with_o the_o uncircumcised_a to_o the_o nether_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n etc._n etc._n with_o they_o that_o go_v down_o to_o the_o pit_n etc._n etc._n now_o although_o we_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o these_o place_n hell_n may_v be_v expound_v of_o hell_n as_o hierom_n do_v yet_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o place_n will_v rather_o lead_v we_o to_o take_v it_o for_o the_o grave_n first_o because_o there_o be_v two_o word_n add_v which_o be_v proper_o so_o take_v as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bhor_v which_o signify_v a_o pit_n and_o be_v translate_v by_o the_o 70_o sometime_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sometime_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o descend_v into_o the_o pit_n or_o cave_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chever_z also_o which_o proper_o signify_v a_o grave_n be_v join_v with_o the_o rest_n who_o grave_n be_v make_v in_o the_o side_n of_o the_o pit_n ezech._n 31._o 23._o second_o the_o phrase_n of_o speech_n also_o give_v this_o sense_n ezech._n 31._o 18._o 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and_o mean_a estate_n in_o a_o earth_n as_o to_o be_v bear_v in_o a_o stable_n etc._n etc._n live_v 1056._o in_o poor_a estate_n etc._n etc._n some_z b_o of_o his_o humiliation_n to_o the_o last_o and_o low_a point_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o death_n and_o the_o grave_n some_o of_o his_o descend_v into_o the_o womb_n of_o the_o virgin_n but_o as_o his_o ascend_n be_v but_o one_o exaltation_n so_o his_o descend_v be_v but_o one_o humiliation_n ans._n p._n 55._o contra._n 1._o concern_v the_o descend_v of_o christ_n into_o the_o virgin_n womb_n i_o know_v none_o that_o do_v now_o much_o urge_v it_o reverent_a beza_n do_v demur_v upon_o it_o say_v i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n to_o consider_v 2._o the_o other_o locum_fw-la two_o exposition_n may_v well_o agree_v and_o stand_v together_o and_o he_o that_o affirm_v the_o one_o deny_v not_o the_o other_o further_o in_o make_v but_o one_o degree_n of_o christ_n humiliation_n you_o cross_a s._n paul_n who_o make_v two_o degree_n as_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d add_v here_o to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v particularize_v and_o distinguish_v the_o part_n of_o the_o earth_n in_o general_a from_o those_o notorious_a infernal_a part_n ans._n p._n 55._o ans._n 1._o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a and_o preposterous_a speech_n to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n and_o a_o ridiculous_a cavil_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v not_o proper_o bury_v in_o the_o earth_n but_o in_o a_o rock_n as_o though_o rock_n be_v not_o to_o be_v count_v part_n of_o the_o earth_n our_o saviour_n say_v he_o shall_v be_v three_o day_n and_o three_o night_n in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o earth_n matth._n 12._o 40._o then_o sure_o he_o be_v proper_o in_o the_o earth_n for_o it_o be_v his_o body_n not_o his_o soul_n that_o be_v so_o long_o in_o the_o earth_n his_o soul_n i_o hope_v they_o will_v not_o shut_v up_o in_o hell_n three_o day_n and_o three_o night_n see_v the_o scripture_n say_v in_o their_o sense_n his_o soul_n shall_v not_o be_v leave_v there_o and_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n soul_n do_v not_o enjoy_v his_o father_n presence_n in_o heaven_n all_o the_o while_o it_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o body_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n thou_o will_v show_v i_o the_o way_n of_o life_n and_o shall_v make_v i_o full_a of_o joy_n with_o thy_o countenance_n act._n 2._o 28._o origen_n make_v christ_n soul_n but_o one_o day_n in_o hell_n upon_o these_o word_n he_o shall_v raise_v we_o after_o two_o day_n prima_fw-la dies_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o first_o day_n to_o we_o be_v the_o passion_n of_o our_o saviour_n secunda_fw-la qua_fw-la descendit_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o second_o wherein_o he_o descend_v to_o hell_n the_o three_o of_o the_o resurrection_n hom._n 5._o in_o exod._n 2._o further_o the_o grave_n that_o christ_n be_v lay_v in_o be_v wide_a and_o deep_a for_o at_o once_o three_o woman_n go_v down_o 12._o into_o it_o and_o two_o angel_n be_v see_v at_o once_o in_o it_o with_o what_o sense_n then_o can_v you_o exclude_v it_o