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A14828	A dialogue betwixt a secular priest, and a lay gentleman. Concerning some points objected by the Iesuiticall faction against such secular priests, as haue shewed their dislike of M. Blackwell and the Iesuits proceedings..	Mush, John.; Watson, William, 1559?-1603.	1601 (1601)	STC 25124.5; ESTC S101830	96,830	158

highest Priest when all the rest of our Sauiours Apostles were forced to flie away or else had beene sure by all morall coniecture to haue in the Iewish furie tasted of their Lord and maister his cup of torments at least if not of death but also being then free and neuer once examined what he thought of his maister Iesus he was able of his bare word to bring in his fellow S. Peter who if an vnhappie girle had not been might haue stayed there still without any sinne or offence committed by that action And yet in and by a Iesuiticall censure they had been certainely condemned as spies if they had escaped scotfree as S. Iohn did and S. Peter might if no worse matter had happened vnto him than that his personall presence there Was good old Ioseph thought to bee a Statist or should our blessed Ladie or Nicodemus as timorous as most of our English schismatickes are haue had a scruple or doubt of beeing betrayed in going to take downe and entombe the bodie of God her onely Iesus because the said Aramathian found more than ordinarie fauour at the high priests hands in obtaining of him to burie it where he thought good Was the blessed Magdalen suspected to bee a worse woman for that that she was permitted of the souldiours to passe and repasse to and from the sepulchre vntouched of them Was Saint Paule condemned of any one for hauing leaue being prisoner to goe where he lift for any to come to him that would and for that Festus that Felix that king Agrippa and others vsed him kindly often sent for him and would not permit his countreymen the Iewes to haue their bloudie will satiated when and as they desired In few were any of these that found more fauour than their fellowes in any time of persecoution ouer heard of to be iudged censured and condemned as spies as daungerous persons as reprobates or fallen from their faith before this day No certainely The Iesuits amongst many innovations in the Church of God haue brought this in first of any other for one scillicet That all men fortunes graces fauours and actions whatsoeuer should bee euill thought of which were eyther beneficiall to any without a commoditie to their soeietie or not squared agreeing to their trecherous proceedings or but onely done without their consent ratibition allowance and liking Well as their pride their enuie and their mallice hath been vnspeakeable herein so their teares their bloud and all their liues if they were giuen and bestowed in recompence and way of satisfaction will neuer bee able to rince out that staine of their good names which they haue charactered in their torne consciencelesse heart and credite which they haue lost thereby in the hearts of all other vertuous wise and sound Catholickes naturall Englishmen and women of all degrees As for their other generall slaunders That the matter in contention was once alreadie decided at Rome and therefore would they make the world beleeue That the Secular Priests were seditious turbulent and factious persons and also That they the said Priests are the onely Statesmen and meddlers statizing more daungerously than they the said Iesuits doe Hispanize or Spanifie c. the one and the other are both most false meere calumniations forgeries and slaunders without any truth in the report or broachers of them abroad and very sensibly prudently and learnedly are they here confuted and their shamefull dealing trecheries and impietie couertly discouered thereby together with the foysting in of that poore simple man Maister Blackwell into an office and authoritie hee little knew God wot what it meant or what treasonable practises were intended to bee wrought by him Finally there doe here occurre to be well considered as a point in my mind of as great a drift moment and consequence as any wee yet touched the panigeries of the Iesuits praises the causes moouing them to send foorth their spirits to course both sea and land with bugle blasts of bloudie Bellonaes menaces to all that dare presume to contradict a Iesuit and the extreame follie madnesse lunacie or what to tearme it I know not in sundrie of the Catholicke Laitie yea and of the more vnlearned and lesse experienced sort of Priests that will beleeue euery word to be an Oracle that falleth from a Iesuits lips in so much as once one sayd That if such a Priest a follower and factor of the Iesuits faction should bid him hang himselfe he would doe it that cannot be otherwise persuaded but that all the whole Church and Common-wealth of Christendome depends vpon these impotent aspirers that stand stiffely in it as a thing impossible how euer the Secular Priests should preuaile against such rare peerelesse Sance-peres that thinke it no way agreeing to Catholicke Christian doctrine how euer such pure illuminats who haue as they say of themselues a more neare familiaritie with God than any other priests should euer faile in points of faith good life gouernement and order in all things that their liues words and acts haue beene touched to the quicke and euer hetherto haue been found faultlesse spotlesse and as a man might say immaculate without crime for to the same end dooth one Father Holtbies speech in a rayling letter tend as written to a Catholicke ladie of no lesse noblenesse for her vertue than for her bloud against all the Apellants in generall but against a reuerend Priest maister Mush by name whose bookes Holthie is vnworthie to carrie in speciall that they are the most learned the most prudent the most vertuous the most religious the most what not perfection on earth is in a Iesuit with the contraries in all others to be found These straunge paradoxes as they presage a high marke which the Iesuits aime at and therewithall a heauie ruine so doe they demonstrate a sencelesse witlesse and idle braine in those that doe beleeue them that cannot see into them that will not be informed of their daungers by following their vnnaturall faction and therewithall prognosticate a sorer absurder and a more mischeeuous heresie if not Antichrist himselfe to bee brought in by them than euer yet was heard of in the Christian world to this houre For how is it possible vnlesse the dolorous date of mans miseries be well nigh spent and wee the miserable wretches reserued to liue in these heauie dayes of the Churches last calamities that euer any issuing out of Adams loines should be so ignorant of Natures frailetie in man as these Iesuit fautors seeme to be by this sencelesse attributing vnto them a state of innocencie in a sort aboue that wherein our Plasmist created our protaplast in terrestriall Paradise Mans wit though it haue suffered a great diminution by our protoparents fall as all the rest of the parts and powers in humane nature haue yea euen synderisis is not exempted but seemeth in many to be extinguished rather than to haue any being at all yet these sparkes of Natures light are left in

