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mr._n t._n say_v that_o you_o shall_v find_v nothing_o in_o eusebius_n ignatius_n etc._n etc._n for_o infant-baptisme_n and_o we_o say_v it_o be_v wonder_v mr._n t._n do_v find_v nothing_o in_o they_o to_o the_o contrary_a in_o his_o 7_o or_o 8_o month_n time_n to_o write_v his_o examen_fw-la which_o we_o not_o have_v much_o above_o 8_o week_n for_o our_o answer_n and_o so_o have_v not_o time_n to_o ransack_v every_o book_n but_o fift_o helvic_n clem._n alexan_n li._n 3._o strâ—m_fw-la p._n 461._o he_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 193._o buchol_n helvic_n this_o we_o cast_v our_o eye_n upon_o in_o clem._n alexand_n which_o make_v i_o think_v somewhat_o may_v be_v find_v in_o he_o towards_o infant-baptism_n if_o we_o have_v time_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n neither_o do_v god_n divine_a providence_n now_o likewise_o command_v 〈◊〉_d of_o old_a that_o he_o that_o have_v rise_v from_o the_o conjugal_a bed_n shall_v be_v wash_v for_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o 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in_o we_o be_v transfuse_v from_o adam_n whence_o david_n say_v he_o be_v bear_v in_o iniquity_n and_o conceive_v in_o sin_n psal_n 51._o not_o accuse_v his_o mother_n but_o intimate_v his_o sinfulness_n which_o run_v down_o from_o his_o progenitor_n and_o now_o the_o lawmaker_n command_v he_o out_o of_o who_o proceed_v the_o seed_n of_o copulation_n that_o be_v â—e_z that_o have_v effuse_v his_o seed_n for_o procreation_n of_o child_n yea_o also_o the_o woman_n that_o have_v receive_v it_o to_o wash_v the_o body_n because_o she_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o which_o be_v describe_v this_o whole_a temple_n of_o we_o that_o be_v the_o whole_a man_n consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n in_o that_o adam_n be_v make_v filthy_a by_o disobedience_n he_o make_v his_o seed_n to_o be_v filthy_a and_o so_o necessary_o the_o body_n to_o be_v filthy_a which_o be_v of_o the_o seed_n in_o which_o he_o be_v unclean_a until_o the_o even_o that_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o christ_n come_v 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it_o it_o be_v that_o the_o seed_n be_v no_o more_o unclean_a though_o after_o to_o be_v further_o cleanse_v so_o gent._n herv_z with_o much_o more_o thus_o you_o have_v a_o touch_n out_o of_o one_o of_o mr._n t._n his_o five_o gr._n author_n which_o he_o say_v have_v nothing_o of_o infant-baptisme_n we_o will_v give_v you_o another_o touch_n out_o of_o another_o of_o his_o silent_a author_n as_o mr._n t._n intimate_v and_o so_o dismiss_v the_o rest_n as_o not_o have_v all_o the_o author_n nor_o time_n to_o go_v look_n after_o they_o 52._o epiphanius_n contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la 30._o p._n 52._o epiphanius_n in_o his_o second_o book_n 2._o tom._n contr_n haeres_fw-la speak_v before_o of_o the_o circumcision_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o be_v circumcise_v to_o dissolve_v or_o abrogate_v that_o circumcision_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o great_a and_o that_o the_o circumcision_n enjoin_v abraham_n be_v not_o perfect_a but_o a_o sign_n of_o grace_n give_v and_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o they_o in_o future_a time_n and_o thence_o wish_v ebion_n not_o to_o imitate_v christ_n in_o circumcision_n of_o himself_o or_o other_o at_o last_o he_o speak_v in_o these_o very_a word_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v epiphanius_n have_v remove_v the_o time_n of_o this_o circumcision_n for_o he_o come_v and_o fulfil_v it_o have_v give_v the_o perfect_a circumcision_n of_o his_o mystery_n and_o that_o not_o in_o one_o member_n only_o but_o in_o the_o whole_a body_n seal_v and_o circumcise_v from_o sin_n and_o save_v not_o one_o only_a part_n of_o the_o people_n that_o be_v man_n only_o but_o also_o all_o the_o people_n of_o christian_n indeed_o sign_v or_o seal_v man_n and_o woman_n and_o liberal_o for_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o not_o in_o exhibit_v the_o seal_n defective_o to_o one_o rank_n or_o state_n virorum_fw-la of_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o imbecility_n but_o to_o all_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o epiphanius_n write_v there_o of_o infant-baptisme_n and_o i_o be_o confident_a more_o may_v be_v find_v in_o other_o place_n touch_v it_o have_v we_o time_n to_o seek_v though_o epiphanius_n say_v nothing_o of_o it_o as_o mr._n t._n weak_o object_n in_o lib._n 2._o haeres_fw-la 46._o vel_fw-la 47._o in_o his_o disputation_n for_o infant_n inherit_v heaven_n against_o the_o hieracite_n we_o be_v not_o to_o teach_v other_o learned_a man_n what_o to_o speak_v nor_o when_o to_o speak_v nor_o to_o say_v they_o speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o such_o a_o point_n if_o they_o do_v not_o speak_v where_o and_o when_o we_o expect_v 2._o mr._n t._n object_n against_o the_o greek_a father_n allege_v by_o we_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o and_o in_o they_o against_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n thus_o but_o beside_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o question_n to_o baptize_v person_n and_o answer_v
constitute_v in_o a_o family_n gen._n 17.12_o 13._o or_o in_o the_o nation_n exod._n 12._o 47_o 41_o 49._o as_o baptism_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o and_o only_o those_o that_o come_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n and_o their_o child_n i_o say_v into_o the_o christian_a church_n that_o be_v the_o parent_n come_v in_o at_o least_o into_o the_o universal_a visible_a christian_a church_n by_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o so_o this_o difference_n pretend_v by_o mr._n t._n between_o baptism_n and_o circumcision_n come_v if_o not_o to_o a_o sameness_n yet_o to_o a_o likeness_n and_o so_o the_o reason_n thus_o far_o apparent_o to_o i_o be_v the_o same_o between_o both_o and_o the_o like_a argument_n may_v be_v draw_v for_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o one_o as_o of_o the_o other_o the_o four_o and_o last_o exception_n mr._n t._n make_v against_o this_o argument_n out_o of_o gen._n 17._o be_v 2._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 2._o that_o these_o term_n federate_a and_o to_o be_v sign_v be_v not_o convertible_a answ_n they_o be_v convertible_fw-fr jure_fw-la in_o equity_n for_o mr._n t._n will_v not_o doubt_v but_o that_o those_o sign_v with_o circumcision_n gen._n 17._o or_o etc._n etc._n for_o of_o circumcision_n be_v the_o question_n immediate_o now_o according_a to_o mr._n t._n his_o instance_n p._n 4._o l._n 16._o be_v federate_a be_v reckon_v and_o to_o be_v reckon_v in_o the_o covenant_n at_o the_o time_n of_o do_v it_o and_o after_o till_o contrary_a cause_n appear_v and_o all_o federate_a or_o count_v within_o the_o covenant_n be_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o circumcision_n so_o this_o text_n gen._n 17.7_o 8_o 9_o i_o be_o a_o god_n to_o thou_o