from_o be_v part_n of_o the_o earth_n 3._o your_o article_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d will_v not_o help_v you_o a_o rush_n for_o 〈◊〉_d both_o psal._n 63._o 9_o and_o psal._n 139._o 15_o the_o article_n be_v add_v and_o yet_o neither_o of_o these_o place_n be_v understand_v of_o hell_n as_o be_v show_v before_o ans._n to_o object_n 1._o the_o part_n then_o of_o the_o earth_n be_v not_o compare_v with_o itself_o but_o consider_v as_o part_n of_o the_o world_n in_o respect_n whereof_o they_o may_v be_v call_v low_a or_o low_a part_n object_n 6._o bellarmine_n to_o prove_v this_o place_n to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o descension_n of_o christ_n soul_n into_o hell_n urge_v these_o word_n that_o follow_v that_o he_o may_v fill_v all_o thing_n vers_fw-la 10._o and_o so_o visit_v all_o part_n of_o his_o kingdom_n 13._o in_o earth_n hell_n and_o heaven_n contra._n 1._o if_o you_o will_v have_v christ_n to_o fill_v all_o place_n with_o his_o local_a presence_n what_o differ_v this_o opinion_n from_o the_o ubiquitaries_n that_o make_v a_o omnipresence_n of_o christ_n flesh_n 2._o christ_n fill_v all_o place_n with_o his_o gift_n thing_n and_o benefit_n as_o the_o apostle_n show_v afterward_o he_o have_v give_v some_o to_o be_v apostle_n etc._n etc._n 3._o augustine_n show_v how_o christ_n not_o by_o any_o local_a presence_n but_o by_o his_o divine_a power_n fill_v all_o thing_n nec_fw-la tamen_fw-la dei_fw-la localem_fw-la fingimus_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la non_fw-la mundum_fw-la dimittens_fw-la ad_fw-la coelos_fw-la ascendit_fw-la nec_fw-la coelum_fw-la deserens_fw-la ad_fw-la terram_fw-la venit_fw-la sed_fw-la uno_fw-la eodemque_fw-la tempore_fw-la totus_fw-la totum_fw-la implevit_fw-la act._n cum_fw-la felic_n c._n 17._o neither_o do_v we_o imagine_v a_o local_a presence_n of_o god_n he_o leave_v not_o the_o world_n to_o ascend_v to_o heaven_n neither_o for_o sooke_v heaven_n and_o come_v to_o the_o earth_n but_o at_o one_o and_o the_o same_o time_n fill_v all_o in_o all_o and_o such_o be_v their_o objection_n reason_n confirm_v the_o right_a exposition_n of_o this_o text_n argum._n 1._o first_o our_o saviour_n say_v joh._n 3._o 13._o no_o man_n ascend_v to_o heaven_n but_o he_o that_o descend_v from_o heaven_n the_o son_n of_o man_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o s._n paul_n say_v in_o that_o he_o ascend_v what_o be_v it_o but_o that_o he_o have_v descend_v first_o into_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n ephes._n 4._o 9_o one_o of_o these_o place_n expound_v the_o other_o to_o descend_v then_o into_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v to_o descend_v from_o heaven_n to_o the_o earth_n for_o our_o saviour_n and_o paul_n speak_v of_o the_o same_o descension_n not_o of_o diverse_a argum._n 2._o where_o christ_n visit_v thither_o he_o descend_v but_o he_o do_v not_o visit_v hell_n therefore_o he_o descend_v not_o thither_o the_o proposition_n can_v be_v doubt_v of_o the_o assumption_n be_v thus_o prove_v where_o christ_n visit_v he_o visit_v to_o redeem_v luke_o 1._o 68_o bless_a be_v the_o lord_n god_n of_o israel_n because_o he_o have_v visit_v and_o redeem_v his_o people_n he_o visit_v they_o to_o the_o end_n to_o redeem_v they_o but_o he_o redeem_v none_o in_o hell_n ergo_fw-la he_o visit_v not_o hell_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o no_o descension_n thither_o argum._n 3._o the_o low_a point_n of_o christ_n humiliation_n be_v the_o low_a point_n of_o his_o descension_n this_o be_v confess_v his_o ascension_n be_v but_o one_o exaltation_n prove_v that_o his_o descend_v likewise_o be_v but_o one_o humiliation_n ans._n p._n 55._o so_o long_o then_o as_o he_o descend_v he_o be_v in_o his_o humiliation_n if_o christ_n shall_v be_v exalt_v in_o his_o descension_n it_o
