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A54120 The Christian-Quaker and his divine testimony vindicated by Scripture, reason, and authorities against the injurious attempts that have been lately made by several adversaries, with manifest design to rendor him odiously inconsistent with Christianity and civil society : in II parts. / The first more general by William Penn ; the second more particular by George Whitehead. Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1674 (1674) Wing P1266; ESTC R37076 464,302 582

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and the Cause of men's Destruction opened against Arg. 4. Persons being chosen proves not their Eternal Election as Persons p. 260. § 4. Concerning Jacob and Esau Christ's Sheep those that come ●…ome drawn and given unto him of the Father Arg. 5 6. p. 262. § 5. Election explained God's Loving Jacob and hating Esau their Posterities concerned therein and how far the two Births were figured in Jacob and Esau p. 265. § 6. Our Opposer's blasphemously placing a partial Resolution upon God as creating Persons with Intention to leave them to Destruction contrary to his universal Call and Tend rs of Salvation p. 268. § 7. The Unchangeableness of God's Election in what State and our Opposer's Ignorance and Error concerning God's Purpose p. 269. § 8. My Unanswered Objection of setting Life and Death before men and Warning them of Destruction p. 271. § 9. The Cause of God's Hardening Pharaoh Judas and others not grounded upon meer Will and Pleasure but for their Rebellion p. 272. § 10. Touching the Fall of particular Angels and Men the Tendence of God's Long-suffering towards the Wicked and my Opposer's Confession to Truth to the utter Overthrow of his Opinion p. 273. § 11. Presbyters Mockery in their Warnings and setting Life and Death Conditional Promises and Threats before People contrary to their Partial Opinion of an Eternal Personal Election and Reprobation png. 275. Sect. 12. The sad Consequence of their Accusing God with decreeing to deny Saving Grace to particular Persons yea to the greater part of Mankind shewing that Divine Justice it self hath not so decreed pag. 277. § 13. Grace differing from Debt The Reason why God finds Fault with Men The Question Who hath resisted his Will resolved p. 278. § 14. Their urging all to forsake Sin contradictory to their Opinion and not in true Faith Their flattering many with fair Pretences contrary to their own Intentions The poor Encouragement and cold Comfort that their Doctrine of a Personal Reprobation yields to the greatest part of Mankind p. 279. § 15. The Wise God the Just Judge is the Ordainer of the Punishment not of the Fact nor the Author of Sin or their Wickedness who persecuted Christ p. 281. § 16. Hypocritical Priests making and strengthening Hypocrites by deceitfully daubing them up in their Sins and flattering them with a YOU ARE NOT FALLEN FROM GRACE while they are guilty of gross VVickedness p. 283. § 17. Concerning God's Covenant with David and his Seed and the Mystery typified in him p. 284. To all which is added a Short Postscript concerning the WILL of God in its Manifestation 1st as Unresistible 2dly as Resistible p. 286 287 288 289. Chap. VI. VVhether PERFECTION that is a State freed from all Sin be attainable in this Life from p. 290. to p. 312. The Fifth Treatise about the RESURRECTION beginning at pag. 315. to the end of the Book The RESURRECTION owned by us and Scripturally asserted with the Future and distinct Beings of Men Angels and the Eternal Advantage Glory Felicity of the Righteous or Saints after Dissolution The Scriptures spiritual Teftimony thereof being owned and vindicated by us in Opposition to our OPPOSER ' s CARNAL THOUGHTS about the Resurrection and future State particularly in Answer to Tho. Hicks W. Burnet and Thomas Danson Unto which is annexed Thomas Vincent ' s Illustrations about the Resurrection as partly an Explication of the Sense of the rest of our Opposers therein Finally Some Passages of Hen. Moor ' s for the SPIRITUALITY of the Resurrection-Bodies viz. the Body of Christ and the Bodies of Saints The Intent of all this Fifth Treatise being both to remove Groundless Objections Unnecessary Questions and Fruitless Disputes about this Weighty and Mysterious Point of the Resurrection THE CHRISTIAN-QUAKER And his DIVINE TESTIMONY VINDICATED c. Viz. The Universality Sufficiency of Christ's LIGHT WITHIN through all Ages to Eternal SALVATION fully Stated and Defended CHAP. I. The Occasion of the Discourse The Unhandsome Dealing of our Adversary with Respect to the Invented Weakness he chargeth upon the Quakers as the Strength of their Cause THere is a Book lately come to my Hands intituled A Dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker which with several others lately publisht against us hath given Occasion for this general Undertaking I was very curious to peruse that