and_o to_o thy_o seed_n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o that_o every_o man-child_n be_v circumcise_v but_o to_o this_o four_o exception_n partic._n exercit._fw-la sect._n 1._o p._n 4._o 1_o partic._n mr._n t._n argue_v that_o some_o there_o be_v circumcise_v to_o who_o no_o promise_n in_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n do_v belong_v of_o ishmael_n god_n have_v say_v that_o his_o covenant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v establish_v with_o he_o gen._n 17.20_o 21_o 25._o rom._n 9.7_o 8_o 9_o gal._n 4.29_o 30._o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o esau_n all_o that_o be_v in_o abraham_n house_n whether_o stranger_n or_o bear_v in_o the_o house_n be_v circumcise_v gen._n 17.12_o 13._o of_o who_o nevertheless_o it_o may_v be_v doubt_v whether_o any_o promise_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n do_v belong_v to_o they_o there_o be_v other_o person_n partic._n 2_o partic._n to_o who_o all_o or_o most_o of_o the_o promise_n in_o the_o covenant_n pertain_v that_o be_v not_o circumcise_v this_o may_v be_v affirm_v of_o the_o female_n come_v from_o abraham_n the_o infant_n die_v before_o the_o eight_o day_n of_o just_a man_n live_v out_o of_o abraham_n house_n as_o melchisedech_n lot_n job_n if_o any_o say_v that_o the_o female_n be_v circumcise_v in_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o male_n he_o say_v it_o without_o proof_n and_o by_o like_a ob._n mr._n t._n his_o answer_n to_o a_o ob._n perhaps_o great_a reason_n may_v it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v baptize_v in_o the_o person_n of_o their_o parent_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v in_o their_o own_o person_n but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o jew_n comprehend_v in_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o circumcise_v be_v nevertheless_o not_o admit_v to_o baptism_n by_o john_n baptist_n and_o christ_n disciple_n till_o they_o profess_v repentance_n conclus_fw-la 1_o conclus_fw-la and_o faith_n in_o christ_n hence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o right_n to_o evangelicall_n promise_n be_v not_o the_o adequate_a reason_n of_o circumcise_n these_o or_o those_o but_o god_n precept_n as_o it_o be_v express_v gen._n 17.23_o gen._n 21.4_o 2_o that_o those_o term_n be_v not_o convertible_a federate_n and_o to_o be_v sign_v conclus_fw-la 2_o conclus_fw-la answ_n to_o 1_o particular_a that_o some_o there_o be_v circumcise_v to_o who_o no_o promise_n in_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n do_v belong_v mr._n tomb_n argue_v from_o the_o non-fact_n to_o the_o non-equitie_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la and_o from_o the_o non-efficacie_a to_o non-administration_n and_o from_o a_o after_o discovery_n to_o cross_v the_o present_a rule_n which_o argue_v he_o know_v carry_v not_o with_o it_o in_o other_o thing_n any_o consequence_n what_o if_o the_o facto_fw-la some_o be_v not_o circumcise_v according_a to_o the_o directory_n of_o administration_n therefore_o jure_v aught_o they_o not_o if_o opportunity_n and_o accommodation_n concur_v what_o if_o some_o appear_v after_o when_o man_n not_o to_o have_v the_o efficacy_n of_o circumcision_n be_v they_o not_o therefore_o just_o circumcise_v when_o the_o institution_n do_v enjoin_v and_o cause_v it_o to_o be_v do_v while_o they_o be_v infant_n i_o need_v not_o enlarge_v upon_o the_o inconvenient_a sequels_fw-fr in_o the_o use_n of_o all_o ordinance_n if_o that_o administration_n may_v not_o be_v though_o ineffectualnesse_n appear_v not_o always_o after_o and_o howsoever_o it_o be_v apparent_a in_o some_o and_o doubtful_a in_o other_o and_o therefore_o infer_v nothing_o that_o the_o promise_n be_v not_o establish_v that_o be_v be_v not_o effectual_a to_o they_o yet_o it_o be_v most_o apparent_a that_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o circumcision_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o express_a promise_n as_o i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o of_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n to_o circumcise_v every_o male_a gen._n 17.7.9_o the_o promulgation_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o promise_n belong_v to_o many_o to_o who_o it_o be_v not_o after_o effectual_a mar._n 16.15_o and_o if_o the_o institution_n must_v go_v along_o with_o the_o promise_n here_o in_o gen._n 17._o though_o it_o may_v be_v special_o reveal_v to_o abraham_n what_o a_o one_o ishmael_n shall_v prove_v then_o sure_a much_o more_o among_o man_n who_o have_v no_o such_o revelation_n and_o though_o we_o grant_v the_o 1._o line_n in_o this_o 1._o partic_a of_o mr._n tomb_n that_o no_o promise_n in_o the_o covenant_n belong_v to_o ishmael_n yet_o mr._n tomb_n confess_v that_o circumcision_n sign_v civil_a 1.2_o civil_a sect._n 1._o p._n 3._o l._n 16._o 17._o p._n 4._o l._n 1.2_o promise_n to_o some_o of_o abraham_n seed_n and_o that_o promise_v gen._n 17_o 20._o make_v to_o ishmael_n of_o blessing_n and_o multiply_v he_o must_v at_o least_o be_v such_o though_o eminent_o and_o as_o concern_v the_o come_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v emphatical_o say_v that_o in_o isaac_n shall_v the_o covenant_n be_v establish_v gen._n 17._o however_o abraham_n look_v so_o much_o on_o the_o promise_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o of_o thy_o seed_n and_o the_o commentary_n upon_o it_o touch_v blessing_n ishmael_n and_o the_o institution_n ground_v on_o that_o promise_n however_o the_o effect_n shall_v prove_v that_o he_o circumcise_v ishmael_n for_o other_o within_o the_o covenant_n yet_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la not_z circumcise_v we_o must_v needs_o see_v that_o it_o be_v by_o reason_n of_o other_o cause_n and_o not_o the_o want_n of_o connexion_n between_o those_o two_o foederati_fw-la &_o signandi_fw-la that_o be_v to_o belong_v to_o the_o covenant_n and_o to_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o covenant_n if_o god_n exempt_a infant_n by_o death_n that_o die_v within_o the_o seven_o day_n be_v not_o fit_a in_o nature_n for_o so_o sharp_a a_o sacrament_n what_o can_v we_o infer_v more_o against_o the_o institution_n of_o this_o sacrament_n then_o against_o any_o other_o as_o for_o melchisedech_n which_o be_v sem_fw-mi as_o the_o most_o learned_a agree_v upon_o unanswerable_a reason_n he_o be_v bear_v 500_o year_n before_o the_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n who_o institution_n be_v not_o to_o look_v high_a than_o to_o abraham_n at_o the_o high_a and_o so_o to_o descend_v downward_o if_o we_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o lot_n and_o job_n be_v not_o circumcise_v we_o can_v as_o sure_o answer_v that_o job_n be_v not_o in_o the_o land_n let_v not_o in_o the_o county_n where_o the_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n be_v then_o make_v know_v and_o for_o woman_n the_o institution_n of_o circumcision_n reach_v not_o to_o they_o because_o there_o be_v no_o fit_a matter_n for_o that_o sacrament_n that_o alteration_n of_o nature_n to_o intimate_v they_o be_v a_o peculiar_a seed_n set_v apart_o from_o the_o heathen_n as_o well_o as_o the_o male_n be_v be_v do_v in_o their_o father_n on_o who_o be_v act_v more_o than_o the_o water_n can_v act_v namely_o to_o make_v a_o natural_a change_n though_o no_o spiritual_a follow_v so_o that_o these_o particular_a instance_n do_v destroy_v the_o ground_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o institution_n
