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A20393 A dialogue. VVherein is plainly laide open, the tyrannicall dealing of l. bishopps against Gods children vvith certaine points of doctrine, vvherein they approue themselues (according to D. Bridges his judgement) to be truely the bishops of the Diuell. Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name.; Marprelate, Martin, pseud, attributed name. 1589 (1589) STC 6805; ESTC S109672 18,572 34

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A DIALOGVE VVHERIN IS PLAINLY LAIDE OPEN the tyrannicall dealing of L. Bishopps against Gods children vvith certaine points of doctrine vvherein they approoue themselues according to D. Bridges his judgement to be truely the Bishops of the Diuell MA●●CH 2.7 8 9. The Priests lippes shoulde preserue knowledge and they should seeke the law at his mouth for he is the messenger of the Lorde of hostes But ye are gone out of the way ye haue caused many to fall by the lawe ye haue broken the couenaunt of Leui. Therefore haue I also made you to be despised and vile before all the people because ye keepe not my wayes but haue bene partiall in the lawe A Dialogue vvherein is plainely laid open the tyrannicall dealing of Lord Bb. against Gods children The speakers are these Puritane Papist Jacke of both sides Idoll minister Puritane YOu are well ouertaken sir doe you trauell far this way I pray you Jacke Towards London sir Puritane I shall willingly beare you companie if it please you Jacke With all my hearr I shall be very glad of yours Puritane From whence came you this way Jacke I come out of France Puritane Out of what part of France came you I pray you I came from Rochell my selfe which is a part of France Jacke It is so but I came not neere that place Puritan Out of what parte of Fraunce came you then Jacke I came from Orleans Puritan I pray you what newes from thence is there any likelyhoode of peace there Jacke Yes surely there is some hope of peace for where the Kings powers come they doe commonly yeelde presently Puritan It is a good hearing Jacke What is he that comes after vs so fast Puritan He seemes to be some preacher or dumb minister it may be he goes our way if he doe I hope we shall haue his company whereby wee may passe away way the time in some good conference also heare what newes there is at home here in England Jacke I am content Sir for I shal be glad to heare some good newes me thinks I haue bin very long absent from hence Puritan Very wel we will goe the softlier that he may overtake vs but by the way I pray you if you came from Orleans there they haue the masse for they are of the league then I suppose you haue bin partaker of their Idolatrie Jacke Noe I assure you I detest al Idolatrie euen from my hart Puritan If you doe so I am very glad of it but I pray you let me heare if you can giue me some profe out of the word of God for the confirmation of this your protestation against Idolatrie Jacke I am wel content to giue you a taste thereof whereby it shal appeare that I am far from it For so deerly as I render the saluation of mine own soule so careful am I to shun and fly from all Idolatrie For it is written Deut. 6.13 Thou shalt worship the Lorde thy God and him onely shalt thou serue And the Apostle Paule to the Corinth 1. Epist cap. 10. verse 14. commaundeth vs to Flye from Idolatrie for Idolatrie is sinne and the wages of sinne is death c. Puritan It is wel applied somwhat to the purpose I am very glad if it be done in singlenesse of hart For me thinks you could not possibly be in that place but you must be forced to be present at their Idolatrous Masse Jacke I was neuer present at it in my life I thanke God but the Papists sticke not to say that our service booke in english is a greate parte of it but a meere translation out of the masse booke Puritan Indeede it is true that some parte of our booke of common prayer as they say is a meere translation out of the masse booke but yet there is no such blasphemie and Idolatrie tollerated in it as is dyalie in the masse although it greatly derogate from the worde and is full of greate and greuous corruptions But I pray you howe long were you in Orleans Sir Jacke I was there about a fortnight Puritan Noe longer Jacke Noe Sir Puritane Here comes the minister nowe wee will heare what newes he can tel vs he semes to be but an Idole shepheard we shal haue some good conference with him I hope to passe away the time Minist You are well overraken gentlemen which way trauel you I pray you Puritane Towards London and if it please God Minist I shall be gladd of your company and if it please you Puritan We also shall be glad of yours Sir Jacke I pray you M. Vicker or parson for so you seeme to be what good newes is there here at home in England for we haue bin both of vs in Fraunce we would gladly here some good newes Minist Indede I am a poore Vicker truly we haue no greate good newes here Sir for our Church is so sore pestered with sects scismes that the reuerende fathers and especially my Lords grace of Cant. are so sore troubled with them that they haue no leasure to recreate them selues for those fellowes they are so bolde and mallepert that they preferre petitions to her maiestie the Lords of the counsell yea in print to the high court of parliament Puritane Why sir what be they that do this what doe you cal them are they papists Minist No they are worse then papists for they are fantasticall puritans and Brownists and I can not tel what Puritane What be the points they holde that are so scismatical and erronious Minist Forsooth they woulde haue no Lorde Bb. but every minister to be of equal authoritie one with an other and so make a confusion in the whole state for they haue set downe a newe platforme of Discipline sorsoth as they cal it they cannot tel what them selues Puritane I will tel you my opinion of Lord Bb. it is but an humaine constitution and not warrantable by the worde but vtterly forbidden Minist O I perceue you are one of these fantastical puritanes or Brownists I pray you out of what place of Fraunce cam you Puritane I came from Rochel Minist I thought from Rochel Geneua or Scotland you seeme to be a birde of one of those nests Puritane Sir whatsoeuer I am I doe not dout but to be able to prooue by the word what I haue saide namely the vnlawfulnesse of Lord Bb. Minist Sir that point hath bin handeled by your betters and manifestly confuted by my Lords grace in his writings against Cartwright Puritane In deed he that will be blinde cannot see it but he that looks in both their works with a single eie cannot but confesse M. Cartwright to haue confuted him by vnanswerable evidences or els why would he not haue answered M. Cartwrights workes nowe a dozen yeares extant and more Minist As you of the fantasticall crue thinke but he hath done it and that so sufficiently alreadie that there needs noe more answeres and againe his grace is