Discourse which should make a Difference between them having in my diligent Search after Religion ever desired to understand and profess That which upon true Convictions I had Reason to believe was the most Christian But as upon Impartial View I found the Weakness of that Book more favourable to us then the Uncharitableness of the Title-Page which seem'd to dis interest a Quaker in Christianity so most unexpectedly I found my Name among others often us'd and as often undeservedly abus'd by the Author I was not willing that any else should answer for my Faults if any there were and if Innocent I esteem'd my self both sufficient and oblig'd to my own Relief which will not be hard to do and the Reason is because so little Reason and so much Railing have been by him imploy'd against me as if he intended to scold rather then confute me and to let the World know how much better skill'd He is in Scurrility then Argument This I confess drew me first into any Willingness of considering his Discourse at large Not that the Truth was not first in mine Eye but because I know the Person most concern'd with him to be both able and resolv'd to reply I thought my Endeavors at least for this time might have been very well excused But so many Out-cries coming upon the Neck of another if possible to expel us the World I found my self press'd in Spirit to buckle my Mind to this Enterprise notwithstanding that my late Concernment with some other Adversaries had left the Wearisomness of a Combat upon my Spirit and the Hopes I had of being spared by the ingenuous Acknowledgment of our Enemies from the like Necessity of further Controversie But as it fell out with the People of Syracuse that several very Bad Tyrants were succeded by Worse so truly it hath done with us The Confutation of one Adversary redoubling Envy Prejudice and almost every evil Quality in the next as if to be overcome were more intollerable to them then to find the TRUTH by it would be Acceptable Oh Lamentable Use that these Men make of our Love and Pains But we have some Cause to think that failing of that Reason which is necessary to prop so infirm a Cause they would if possible supply the Want of it with the LAST WORD which at Billings Gate I hear goeth a Great Way to Advantage and turn the Scale in all Disputes And truly if the Temper of this Adversary be but consider'd with what Help he himself has given us to do it For my part I should stand amaz'd that any Sober Civil or Christian Man could refrain passing
their Weakness that he might both keep them from gadding after the Pompous Invention and Idolatrous Worship of other Nations and point out unto them under their great Carnality that more Hidden Glory and Spiritual Dispensation which should-afterwards be revealed to wit The Compleat Redemption of the Soul and Raign of the Holy Seed from the Child born and the Son given to the Wonderful Counsellor the Mighty God the Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace of the Increase of whose Government there shall be no End So that then we ought and we do by absolute Force of Truth conclude 1. That the Seed which Seed is Christ was in all Ages with Abraham with the Israelites with the Prophets Therefore he was as well before he came in that prepared Body as then and since 2. Yet it is confest That He was not so clearly revealed perfectly brought forth and generally known before his so Coming as then and since but more darkly figured out by Types and Shaddowy Services which though they Cleans'd not Sav'd not Redeem'd not yet did show forth a more Hidden and Spiritual Substance that was able to Cleanse Save and Redeem and did all that received it and were truly subject to it 3. That it therefore is not at all Absurd that the more Excellent Manifestation of Truth should he Typified and Prophesied of under the Enjoyment of the Lesser since the Reason of the Thing and the Testimonies of the Scripture are so express for it which ends our Answer to this Particular CHAP. XX. The Fourth Part of the Objection stated and considered Christ's Death and Sufferings confessed to and respected they were beneficial The Light of Christ within is the Efficient Cause to Salvation HAving thus considered the Third Part of this great Objection I am now come to what chiefly stumbles People with respect to the Light within at least as I apprehend and that is this Fourth and Last Particular viz. But if the Light in every Man be Christ how doth it bear our Sins and are our Iniquities laid upon it and how can we be said to be Justified Redeemed or Saved by its Blood since all these things are spoken by the Holy Pen-men of the Man Christ or Jesus born at Nazareth Surely you wholy invalidate his Life Death Resurrection Ascension and Mediation by this Belief in the Light This I take to be the very Stress of the Matter collected out of the most Forceable Writings of our Adversaries To which I Answer and let him that