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An antidote for Newcastle priests to expell their poyson of envy which they vented in a letter to the L. Generall Cromwell and in their articles which they exhibited against Capt. Everard : with an answer to their scandalous exclamations to their shame, the cleering of himself and satisfaction of his friends / by Robert Everard.
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Everard, Robert, fl. 1664.
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And the Mayor said if Capt. Robert Everard would apply himself to him he would do him all the right he could At the same time 't is well known J was pluckt down and abused by some rude people together with Capt. Pym laying violent hands upon him calling of him rascall c. all which was patiently born on our parts Again you say that J preached against any originall sin in man Answ. J did preach that Adam was the first of mankind that did transgresse and by Gods appointment death seized upon all mankind for his offence and that his death was unavoidable and further say that J hold all the originall sin that the Scripture makes mention of and J heard Mr. Hamon preach the insufficiency of natures attainments unto spirituall things crying out against those that set up nature instead of grace saying that no man could receive the things of God unlesse they were given him from above Then J went to him and gave him thanks for that telling him that I judged he was mis-informed for I knew none that held out power in nature as in in it self to attain to spirituall injoyments and I desired him to tell me if ever he read of any that held forth the same he said not much to that and to satisfie him that I held not the point so falsly fathered upon me and that I would in the afternoon preach of natures inability to spirituall things He replied he was glad of that and so we parted and accordingly J did And whereas you say J preached against Mr. Hamon you do me much injury as you have done in all your false allegations And whereas you say J say J told Mr. Hamon that I never preached against originall sin Answ. He and I had never a word about it and you further assert that I 'le say and unsay any thing Answ. You must unsay many of those things which you have accused me of otherwise your conscience will bear testimony against you both here and hereafter as a just judgment of God Again you say I stept into the pulpit in the afternoon and took the same text the Minister did in the morning abusing text and Minister Ans. I confesse I preached in the afternoon in the same place and upon the same text and whatsoever truth they delivered as much as in me lay shewed my approbation to it and where I judged they were mistaken I shewed the people the reasons of my dissenting but I did not say the Minister had deluded them though it 's probable he did for I cannot conclude that every one which heareth false doctrine is deluded which if I should I must have been deluded my self by hearing you for I heard you although you judg me by hear-say O most unrighteous judgment Again you say such is my hatred against orthodox Preachers that in publike I preached that I had rather side with Papists then with the Ministers of Newcastle Answ. You appropriate the title of orthodox Preachers to your selves That you have such a propriety I deny I might rather have said your actions deny it witnesse your covetousnesse ambition envy and false accusations all which is inconsistent with the pure doctrine of love and self-deniall which were the injunctions and ractice of our blessed Saviour Again you say I declared that I had rather side with Papists then the Priests of Newcastle An. What is good in them or you I 'le imbrace and that which is evill in both I will abandon And as for the article which you call your conclusion wherin you reflect against the honor and reputation of L. Col. Mason is answered sufficiently in the Epistle to discover unworthinesse Again you say I hold that Election from eternity hath no ground from Scriptures Ans. I never asserted that nor no point equivalent to it and whereas you say my judgment is contrary to Ephes. 1. 4 5. Rom. 8. 29 30. you ought to unsay it for I own it as the true manifestation of God Again you declare that J should say those that hold the most part of the world goes to ruine make the justice of God a great monster which is another grosse mistake in you and wheras you say J hold points contrary to Mat. 7. 13 14. Mat. 22. 14. is like the rest of your abuses towards me Again you say I hold that Adams posterity are not guilty of Adams sin I say they were not so guilty as that they did commit the same sin for the children before they are borne did neither good nor evill but none was born when that sin was committed and the Apostle saies Rom. 5. 14. that death reigned over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adams transgression but if they had committed the same sin then had it been like his but it was not ergo so I do not hold any thing contrary Rom. 5. 12. though you are pleased to say so Again you say I hold that Adam had no spirituall light Answ. If by spirituall light you meane the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ he had no such light before the fall and you in Gen. 1. 7. Col. 8. 10. would make people believe that I contradict those Texts in holding the foresaid point but there is not a word there nor any place else that Adam had at that time any such light Again you say I hold that neither sin in Adam nor any other creature doth procure death Answ. I hold that sin in any man doth not procure death as the efficient cause for that is God who was the only contriver of it both for quality quantity time and place Neither was it the materiall cause formall nor finall as I have made evident in my book called the first Adam reviewed wherein I have answered many objections and have not contradicted Rom. 5. 12. 21. Rom. 6. 23. Again you say no man sins except it be against his light Answ. I hold no mans sins but against the Lord which is light you say this is contrary to Lev. 5. 15. Again you say I hold that such as teach men to sing Psalmes teach men to tell lies Answ. I deny that ever any man in the world heard me speake those words or any words like unto them but instead thereof said that those which set the people a singing such things as they call Psalmes being not taught having no qualification suitable did provoke them to sing lies as for instance O Lord I am not puffed in mind c. and I have behaved my self as the child that weaned is c. and we have not ceased to preach thy Lawes day and night c. I was so far from denying teaching of people to sing Psalmes that I pleaded for a necessity of teaching preceding singing of Psalmes in order thereunto took as much pains to teach the people singing of Psalmes as I did in any other point I delivered in Newcastle So it seems you care not what you speak against me as if you intended not to give an account in this world nor in the world to come Again you say I hold that Christ died for all Answ. I hold that the Scripture sayes he died for all men and for every man and not for Saints only but for the sins of the whole world and for all that live therein and the dead also as 1 Tim. â— 6. Heb. 2. 