wrong_a party_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n pretend_v both_o and_o proclaim_v thereupon_o a_o nullity_n of_o baptism_n of_o such_o person_n justify_v that_o then_o and_o there_o be_v a_o due_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o thus_o have_v the_o baptism_n of_o believer_n infant_n ten_o thousand_o for_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n continue_v in_o holland_n scotland_n england_n and_o other_o church_n in_o france_n and_o germany_n and_o where_o otherwise_o beyond_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o old_a man_n alive_a where_o then_o have_v be_v the_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n all_o that_o while_n according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n touch_v child_n baptism_n sure_o they_o will_v not_o hold_v the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n a_o infallible_a essential_a note_n of_o a_o church_n so_o long_o as_o while_o infant_n grow_v up_o to_o be_v man_n for_o true_a preach_v of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n on_o the_o preacher_n part_n may_v be_v to_o heathen_n doubtless_o as_o m._n p._n and_o vossius_fw-la distinguish_v wide_n be_v the_o difference_n of_o a_o church_n in_o the_o constitution_n when_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n must_v receive_v the_o first_o seal_n from_o a_o church_n constitute_v wherein_o the_o first_o seal_n descend_v from_o the_o believer_n to_o his_o child_n for_o any_o precept_n that_o appear_v in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n to_o the_o contrary_n but_o mr_n t._n faith_n in_o his_o second_o particular_a which_o will_v nothing_o please_v the_o anabaptist_n perhaps_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o be_v say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n because_o not_o lawful_a be_v not_o therefore_o null_a note_n note_n we_o reply_v mr_n t._n speak_v but_o perhaps_o and_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o to_o say_v so_o but_o what_o perhaps_o will_v m._n t._n say_v and_o how_o necessary_o say_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v all_o null_n by_o that_o time_n he_o have_v full_o concoct_v this_o principle_n of_o the_o unlawfullnesse_n of_o the_o baptise_v of_o any_o infant_n as_o thousand_o of_o other_o have_v do_v and_o some_o honest_a man_n and_o scholar_n who_o upon_o the_o say_a principle_n of_o antipaedaptist_n have_v turn_v anabaptist_n though_o they_o draw_v their_o original_n of_o rebaptisme_n from_o most_o scripturelesse_a se-baptisme_n i_o may_v well_o put_v the_o question_n for_o by_o that_o time_n m._n tomb_n be_v go_v six_o leaf_n further_a viz._n in_o the_o 34_o and_o last_o page_n of_o his_o exercitation_n he_o begin_v to_o be_v beyond_o perhaps_o and_o speak_v as_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o say_v that_o the_o assume_v of_o baptism_n in_o ripe_a year_n by_o those_o who_o be_v wash_v in_o infancy_n be_v not_o a_o renounce_n of_o baptism_n as_o some_o in_o their_o gross_a ignorance_n conceit_n but_o indeed_o a_o firm_a avouch_v of_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n mind_n if_o the_o reader_n will_v but_o mark_v these_o line_n well_o and_o especial_o those_o word_n we_o have_v put_v in_o another_o character_n he_o will_v easy_o be_v a_o commentator_n to_o himself_o upon_o mr_n tomb_n his_o warp_a judgement_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o three_o particular_a wherein_o he_o aessert_v that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n baptism_n of_o person_n grow_v in_o all_o age_n and_o quote_v ludovicus_n vives_z to_o prove_v it_o we_o reply_v first_o to_o his_o assertion_n first_o that_o be_v very_o general_a for_o a_o answer_n to_o a_o argument_n there_o be_v person_n how_o many_o in_o all_o age_n what_o mean_v that_o in_o every_o hundred_o year_n or_o ordinary_a age_n of_o man_n suppose_v sixty_o year_n or_o less_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o clear_v a_o continue_a succession_n of_o the_o church_n in_o point_n of_o baptise_v person_n of_o ripe_a year_n second_o let_v we_o deal_v plain_o one_o with_o another_o in_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n can_n m._n t._n or_o any_o else_o produce_v proof_n that_o in_o england_n scotland_n ireland_n etc._n etc._n there_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o either_o of_o these_o at_o least_o one_o of_o ripe_a year_n every_o year_n for_o these_o 80_o or_o a_o 100_o year_n last_o pass_v if_o not_o or_o if_o so_o where_o be_v a_o sufficient_a number_n to_o continue_v the_o succession_n of_o church_n we_o talk_v of_o in_o point_n of_o adult-baptisme_n baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n 2_o to_o his_o quotation_n of_o lord_v vives_z we_o say_v first_o he_o be_v but_o of_o yesterday_o to_o say_v without_o proof_n what_o have_v be_v in_o former_a age_n for_o in_o all_o his_o note_n on_o august_n he_o cite_v not_o one_o scripture_n not_o one_o antiquity_n not_o one_o author_n nor_o any_o thing_n that_o may_v go_v for_o a_o reason_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o fashion_n of_o question_n put_v to_o humane-devised_n godfather_n and_o godmother_n as_o they_o call_v they_o and_o of_o a_o hear-say_n out_o of_o italy_n a_o likely_a place_n to_o preserve_v any_o pure_a truth_n 2._o though_o lud._n vives_z be_v a_o good_a scholar_n in_o art_n yet_o we_o must_v not_o give_v credit_n to_o he_o in_o divine_a thing_n when_o his_o phrase_n depart_v from_o purity_n and_o his_o assertion_n from_o verity_n he_o say_v nem_v olin_n sacro_fw-la admovebatur_fw-la baptisterio_fw-la that_o be_v no_o man_n of_o old_a be_v bring_v unto_o the_o holy_a baptistery_n font_n or_o vessel_n to_o wash_v in_o he_o put_v holiness_n in_o or_o upon_o the_o vessel_n in_o which_o these_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n be_v baptize_v for_o it_o shall_v seem_v by_o he_o they_o be_v not_o baptize_v in_o a_o river_n which_o phrase_n of_o lud._n vives_z mr_n tomb_n cover_v with_o a_o double_a garment_n first_o translate_n baptisterio_n by_o the_o word_n place_n that_o being_n wide_a enough_o in_o signification_n to_o include_v river_n second_o translate_n sacro_fw-la baptisterio_n the_o holy_a place_n by_o the_o place_n of_o holy_a baptism_n lord_v vives_z go_v on_o nisi_fw-la adulta_fw-la jam_fw-la aetate_fw-la that_o be_v unless_o he_o be_v of_o ripe_a age_n already_o now_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a mistake_n and_o opposite_a to_o the_o best_a approve_a antiquity_n that_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v a_o know_a custom_n in_o the_o church_n to_o baptize_v infant_n within_o