reads understand It must be considered in this Last Part of the Objection how those Questions can be applicable to the Light and yet be reconciliable with those Scriptures that seem to attribute all to his Bodily Sufferings I hope to make appear that as we exalt the First so we dare not by any means to slight the Last The Light or rather He that is Light in Man for I have alwayes desired so to be understood Light being a Metaphor or word taken from the outward Day and chiefly so term'd because of Man's Darkness which is thereby discovered hath been as a Lamb slain since the Foundation of the World that is the World had not been long created before the good Order of it and every thing therein being envied by the Fallen Angels that Spirit of Iniquity betrayed Man of his Innocency and Sin by Disobedience prevailing the Light or Principle of Life under whose Holy Leadings Man was placed became Resisted Grieved and as it were Slain which word Slain is also Metaphorical that is to say the Innocent Pure Life was as Wounded unto Death through Man's Disobedience and Lamb-like Image in which Adam was created by him through Rebellion lost Thus that Holy Principle which God placed in the Heart of Adam in which was true Light Life and Power bore the Sin was prest under it as a Cart under Sheaves grieved exceedingly and as it were quencht with Iniquity This hath been the Condition of that Precious and Elect Seed Spirit Light Life Truth or whatever Name equivalent any may please to give it ever since that first Rebellion to this very Day And as in Wicked Men God's Holy Light and Spirit or that Principle which is so called hath been deeply Wounded yea as one Slain so in Good Men that have had a Sence of the World's Abomination hath it also born many Burdens and Weights for the Light and Life is One in All. And those who have been reformed by it and joyned to it have been as One Spirit and have not been without their Share of their Lord 's heavy Sufferings from the Ungodly World which was as well a filling up of Christ's Sufferings that were before his Outward Coming as what to this Generation are behind And as at any time Disobedient Men have harkened to the still Voice of the WORD that Messenger of God in their Hearts to be affected and convinced by it as it brings Reproof for Sin which is but a Fatherly Chastizement ●…o upon true Brokenness of Soul and Contrition of Spirit that very same Principle and Word of Life in Man has mediated and attoned and God has been propitious lifting up the Light of his Countenance and replenishing such humble 〈◊〉 with Divine Consolations So that still the same Christ Word-God who has enlightned all Men by Sin is grieved bearing the Iniquities of such as so sin and reject his Benefits but as any hear his Knocks and let him in he first Wounds and then Heals afterwards he attones mediates and re-instates in the holy Image Behold this is the State of Restitution And this in some Measure was witnessed by the Holy Patriarchs Prophets and Servants of God in old time to whom Christ was substantially the same Saviour and Seed bruising the Serpent's Head that he is now to us what Difference s●…ever there may be in Point o●… Manifestation But notwithstanding the same Light and Life with that which afterwards clothed it it self with that outward Body did in measure inwardly appear for the Salvation of the Souls of Men yet as have often said never did that Li●…●…eminently put ●…orth it self for that End as in that 〈◊〉 and prepared Body so that what he then suffered and did in that transcendent Manisestation may by way of Eminency assume the whole Work unto it self that he ever did before or might do afterwards For doubtless that very Light Life and Power which dwelt in that Flesh●…y Tabernacle eminently was the Convincer Condemner Saviour and Redeemer yet not only as confined to that Body but as revealed in the Hearts of Men as he was in Paul who not consulting with Flesh and Blood against the Lord of Glory willingly receive him in to bind the strong Man spoil his Goods and cast him out that He might Reign And that the Divine Life Light Spirit Nature of Principle which resided in that Body was the efficient Cause of Salvation observe the Title that is given from the great Work he was to