be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v he_o ascend_v in_o descend_v but_o this_o be_v absurd_a as_o origen_n note_v genes_n if_o we_o diligent_o consider_v we_o shall_v find_v that_o never_o any_o be_v say_v to_o descend_v into_o a_o holy_a place_n or_o ascend_v to_o a_o unnoble_a place_n christ_n then_o do_v not_o begin_v to_o be_v exalt_v while_o he_o be_v descend_v but_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o christ_n and_o suffer_v upon_o the_o cross_n and_o so_o consequent_o his_o grave_n be_v the_o low_a point_n of_o his_o humiliation_n philip._n 2._o 8._o he_o humble_v himself_o and_o become_v obedient_a unto_o the_o death_n even_o the_o death_n of_o the_o cross_n ergo_fw-la christ_n descend_v no_o further_o then_o to_o the_o cross_n and_o his_o grave_n argum._n 4._o christ_n ascend_v from_o that_o place_n whether_o he_o descend_v but_o he_o ascend_v not_o in_o soul_n from_o hell_n ergo_fw-la he_o thither_o descend_v not_o the_o proposition_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o apostle_n word_n now_o in_o that_o he_o ascend_v what_o be_v it_o but_o he_o descend_v first_o vers_n 9_o the_o assumption_n be_v thus_o prove_v of_o the_o nativity_n life_n death_n resurrection_n ascension_n and_o all_o other_o action_n perform_v by_o our_o saviour_n the_o apostle_n be_v witness_n act._n 4._o 20._o we_o can_v but_o speak_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o have_v see_v and_o hear_v 1._o john_n 1._o 1._o that_o which_o we_o have_v hear_v see_v with_o our_o eye_n and_o our_o hand_n have_v handle_v of_o the_o word_n of_o life_n declare_v we_o unto_o you_o but_o the_o apostle_n neither_o see_v nor_o hear_v of_o christ_n ascend_v out_o of_o hell_n but_o only_o from_o the_o earth_n act_v 1._o 9_o while_n they_o behold_v he_o be_v take_v up_o ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n argum._n 5._o to_o descend_v into_o the_o deep_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o to_o descend_v into_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n with_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o christ_n be_v all_o one_o this_o be_v grant_v ans._n p._n 12._o out_o of_o luke_n 8._o 31._o but_o to_o descend_v into_o the_o deep_a be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v among_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v in_o the_o grave_n and_o not_o in_o hell_n rom._n 10._o 7._o who_o shall_v descend_v into_o the_o deep_a that_o be_v to_o fetch_v christ_n again_o from_o the_o dead_a thus_o origen_n expound_v this_o place_n if_o any_o man_n in_o mind_n roman_n and_o thought_n descend_v into_o the_o deep_a think_v christ_n there_o only_o to_o be_v contain_v as_o though_o it_o be_v all_o one_o and_o a_o like_a to_o call_v he_o from_o the_o dead_a &c_n &c_n he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o like_a phrase_n to_o descend_v into_o the_o deep_a and_o to_o fetch_v christ_n from_o the_o dead_a ergo_fw-la christ_n local_a descension_n be_v but_o to_o the_o grave_n argum._n 6._o how_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o in_o what_o sense_n it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v that_o place_n show_v psalm_n 139._o 13._o thou_o have_v fashion_v i_o in_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o septuagint_n read_v in_o the_o superlative_a but_o here_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o comparative_a if_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o earth_n do_v not_o signify_v hell_n the_o low_a shall_v much_o less_o object_n to_o use_v the_o comparative_a for_o the_o superlative_a be_v a_o phrase_n and_o form_n of_o speech_n very_o usual_a among_o the_o grecian_n so_o that_o here_o it_o may_v very_o well_o be_v take_v for_o the_o superlative_a to_o signify_v the_o low_a part_n ans._n p._n 51._o ans._n 1._o we_o do_v not_o much_o stand_n upon_o this_o point_n for_o the_o syrian_a and_o latin_a translator_n do_v read_v here_o ad_fw-la inferiora_fw-la to_o the_o low_a or_o inferior_a part_n beza_n ad_fw-la infimas_fw-la part_n to_o the_o low_a part_n for_o whether_o we_o read_v low_a or_o low_a the_o sense_n be_v the_o same_o for_o the_o earth_n compare_v with_o other_o part_n of_o the_o world_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o low_a or_o low_a part_n 2._o yet_o who_o can_v be_v ignorant_a but_o that_o where_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o sense_n urge_v not_o to_o expound_v the_o superlative_a by_o the_o comparative_a as_o it_o do_v in_o all_o these_o place_n by_o the_o answerer_n allege_v matth._n 11._o 11._o and_o 23._o 11._o mark_n 4._o 31._o 32._o and_o in_o the_o rest_n yet_o where_o the_o sense_n so_o urge_v not_o as_o in_o this_o place_n it_o do_v not_o and_o especial_o where_o the_o common_a dialect_n be_v use_v as_o in_o scripture_n most_o a_o end_n the_o comparative_a degree_n be_v to_o be_v translate_v proper_o by_o itself_o and_o whereas_o the_o answerer_n find_v not_o fault_n with_o the_o latin_a translator_n for_o expound_v the_o superlative_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o greek_a psal._n 139._o 