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A48860 A further defence of the report Vindicating it from Mr. Alsops Cavils, and shewing the difference between Mr. W's and my self to be real, and the charge in my appeal to be true. Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699. 1698 (1698) Wing L2724; ESTC R218961 51,757 90

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