with the Assemblies Opinion and Stephen Scandret's uncertain Proposition for it His Abuse of divers Scriptures in his State of the Case for a personal Election answered and the Way of God's ●…hoosing resolved The Weakness of his two first Arguments touching God's Decree and Promises His gross Ignorance of those Names written in the Lamb's Book Arg. 3. His Impertinency and ignorant Allegation and mis-understanding of divers Scriptures concerning God's Choice and Ordination and the Cause of Mens Destruction opened against Argum. 4. Persons being chosen proves not their Eternal Election as Persons Concerning Jacob and Esau Christ's Sheep those that come are drawn and given unto him of the Father Arg. 5 6. Election explained God's loving Jacob and hating Esau their Posterities concerned therein And how far the two Births were figured in Jacob and Esau. Our Opposers blasphemously placing a partial Resolution upon God as creating Persons with Intention to leave them to Destruction contrary to his universal Call and Tenders of Salvation The Unchangeableness of God's Election in what State and our Opposers Ignorance and Error concerning God's Purpose My unanswered Objection of setting Life and Death before Men and warning them of Destruction The Cause of God's hardning Pharoah Judas and others not grounded upon meer Will and Pleasure but for their Rebellion Touching the Fall of particular Angels and Men the Tendence of God's long-Suffering towards the Wicke●… and my Opposer's Confession to Truth to the ●…tter Overthrow of his Opinion Presbyterians M●…ckery in their Warnings setting Life Death conditional Promises and Threats before People contrary to their partial Opinion of an eternal personal Election and Reprobation The sad Consequence of their accusing God with decreeing to deny saving Grace to particular Persons yea to the greater Part of Mankind shewing that divine Justice it self hath not so decreed Grace differing from Debt The Reason why God finds Fault with Men. The Question Who hath resisted his Will resolved Their urging all to for sake Sin contradictory to their Opinion and not in true Eaith Their Flattering many with fair Pretences contrary to their own Intentions the poor Encouragement and cold Comfort that their Doctrine of a personal Reprobation yields to the greatest Part of Mankind The wise God the just Judge is the Ordeiner of the Punishment not of the Fact nor the Author of Sin or their Wickedness who persecuted Christ. Hypocritical Priests making and strengthning Hypocrites by deceitfully daubing them up in their Sins and flattering them with a You are not fallen from Grace while they are guilty of gross Wickedness Concerning God's Convenant with David and his Seed and the Mystery typified in him To all which is added a short Postscript A Brief Introduction TO The following Discourse concerning Election and Reprobation STephen Scandret begins with an absolute false Charge against me as Depraving God's Truth whenas according to plain Scripture without any Depravation thereof I examined their partial and graceless Opinion as their making God the Ordeiner of whatsoever comes to pass both as to the States and Ends of Men and their placing his Decree thereof from all Eternity upon particular Persons and no●… upon the two Seeds and Conditions wherein Election and Reprobation do originally consist which in time extends to Persons only as related to the good or evil Seed and not from a partial absolute and meer voluntary Decree and Design to particular Persons as their narrow and silly Opinion imports which I opposed and that from the Scriptures of Truth testifying 1. God's Good-Will and Grace to Mankind in general 2. The real Causes on their Parts of his Severity towards them and their Reprobation I ●…aid down the Presbyterian Principle and Opinion as it may be seen in their Confession and Catechism agreed upon by their Assembly of Divines so called at Westminster and approved by the general Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland as where they say in their 3d Chapter That God from all Eternity did by the most wise and holy Counsel of his own Will freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass And that by the Decree of God for the Manifestation of his Glory some Men and Angels are predestinated unto everlasting Life and others fore-ordained unto everlasting Death and that these Angels and Men thus predestinated and fore-ordeined are particularly and unchangeably designed their Number so certain and definite that it cannot be either encreased or diminished c. And also upon the same Principle they add in their tenth Chapter That all those whom God hath predestinated unto Life and those only he is pleased effectually to call by his Word and Spirit out of the State of Sin and Death in which they are by Nature to Grace and Salvation by Jesus Christ enlightning their Minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God c. And in their eleaventh Chapter God did from all Eternity decree to justifie all the Elected and Christ did in the Fulness of time dye for their Sins and rise again for their Justification The Consequence of this Doctrine with a plain and scriptural Answer and Confutation are laid down in the latter End of our Book entituled The Glory of Christ's Light within expelling Darkness which Book yet remains unanswered by S. S. both as to this and other Heads wherein he and his Brethren are concerned though now in order to vindicate this Doctrine he layes down the Proposition thus S. Scandret That God did most freely and unchangeably and from all