few_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n john_n and_o therefore_o this_o custom_n can_v not_o total_o invade_v the_o church_n on_o such_o a_o sudden_a without_o any_o mention_n in_o antiquity_n but_o flow_v doubtless_o down_o from_o the_o apostle_n so_o justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n origen_n cyprian_n gregory_n natianzen_n ambrose_n augustine_n and_o other_o for_o the_o pretence_n make_v by_o mr_n t._n against_o some_o quotation_n of_o those_o father_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o to_o take_v they_o off_o and_o to_o justify_v these_o antiquity_n when_o we_o come_v in_o our_o xiii_o chapter_n to_o mr_n tomb_n his_o four_o argument_n against_o the_o baptise_v of_o believer_n infant_n in_o his_o exercitation_n §_o 17._o for_o the_o present_a we_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v to_z vives_z or_o mr_n tomb_n upon_o this_o argument_n but_o only_o to_o admire_v that_o mr_n tomb_n will_v translate_v vives_z as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v more_o than_o once_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n for_o so_o it_o lie_v fair_a in_o mr_n tomb_n his_o translation_n to_o please_v a_o anabaptist_n namely_o the_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n desire_v to_o be_v wash_v in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n and_o that_o more_o than_o once_o whereas_o mr_n tomb_n follow_v the_o latin_a close_o which_o be_v so_o ablui_fw-la illâ—_n aquâ_fw-la peâ—eres_fw-la nec_fw-la semel_fw-la peteres_fw-la he_o may_v have_v translate_v clear_a that_o he_o desire_v and_o desire_a more_o than_o once_o what_o to_o be_v wash_v with_o that_o water_n chap._n x._o seventhly_o heb._n 6.2_o examine_v exercitat_fw-la §_o 14._o the_o argument_n from_o heb._n 6.2_o for_o infant-baptisme_n examine_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o baptism_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n now_o this_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o be_v understand_v of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n in_o heal_a sick_a person_n or_o bestow_v the_o holy_a ghost_n for_o these_o be_v extraordinary_a or_o miraculous_a and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v put_v in_o the_o number_n of_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o oracle_n of_o god_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n nor_o of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o ordination_n to_o special_a function_n in_o the_o church_n for_o that_o though_o ordinary_a yet_o not_o likely_a to_o be_v put_v among_o the_o principle_n the_o foundation_n milk_n for_o babe_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o it_o be_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n on_o child_n former_o baptize_v in_o infancy_n which_o though_o corrupt_o make_v a_o sacrament_n by_o papist_n and_o superstitious_o abuse_v yet_o be_v free_v from_o the_o
justin_n martyr_n 2._o to_o the_o mention_n of_o irenaeus_n we_o say_v orthod_n resp_n ad_fw-la qu._n 115._o ad_fw-la orthod_n that_o this_o argument_n be_v weak_a also_o for_o first_o justin_n martyr_n be_v put_v in_o anno_fw-la 130._o after_o christ_n and_o they_o say_v he_o be_v martyr_v not_o till_o anno_fw-la 165_o helvic_n 165_o helvic_n yea_o some_o say_v not_o till_o 169_o buchol_n 169_o buchol_n and_o irenaeus_n be_v a_o bishop_n anno_fw-la 170_o and_o therefore_o must_v needs_o be_v famous_a many_o year_n before_o justin_n martyr_n death_n and_o therefore_o well_o may_v they_o quote_v one_o another_o in_o their_o book_n but_o to_o allow_v more_o then_o mr._n t._n object_n namely_o as_o some_o object_n that_o justin_n martyr_n in_o the_o say_a place_n call_v irenaeus_n martyr_n when_o as_o he_o be_v martyr_v long_o after_o justin_n martyr_n death_n we_o answer_v that_o if_o that_o word_n martyr_n be_v not_o put_v in_o by_o some_o late_a scribe_n since_o for_o the_o honour_n and_o distinction_n of_o the_o man_n however_o in_o the_o english_a the_o word_n martyr_v be_v take_v yet_o usual_o in_o latin_a and_o more_o constant_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o signify_v only_o a_o witness_n and_o irenaeus_n be_v a_o famous_a witness_n to_o the_o truth_n by_o pen_n and_o profession_n in_o justin_n martyr_n time_n though_o not_o by_o blood_n again_o if_o martyr_n be_v take_v for_o a_o sufferer_n yet_o not_o always_o for_o a_o sufferer_n by_o death_n isaac_n be_v say_v to_o be_v persecute_v by_o ishmael_n only_o mock_v he_o gal._n 4.29_o gen._n 21.9_o which_o kind_n of_o opposition_n and_o worse_o irenaeus_n no_o doubt_n meet_v with_o in_o those_o persecute_v time_n of_o he_o and_o of_o justins_n as_o forerunner_n of_o the_o effusion_n of_o their_o blood_n 3._o to_o the_o mention_n of_o origen_n in_o his_o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n resp_n ad_fw-la qu._n 82._o &_o 86._o we_o say_v that_o chronologer_n and_o historian_n those_o few_o we_o can_v cast_v a_o look_n upon_o be_v so_o uncertain_a about_o the_o life_n and_o death_n of_o these_o two_o father_n as_o be_v wonderful_a bucholcer_n bucholcer_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o some_o that_o origen_n and_o justin_n martyr_n be_v within_o some_o 14_o or_o 15_o year_n one_o of_o another_o and_o we_o hear_v afore_o that_o some_o make_v justin_n martyr_n far_o long_o live_v than_o other_o do_v now_o if_o indeed_o as_o who_o know_v to_o the_o contrary_a either_o origen_n be_v bear_v soon_o or_o justin_n martyr_n live_v long_o but_o a_o few_o year_n justin_n martyr_n may_v well_o hear_v of_o origen_n who_o be_v a_o great_a scholar_n very_o young_a even_o before_o he_o be_v 18_o year_n old_a and_o write_v soon_o and_o much_o in_o all_o 7000_o book_n as_o hieroni_n report_v i_o confess_v for_o my_o part_n i_o speak_v my_o conscience_n if_o that_o be_v all_o the_o objection_n i_o shall_v soon_o believe_v man_n writing_n quote_v one_o another_o as_o sufficient_a testimony_n that_o they_o live_v some_o year_n at_o 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and_o learned_a etc._n etc._n shall_v think_v beside_o or_o contrary_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n let_v that_o go_v among_o his_o own_o proper_a hide_a and_o private_a opiniol_n or_o conceit_n as_o different_z and_z severed_z from_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o common_a judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o last_o give_v we_o leave_v to_o add_v our_o observation_n 1_o that_o according_a to_o the_o design_n in_o hand_n nazianzen_n hold_v the_o baptism_n of_o little_a child_n that_o have_v not_o yet_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n not_o as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o according_a to_o his_o judgement_n as_o well_o as_o other_o right_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o institution_n and_o administration_n of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o of_o the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o paschal_n blood_n on_o the_o doore-post_n exod._n 12._o have_v baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v