spiritual of the godly nature being according to the wil of God wholly minded w th God These vpright children of the beleef ar the Familists themselves if we wil beleev them they are born of the holy Ghost and of the pure virgin Mary and are not onely their own saviours but as a little before in the same place he writeth the seed out of the faith of Abraham out of the pure Virgin Mary is the true seed of promise to the blessing of all generations of the earth Thus do these caytiffs take to themselves the honour of Christ and though the Prophet telleth vs but of one child that is born vnto vs which should be prince of peace should order and stablish the kingdome of David forever yet these tel vs of many children of the pure virgin Mary as being that seed of promise in whom al generations of the earth should be blessed How they have this strange birth we may gather by H. N. his learned interpretation of the name Mary which he sayth signifieth a Doctresse for the doctrine of H. N. is that wherby his disciples are born anew as elswher he expoūdeth that to be born of the virgin Mary out of the seed of David after the flesh is of the pure doctrine out of the seed of Lov. Now Mary caled in Greek Mariam in Hebrew Mirjam I find in the scripture to signify their rebellion Nehem. 9. 17. which name very fitly agreeth to the Familists Doctrine but how or in what tongue it signifieth a Doctresse themselves I suppose can hardly shew vnlesse vpon H. Ns authority who as he hath given them a new gospel so also a new language farr differing from the language of Canaan wherby they may make what meaning and gather what allegories they lyst from words and none must suspect any vnwisedome to be in them Secondly H. N. sayth that thissame Son of God beareth in them their synns wheras that Son of God in whom the scriptures teach vs to beleev hath washed vs from our synns in his own blood and put thē away by the sacrifice of himself for he was wounded for our transgressions his own self bare our syns in his body on the tree and died for vs. How erroneously then doth H. N. perswade that Christ beareth in vs our synns Thirdly he sayth that Christ is gone before vs for that we should in like maner follow after him vnder the obedience of his Love in his death of the crosse to the safemaking of vs from our synns so teaching vs to save our selves by imitation of Christ this being all the benefit we have by his death that it is an example vnto vs how to do likewise Wherin H. N. sheweth himself to be a greater enemy to Christianity then was Caiaphas who sayd it was expedient that One man should die for the people and that the whol nation perished not so prophesying that Christ should die for the nation wheras H. N. would have men die themselves for their own salvation that so they might all perish for ever But we have otherweise learned the true Christ who was delivered to death for our syns and is risen agayn for our justification That as by one man the first Adam syn entred into the world and death by syn and so death went over all men so by one man the second Adam Christ we might reign in life and as by one mans disobedience many were made synners so by the obedience of one many might he made righteous Fourthly H. N. teacheth that men are baptised vnder the obedience of the beleef in his name or safemaking and bury even so through the Beleef the old man
creator who is blessed for ever Amen To al then that H. N. can say for his own Godhed or his disciples let al true Christians answer as Jeremy taught the Jewes to answer the men of Babel The Gods that have not made the heavens and the earth shal perish from the earth and from vnder these heavens Ier. 10. 11. By this the reader may perceive what a poysoned religion this Nachash H. N. hath brought into the world concerning God Now for his Christ H. N. teacheth vs not according to the scriptures of one particular man of the stock and generation of the Jewes born about xvi hundred yeres agoe in Bethlehem who himself alone being God equal with the Father before the world was and in that fulnes of time took vnto him our humane nature bare in his own body the syns of al his elect and by that once offring of himself vpon the crosse hath purged them al from al their syns c. No H. N regardeth not as after in this Letter sect 11. he sheweth this knowledge that in times past ther was one Christ in Israel which was born amongst his own c. but telleth vs of a Lovely being and a holy life this is his Christ. For in his First exhortation he sayth walk with your spirit in the Lovely and vertuous Being Fasten your mind therto and build your righteousnes theron For that is an eternal and fast standing foundation wheron al Gods prophets and holy ones have builded and is Christ himself Agayn in the same book he sayth After a little time of your distresse and anguish or heavines the Lord wil bring his Christ that is his best beloved and most holy being in power and glory vnto you In this his Epistle to the two daughters he expoundeth Pauls words 1 Cor. 13. though I had al faith c. if I had not love it were nothing that is sayth H. N. whosoever hath not Christ he is with u● God th●rf●re also in an other place he caleth Love the vpright Being of Christ himself And because this Lovely life and being appeareth dayly fresh and new in those that come to the family of Love therfore they professe to beleeve not that Christ was but that he I●●●●●eived of the holy Ghost through the power of the most highest born of the H. virgin Mary And wheras the scriptures teach that Christ suffred for vs and for our syns H. N. 