Eternity choose some particular Persons to partake of saving Grace c. from whence it will necessarily follow That he hath reprobated or passed by others I must manifest this by Parts Answ. In Opposition to this Partiality unjustly charged upon God I must assert this Proposition That God's eternal Election stands originally in his own Seed of Promise and free Grace thereby freely tendered to all Mankind both Jews and Gentiles and all Men in the first place left free for a Share therein and none are reprobated but who first reject this Grace and like not to retain God in their Knowledge his words that he hath reprobated or passed by others are very doubtful being as much as to say that either God hath from all Eternity reprobated particular Persons or left them to Reprobate themselves It is then either God's Act or the Creatures which as appears this Man's Masters the pretended Divines could not resolve and we do not expect him to be a more pro●…ound Divine then his Tutors However their Opinion at least reflects upon God as passi●…g by the greater part of Mankind without a●…ording them any Saving Grace or the least Spiritual Assistance of Divine Light or Life so as if he thus takes no notice of them at all but passeth by them they must inevitably be left to Destruction and eternal Misery by this Graceless and Uncharitable Opinion which tends greatly to ●…cclipse the Glory of
of Condemnation both to Angels and Men to be their Sin in forsaking the Lord and living Ungodly But whereas S. S. renders God's fore-knowledge of all his Works as the Reason or Proof That he from eternity decreed particular Angels and Men for Destruction which appears Contradictory to his Masters of the Assemblies confessing viz. That God hath not decreed any thing because he foresaw it as future Confess Chap. 3 This Proof is as impertinent as the rest of his shallow Arguments for his fore-Knowledge being infinite it is no Proof that he hath absolutely decreed or ordained all things that come to pass because he foresaw all for he hath not ordained that Men should live in Sin though he hath designed their Punishment who do so live yet known unto the Lord are all his Work 's both those of his Creation which he wrought according to his absolute Pleasure both in Heaven and in Earth and in the Sea c. Psal. 135. 6. and Man was not capable of resisting his Maker in forming of him he was as the Clay in his Hand as also the Lord foreknew his work of Sanctification and saving of man from Sin and Death but this is not effected without a Subjection to his Will and a Compliance with his Spirit and Power in his Work within They are not Partakers of Salvation from Sin who wilfully gain-say the Truth resist the holy Ghost and act Despite against the Spirit of Grace But further I find S. S. so uncertain in the Management of his partial Proposition for a personal Election and Reprobation that he is made sometimes to grant and confess to Truth to his own absolute Confutation and the Break neck of his graceless Cause As by his Confessing That God hath no Pleasure in the Death of him that dieth considered barely as his Creature for he is willing to receive to Mercy every returning Sinner yet if a Person perseveres in Wickedness as such God will laugh at his Calamity c. Thus far S. S. From whence it follows 1st That God did not from Eternity decree the Damnation of particular Persons contrary to his declared Pleasure 2dly That persevering in Wickedness is the Cause of Men's Calamity 3dly A●…d their Perversness and Obstinacy in rejecting Wisdom's Reproof and Counsel the Cause that God will laugh at their Calamity and mock when their Fear cometh Now the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation as universally sect 11 and equally laid down in the Scriptures of Truth and as accordingly by us asserted for that there can be no Repugnancy either in God's Actions or in his Will whether secret or revealed as some vainly imagin cannot be inconsistent with God's Prohibitions Eat not of the Tree of Knowledge His conditional Promises If thou dost well shalt thou not be accepted If you Seek the Lord he will be found of you Whosoever believeth shall not perish shall not abide in Darkness His conditional Threats If thy Heart turn away thou shalt Perish If ye for sake him he will for sake you His sending his Son into the World not to Condemn the World He should have added Christ's Dying for all Men tasting death for every Man his giving his Spirit to instruct them His Setting Life and Death before them in the Promises and in the Threats or giving Men up to their Lusts for Sin This cannot be inconsistent with God's Election or Choice of true Believers and Obedient nor with his rejecting the Rebellious unto Reprobation for they evince the Truth thereof But the Presbyters partial Doctrine of Election and Reprobation of particular Persons and certain definite number of Men and Angels and their most grosly Asserting that God from all Eternity did freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass This is both inconsistent with those and such his Prohibitions conditional Promises and Threats His sending his Son not to condemn the World but that the World through him might be saved his dying for all Men his giving his good Spirit to the Disobedient to instruct them his setting Life and Death before them to chuse Life or perish Deut. 30. 