hold_v in_o his_o time_n only_o as_o a_o tradition_n he_o have_v not_o argue_v it_o from_o scripture_n 2_o that_o for_o 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if_o a_o infant_n die_v before_o it_o be_v baptize_v but_o nazianzen_n mean_v danger_n of_o bodily_a death_n and_o therefore_o give_v it_o as_o a_o precept_n or_o command_n that_o in_o case_n there_o be_v danger_n that_o the_o infant_n may_v die_v before_o it_o be_v seal_v with_o baptism_n let_v it_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o figure_n thereof_o circumcision_n etc._n etc._n see_v before_o obj._n 2._o nazianzen_n say_v h._n d._n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o he_o be_v 30._o year_n old_a as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o his_o life_n answ_n if_o that_o in_o nazianzens_n life_n say_v this_o true_o yet_o this_o may_v be_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o persecution_n of_o those_o time_n or_o indisposition_n of_o his_o parent_n or_o other_o press_a necessity_n and_o therefore_o do_v infer_v no_o more_o than_o that_o circumcision_n ought_v not_o after_o the_o israelite_n come_v into_o canaan_n to_o be_v administer_v till_o man_n be_v forty_o year_n old_a because_o so_o long_o it_o be_v defer_v in_o the_o wilderness_n christ_n himself_o be_v not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a yet_o the_o anabaptist_n will_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n of_o this_o that_o only_o those_o of_o just_a that_o age_n must_v be_v baptize_v sure_o enough_o if_o nazianzen_n his_o baptism_n be_v defer_v past_o childhood_n it_o be_v not_o intend_v by_o he_o for_o a_o regulate_a example_n but_o oft_o in_o that_o oration_n forequote_v in_o several_a place_n exhort_v to_o hasten_v baptism_n baptism_n baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n have_v a_o infant_n lest_o improbity_n snatch_v away_o the_o opportunity_n let_v he_o be_v sanctify_v from_o his_o infancy_n meaning_n baptism_n have_v speak_v in_o the_o very_a next_o precede_v word_n against_o delay_n of_o baptism_n naz._n orat._n â—0_n p._n 648._o see_v also_o p._n 646_o think_v all_o time_n to_o be_v certain_a &_o determine_v for_o baptism_n and_o not_o to_o defer_v it_o after_o the_o example_n of_o christ_n not_o baptize_v till_o thirty_o year_n old_a lat._n old_a ibid._n p._n 658._o edit_fw-la paris_n graec._n &_o lat._n and_o you_o hear_v in_o the_o place_n quote_v that_o he_o mention_n defer_v in_o any_o case_n but_o till_o 3_o or_o 4_o year_n old_a or_o less_o sometime_o which_o be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n with_o baptise_v believer_n infant_n at_o three_o month_n or_o three_o week_n unless_o the_o mathematical_a consideration_n of_o word_n speak_v without_o knowledge_n as_o persius_n his_o parrot_n speak_v greek_n baptize_v greek_n one_o of_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o a_o book_n call_v the_o character_n of_o the_o beast_n say_v if_o one_o confess_v his_o sin_n though_o there_o be_v no_o sign_n of_o grace_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v prevail_v with_o some_o second_o mr._n tomb_n object_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la against_o nazianzen_n examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o 1._o he_o object_n with_o a_o interrogation_n but_o do_v greg._n nazianzen_n say_v mr._n t._n seem_v only_o to_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n the_o word_n say_v he_o be_v plain_a that_o nazianzen_n give_v the_o reason_n why_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n shall_v be_v baptize_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o may_v not_o miss_v of_o the_o common_a grace_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o give_v his_o opinion_n of_o other_o that_o they_o shall_v stay_v long_o that_o they_o may_v be_v instruct_v and_o so_o their_o mind_n and_o body_n may_v be_v sanctify_v thus_o mr._n t._n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la we_o answer_v first_o if_o greg._n nazianzen_n do_v give_v reason_n why_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v in_o case_n they_o be_v not_o likely_a to_o live_v to_o be_v of_o ripe_a year_n it_o be_v so_o much_o the_o better_a for_o we_o second_o he_o do_v give_v another_o reason_n beside_o that_o of_o partake_v of_o common_a grace_n namely_o 1_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o it_o be_v better_a they_o shall_v be_v sanctify_v without_o a_o feel_n of_o it_o then_o to_o depart_v without_o the_o seal_n so_o he_o think_v they_o be_v sanctify_v too_o in_o infancy_n as_o well_o as_o at_o ripe_a year_n 2_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o reason_n also_o of_o this_o to_o we_o be_v circumsion_n that_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v on_o the_o eight_o day_n etc._n etc._n three_o we_o answer_v that_o all_o three_o reason_n stand_v in_o force_n as_o well_o for_o all_o believer_n infant_n god_n put_v they_o under_o the_o promise_n gen._n 17._o as_o for_o those_o infant_n that_o be_v in_o danger_n of_o death_n four_o that_o nazianzen_n urge_v divers_a divine_a reason_n to_o he_o evince_v for_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n but_o for_o the_o delay_n of_o other_o not_o in_o danger_n of_o death_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o give_v my_o opinion_n he_o call_v it_o his_o opinion_n and_o what_o be_v it_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d such_o child_n shall_v stay_v till_o three_o or_o four_o year_n old_a more_o or_o less_o and_o what_o be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o child_n of_o that_o age_n more_o then_o from_o infant_n towards_o baptism_n for_o nazianzen_n himself_o confess_v that_o though_o they_o may_v then_o hear_v and_o answer_v some_o spiritual_a thing_n yet_o they_o understand_v imperfect_o but_o do_v nazianzen_n give_v we_o there_o any_o scripture_n for_o this_o differ_v none_o do_v he_o give_v any_o reason_n even_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o as_o for_o baptise_v of_o infant_n in_o danger_n of_o death_n to_o wit_n that_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v in_o mind_n and_o body_n second_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o mr._n t._n object_n upon_o our_o allege_v nazianzen_n against_o all_o the_o greek_a father_n in_o effect_n that_o we_o have_v allege_v and_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n first_o thus_o it_o be_v wonder_n to_o i_o say_v mr._n