〈…〉 Christ beareth in vs our syns The scriptures teach that by the obedience of one meaning Christ many are made righteous he hath washed vs from our syns in his blood he was once offred to take away the syns of many and with one offring hath he consecrated for ever them that are sanctified H. N. teacheth vs that Christ vnder the obedience of the Love of his Father is gone before vs therin for that we should in like manner follow after him vnder the obedience of his Love in his death of the crosse to the safemaking of vs from our syns Thus must we save our selves by our own suffrings and Christ set forth vnto vs in the scriptures is but an example to teach vs what we must doe But what should I stand longer vpon this point for the Familists hold and professe that an obedient and godly life is Christ Iesus and so their doctrine of Christ agreeth with their former doctrine of God both being wretched and blasphemous Having thus opened the groundwork of H. Ns. religion it shal be the easyer to discerne his frawd in this Letter which I now wil particularly answer Let every one now through the same service of Love sayth this author be warned that he boast not himself in any of the works of righteousnes or take on the same to salvation neyther to condemnation before that he in the spirit of Christ though the love of the Father be renewed in al righteousnes of life In that H. N. sayth before he be renewed he playnly intimateth that his deadly error that after men are renewed they may boast in and take on their works to salvation contrarie to Pauls doctrine who sheweth that not onely the vncircumcision the vnrenewed Gentiles but also the circumcision the renewed Jewes should be justified of God by faith which faith excludeth mans rejoycing or boasting and al works of the Law He confirmeth it also by Abrahams example who though he were renewed in righteousnes of life had nothing to rejoyce of with God but was justified by faith alone and as he so we al shal have faith not works imputed to vs for righteousnes But H. N. speaking of the 10. commandements given on mount Sina caleth that law God 's eternal true living righteousnes that he would have to be erected through his people Israel vpon the earth and wherin al the children of men generations and heathen should live Wherin his doctrine is quite contrary vnto Pauls who sayth if ther had been a law given which could have given life suerly righteousnes should have been by the Law but the scripture hath concluded al vnder syn that the promise by the faith of Iesus Christ should be given to them that beleeve Now the way of life the Apostle had before shewed in the same chapter saying it is evident that no man is justifyed by the Law in the sight of God for the just shal live by faith and the Law is not of faith but the man that shal do tho●e things shal live in them H. N. therfore teaching contrary to the Apostle as we have seen even a miserable doctrine and false wisdome of the flesh which gendreth her own righteousnes is by th' Apostles commandement to be holden accursed Gal. 1. 8. And this gift of his hath no witnesse of the holy prophets or Apostles to confirm the same but by his predecessor Mahomet is wel approved for evē so did he teach the Turks That the Law of God is not impossible and intollerable howsoever the Apostles say the contrary Rom. 8. 3. Act. 15. 10. and that they which keep the the Law are joyned with God saved After this H. N. sheweth that he meanes not the elemetish ceremonial righteousnes but that which according to the heavenly truth is in the Being of Christ for this we had heard is his heavēly truth that every man should have the Being of Christ or be Christ himself His proof herof is The Father is not honoured but through the Son that is sayth H. N. no man may knowe or serve God but that he must be born out of the spirit of Christ. And thus he leadeth the daughters by degrees to their own new birth for their righteousnes and salvation and to maynteyn this heresie he corrupteth and abuseth the scripture Gal. 6. 15. wher Paul sayth against such as vrged Christians to be circumcised
mouth is the right confessing of Christ wherof the scripture speaketh No my beloved no the confession of Christ must stand in greater force or effect then to be confessed with the mouth in the ceremonical service which is a baptising with water or an other elementish confession H. A. HEre H. N. openeth his evil mind more playnly to the two daughters Whom hitherto he hath boarded with feighned flattering speeches First he is offended that m●n wil so boldly say they are Christians But we have no cause to be afrayd or ashamed of this name which is warranted in the word of God Act. 11. 26. 1 Pet. 4. 16. But to be caled The family of Love is a name that H. N. hath invented and taken to himself and his sectaries Secondly he speaketh of erring wayes when he hath not yet shewed any one error that we walk in but pratled against vs as the Apostle sayd of Diotrephes with malicious words Then coming to speak of confessing Christ he denyeth not the thing but stands vpon the meaning He inveigheth against the knowing confessing with the mouth of one Christ whom they read of in the scripture that in times past was born in Israel c. Wherin he teacheth open Antichristianity for our Saviour speaking of his own person that was born in Israel sayd except ye beleev that I am He meaning the redemer of the world which was promised ye shal die in your syns and agayn praying to his Father he sayth this is life eternal that they know thee the onely very God whom thou hast sent Iesus Christ. The Apostles preached this one man and no other who was born among his own of Davids seed after the flesh according to the scriptures they require a confession of this Christ with the mouth as well as beleef in him with the hart and did themselves confesse him with the mouth as ensamples vnto vs. Act. 2. 22. 23. c. 3. 