15. to the end but Alas if from Eternity God had reprobated them or absolutely ordained and designed their Damnation and Curse how should they Chuse Life or Blessing Or if particularly unchangeably ordained to Life and Salvation from all Eternity Could there be any such Danger of their perishing or that they should thus need to be threatned with Cursing and Perishing if their Heart turned away from the Lord For had they been unchangeably designed of God for the one End whether Life or Death were it not very inconsistent to propose both conditionally to them as namely to exhort them to chuse Life or if they refused to threaten them with perishing c. do not you partial-minded Presbyters and Calvinists by such kind of Preaching and Propositions so contrary to your partial Principle most grosly dissemble with People and mock them contrary to your own Belief whenas Moses the Prophets and Apostles in such like Conditional Promises and Threats believed what they spoak they believed and therefore spoak from the Spirit of God which cannot lie nor dissemble If you say God hath decreed particular Persons Salvation by such Warnings you thereby tell us that he hath decreed it by Threatning them with Damnation and thereby you affix your non-sense incongruous Doctrine upon God rather then you will confess your own nonsensical Contradiction therein which runs thus That God hath from all Eternity unchangeably designed some Persons eternal Salvation and yet that he warns and threatens the same Persons with eternal Damnation or Perdition if they refuse Life or to ●…earken to him and obey him or if their Hearts turn away from him pray mark how inconsistent and contradictory this is like as to say It is unchangeably designed of God that you must live for ever yet take heed you do not dye eternally And to S. S. his adding All these are subservient to the Soveraign Design of God's Decrees The Magnifying his Mercy and Grace in the Salvation of all the Elect his Justice or Wrath in the Reprobates c. pag. 115. Ans. If by the Words All these as we may take him he intends according to the Assembly's Confession That God from all Eternity did most freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass then it may be understood that all these things those Conditions or States both Good and Bad which he mentions before are subservient to the soveraign Design of God's Decrees as he words it But if by all these he intends all these conditional Promises and Threats are so subservient as I think he doth then God's Decrees of Men Salvation or Damnation are also conditional accordingly as first If you seek the Lord he will be found of you and then as all are called to seek the Lord he hath also given Liberty and a Capacity to all to seek him that they may
in apt Resemblances obvious to the Sences as Tophet is ordained of old yea for the King it is prepared he hath made it deep and large the Pile thereof is Fire and much Wood the Breath of the Lord like a Stream of Brimstone doth kindle it Isa. 30. 33. and Bind him Hand and Foot and cast him into ulter Darkness there shall be Weeping and Gna●…hing of Teeth Mat. 22. 13. As also If thy right Eye Hand or Foot offend pluck it out or cut it off and cast it from thee as being better that one Member should perish then the whole Body should be cast into Hell where the Worm dyeth not and the Fire shall never be quenched Mat. 〈◊〉 29. Mark 9. 49. to the end Which still argues that the Impenitent and Wicked are liable to meet with real ●…orment and that he hath spiritually his proper Being and Habit consisting of such spiritual Parts and Sences having an evil Eye a polluted Mind and defiled Conscience covered with Guilt pressed down with the Body of Sin and perplexed with Horror wherein he both receiveth the Deeds 〈◊〉 in the Body and is capable of absolute Misery in the Fire which shall never be quenched where the Worm dyeth not As also it is said The Rich Man also dyed and was buried and in Hell he lift up his Eyes being in Torments and seeth Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his Bosom and he cried said Father Abraham have Mercy on me and send Lazarus that he may dip the Tip of his Finger in Water and cool my Tongue for I am tormented in this Flame Luk. 16. 23 24. When his Body was buried yet he had the Sence of Torments that seized upon him and a Sight of the other's Felicity which he himself had lost Therefore as Christ said I say unto you my Friends be not afraid of them that can kill the Body and after that have no more that they can do but I will fore-warn you whom ye shall fear fear him which after he hath killed hath Power to cast into Hell I say unto you fear him Luk. 12. 