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A85827 A discours apologetical; wherein Lilies lewd and lowd lies in his Merlin or Pasqil for the yeer 1654. are cleerly laid open; his shameful desertion of his own cause is further discovered; his shameless slanders fullie refuted; and his malicious and murtherous mind, inciting to a general massacre of Gods ministers, from his own pen, evidentlie evinced. Together with an advertisement concerning two allegations produced in the close of his postscript. And a postscript concerning an epistle dedicatorie of one J. Gadburie. By Tho. Gataker B.D. autor [sic] of the annotations on Jer. 10.2 and of the vindication of them. Gataker, Thomas, 1574-1654. 1654 (1654) Wing G319; Thomason E731_1; ESTC R202124 96,485 112

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pleases all this wind shal shake no corn at all with me As Symmachus sometimes if my memorie fail me not Nullius neqitiatanti est ut ●●t● me o digna sit None of all his scurrilitie at the most and the highest shal mov me one jot I shall but smile at the mans simplicitie and laugh at his follie if he be so sillie as to suppose anie that read him so senseless that they can by him be induced to believ the things to be tru and real that here he writes of me So that herein he doth but as Jude speaks foam out his own filth and as Solomon of the foolish proclaim his own folly For mine own part I account them but as words of cours with Mr. Lilie and as Bio said in the like case am no more affected with them then as if he bid me Good morrow No● would I blot paper with such base unsavory stuff save onelie to let those see who it may be have not light on his Book or looked into it what sweet flowers of his usual rhetorick they ar like to find it fraught with and that such as otherwise do not so wel know him may judg of the man by the manner of his writing To call a man Theif or a woman Whore I have heard some say wil bear no action at Law but to say You are a theif and stole such a matter from such an one or You are a whore and were taken in bed with such a man wil. And the reason hereof seems because those general and indefinite terms ar deemed stomackful words onelie whereas in the other there is a charge with particular matter of fact Had this Railer therefore kept himself within this compass and contented him with such general base and foul terms I should never have troubled either my self with writing or anie other with reading these lines For as for those particulars that he snaps at concerning some Autors that I qote how sorry poor idle frothie frivolous yea and fals his exceptions and allegations ar wil soon appear unto anie that shal be pleased to take so much pains as to consult the Annotations and Vindication of them that ar everie where together abroad For example All I write on Jer. 10. 2. he saith I prov by Strabo Lucian Plinie and Cicero whereas of Lucian I have not anie one word there the other three I cite joyntlie onelie to shew That Astrologers were ancientlie termed Chaldeans and Plinie apart to shew What antiqitie of observation the Heathen Diviners pretended for their superstitious divinations by the flight of fouls and from the bowels of beasts That in my Vindication I qote Lucian a Scoffer But to what purpose To prov ought in controversie by him No. But to shew That an Impostor in his times used the like shifts that Lilie now doth tho in some kind more wiselie and warilie then he But I qote also there two Logger-headed Grammarians and Heathens If his meaning be in sensu composito that those two Grammarians were Heathens it is fals they were both Christians tho they lived in an obscure and corrupt age But what do I cite them for To shew that they were sounder coneurring therein with the learned of other and better ages in the notation of some words and distinction of some terms then some of Lilies Patrons and Advocates and the more shame then for them professing much learning and charging others with ignorance to come short in such pettie matters of such Logger-headed Grammarians as their Client saith they were Or if he mean in sensu diviso that I qote other Autors that ar pure Heathens as elswhere he saith of Strabo and Cicero against Astrologie I might demand of him Whether Strabo and Cicero ar more pure Heathen or anie that I qote against Astrologie then Thales and Solon whom his Advocate qotes for it or whether Hermes Proclus Plotinus Ptolomie Albumazar Hali Rodoan Baranzanus c. be anie better then such whom he qotes for his practise and on whose autoritie next to his good Angels of whom by his silence he now seems ashamed he principallie rests and relies I qote Heathen Autors indeed but to what purpose To shew that the wiser sort even among the Heathen discovered the vanitie and follie of this pretended skil As Clemens Augustine and others of the Ancients produce the like to shew that the wiser sort of them disavowed the multiplicitie of their counterfeit Deities Yea but I play the fool in producing the judgment of men disaffected to the point in qestion Not I hope when I produce them to prov that they ar not all such sillie Ignoramusses as Lilie and his Advocate would bear the world in hand that tax his trade and that it is not out of meer ignorance that they disallow and condemn it unless he can prov that they ar all also such Logger-heads as he saith those two were But in all these particulars thus specified and here carped at there is nothing of much moment nor ought that contains in it anie matter of scandal One or two other things there are wherewith albeit they no way at all concern either my Charge against him or his Defence of his own Cause wherein he is as mute as a fish yet he strives what he can to asperse my good name endeavoring to fasten some particulars upon me that may tend unto scandal which I suppose therefore it may concern me to take notice of and to clear my self from his fals imputations that which divers of my Friends also have incited me to do One of the wisest of meer men that ever was since the fall telleth us 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That a good name is a matter of more worth then a pretious ointment which were said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 very highly prized in those parts and more to be esteemed of then riches and much treasure And a Heathen man therefore saith Famae fidei damna majora sunt qod q● aestimari possunt That the wrongs a man receives in his good name and credit ar greater damages then can be valued We have a common saying among us That for a man to have a bad name it is as good or bad rather as to be half hanged But the Greek Orator goes further then so and saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That it were not a greater penalty for a man to be stoned to death or burnt qick then justlie and deservedlie to live in disgrace And the Greek Father 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 That death it self is more tolerable then disgrace Yea the Apostle Paul himself professeth to be of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that it were better for him to die that anie man should take his life rather then his glorying away from him And he admonisheth all Christian men to be very charie in this kind folowing 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