13. c. But H. N. liketh not of this Christ nor of this manner confessing with the mouth he would perswade an other Christ bred and borne in his own fansie and corrupt imagination as before hath bene shewed and another manner confession doth he require which what it is let vs now examine H. N. 12. Mark wel what I write No man can confesse Christ among al those that wil confesse him vnlesse that he in his like being have his fashion or shape in him not according to the elementish ceremonies wherwith the one maketh another wise with the historical scriptures O no but according to the true being or flowing out of the Christian-like nature Through which Christian-like nature ther is subdued or brought vnder foot among al those wher the same is born out of grace the death Divel hel H. A. UUE mark wel that H. N. writeth for truth his own errors and deceits out of his corrupt hart No man sayth he can confesse Christ vnlesse that he in his like being have his fashion in him This is an vntruth of H. Ns. fiction he writeth thus but in the holy scriptures it is not so written For to confesse Christ is one thing to hav his fashion in vs is another thing the first may be wher the latter is not as the Apostle telleth vs of some that confesse that they know God but in works do deny him Tit. 1. 16. The confessing of Christ is with the mouth Rom. 10. 10. the having of Christs shape in vs is by fayth Eph. 3. 17. Phil. 3. 8. 9. which faith is in the hart and as th'Apostle sheweth Rom. 10. 10. these both confession with the mouth and beleef with the hart are needful to salvation It is possible for hypocrites to make a good and true confession of Christ with the mouth and yet in their harts not be partakers of the Christian or godly nature as Iudas Iscariot Simon Magus and others that were baptised and made Christs disciples by a true outward confession but it is vnpossible that any should have the Christian like nature in him in deed and truth but he wil also confesse Christ with his mouth or weep bitterly with Peter if through fraylty of the flesh he doe deny him Wheras therfore Gods word requireth both these in Christians and H. N. would draw these two daughters from the one namely from outward confessing with the mouth vnder pretense and colour of the other namely of having Christs shape within them he dealeth deceitfully and not according to truth It is as if he should allure them to fornication and when they alleged against him Gods Law Heb. 12. 16. Let ther be no fornicator c. he should answer true but the meaning you vnderstand not many suppose that the chastity of body is the right chastitie no my beloved no the godly chastitie must stand in greater force effect then to be in the outward or elementish body for so the Pharisees vnderstood the Law of old but Christ applyeth it against the lusts of the hart Mat. 5. 27. 28. If this reasoning be naught so is H. Ns. about confessing Christ. For as Gods word requiring chastitie intendeth it both of the body and of the mind so when it requireth confessing of Christ it meaneth both with mouth and hart as is playnly set down Rom. 10. 10. Other deadly poison hath H. N. here touched as where he sayth Christ in his like Being must have his shape in the man wherby he meaneth such a kind of trāsubstātiatiō as that Christ and the man should be one substance one being yea the Lovely vertuous being in man that is his Christ as before I have shewed This opinion is not possible to be warranted by holy writ but is the mere invention of this Antichristian Christ our redeemer is in his own substance and person in heaven at Gods right hand Mark 16. 19. Act. 3. 21. but we are on earth and Christ dwelleth not otherwise in vs thē by fayth Ephe. 3. 17. which faith purifieth the hart Act. 15. 9. and worketh by Love Gal. 5. 6. and fayth which is the evidence of things not seen apprehendeth Gods great and precious promises which are given vnto vs that by them we should be partakers of the godly nature in that we flee the corruption which is in the world through lust not by having the very substance and Being of God and of Christ as H. N. grossly imagineth and wayt with pacience for the second coming of our Lord in the clowdes of heaven at what time both the dead in Christ and those that are alive shabe caught vp in the clowds to meet the Lord in the aire and so shall we ever be with the Lord as th'Apostle sayth 2 Thes. 4. 17. An other damnable error H. N. here hath saying that through the Christian-like nature ther is subdued among all those where the same is born out of grace the death Divil and hell Wherby he would teach
vs to be our own saviours we our selves must conquer the death divil and hell for as wee have heard our own Lovely Being that is H. Ns. Christ. And wheras the Apostles teach vs that forgivnes of syns is by Gods imputation of Christs righteousnes and death and not imputing our syns vnto vs and that our fayth in Christ is imputed vnto vs for justice Rom. 4. 6. 8. 24. 25. 2 Cor. 5. 19. H. N. hath put imitation in stead of imputation saying that through the dayly God-service and offring in the Holy in the taking vp of our crosse in the Imitation of Christ in his death we obteyn the remission of syns Therfore he willeth vs to follow after Christ in his suffring for those are the dayes of affliction heavines and death wherin Christ hath gone before vs in the Holy for to prepare vs throuh the same death of the crosse the everlasting forgivnes and redemtion of syns Agayn in his book called The spiritual land of peace he telleth vs of an Instrument wherwith all enimies be overcome This instrument of victorie is the crosse of Christ not that which Christ of whome we read in the scriptures died himself on and triumphed in the same over the principalities and powers Col. 2. 15. but that which we bear in imitation of Christ it is named patience or sufferance such as is mentioned Heb. 12. 1. Iam. 5. 7. and it sayth H. N. is the true altar in the Holy vpon the which the true meat offring is that is given to the faithful beleeving travellers to eat and also the true drink offring that is given them to drink which meat offring is named the flesh or body of Iesu Christ and the drink offring is named the blood of Iesu Christ. And the same body and blood of Iesu Christ is vnto the constant faithful traveiler in the proceeding on in his pilgrimage a true mediator to lay away the syn in the flesh to establish the promises with him that are made to the Fathers Thus the things which are spoken of Christ and his oblation of himself and of our partaking therof by faith this man perversly applyeth to our own patient suffrings and maketh Patience to be our victory contrarie to the evident doctrine of the Apostle who sayth that it is Faith 1 Iohn 5. 