13._o by_o the_o latin_a comparative_a inferiora_fw-la low_o how_o much_o fit_a be_v it_o to_o translate_v the_o comparative_a by_o the_o comparative_a as_o the_o latin_a text_n do_v here_o argum._n 7._o i_o will_v now_o last_o adjoine_v the_o exposition_n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n origen_n say_v paulus_n quoniam_fw-la descensionis_fw-la christi_fw-la mysterium_fw-la praedicat_fw-la profundum_fw-la nominavit_fw-la quasi_fw-la de_fw-la superioribus_fw-la ad_fw-la inferiora_fw-la venientis_fw-la homil_n 2._o in_o genes_n paul_n because_o he_o preach_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n descension_n into_o hell_n he_o name_v the_o deep_a as_o of_o one_o come_v from_o the_o high_a to_o the_o low_a part_n and_o again_o the_o same_o origen_n thus_o write_v descendere_fw-la deus_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quando_fw-la curam_fw-la humanae_fw-la fragilitatis_fw-la habere_fw-la dignatur_fw-la quod_fw-la specialiùs_fw-la de_fw-la domino_fw-la &_o saeluatore_fw-la nostro_fw-la sentiendum_fw-la est_fw-la descendit_fw-la ergo_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la alius_fw-la ascendit_fw-la quam_fw-la qui_fw-la descendit_fw-la descendit_fw-la ergo_fw-la dominus_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la curare_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o portare_fw-la quae_fw-la nostra_fw-la sunt_fw-la hom._n 4._o in_o genes_n god_n be_v say_v to_o descend_v when_o he_o vouchsase_v to_o take_v care_n of_o humane_a frailty_n which_o more_o special_o be_v to_o be_v think_v of_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n he_o descend_v therefore_o for_o none_o other_o ascend_v but_o he_o that_o descend_v the_o lord_n therefore_o descend_v not_o only_o to_o care_n for_o but_o to_o carry_v our_o nature_n augustine_n also_o thus_o witness_v est_fw-la quaedam_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la habitatio_fw-la angelorum_fw-la illae_fw-la pars_fw-la rerum_fw-la superna_fw-la est_fw-la haec_fw-la terrena_fw-la vita_fw-la ubi_fw-la caro_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la si_fw-la illi_fw-la comparatur_fw-la inferna_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o his_fw-la sunt_fw-la mortui_fw-la ne_fw-la mireris_fw-la si_fw-la infernum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la in_o psalm_n 85._o there_o be_v a_o certain_a heavenly_a habitation_n of_o angel_n that_o be_v the_o high_a part_n of_o thing_n this_o earthly_a life_n where_o flesh_n and_o blood_n be_v if_o it_o be_v compare_v to_o that_o be_v the_o low_a part_n for_o see_v there_o be_v dead_a here_o marvel_v not_o if_o it_o be_v call_v hell_n although_o augustine_n in_o the_o word_n follow_v seem_v to_o incline_v to_o the_o opinion_n of_o christ_n descension_n to_o deliver_v the_o patriarch_n think_v notwithstanding_o that_o abraham_n be_v not_o in_o hell_n yet_o in_o this_o sentence_n he_o show_v this_o to_o be_v no_o strange_a sense_n to_o expound_v the_o earth_n in_o respect_n of_o heaven_n to_o be_v the_o low_a part_n theodoret_n upon_o this_o text_n thus_o write_v his_o descend_v do_v not_o signify_v any_o pass_n from_o place_n to_o place_n but_o teach_v the_o greatness_n of_o his_o dispensation_n that_o when_o he_o be_v most_o high_a he_o abase_v himself_o so_o much_o and_o endure_v so_o great_a abasement_n he_o interprete_v as_o we_o do_v of_o christ_n humiliation_n and_o abasement_n here_o in_o earth_n bernard_n opinion_n we_o have_v see_v before_o that_o he_o make_v three_o degree_n of_o christ_n descension_n ad_fw-la carnem_fw-la ad_fw-la crucem_fw-la ad_fw-la mortem_fw-la to_o the_o flesh_n to_o the_o cross_n to_o death_n 18._o and_o the_o graus_fw-la now_o whereas_o diverse_a father_n be_v produce_v as_o irenaeus_n athanasius_n ciprianus_fw-la epiphanius_n hierom_n augustine_n ambrose_n chrysostome_n with_o other_o as_o witness_n of_o christ_n descension_n in_o soul_n to_o hell_n p._n 56_o first_o all_o these_o be_v allege_v by_o bellarmine_n with_o twenty_o more_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n in_o soul_n to_o deliver_v the_o 4._o patriarch_n from_o thence_o wherefore_o unless_o he_o therein_o concur_v with_o they_o they_o be_v no_o fit_a witness_n to_o speak_v in_o his_o cause_n second_o neither_o do_v all_o the_o father_n agree_v in_o judgement_n that_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n to_o redeem_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o father_n origen_n