entised to become Iesuits Againe he condemned their gouernement in that for very trifles they would discontent and afflict the students yea and vpon light occasions disgrace them dismisse them before their time and taking displeasure indaunger for a toy to breake and ouerthrow men of many good parts and expectation He was wont to say that the gouernours of that Colledge and their fellowes in England had a greater respect to their owne interest or benefite in both places than to the common good of our country Gent. If he had thus mistiked them why beeing in authoritie made he not redresse thereof Priest VVithout peraduenture hee misliked no lesse than I haue told you but why he reformed not all I know not certainely He was of a mild and of a quiet naturall disposition euer vnwilling to take any rough or seuere course or to giue the Iesuits so great disgust as he must haue done if he should haue reformed what was needful These mislikes he had of their proceedings both in England and in Rome made knowne vnto them by sweet and friendly admonition caused them to account and report him to bee their aduersarie VVhat would they haue done thinke you if either he had remooued them from the gouernement of the Colledge or recalled them out of England Gent. During his life all was well in England and in that Colledge of Rome also Pr. It was not so euill in either place then as since his death it hath bene but yet he perceiued well how in England the Iesuits little tendred the good credit of our priests and how that the more they had dealing among the ablest sort of Catholikes the more decaied the maintenance of our seminarie at Doway or Rhemes the customary almes not comming from England to it as before there did when the secular priests had more doing By reason of which want that seminarie the mother of all the rest and then much better to our nation than all the rest with it are at this day decayed euery yeare more and more in the Cardinals time And for the Colledge at Rome it was often in his time also in great tumult and garboile by reason of the contentions betweene the Iesuits and schollers which euer the gracious Cardinall pacified againe and suppressed before it gaue scandale abroad by his quiet wise and moderat dealing with both parties Yet haue I heard him much complaine of the Iesuits headie and vndiscreet gouernement and say their gouernment is naught and they will neuer amend it for they will not heare aduise whilest I liue I shall keepe all downe but after I be dead yee shall see the schollers and them at wofull dissentions Gent. It is strange the Iesuits beeing good men they should rule so ill Priest It is not strange for it is vsuall in all estates That the best men are not the best rulers If a man lacke the gifts of prudence of justice and discretion of sinceritie and of compassion in his actions be he otherwise neuer so great a Saint hee shall neuer gouerne well The generall of the Iesuits order that now liueth was often wont to say to our Cardinall that hee could haue store of learned and vertuous men but he found very few good gouernors among his subjects which is a defect as I said common to all orders and sorts of people Cardinall Allen would say that Fa. Creswell the Iesuit once a turbulent Rector in the English Colledge at Rome was a good man and fit to be a subject but the vnfittest to be a superiour of any man that euer he had knowne For said he his delight was to bee afflicting the schollers and it was all one to bee an orderly or disorderly man vnder him because if they were externally vnruly he would punish them and if externally they obserued their rules he would yet be euer displeased and vexing them saying That in their hearts they were ill disposed and that they conspired against him to obserue the rules in outward shew onely to the intent he should not giue them pennances Gent. This was very foolish proceeding in a gouernment it argued an vndiscreet and busie head Priest I tell it you as the Cardinall told it me but let vs goe forward to shew that they be not alwayes in Fa. Parsons bad predicament whome the Iesuits account their aduersaries VVee haue said of Cardinall Allen. Now let vs come to Cardinall Borromie the late Arch-bishop of Millaine famous for his vertue and wisedome throughout all Christendome The Iesuits reckoned him among their aduersaries for I haue heard a Iesuit say it Gent. VVhy should that blessed man be thought or reckoned their aduersarie Priest Not surely for that hee either hated or disliked any vertue in them but because they saw him to mislike condemne and resist their ordinarie disordered proceedings in the gouernement of his seminaries For perceiuing thē euer to be diligently fishing among his schollers to draw the best and most towardly of them into their societie whereby in short time his Churches were to lacke sufficient Pastours and to bee greatly damnified hee tooke from them the gouernement of his seminaries and committed them to discreet secular priests VVhich prudent fact of his being as they interpreted it both to the Iesuits some dscredit and detriment how could they but reckon him their aduersarie Cardinall Toledo also who had beene one of their societie from his youth the first Cardinall of their order was not hee in like manner reputed their aduersarie as well before his promotion as after Gent. I haue heard some Iesuits report hardly of that man for crossing them in many things and amongst the rest in the gouernement of the English Colledge at Rome when he put thē all from thence except foure and reformed the gouernment to the great comfort and good of our students as long as that good Cardinall liued Some also of them reported disgracefull things of his death Pr. If they conceiue a man to be their aduersarie he shall be assured to want their good word but yet notwithstanding the disgracefull reports some here haue made of his death I haue heard one in whose armes it is said he gaue vp the ghost testifie That he made a vertuous end The Iesuits will not denie but that they haue aduersaries in France yea Catholicks which concurred to their expulsion thence and still resist their bringing in againe VVhat will they affirme all the French nation which bee their aduersaries the King the Cardinals the Bishops the inferior Cleargie the Diuines the Vniuersities the Nobilitie the Gentrie and all the people together to be in Fa. Parsons gracelesse predicament and to be bad men If they presume thus farre who will beleeue them But before the generall banishments of the Iesuits out of Fraunce they euer accounted the Vniuersitie of Paris and many Prelats and lay men to haue been their aduersaries or heauie friends when there was no suspition of joyning against them with an