4 5. Agayn the scriptures teach not that our Christianlike nature but that Christ himself in his own person for vs by death destroyed him that had the power of death which is the Divil and so delivered al vs his children which for feare of death wer all our life time subject to bondage Heb. 2. 14. 15. but H. N. teacheth that Christs death is our like suffring as appeareth by his First exhortation where he sayth that the man ought in his yongnes to learn to take vp his crosse on him to follow after Christ his Saviour in his like suffering and death of the crosse and to shew forth patience with Christ against all the assaultings vntil that all the enemies or adversaries of the Lovely life through the death of Christ that is in maner of suffering be vtterly vanquished By these wordes and the scriptures which he quoteth it is playne that he meaneth our own suffrings in imitation of Christ to be our vanquishing the enimies and our salvation which heresie he every where out of his own carnal wisdome vrgeth and perswadeth to the dishonor of our Lord Jesus and magnifying mens own sufferings and merits And if we look further what H. N. meaneth by his Death Divil and Hel we shal find these also to be idols and fictions of his own that in deed his victory is like his Christ even erroneous fabulous and blasphemous The holy scriptures teach vs of a death in syn when men are wholly given over therevnto Ephe 2. 1. contrary to which is a death to syn by sanctification of life Rom. 6. 2. They teach vs also of a death for syn that is a reward of eternal punishment in hel Rom. 6. 23. Gen. 2. 17. Iam. 1. 14. called the second death Rev. 2. 21. 20. 14. Vnto which the Divils and all reprobate men shal be condemned for ever and ever for their syns at Christs appearing Mat. 25. 41. 46. Now H. N. playing the part of the old Serpent which perswade Evah that she should not die perswadeth his disciples that here in this present world and life is death and hel so the judgement the fyre the condemnation threatned in the scriptures he maketh fantastical imaginations or humane affections For as with him the Love and to walk in the Lovely vertuous Being is Christ himself so on the other hand inveighing against them that speak evil by the service of Love and the minister of the same he sayth their false Being is the Divil the Antichrist the wicked Spirit the kingdome of Hel and the Majestie of the Divil himself Now the punishment for this is the Sentence which H. N. who as we have heard vaunteth that he sits on the throne of Christ to judge the world pronounceth his condemnation of the false Being is eternal death and hel fyre as appeareth by his Crying voice where he calleth al men to himself to Come al and cōfesse their syns and make known vncoveredly the inwardnes of their harts to the end that they may become justified or purged from all their synnes and received into the holy Communialty of the Love when as now in thissame day the wicked world becommeth judged with the Lords mighty hand Which wicked world sayth he is reserved or kept in store til vnto this same day of the Love to the fyre of hell for to be condemned in the self same day of the Love for evermore to her eternal cursing judgement of the fyers cruel vehemencie And a little after he addeth Verily now in thissame day when as now all vngodly and all selfwise with al vnrepentant persons and false harts of the scripture-learned c. inherite with much smart and grief in the vehement crueltie of the fyre of hel the terrible condemnation then shal the people of God namely the whol communialty of the Love of Iesu Christ c. rejoyce them in all Love c. And that this their joy is like Epicures in this present world and life and in their counterfeyt regeneration and godded estate he elswhere playnly confirmeth saying that in their citie of Peace there is a watchman on the wal therof that hath a trumpet named After-this-time-no-time-more and that the watchmā foūdeth out of the same last time as out of the last trumpet the sound of the everlasting life after the which there is no life more to be wayted for for the same life continueth for evermore Therfore in the conclusion of his Crying voice when he had bidden all Come now hither to the Love and her service he addeth Come now al hither to
the Paradise of your Lord and God c. Come in now all hither to the Paradise of the Love and pluck in her garden the tender Olives Become drunken with the wine of her soon-ripe grapes and embrace her to al concordable friendlynes Thus like an harlot he allureth men to his religion and imitateth the whore of Babylon which made the inhabitants of the earth drunken with the wine of her fornications For his vaine conceyted Lovely Being with the toyes and pleasures that men imagine in that estate is a fooles paradise wher men become drunken and besotted in syn and drowned in perdition This is H. Ns. heaven and they that are not here he thinks they are in hel yea playnly sayth in his new gospel that the second death is come and beareth dominion over the world and all vnbeleevers By this the discreet reader may see what a Christ and salvation H. N. doth teach and what a Death Divil and Hel the Nicholaitans or Familists doe subdue This wretched man seemeth to have written his books in scorn of al true religiō that Atheisme and Epicurisme vnder shew of religiō mought reign in the earth H. N. 13. Herevpon mought some men say ye would have the man perfect No my beloved no I speak not of the perfection of the man but I speak of the perfectnes which Christ ought to have with the man before he can be confessed or acknowledged The man in his vnregenerated spirit is vnperfect I speak not thereof but what he is that is he out of grace without cause of boasting 14. Therfore let every one look