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A85549 A true reformation and perfect restitution, argued by Silvanus and Hymeneus; where in the true Church of Christ is briefly discovered here in this life in her estate of regeneration, as also her persecution in the life to come, as it hath been foretold by all the holy prophets and Apostles, which have been since the world began. / By J.G. a friend to the truth and Church of God. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1643 (1643) Wing G1595; Thomason E55_10; ESTC R212817 46,091 47

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Who is weak and I am not weak who is offended and I burne not remember them that are in bounds as bound with them and them that suffer adversity as being our selves also in the body So saith Saint Iames the wisdom that is from above that is the children of wisdom of whom Ierusalem from above is Mother to all is first pure then peaceable gentle and easy to be intreated full of mercy and good fruits and Saint Paul saith their fruit is love joy peace long suffering gentlenesse goodnesse faith c. They are filled with peace and joy in believeing and it is given unto them not only to believe but to suffer for his sake that is for the sake of their beloved Lord and Redeemer I might be large in all these excellencies but I know you can inlarge them in your minde Friend Hymeneus Hym. How can this excellent Church be miserable Silv. The Apostle answereth in these words If in this life only we had hope we were of all men the most miserable so that the misery hath only respect to this life Hym. How can that be Silv. Paul and Barnabas makes it clear saying we must through much tribulation 〈…〉 the Kingdom of God this suffering and tribulation was it that was the cause why our Lord in these words comforts his Church Feare not little flock it is your Fathers pleasure to give you the Kingdom for none shall raigne with Christ in the world to come but he that suffers with him in this life Now as it was in Abraham's Family between Ishmael and Isaack so is it now between the outward and false Christian and the inward and true for then as he that was borne after the flesh persecuted him that was borne by promise so is it now saith the Apostle the Christians in name onely which are overcast with a profession of Religion cleane in skin and not in heart like the Pharisees lay claime to be the true Church and call her that is so indeed barren forsaken and desolate and cast her out with termes let God be glorified and such like when notwithstanding with hatred they beate her so the Church cryes out in one place My Mothers Children were angry with me when they were no more the true Mothers Children then Ishmaels which was not Sarahs but the bond-womans neither were the Pharisees the children of the promise though Abraham's after the flesh nor righteous although they justified themselves This Jerusalem that is from below the common Christians I call them so because they are not capable but of common gifts of which they may partake and perish and except they repent so it wi●l be with them yet notwithstanding these fi●l the world with voices of the Church of God the cause of Christ bragge and boast of their righteousnesse duties and performances when notwithstanding they never yet knew what it is that is the true worship of God the acceptable sacrifice they bragge of their prayers their fasts and their charity and yet know nothing at all of either as they are the offerings and sacrifice of the truly faithfull but as the fat cattle the Prophet speaks of push gore and oppresse the leane so do these whole hearted faire rich fat and full seeming comfortable Christians contemne and despise the humble the low and emotie although notwithstanding the Lord filleth the emptie with good things and sendeth the rich emptie away I could inlarge my self in this exceedingly having felt their cruelty and oppression as being slighted by them dayly and made as the dirt in the street under their feet by treading dayly upon me but as they are men for and of this world so we will leave them to it and proceed to shew you how miserable the Saints are here in this life in regard of their own corruptions the flesh lusteth against the spirit and many times so captivates it that they cry out Oh wretched Men that we are who shall deliver us from this body of death what is worse then a dead body amongst the living and yet so and worse are the corruptions of Gods people to their pure mindes vexed and grieved by them dayly as Righteous Lot in Sodom inclosed by them in a Citie whose buildings are transgressions whose streets are wayes of error whose bul warks are the strength of death whose gates do lead to hell which makes them to dye dayly to be tormented dayly and cry dayly to be delivered from sin and from the body thereof Lastly the misery of Gods people is aggravated by the devill for so saith the Apostle he goth about like a roaring Lion seeking whom he may devoure And so it is said The Devill shall cast many of you into prison The righteous man Iob had miserable experience of this adversary Misery in regard of the destruction of his wealth misery in the losse of his health and misery to his mind in regard of his wife and his childrens death besides the many temptations against his soul and this the Apostle knew well which moves him to exhort the Corinthians on this wise For I am jealous over you with Godly jealousie for I have espoused you to one husband that I may present you as a choyse Virgin to Christ for I feare lest by any meanes as the Serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ Hym. You have clearly proved the miserable sufferings of the Church in all these particulars you promised but is your meaning that the Church shall never be free in this life I meane from misery and sufferings by mens persecution and Sathans their sworn enemies Silv. So long as there is any enemy that is so long as death and sin raigne so long shall Gods people suffer and undergo misery Hym. Then your meaning is to the end of the world Silv. You understand me truly Hym. How answer you this Scripture And Sathan was bound for a thousand years and the Saints lived and raigned with Christ a thousand years this is the first resurrection Silv. This error of the Millenaries is ancient and as groundlesse in the text you alleadge as many more new mistakes are which were all forged in the Devils work-house of lyes and that they may all be answered if truth will do it by their turns they shall be tried and condemned Hym. The Millenaries first alleadge the words of Saint Paul to the Thessalonians The dead in Christ shall arise first that is say they there shall be a generall Resurrection of all the Martyrs and righteous people a thousand years before the generall Resurrection and they shall have great plentie and riches abounding in worldly felicilic and greatnesse injoying Christs bodily presence in this corruptible earth grounding their opinion on the twentyeth chapter of the Revelation as I said before where it is said Sathan shall be bound for a thousand years and they lived and raigned with Christ a thousand years this is the fi●st