he_o recite_v monimus_n quote_v augustine_n and_o at_o the_o end_n of_o fulgentius_n his_o work_n be_v print_v at_o basil_n together_o with_o they_o augustine_n or_o rather_o prosper_v book_n of_o answer_n to_o article_n impose_v upon_o he_o and_o some_o body_n 6_o book_n hypognosticon_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o calumny_n of_o the_o pelagian_o now_o whether_o all_o this_o may_v argue_v fulgentius_n his_o reliance_n on_o augustine_n argument_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n for_o mr_n t._n to_o say_v prosper_n fulgentius_n and_o those_o three_o counsel_n rest_v on_o augustine_n word_n and_o to_o bring_v we_o no_o instance_n or_o to_o say_v they_o rest_v on_o his_o argument_n and_o to_o bring_v we_o no_o parallel_n of_o both_o their_o argument_n be_v to_o dictate_v not_o to_o prove_v or_o to_o say_v they_o rely_v on_o his_o argument_n and_o after_o to_o say_v they_o rely_v on_o his_o word_n be_v a_o expression_n of_o inconsistency_n or_o to_o say_v they_o rely_v on_o his_o argument_n be_v improbable_a likely_a they_o may_v rely_v upon_o argument_n by_o he_o use_v but_o not_o as_o he_o but_o as_o divine_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n where_o augustine_n urge_v they_o but_o for_o mr_n t._n to_o say_v they_o rely_v altogether_o on_o augustine_n argument_n be_v impossible_a for_o mr_n t._n to_o make_v good_a to_o we_o or_o for_o we_o to_o believe_v of_o those_o worthy_n for_o the_o counsel_n mr_n t._n do_v not_o intimate_v much_o less_o cipher_n to_o we_o which_o for_o there_o be_v many_o of_o those_o name_n he_o mean_v if_o he_o mean_v those_o coetanian_a convent_v in_o the_o same_o 416_o year_n after_o christ_n perk._n reus_n bucholc_n perk._n when_o about_o by_o consent_n of_o chronologer_n pelagianisme_n begin_v to_o be_v condemn_v in_o council_n and_o augustine_n have_v now_o a_o while_n be_v famous_a we_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o this_o council_n of_o carthage_n pelagius_n and_o coelestius_n the_o heretic_n be_v condemn_v but_o by_o notable_a scripture-argument_n without_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o augustine_n and_o it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o counsel_n epistle_n to_o p._n innocent_a the_o first_o and_o that_o p._n innocent_n epistle_n back_o to_o that_o council_n be_v by_o some_o body_n put_v among_o the_o epistle_n of_o augustine_n and_o be_v there_o the_o 90._o and_o 91._o ep._n but_o neither_o do_v p._n innocent_n in_o his_o epistle_n take_v the_o least_o particular_a notice_n of_o augustine_n nor_o do_v the_o council_n in_o their_o epistle_n nor_o do_v i_o know_v whether_o mr_n t._n do_v confide_v that_o augustine_n be_v at_o this_o council_n by_o the_o name_n subscribe_v thus_o to_o the_o most_o bless_a and_o most_o honour_a brother_n innocent_a the_o pope_n aurelius_n numidius_n rusticâ—anus_n etc._n etc._n who_o be_v present_a in_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n therein_o be_v then_o aurelius_n bishop_n of_o carthage_n as_o appear_v in_o the_o epistle_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a council_n of_o milevis_n to_o the_o emperor_n archad_n and_o honor._n but_o when_o augustine_n bpp_o of_o hippon_n be_v name_v at_o a_o council_n he_o be_v call_v augustinus_n and_o if_o there_o be_v two_o of_o the_o same_o name_n at_o a_o council_n they_o be_v both_o name_v with_o alius_fw-la as_o at_o this_o council_n of_o carthage_n restitutus_n alius_fw-la restitutus_n and_o victor_n alius_fw-la victor_n but_o here_o be_v but_o once_o aurelius_n and_o no_o augustinus_n as_o for_o the_o say_a council_n of_o milevis_n it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o their_o epistle_n to_o p._n innocent_a there_o be_v among_o the_o rest_n express_v silvanus_n valentinus_n aurelius_n donatus_n restitutus_n lucianus_n alypius_n augustinus_n placentius_n &c_n &c_n and_o that_o that_o council_n also_o be_v convent_v against_o pelagius_n and_o coelestius_n but_o we_o find_v not_o either_o in_o the_o act_n of_o that_o council_n or_o in_o the_o epistle_n or_o etc._n etc._n that_o there_o be_v any_o more_o particular_a notice_n of_o augustine_n then_o of_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n much_o less_o of_o any_o of_o his_o argument_n against_o the_o pelagian_o or_o of_o his_o urge_v any_o one_o argument_n yea_o bucholcerus_n say_v that_o after_o these_o two_o council_n viz._n in_o anno_fw-la 417._o augustine_n begin_v to_o refute_v the_o error_n of_o pelagius_n by_o this_o augustine_n shall_v rather_o learn_v at_o these_o council_n to_o dispute_v against_o pelagianisme_n than_o they_o to_o rely_v on_o he_o in_o the_o next_o council_n of_o carthage_n in_o order_n of_o the_o print_a council_n though_o augustine_n be_v there_o yet_o any_o dispute_n of_o pelagianisme_n be_v not_o there_o in_o the_o seven_o council_n of_o carthage_n bin._n bin._n alias_o a_o part_n or_o 2_o session_n of_o the_o sixth_o we_o find_v but_o five_o title_n of_o chapter_n or_o canon_n but_o they_o say_v there_o be_v recite_v 105_o whereof_o a_o great_a part_n be_v those_o at_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n and_o in_o the_o council_n of_o milevis_n as_o they_o say_v in_o the_o title_n of_o this_o seven_o or_o six_o council_n but_o that_o which_o they_o call_v the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n they_o date_n in_o the_o title_n to_o be_v in_o anno_fw-la 438_o which_o be_v say_v bucholcerus_n 8_o year_n after_o augustine_n death_n if_o they_o mean_v that_o council_n of_o carthage_n and_o milevis_n of_o the_o same_o 416_o year_n after_o christ_n to_o they_o we_o have_v answer_v already_o if_o the_o residue_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o this_o seven_o council_n of_o carthage_n be_v as_o the_o note_n on_o it_o tell_v we_o and_o i_o rather_o believe_v recite_v in_o the_o follow_a african_a council_n convent_v in_o the_o time_n of_o boniface_n and_o celestin_n there_o indeed_o that_o council_n be_v in_o diverse_a canon_n against_o pelagius_n and_o coelestius_n too_o and_o that_o about_o baptism_n of_o infant_n which_o we_o mention_v afore_o at_o large_a but_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o of_o augustine_n person_n or_o rrgument_n there_o and_o be_v after_o that_o which_o mr_n t._n quote_v for_o the_o council_n of_o arles_n if_o mr_n t._n mean_v the_o second_o it_o be_v too_o ancient_a be_v under_o siricius_n who_o be_v anno_fw-la 385._o i_o say_v too_o ancient_a to_o be_v sway_v by_o augustine_n who_o be_v not_o famous_a according_a to_o mr_n t._n till_o anno_fw-la 405._o or_o 410._o against_o pelagianism_n if_o there_o have_v be_v in_o it_o any_o debate_n about_o it_o as_o there_o be_v none_o if_o mr_n t._n mean_v the_o three_o council_n of_o arles_n this_o be_v too_o young_a and_o of_o too_o late_a time_n be_v anno_fw-la 461_o or_o as_o other_o 514_o under_o p._n john_n 1._o for_o augustine_n to_o be_v there_o nor_o be_v there_o need_v of_o his_o argument_n for_o there_o be_v but_o few_o canon_n and_o none_o about_o pelagianisme_n it_o be_v true_a one_o faustus_n write_v a_o epistle_n to_o one_o lucidus_fw-la a_o pelagian_a against_o his_o error_n which_o he_o have_v vent_v in_o a_o book_n which_o caesarinus_n avitus_n and_o johannes_n antiochenus_fw-la confute_v in_o writing_n and_o this_o council_n approve_v faustus_n his_o epistle_n in_o neither_o of_o all_o which_o be_v there_o the_o least_o mention_n that_o i_o can_v find_v of_o augustine_n name_n or_o argument_n if_o mr_n t._n think_v i_o have_v not_o say_v enough_o or_o not_o punctual_o to_o his_o 3_o council_n and_o two_o father_n let_v he_o blame_v his_o non-quotation_n and_o general_a and_o confuse_a intimation_n thus_o of_o fulgentius_n prosper_n and_o the_o three_o