wel vnto it that he be not self-minded in his vncertayn forecasts or preconceiving but that he take heed or be wel advised whither he be worthy to receive the same grace of God H. A. THat which David sayth of the wicked man that his mouth is ful of deceit and frawd vnder his tongue is mischief and iniquitie is verifyed of H. N. in his deceitful writings He seemeth here at first as if he would not have the man perfect no my beloved crieth he at it no but presently from vnder his tongue floweth out mischief and iniquitie when he speaks of the perfectnes which Christ ought to have with the man before he can be confessed This is a depth of Satan to bring men into misery vnder colour of perfection and to abolish them from Christ whiles they may imagine he is perfectly with them Though Christ I mean the true Christ whom we professe not the idol which H. N. feighneth of the Lovely Being be in himself perfect yea perfectiou it self and though the work that he hath done for vs be also perfect because with one offring he hath consecrated for ever them that are sanctified and his blood hath clensed vs from all syn yet his work in vs is yet vnperfect even in the best men that ever confessed Christ whiles they lived on earth who therfore were taught every day to pray that their syns might be forgiven them and the Apostle Paul after he had long confessed and preached Christ truly sayth of himself Not as though I were already perfect and agayn I do not the good thing which I would but the evil which I would not that do I and agayn we know in part and we prophesie in part but when that which is perfect is come then that which is in part shal be abolished now wee see through a glasse darkly but then shal we see face to face c. But H. N. by an other spirit which perswadeth him that he is like God yea Godded with God writeth of his citie or communialtie and those that are come vnto it that as then there is no more evil nor evil suspition nor yet sight of evil in them for within the same one doth neyther see nor think any thing els but all good joy rest and peace in the everlasting life Such a societie hath yet never been heard of on earth since Adams fall neyther doth the historie of the bible shew vs any such church onely it telleth vs ther is a generatiō y t at pure in their own eyes which yet ar not washed from their filthines Pro. 30 12. If the Familists be this generation they may rejoyce in the sparks of the fyre that they hav kindled til they shal lie down in sorow As for vs we have learned of a better teacher that there is no man iust in the earth that doeth good and synneth not but in many things we syn all for syn yet dwelleth in vs and if we should say we have no syn we should but deceive our selves and the truth were not in vs. Yet know we that our confession of Christ is acceptable vnto him because he pardoneth all our iniquities and healeth al our infirmities hath washed vs from our syns in his blood and wil not impute them vnto vs. Wheras H. N. to help the matter sayth The man in his vnregenerated spirit is vnperfect he followeth but his wonted course to deceive the readers for none are so grosse as to think the vnregenerated man is perfect neyther is this the question between him and vs but whither the regenerated be perfect or no which H. N. erroneously holdeth but cannot prove we contraryweise have proved that the Apostles and other Christians were regenerated but not perfect whiles they lived here on earth among men Phil. 3. Rom. 7. 1 Cor. 13. Iam. 3. H. N. 15. Now mought ye say we encline or endevour our selves therafter so much as we may for we have given our selves to the Christian-like baptismey and supper of the Lord. 16. Oh my beloved that were very wel if it were even so in the truth for ther ar many that boast themselves of the baptismey of Christ and they have not known him in any world For were they baptised in Christ then should they have put on Christ even like as Paul sayth to the Galathians 3. so many of you as are baptised have put on Christ. 17. I would gladly now ask of al those which say they have received the Christianlike baptismey how or after what maner Christ hath a shape or fashion in them I am verie sure that they all for the most part should be deceived and should find themselves vnmighty or weak in that Being of Christ wherin many should make manifest themselves that they have not received the baptismey of Christ but their own baptismey 18 Everie one therfore that is vpright of hart and seeketh the truth in Christ vnpartially let him prove himself how he hath put on Christ according to the spirit And if he then finde not the stirring of the holy spirit of Christ in him then let him advisedly look sharply yea sharply herevnto that he boast not himself of the Christianity but let him humble himself before the might of the Lord and trust vpon his grace H. A. THe
c. to the forgiving and releasing of their synns Where agayn he perversly applieth that to obedience and mortification which is due vnto faith For when the Eunuch would be baptised Philip required nothing of him but to beleeve and Paul sayth to him that worketh not but beleeveth in him that justifyeth the vngodly his faith is counted for righteousnes Although therfore obedience to the faith must be given by all true Christians and they which are baptised into I. Christ are baptised into his death and buriall yet is not this done to the forgiving and releasing of their synns as H. N. Pharisaically inferreth but to shew forth the fruit and force of faith wherby the just doe live and lay hold on Christ whom God hath set forth for a reconciliation though faith in his blood to declare his righteousnes by the forgivnes of synns that ar passed through the pacience of God Wheras therfore H. N. doth gather from the premisses that this which he hath set down is the vpright Christiā baptisme in the name of the Son is the true forgivnes purging of our synns through Iesu Christ he is found a false witnes against God and Christ and would give