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A25573 An Answer to the Athenian Mercury, vol. 4, numb. 14, concerning infant-baptism with an account of divers queries sent by the author (and some others) to the Athenian Society, which they have not yet answered : to which are added, some remarks by way of reply to their Mercury on the same subject, num. 18, published Novemb. 28. 1691 (1691) Wing A3386; ESTC R15319 31,117 26

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and_o knowledge_n of_o his_o word_n and_o not_o rather_o in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o man_n who_o have_v endeavour_v with_o all_o the_o art_n and_o cunning_a they_o can_v to_o draw_v pretend_a consequence_n for_o it_o though_o after_o all_o they_o do_v not_o natural_o and_o genuine_o follow_v from_o the_o premise_n to_o which_o they_o reser_fw-ge eleven_o whether_o christ_n have_v express_o mention_v the_o qualification_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v baptise_a viz._n actual_a repentance_n faith_n and_o the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o thereby_o exclude_v all_o those_o who_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o those_o qualification_n twelve_o whether_o it_o do_v not_o reflect_v upon_o the_o care_n wisdom_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o jesus_n christ_n who_o as_o a_o son_n over_o his_o own_o house_n exceed_v the_o care_n and_o faithfulness_n of_o moses_n to_o affirm_v infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptise_a and_o yet_o it_o can_v be_v find_v in_o all_o the_o new_a 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