council_n next_o mr_n t._n object_n that_o augustine_n be_v count_v as_o one_o of_o the_o four_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n like_o the_o four_o evangelist_n 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o his_o opinion_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o church_n judgement_n and_o the_o school_n determination_n as_o to_o the_o great_a hurt_n of_o god_n church_n luther_n and_o other_o have_v be_v of_o late_a answer_n animadver_n animadver_n to_o that_o of_o augustine_n respect_n and_o authority_n in_o matter_n of_o dispute_n we_o have_v speak_v once_o and_o again_o that_o it_o have_v not_o be_v so_o high_a as_o mr_n t._n his_o elevation_n there_o be_v sundry_a antagonist_n and_o some_o honest_o mind_v as_o acrius_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v pretty_a well_o keep_v augustine_n hierom_n etc._n etc._n from_o too_o much_o height_n and_o extravagancy_n as_o the_o calvanist_n do_v the_o lutheran_n and_o like_o instance_n may_v begve_v of_o late_a time_n but_o augustine_n ibid._n examen_fw-la ibid._n say_v mr_n t._n prove_v original_a sin_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n and_o so_o do_v the_o council_n of_o milevis_n anathematise_v they_o that_o do_v deny_v it_o ergo_fw-la great_a be_v the_o sway_n of_o augustine_n authority_n we_o answer_v animadver_n animadver_n have_v speak_v of_o the_o council_n afore_o and_o of_o their_o scripture_n argument_n that_o augustine_n prove_v infant-baptisme_n from_o
baptise_v the_o infant_n of_o those_o who_o ancestor_n be_v believer_n the_o next_o parent_n remain_v in_o unbelief_n these_o thing_n show_v that_o man_n have_v depart_v from_o the_o rule_n when_o they_o know_v not_o where_o to_o stay_v these_o four_o argument_n of_o m._n t._n to_o wit_n the_o 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o i_o have_v put_v together_o be_v much_o alike_o for_o notion_n and_o validity_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la and_o so_o apt_a to_o receive_v one_o and_o the_o same_o general_a answer_n by_o way_n of_o retorsion_n thereby_o to_o discover_v their_o weakness_n the_o sum_n of_o they_o be_v this_o that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o human-invention_n error_n fault_n in_o discipline_n and_o unnecessary_a dispute_n be_v doubtful_a but_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n have_v occasion_v all_o these_o therefore_o the_o tenet_n and_o practice_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v uncertain_a we_o retorâ—_n that_o which_o have_v occasion_v many_o human-invention_n error_n 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four_o council_n of_o carthage_n 85._o carthage_n bin._n ca._n 85._o tell_v we_o thus_o this_o that_o those_o of_o ripe_a year_n to_o be_v baptize_v must_v be_v dyet_v and_o keep_v from_o flesh_n and_o wine_n along_o time_n and_o after_o that_o have_v be_v examine_v several_a time_n they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v 3_o epiphanius_n baâ—il_n epiphanius_n epiphan_n anacephal_a pag._n 408._o ediâ—_n lat._n baâ—il_n declare_v that_o the_o eunomian_o call_v in_o the_o margin_n anabaptist_n dore-baptise_a all_o that_o come_v to_o they_o yea_o they_o re-baptise_a the_o arian_n also_o who_o deny_v christ_n to_o be_v god_n and_o they_o rebaptise_v they_o say_v epiphanius_n turn_v their_o head_n downward_o and_o their_o heel_n upward_o 4_o vossius_fw-la 17._o vossius_fw-la gerard._n joh._n vossius_fw-la de_fw-la anabaptismo_fw-la thes_n 17._o take_v notice_n out_o of_o epiphanius_n of_o this_o we_o be_v not_o ignorant_a say_v vossius_fw-la that_o the_o hemâ—robaptists_n think_v that_o none_o can_v be_v save_v unless_o they_o be_v daily_o baptize_v whence_o they_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d daily-baptists_a and_o so_o be_v cleanse_v from_o their_o sin_n but_o they_o be_v a_o sect_n of_o jew_n as_o we_o know_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n the_o 17_o sect_n of_o the_o jew_n 5_o the_o same_o vossius_fw-la 18._o vossius_fw-la geâ—_n john_n vossius_fw-la de_fw-fr anabap_n thes_n 18._o assett_n that_o the_o marcionite_n do_v say_v for_o which_o they_o have_v no_o reason_n that_o baptism_n may_v be_v iterate_v and_o tertiate_v that_o be_v repeat_v and_o do_v three_o time_n i_o will_v bring_v you_o say_v vossius_fw-la a_o place_n out_o of_o epiphanius_n against_o the_o marcionist_n haeres_fw-la 42._o when_o martion_n have_v in_o his_o own_o city_n defile_v a_o virgin_n and_o flee_v and_o be_v find_v in_o that_o great_a sin_n the_o juggler_n invent_v to_o himself_o a_o second_o laver_v assert_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o give_v remission_n of_o sin_n unto_o the_o number_n of_o three_o laver_n that_o be_v three_o baptism_n whereby_o if_o any_o one_o have_v backsliden_a after_o his_o first_o have_v act_v repentance_n he_o may_v receive_v the_o second_o and_o likewise_o the_o three_o if_o he_o be_v take_v in_o a_o sin_n after_o the_o second_o how_o he_o prove_v this_o opinion_n epiphanius_n say_v vossius_fw-la subjoin_v viz._n the_o first_o baptism_n he_o collect_v in_o that_o christ_n be_v baptize_v by_o john_n the_o second_o and_o three_o because_o christ_n say_v i_o have_v a_o baptism_n to_o be_v baptize_v with_o and_o what_o will_v i_o if_o i_o have_v already_o finish_v it_o again_o i_o have_v a_o cup_n to_o drink_v and_o what_o will_v i_o if_o i_o shall_v now_o fulfil_v it_o both_o place_n say_v vossius_fw-la be_v take_v out_o of_o martion_n his_o pseudo-gospell_n that_o be_v false_a gospel_n to_o the_o first_o there_o be_v somewhat_o like_o luke_n 12.50_o to_o the_o second_o somewhat_o mat._n 20_o 22_o 23._o but_o christ_n speak_v there_o not_o of_o the_o baptism_n of_o water_n but_o of_o the_o baptism_n of_o blood_n that_o be_v of_o his_o passion_n and_o death_n suitable_a to_o this_o oft_o baptise_v m._n t._n have_v two_o passage_n the_o first_o in_o his_o exercit_fw-la at_o pag._n the_o last_o nor_o be_v say_v he_o the_o assume_v of_o baptism_n in_o ripe_a year_n by_o those_o who_o be_v wash_v in_o infancy_n a_o renounce_n of_o baptism_n as_o some_o in_o their_o gross_a ignorance_n conceit_n but_o indeed_o a_o firm_a avouch_v of_o baptism_n according_a to_o christ_n mind_n the_o second_o be_v in_o his_o examen_fw-la part_n 2_o sect._n 4._o m._n t._n his_o note_n in_o the_o margin_n be_v of_o rebate_v his_o word_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o master_n martial_n there_o be_v these_o you_o go_v on_o rebaptising_a §_o 4._o of_o rebaptising_a since_o that_o time_n multitude_n in_o germany_n have_v embrace_v his_o opinion_n who_o because_o they_o oppose_v paedobaptism_n be_v force_v to_o reiterate_v their_o own_o baptism_n and_o thence_o be_v call_v anaebaptist_n afore_o i_o proceed_v because_o it_o go_v so_o currant_n that_o rebaptisation_n be_v not_o only_o a_o error_n but_o also_o a_o heresy_n let_v i_o beg_v of_o you_o one_o good_a argument_n to_o prove_v it_o unlawful_a inse_v or_o intrinsical_o i_o mean_v without_o respect_n to_o scandal_n or_o the_o like_a cause_n by_o accident_n for_o a_o man_n that_o have_v be_v baptize_v