vs a synful sink of error even a vayn perswasion of our own obedience righteousnes and sanctification to wash our selves in and hath royled with his feet the pure fountayn of Christs blood which clenseth all beleevers from all syn That vpon himself his own words may justly be retorted he boasteth himself of the baptismey of Christ and he hath not known him in any world Of like leven is H. Ns baptisme in the name of the holy Ghost which he maketh to be also the second birth out of the holy Ghost the true love of God Christ. And this even as the former of baptising in the name of the Father and of the Son we must not vnderstand of any outward action by the minister of Christ washing with water as did John the Baptist nor yet to be done at one and the same time with the former but as H. N. sayth in the oldnes of time when the dayes of the patience of Christ in the obedience of the holy and gracious word his service of Love are fulfilled that is when men have walked long ynough in the Familists religion that then the holy Ghost becommeth powred forth through Iesus Christ vnderstanding H. Ns Christ to weet the Lovely being over them all that have followed Christ in his death of the crosse obediently that is which have saved themselves from their synns by their own fantasticall suffrings and have kept his doctrine with the word of his patience even vnto the end Thus hath this deceiver of minds drawn all Gods ordinance of Baptisme which with men is outward and was by the Apostles admininstred with materiall water vnto a blasphemous imagined Being and conformity with God or regenerated estate and the holy doctrine of Justification by forgivnes of synns through the blood of Christ shed for vs and sealed vnto vs in baptisme he hath wiped away vnder colour of Sanctification or deification by our own following of Christ. Which things he teacheth by the same spirit that the Serpent taught Evah not to fear the outward eating of the forbidden fruit seing she should be like vnto God knowing good and evil H. N. 19. After such a like maner witnesseth Paul of the supper of Christ wher he sayth so many of you as have eaten of one bread are become partakers of one body Hath any man now rightly vsed the supper of Christ the same is then become partaker of the body of Christ according to the mentioning of the scripture 20. Therefore see vnto it yea see vnto it everie one which sayth that he hath fulfilled the service of Christ or would be a disciple of Christ. For those services and ceremonies which are ministred through the comandement of the holy Ghost out of a Christianlike Being they have the promises whiles they are rightly obeyed that should receive the pledge of the godly inheritance which is the holy Ghost And where that cōmeth not to passe vnto them ther is not the Christian service ministred let them make them then so like fashioned to the scripture as they wil. For whatsoever is served without the spirit of Christ it is an abomination before God therein may everie one think freely H. A. That which is here sayd of the supper of Christ if an honest faithful mā had written the same might wel be yielded vnto for in the words ther would lurk no frawd But coming from this old seducer H. N. and being affixed to his former heresies I deny that after such a like manner as H. N. before treated of Bapisme Paul witnesseth of the supper of Christ. For Paul sayth not that we ar one Being with Christ but that we are the body of Christ and that the bread which we break is the communion of his body which body we eat and have communion with by faith not really and essentially as fleshly men imagine and we ar caled the body of Christ not properly but figuratively by way of similitude and in great mystery for as a man joyned to a woman is one flesh so he that is joyned vnto the Lord is one Spirit But as the woman notwithstanding her conjunction is not the man neyther hath the Being of the man so the church notwithstanding her conjunction is not Christ neyther hath the Being of Christ but by faith is coupled vnto him as he sayth by the prophet I will mary the vnto me in faith Now that H. N. hath the like grosse understanding of the Lords supper as he shewed before of Baptisme appeareth not onely by his entrance saying After such a like manner c but also by his words in his Gospel wher speaking of the Passover he sayth Christ gav his disciples to drink out of the cup which is his passion his true blood which is his holy life of the New Testament Thus applyeth he all things about Christ to a holy life even then and there wher it is playnly spoken of death For though blood whiles it is in the body is the life of the same yet when it is shed out of the body as Christ ther sayth his was it signifieth death not the life of the party as also the Apostle testifieth so oft as ye eat this bread and drink this cup ye shew the Lords death til he come And as David would not drink the water that came out of the well of Bethlehē because it was the blood of the men that fetched it that is because they jeoparded their lives vnto the death to fetch it so we when we drink the wine out of the cup in the Lords supper doe drink the blood of Christ that is his death which for our synns he did vndergoe But H. N. by
