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A53190 A dialogue of polygamy, written orginally in Italian rendred into English by a person of quality ; and dedicated to the author of that well-known treatise call'd, Advice to a son. Ochino, Bernardino, 1487-1564. 1657 (1657) Wing O126; ESTC R9210 45,713 173

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clause They are no longer two but one Flesh Tel. It is as if he had said The Husband shall love every one of his Wives as if she were the same flesh and the same body with him and so likewise shall every Wife love her Husband Och. But God said they two shall be one therefore there cannot be three or foure Tel. You were in the right if he had said They two only shall be one And therefore as this Argument is of no force Christ said If two of you on Earth shall agree about a thing they shall obtain what they aske therefore if three or foure shall agree they shall not obtain the same so is this no good inference God said They two shall be one Flesh therefore if there be three it is no true Marriage Och. It is impossible for more then two to become one flesh Tel. In the primitive Church there were not only two believers but they were in great numbers having nevertheless one soul and one mind and you believe if a man had divers Wives he could not become one flesh with them If a man while he cleaves unto an Harlot becomes as Paul sayes one body with her although he have a Wife should he not much more become one flesh with her if he should make her his Wife Och. Say what you will To have more then one Wife is a thing filthy dishonest and quite contrary and destructive to the holy State of Matrimony Tel. And yet you know that Abraham had more Wives then one as also David and many other men under the old Testament who in case it had been unlawful for them to have more then one Wife they should have sinned in marrying divers Women and the Children which they had by all their Wives excepting the first should have been Bastards because not begotten in lawful Matrimony Och. I will sooner grant all that you have said then I will allow or grant it lawful for one man to have more then one Wife Those Ancients were holy men yet did they sometimes sin They were sinners as being born of Adam as appeares in the example of David and they should have deceived themselves if they had denyed themselves to be sinners Tel. That they sometimes sinned I shall easily grant but I will never yield that they continued in their sins till their day of death which nevertheless they did in case it was unlawful for them to have divers Wives Whence it would follow that they were all damned as those who die while they keep a Concubine As for us we cannot hold them for Saints seeing we know not for certain that they ever repented When David had committed those same Acts of Adultery and Murther because he was one of Gods Elect God sent his Prophet to him to reprove him as also when he numbred the People contrary to the Command of God Credible therefore it is that if to have divers Wives had been contrary to the Law of God God would have used the like proceedings towards him that he might not be damned But though you read the whole Bible over you shall never finde that God has forbad the having of divers Wives And yet if it had bin a thing unlawful Moses would never have dissembled the matter Moreover the Scriptures tell us that David was a man after Gods own heart and that he was obedient to all the Lords Commandements all his life long save in the matter of Vriah So that had it been a sin to have divers Wives seeing that also had been sufficiently known the Authour would have ●●cepted it or he must doubtless make himself a lyar by saying that David committed only that sin of Homicide under which his Adultery is comprehended Again how could that be true which God said to David when blaming him for his unthankfulness he told him that he had given him many Wives which questionless must have bin all Whores except the first and so it had not bin God but the Devil that gave them unto him Moreover you shall finde that God made a Law that if any man had two Wives the one beloved the other hated and had by them divers Children the eldest of which was the son of the hated Wife it should not be allowed the Father to make the Sonne of his beloved Wife his Heire Now it might fall out that the beloved Wife might be his first Wife and so it should come to passe that though the Husband had Children by the latter sooner then by the first yet they should be Bastards if your opinion be true and born of an Whore and therefore ought not to be Heires It is therefore clear by the word of God that all the Children are legitimate though sprung from divers wives by one and the same Husband and that therefore not only the first but the following marriages are lawful seeing God did both approve and blesse them in those holy men the first Fathers of the world Och. The first thing which you say follows from my opinion that all which died having many wives should be damned I answer If they are dead not having divorced all save their first wife or without repenting of their sin they are all damned But as many of them as are saved did repent and put away all but their first and lawful wife Tel. But it is not apparent that ever any did that and yet if your opinion were true mention ought to have been made thereof in the holy Scriptures that we might know and understand That to keep divers wives is an abominable thing Och. It was already known ●hat men ought not to have more wives then one because God had commanded that the Husband and the wife should of two become one-flesh Tel. It is not likely that it was unlawful to have divers wives and that the unlawfulness thereof was known and Abraham and Iacob and David and other worthy persons like them should nevertheless marry more wives then one Och. That 's a good one As if many holy men in ancient times did not sin though they knew what they did was unlawful Tel. But they did not continue to their lives end in those sins as those that married more wives then one did Och. I told you before that if they were of the number of Gods Elect they did at last repent Tel. But we ought no longer to reckon the Patriarchs for examples sake to be Saints seeing we are assured that they sinned in having many wives but we are not assured of their repentance Och. True unlesse the word of God assures us that they were Saints as we know for example sake Abraham Isaac and Iacob to be Saints because Christ said that many should come from the East and from the West and sit down with Abraham Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven Now I conceive that as Moses because of the hardness of their hearts suffered the Jews to put away their wives without just cause so for the