4 5. A Summary of the Difficulties in the Point in Controversie FInally The Controversie is run up to these Difficulties which I object upon our Opposers Doctrines and Conceptions 1st How the self same Bodies should arise compleat after dissolved to Dust without a New Creation appears not nor is it demonstrated by them 2. If a New Creation of compleat Bodies of the same Dust and Elements should be conceived or admitted it is Incredible that God should create any corrupt sinful or polluted Bodies thereof for perpetual Torments seeing his Works are pure And as Incredible that he should make a pure Body to be invested with the former Evil Habit of Sin and Corruption for perpetual Torment in Hell-Fire and to be sure the first Elements or Dust of dissolved ●…odies is as pure as at the first 3. If Infants be supposed to arise at the Stature of Men how can theirs be the self-same Bodies they were 4. How the Body of the Saints and Children of the Resurrection should be either a Celestial Spiritual Glorious or Angelical Body and they Equal unto the Angels in Heaven and yet the self-same Earthly Elementary Body that dissolveth to Dust c. such a strange Transubstantiation appears not unless that the Natural Body and the Spiritual the Terrestrial and the Celestial the Human and Angelical be both One and the Self-same 5. That the Soul should not enjoy her self in absolute Felicity or Misery in perfect Glory or Contempt in her proper Vessel or Cloathing spiritually without the Earthly Cloathing which is Dust appears not while the Children of the Resurrection are equal unto the Angels of God in Heaven which are absolutely Happy and the Devil and his Angels absolutely Miserable 6. We cannot believe that the Invisible Infinite God should be seen with the Bodily or fleshly Eyes after Dissolution not that Job intended he should see God with his Flesh or bodily Eyes It being in consistent both with his being an Invisible Eternal or Infinite Spirit and with the true spiritual Sight of him which Job received Job 42. 5. 7. That the Seed to which God giveth a Body as it pleaseth him 1 Cor. 15. and the Body given to it should be one and the self same Earthly Body is a non-sensical Doctrine and an apparent Incongruity 8. That the Terrestrial Bodies should be so desirable to the Souls of the Righteous after Dissolution for the compleating their Felicity and perfecting their Glory appears plainly inconsistent with their desiring here to be dissolved and to be absent from the Body to enjoy and possess a Building of God au House eternal in the Heavens Or that the Souls of the Righteous should be so variable as to desire to be absent from the Body and presently after Dissolution to desire the Resuming of the same Earthly Body or a Re-union to it This implicitely accuseth the Souls of deceased Saints with being in their Affections both Earthly Variable and Unquiet as in a kind of Purgatory Which we can never assent to Thomas Vincent's Illustrations ABOUT THE RESURRECTION Which we may look upon as the Sense of the Rest and as the Explication of their Doctrines and Opinions who are Opposing the Spirituality of our Testimony about the Resurrection Among which some Truths are intermixt though his gross and carnal Conceptions about the Point we cannot close with His Illustrations are in his Book entituled Christ's Certain and Suddain Appearance to Judgment Collected and Placed in his own Words as followeth for the Serious and Spiritual-minded Readers to judge of T. V. GIve me leave to illustrate the Resurrection a little further and here I shall endeavour to set it forth by an Allusion to that notable place Ezek. 37. and ten first Verses pag. 16. some thing like this will the Resurrection be at the Last Day Now the Bones and Bodies of all former Generations are scattered up and down in the Valley of the Shadow of Death some are sunk into the Deep others are buried in the Earth the Flesh is consumed and resolved into its first Elements and the Bones of some remain of others are mouldred into Earth Now when the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God shall come down from Mount Sion which is above into the Valley of this inferiour World he will Prophesie over all the Bodies and Bones of all the Children of Men that are dead and speak unto them to Live he will say unto them whilft they lie rotting in their Graves Live he will say Awake ye that sleep in the Dust And Oh what a Noise and Shaking will there be then in the Ground What a clattering of Bones together in the coming of Bone to his Bone If the Body hath been quartered and buried part in one place and part in another as the Levite's Concubine who was divided into Twelve Parts and sent to the Twelve Tribes of