N. is but a carnal worldling to love his elementish life more then Christ and teach men so vnder colour of forsaking our own wicked life and life of the Divil If the prophets and Apostles had known this deep vnderstanding which H. N. conceiveth and had not thought they were also bound to lay down the natural and elementish man they would never have endured such things in their flesh as is witnessed of them What needed Shadrach Meshach and Abednego to have changed the kings commandement and yielded their bodies to the fyre rather then they would serv or worship his image or Daniel have jeoparded his life among the Lions or Stephen have been stoned to death for confessing of Christ or others to have been racked scourged prisoned hewen asunder slayn with the sword c or what meant the Apostles to shew vs these patterns and wil vs to take the prophets for an example of suffering adversity Was is not thinketh H. N. a great overshooting or misunderstanding in al these to teach both by word and practise that afflictions should be suffred in the natural or elementish man Or rather had not al these holy martyrs first layd down the spiritual synful life and then gave vp the natural life also How cōtrary then is this H. N. to al holy men that ever were or wrote that thus disswadeth frō the outward crosse vnder pretence of inward holynes Therfore let vs al y t lov the Lord Jesus say Anathema to such false prophets as thus teach doctrine cōtrary to the scriptures for to favor the flesh avoid afflictiō as is best pleasing to their sēsual minds Let the same mind be in vs that was in Christ Jesus who besides the troubles and anguishes in his hart humbled himself and became obedient vnto the death evē the death of the crosse And he which suffred these things for vs hath left vs an ensample as sayth the Apostle that we should folow his steps who his own self bare our synns in his body on the tree And let vs learn with Paul to take pleasures in infirmities in reproches in necessities in persecutions in scripes and prisonment in hunger and thirst in cold and nakednes and al other anguish for Christs sake for when we are weak then are we strong and this is a part of our mortification and denyal of our selves vnto which when true faith and obedience in the spirit is adjoyned God 's work goeth forward in vs towards perfection the end wherof wil be everlasting life H. N. 25. Oh comprehend I beseech yow the vnderstanding We our selves have not made the natural mā wherfore he cannot belong vnto vs. For the heaven with the earth and al that is therin belongeth vnto God and it is Gods pleasure and will that al shaped creatures so wel the manly creature as any other of al those which God hath created should live and that it mought goe wel with them 26. What shal the man then forsake that he mought be reconciled to God not any thing els but his own life that is the man of syn which hath so long lien hidd in the hart of man which is the temple of God and hath sayd that he was God 2. Thes. 2. H. A. IT is hard to cōprehend any good vnderstanding in any thing which H. N. doth write he is so ledd with the spirit of error in al his wayes yet may we comprehend that his first reason here is against himself we have not made the natural man wherfore he cannot belong vnto vs. Very true but God hath made it therfore it belongs to him If he made it and it be his then may he require it when he wil and we must not deny him his own Now he requireth it when for witnesse of his truth men wil shed our blood though they doe it vnjustly yet his requiring is just and we may not deny him or his truth for the saving of our lives as before is proved Of this reason therfore which H. N. bringeth we may say with the prophet his sword hath entred into his own hart His next reason is a depth of iniquity for seeming to plead for God he seeketh to draw men from God Gods wil is sayth he that al shaped creatures so wel the manly creature as any other should live that it might goe wel with thē So then to save their natural lives y e Familists think they may deny forswear Christ al true religion may cōmunicate with al idolatrie worship of divils if Princes vpō payn of death shal so cōmād This was the intendement of this present Letter sent to two maydens that refused as it seemeth the idolatrous Masse and subjectiō to the Romish Antichrist with hazard of their lives This is the dayly practise of the Nicolaitans H. Ns disciples who rather then they wil suffer imprisonment banishment death or the like for their religion wil joyn with Papists Protestants Arrians Anabaptists or any religion if the magistrate authorize and cōmand it For though they hold that their God of Love as they cal him is the true living God and besides him ther is no God more and his Gods-service of Love which they minister vnder the obedience of his Love is the true safe-making Gods-service and besides the same ther is not any Gods-service more neyther in heaven nor yet in earth yet wil they partake with any of the Godservices vsed in the world though they be contrary one to another For H. N. in his new Gospel complayneth that many have vnorderly rejected and blasphemed the services and ceremonies of the catholik church of Rome rented the concord nurturable sustentation of the same turned them away therfrom even so out of their knowledg which they took out of the scripture brought in certayn services ceremonies in another wise or order c. But his disciples in England which land hath rejected and departed from the catholike church of Rome as many other nations have doe pretend in their late supplicatiō to the King y t they ar his true faithful loyal and obedient subjects to al his lawes and ordinances spiritual temporal and doe deny that they vary or swarve frō the now established religion in this land eyther in services ceremonies sermons or sacraments Thus eyther H. N. or these his folowers or both must needs be hypocrites that so doe write and professe of two adverse churches and religions when in deed they approve of neyther but think as H. Ns Co-elder avoucheth that they which remayn without them and their Communaltie and without the Requiring of the gracious Word and his Service of Love or withdraw them selves therfrō have no living God nor yet true God-service but are without God and without Gods-service in this world yet notwithstanding this their judg mēt and profession rather then the manly creature should die they wil