And the Iudgement of the enemie follows And the Devill that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and Brimston where the beast and the false Prophets are and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever And so the holy Ghost goes on in the description of the generall ●udgement by describing first the Iudge himself in these words And I saw a great white Throne and him that sate on it from whose face the earth and the heavens fled away and there was found no more place for them And so proceeds to describe them that are judged And I saw the dead small and great stand before God and the books were opened That is all those meanes were manifested and those severall ways by which the Gospell and way of salvation had been preached to them whether they had the Scriptures or the Creatures or only the more secret dictates of conscience all which preached the word of grace and although it prove a Savour of death to some yet to others a Savour of life by every of those books as it followeth And another book was opened which is the book of life and the dead were judged out of those things which were writen in the books according to their works c. There needs no Paraphrase the Scripture is so clear to prove the thing intended Hym. It doth appear to me that the Millenaries opinion hath no ground in the Scriptures they alleadge yet I must tell you plainly in my judgement the Resurrection is past already proved by your self in your description of the first Resurrection Silv. That was an old error which S. Paul condemns in his 2 Epistle to Timothy where he taxes one of your name saying their word doth fret as doth a gangrene of whom is Hymeneus and Philetus who concerning the truth have erred saying the Resurrection is past already and overthrow the faith of some Hym. Shew me how that doctrine may be said to overthrow the Faith Silv. This doctrine is the Religion of Homo-novus or of the new-man falsely so called in plaine termes the Familists doctrine who turne the whole Faith of our Lord Iesus Christ into an allegory affirming Christ to be a quality saying righteousnesse is Christ and sin is Antichrist teaching that all the Articles of the Creed are fulfilled in every one of their illuminated ones and that now they themselves are dead and buried raised and ascended set at the right hand of the Father descend and come and judge the world the quick and the dead that they are the holy Catholique Church that they only are the forgiven people and have the Communalty of the Saints and enjoy life everlasting infinitely succeeding one another in this coedified condition affirming also that God is cohominified with them and so this estate and condition even this present evill world to continue for ever saying that as we come from God so againe we return to God at our death affirming no other Resurrection then from that sinfull estate to be illuminated in which illumination they say they are conceived of the holy Ghost born of the Virgin Mary c. Hym. You know the Apostle speaking of two seeds of Abraham one born of Hagar the bond woman the other of Sarah the free woman and he saith that by them another thing was meant Silv. As at the first I told you that Christians when they speak they ought to speak as the word of God that is according to the meaning of the Scriptures for though Saint Paul say the two seeds are an allegory in regard of the two Covenants that either stood in the one thereby the child of death the other the child of life Yet he doth not as you do make them nothing but an allegory turning the person of our Lord Iesus Christ into a quality and the person of Antichrist into sin which is no substance but a privation of good take heed of this Hymeneus for it calls to my mind the Apostles words who saith that such doctrine to the soul is as dangerous and destructive as a gangrene is to the body which is inevitably destructive for nothing can prevent the saving of the next member but the death the cutting off of that which is but infected Hym. I am sure if I be mistaken in my opinion yet that which you have delivered in other respects concerning the short time of this worlds continuance crosses most Ministers opinions both in new England and here too Silv. What is that which they teach that I have said doth oppose their Tenents Hym. They almost all with one consent hold the nationall calling of the Iews and that there shall be a great and glorious estate of the Church both of Iews and Gentils alleadging all the Prophets that speak of the deliverance of Syon from all her Captivities and bring the Jews into their own Land out of all Countries whither they have been disperst and scattered Silv. What Scriptures do they bring to prove that the Nation of the Iews shall be called and brought out of every Countrey into their own Land Hym. The 11 Rom. in these words I would not Brethren that you should be ignorant of this mystery lest you should be wise in your own conceits that blindnesse in part is hapned to Israel untill the fulnesse of the Gentils be come in And so all Israel shall be saved as it is written c. Silv. In these verses there is not one word of the Nationall calling of the Iews but shews that the Apostle declared to the believing Romans a Mystery to take off their vaine boasting of themselves who thought that God had forsaken the seed of Abraham wholly and therefore he secretly reproves them and saith It was but a part of the seed that was hardned or blinded as in the seventh verse he clearly distinguisheth between the Elect part and the rest what then Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for but the Election hath obteined it and the rest were blinded or hardned and in this verse he saith They shall be hardned untill the fulnesse of the Gentils be come in that is for ever Agreeing with the Prophet l●t their eyes be darkned and bow down their backs alwayes thus God putting no diff●rence between the Iews and the Gentils extends his free grace to both for the calling of the full number of his Elect in all the world and so all Israel shall be saved that is the whole house even every one f●reknown and chosen of God shall be c●lled sanctified and saved both Iews and Gentils throughout the world and this word saved hath respect unto the estate of perfection in the world to come according to the Prophet Esays words Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation he shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end That is all Gods Elect wheresoever of all kindreds tongues nations and people Hym. In this Scripture it doth not appeare there is any