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A47744 Five discourses by the author of The snake in the grass viz. On water baptism, episcopacy, primitive heresie of the Quakers, reflections on the Quakers, a brief account of the Socinian trinity ; to which is added a preface to the whole.; Selections. 1700 Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1700 (1700) Wing L1133; ESTC R1214 55,897 120

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be_v plain_a that_o the_o word_n baptism_n and_o the_o word_n wash_v though_o not_o the_o same_o word_n have_v yet_o the_o selfsame_a meaning_n 2._o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o word_n baptism_n be_v often_o take_v in_o a_o figurative_a and_o allegorical_a sense_n to_o mean_v the_o inward_a baptism_n the_o wash_v or_o cleanse_v of_o the_o heart_n but_o so_o be_v the_o word_n wash_v also_o as_o often_o as_o jer._n four_o 14._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o be_v scarce_o a_o word_n in_o the_o world_n but_o be_v capable_a of_o many_o figurative_a and_o allegorical_a meaning_n thus_o circumcision_n be_v very_o often_o use_v for_o the_o inward_a circumcision_n or_o purity_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o fire_n be_v take_v to_o express_v love_n and_o likewise_o anger_n and_o many_o other_o thing_n but_o it_o be_v a_o receive_a rule_n for_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o indeed_o of_o all_o other_o write_n and_o word_n that_o the_o plain_a literal_a mean_v be_v always_o to_o be_v 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