right_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o one_o baptism_n eph._n 45._o be_v not_o to_o i_o all_o one_o as_o once_o baptise_v no_o more_o than_o one_o faith_n once_o believe_v we_o be_v regenerate_v by_o baptism_n and_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v but_o once_o but_o be_v we_o not_o bear_v a_o gain_n by_o the_o word_n and_o must_v that_o be_v but_o once_o preach_v be_v not_o sin_n mortify_v the_o church_n sanctify_v by_o baptism_n and_o be_v not_o these_o often_o and_o for_o example_n if_o there_o be_v as_o good_a for_o paedobaptism_n as_o that_o act._n 19.5_o 6._o for_o rebaptise_v the_o 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about_o baptism_n thus_o of_o m._n t._n his_o 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o argument_n with_o a_o general_a and_o particular_a answer_n thereunto_o chap._n xx._n next_o we_o come_v to_o m._n t._n his_o ten_o argument_n which_o be_v this_o 23._o exercitat_fw-la §_o 23._o that_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o darkness_n under_o the_o papacy_n the_o same_o man_n oppose_v infant-baptisme_n who_o oppose_v invocation_n of_o saint_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a adoration_n of_o the_o cross_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v manifest_a 1_o out_o of_o the_o 66_o sermon_n of_o bernard_n on_o the_o canticle_n whereof_o the_o heretic_n as_o he_o call_v they_o who_o he_o say_v boast_v themselves_o to_o be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o name_v themselves_o apostolic_a he_o have_v these_o word_n they_o deride_v we_o because_o we_o baptise_v infant_n because_o we_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o his_o 140_o epistle_n to_o hildefonsus_n he_o complain_v of_o henricus_n the_o heritick_n that_o he_o take_v away_o holi-day_n etc._n etc._n and_o deny_v the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n to_o infant_n 2_o from_o the_o epistle_n of_o p_o abbat-cluniacensis_a to_o three_o bishop_n of_o france_n against_o peter_n de_fw-fr bruis_n and_o henricus_n hold_v error_n digest_v into_o five_o head_n 1_o that_o little_a one_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v 2_o that_o church_n or_o altar_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v make_v 3_o that_o the_o cross_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v not_o to_o be_v adore_v etc._n etc._n 3_o from_o lucas_n osiander_n his_o epitome_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n cent._n 13._o l._n 1._o c._n 4._o at_o the_o year_n 1207_o where_o he_o accuse_v the_o albigensis_n as_o consent_v with_o the_o anabaptist_n 4_o to_o which_o i_o add_v that_o in_o the_o age_n near_o the_o apostle_n tertulian_n in_o his_o book_n of_o baprisme_n cap._n 18._o greg._n nazianzen_n in_o his_o 40_o oration_n of_o holy_a baptism_n dissuade_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n unless_o the_o danger_n of_o death_n happen_v thus_o far_o m._n t._n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la note_v as_o a_o introduction_n to_o our_o answer_n that_o bernard_n and_o cluniacensis_fw-la live_v about_o the_o same_o time_n that_o the_o very_a same_o henricus_n alius_fw-la heinricus_fw-la mention_v by_o bernard_n for_o a_o heretic_n be_v the_o same_o man_n in_o all_o probability_n that_o cluniaâ—ensis_n mention_v and_o in_o both_o author_n he_o be_v call_v as_o by_o himself_o pretend_v to_o be_v a_o apostle_n now_o for_o answer_n we_o say_v to_o m._n t._n his_o particular_a 1_o that_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n oppose_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n so_o do_v henricus_n at_o this_o time_n so_o say_v cluniacensis_fw-la of_o henricus_fw-la alius_fw-la heinricus_fw-la in_o the_o place_n m.t._n quote_v out_o of_o etc._n of_o see_v more_o before_o of_o cluniacensis_fw-la touch_v henricus_fw-la and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n abundant_o chap._n 14_o of_o our_o animad_fw-la pag._n 160_o 161_o etc._n etc._n cluniacensis_fw-la so_o have_v the_o opposer_n of_o infant-baptisme_n since_o see_v cloppenburgius_fw-la in_o his_o book_n call_v the_o gangrene_n of_o anabaptisticall_a divinity_n some_o particular_n we_o have_v translate_v afore_o in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n yea_o the_o say_a henricus_n and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n doubt_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o paul_n epistle_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o m.t._n his_o cluniacensis_fw-la 2_o that_o former_o those_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n hold_v all_o those_o dreadful_a error_n we_o number_v up_o a_o little_a afore_o cap._n 15._o 3_o that_o many_o of_o the_o same_o man_n that_o oppose_a infant_n baptism_n be_v either_o arian_n or_o pelagian_o or_o socinian_o or_o arminiaus_fw-la as_o we_o have_v former_o show_v out_o of_o epiphanius_n augustin_n m._n phillips_n and_o m._n ainsworth_n and_o experience_n at_o this_o day_n show_v we_o in_o they_o that_o together_o with_o anabaptism_n hold_v universal_a redemption_n and_o freewill_n 4_o that_o bernard_n do_v just_o call_v henricus_n heretic_n he_o hold_v that_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o paul_n epistle_n be_v of_o doubtful_a authority_n as_o cluniacensis_fw-la tell_v we_o out_o of_o their_o own_o writing_n 5_o on_o the_o contrary_a part_n the_o same_o man_n that_o have_v hold_v infant-baptisme_n be_v 1_o great_a light_n to_o the_o church_n as_o justin_n martyr_n irenaeus_n cyprian_n gregory_n nazianzen_n tertullian_n hierom_n augustine_n etc._n etc._n 2_o glorious_a instrument_n in_o reformation_n luther_n melancthon_n bullinger_n calvin_n 3_o be_v renown_v martyr_n die_v for_o christ_n some_o ancient_a as_o peter_z martyr_n irenaeus_n etc._n etc._n some_o late_a as_o master_n philpot_n see_v his_o letter_n in_o the_o book_n of_o martyr_n against_o anabaptism_n a_o most_o pious_a note_v ☞_o note_v learned_a and_o brave_a letter_n which_o may_v suffice_v for_o a_o treatise_n upon_o the_o point_n pen_v by_o such_o a_o gracious_a spirit_n that_o soon_o after_o pour_v out_o his_o blood_n for_o christ_n see_v his_o letter_n at_o the_o year_n 1555_o in_o the_o book_n of_o martyr_n volume_n 3._o pag._n 606._o colum_fw-la 2._o of_o the_o last_o edition_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o queen_n mary_n among_o m._n philpots_n letter_n animad_fw-la animad_fw-la to_o m._n t._n his_o second_o particular_a in_o this_o argument_n we_o answer_v that_o m._n t._n reckon_v out_o of_o cluniacensis_fw-la five_o error_n that_o henricus_n and_o de_fw-fr bruis_n hold_v against_o but_o leave_v out_o the_o great_a error_n they_o hold_v for_o which_o be_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o of_o the_o epistle_n of_o paul_n in_o the_o new_a be_v of_o doubtful_a authority_n as_o we_o touch_v afore_o to_o m.t._n his_o four_o particular_a touch_v the_o albigenses_n as_o they_o be_v call_v in_o his_o book_n we_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o m._n t._n his_o forequoted_a place_n 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