may give al wise men occasion to suppose that he teacheth in secret commune filthynes even the doctrine of the old Nicolaitans which God doth hate In secret I say for his lothsome carnal abominations he wil not openly publish though he hath published too much eyther to the world or to his yong disciples but this caveat he hath given to his fautors ye shal not talk of your secrets eyther yet vtter your mysteries opēly or nakedly in the hearing of your yong children and disciples but spare not the same in the ears or hearing of the Elders which can vnderstand the same and are able to bear or away with the sound therof For it is given to the Elders to vnderstand the privy mysteries of the wise and to expound their parables This is the counsell of H. N. touching the secrets of his religion quite contrary to the counsel and practise of Christ his prophets and Apostles for Christ sayd to his Disciples what I tel yow in darknes that speak ye in light and what ye hear in the ear that preach ye on the howses and when the Prophets opened their mouthes in parables and declared high sentences of old they would not hide them from their children but shew thē that posterity might know it and children which should be born might declare vnto their children c. But the deep mysteries of H. N. must not be disclosed because as it is writtē every mā that doth evil hateth the light and the morning is to thē as the shadow of death wherfore his doctrine is like the foolish womans which sayd Stollen waters are sweet hid bread is pleasant but let al Gods people know that the dead are there and that her ghests are in the depth of hell Now though he wil not let his yong-anes know his secrets yet he wil be so bold as to know their secrets and hath taught them to shrive them vnto him with farr greater spiritual slavery then the Antichrist of Some hath done For H. N. in his First exhortation after he had warned his children not to distrust the Eldest in the Family of Love nor suspect any manner of evill or vnwisdom by him sayth Fourthly it is expedient that they should make manifest their whol hart with al their counsels minds wils and thoughts togither with al their doings dealings exercises naked and bare before the Eldest in the Family of Love and not cover or hide any thing be it what it is before him Also al whervnto their inclination kind and nature draweth them and al wherwith they become tempted or assaulted in their harts The Pope requireth but confession of mortal not of venial syns But this tyrann H. N. wil know al be it what it is yea even mens natural inclinatiōs Now be it his wisdome was much overseē to make such a law for this may cal his Godhed into questiō make mē think he is but a Liar whiles he would be a God for our Lord Jesus knew the thoughts of men and had no need that any should testify of man for he knew what was in man If H. N. be godded with God what needeth he that men should thus make known their inclinations and actions vnto him But his disciples are wel ynough served that wheras the Romish priests did whip thē with rods these their Godded Priests should scourge them with scorpions Finally this H. N. teacheth almost every where in his abominable books the doctrine of that old Serpent ye shal be as Gods saying that his people have their inhabiting in Gods vnderstanding stand cōprehended in the light of life being vnited in Gods true being that they are one being with ech other namely God his people of peace that God the Father through his onely born son Christ is become of one substance agayn with the manly creatures and to that end also because that al manly creatures should through Christ be one substance with God the Father is Christ preached that when as we are renewed in Jesus Christ through faith also come to the same age of the man Christ so is God the Father thē likewise one substance or māned with vs through Christ is al in al that it is Gods wil that now in the last tyme through his service of love al people or generations of men which are goodwilling to his righteousnes should assemble them vnto him and his godded man H. N. and even so likewise with them al that which is manly to the end that they all should become of one being with him and his godded man and so be al named Gods and children of the most highest These and many the like blasphemies wherby he quite overthroweth the Being of God as before is proved ar often to be found in his writings For which also that he might the more imitate the first serpent which sayd God doth know he allegeth and corrupteth the holy scriptures that if he be Antichrist which should sit in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God as Paul warneth this H. N. may be known to be a great Antichrist and al the world may see Caiaphas prophesied not righter of Christ and of his death for the nation then H. N. hath spoken when he cried out of the Antichrist to be so neer vnto him It is very true H. N. 28. Oh what a slight and earthly vnderstanding is this that God should be appeased with an elementish body even like as though that God were fleshly even as an vnregenerate man 29. I say on Gods behalf that God is not in that manner of sort with the man but rather the vngodly being or nature which all vnregenerated men do cary in their harts wherout al wickednes is ingendred and brought forth Read Mark. 7. Mat. 23. and in more other places in the scriptures wher the same is rcited or mentioned 30. Therfore my beloved this is the counsel of God towards yow both that yow should not boast yourselves in such an vncertayn confessing but for the love of Christs sake take it for the best which I hav here witnessed vnto yow namely that yow have not confessed Christ according to the truth but the elementish ceremonies even as they out of the darknes without the Spirit of Christ wer taught vnto yow Not that I therin do accuse or blame any man as one that doth evil of a set purpose O no for they know not any other then that they doe vse the doctrine of Christ. But my harty desire is towards every one which say that they seek Christ that they mought seek and find him aright H. A. OH what a slight and serpentlike subtilty is this that H. N. should abuse and deprave the words and actions of Gods servants in this manner as if by their meek and patient suffrings for Christs sake they thought to appease God w th