9. first Epistle John 2. 2. 2 Cor. 5. 15. Rom. 14. 9. and I hold it forth by these arguments 1. If the Gospell is to be preached to all then there is a death of Christ for all But there is a Gospell to be preached to all therefore a death of Christ for all 2. If Christ died for false Teachers which fell to destruction which were and are the worst of all men then Christ died for all men But Christ died for false Teachers which fell to destruction which were and are the worst of men therefore Christ died for all men So I have not excluded his death for you Again you say I hold that infants have no need of Conversion Repentance or Regeneration untill they actually sin Answ. I hold so and these were my Arguments 1. If Infants have neither sins of Omission nor Commission then they have no need of conversion repentance or regeneration But Infants have neither sins of Omission or Commission Therefore 2. That our Lord Jesus Christ never commanded his Disciples to come into such a condition that had need of conversion repentance or regeneration But our Lord Jesus Christ commanded his Disciples to come into the condition of Infants Therefore they have no need of conversion repentance nor regeneration Again you say I hold that no man shall be condemned but for sinning against the New Covenant Answ. That is another of your mistakes for I do hold that by the offence of one condemnation came upon all men according to Rom. 5. 18. and that in Adam all die 1 Cor. 15. 22. and that from there Scriptures this condemnation shall universally be taken off at the resurrection of the just and unjust and after that the Judge of the world shall not condemn any but for sins committed against the Gospell which I call the New-Covenant FINIS Witness the late treasonable Designe of M. Love and his Adherents In the second line of the first Epistle written by L. Col. Mason instead of perfection read persecution
New-castle To conclude Such have been his own and his followers insolent provocations that had not the fear of God possessed the Spirits of his people in this Town there had certainly been raised sad combustions But blessed be God they bare all patiently chusing rather humbly to wait upon God and those in Authority to rectifie such disorders As long as the Noble Col. Fairfax abode in this Garrison he through his Pious care and prudence kept all in quiet and Peace but after his departure Lieut. Col. Mason commanding in chief hath not only permitted this Deluder to Act his part but hath by all means and ways authorized and incouraged him to do what he hath done A Catalogue of such Points as Capt. Everard holds forth THat Election from Eternity hath no ground from Scripture Contrary to Eph. 1. 4 5. Rom. 8. 29 30. That such as say most part of the world go to ruine make the Justice of God a great Monster Contrary to Mat. 7. 13 14. 22. 14. That Adam's posterity were not guilty of Adam's sin Contrary to Rom. 5. 12. That Infants draw no Natural corruption from Adam Contrary to Rom. 5. 12. Psal. 51. 5. Isa. 48. 8. That Adam had no spiritual light Contrary to Gen. 1. 27. Col. 3. 10. That sin neither in Adam nor any other creature doth procure death Contrary to Rom. 5. 12 21. Rom. 6. 23. That no man sins except it be against his light Contrary to Psal. 19. 21. And Sacrifices for sins of Ignorance Lev. 5. 15. That such as teach men to sing Psalmes teach men to tell lies Contrary to Col. 3. 10. Eph. 5. 19. Psal. 100. That Christ dyed for every man Contrary to John 10. 15. That men under the Gospel have fallen from true faith Contrary to 1 Pet. 1. 4. John 10. 27 28 29. That God doth afford every man sufficient meanes or grace to believe and be saved if they will improve them and that eternal llfe doth only depend upon the improvement of them Contrary to Acts 16. 6 7. Rom. 9. 16. Eph. 2. 8. That Infants belong unto the Kingdom of Heaven and they need no repentance regeneration and conversion till they do actually sin Contrary to Job 15. 4. John 3. 6 7. That none are condemned but for sin against the New Covenant Contrary to Rom. 2. 12. EVERARDS ANSWER To an envious Letter sent to the Lord General CROMWEL by seven men who would be accounted Ministers of the Gopel living in and near Newcastle upon Tyne Whose Naems are hereunder written IN the first twelve lines they speak such Truth that no man acknowledging the Scriptures to be the Word of God can deny viz. That there is not any thing more discovered and reproved then false Teachers with sutable Titles as Deceivers bringers in of Damnable Heresie c. Such an Authority of Discovering and Reproving had the Apostles and did improve it though oftentimes by the potencie of ill affected Governors and people they were many times trampled under feet by those proud malicious spirits that is to say Persecuters Doubtless the Apostles would have been thankful to God to enjoy those Priviledges without molestation but you have this priviledge to call them which you judge to be deceivers Men of corrupt minds Sowers of Tares â—educing spirits c. and what would you have more Because you desire my Lord Generall to improve his interest in the high Court you say to restrain such men as I am but what restraint you would have to please you I know not Would you have me silenc'd whipt gagg'd my ears slit banished or hanged Oh! Would you invite our noble Senators to tyranny by exercising their humane authority to fulfill your corrupt lusts would you have a humane power exercised in divine things to punish men for differing in exposition of Scripture texts then must you acknowledge them to have infallibility of spirit to judg of error in doctrine and punishment in relation to quality quantity time and place May not I say to you as the Lord our righteousnesse once did You know not what spirit you are of yet you may be known by your actions 2. Again you cry out against me as a soul-deceiver and I frequently preach that all that God gave his Son for or his Son died for are elected and cannot be deceived by any man if so none of them can be deceived then I am sure none of those that had no probability to be saved could be deceived unlesse to bring them to eternall life was a deceit which by your saying Robert Everard nor any other man can do 3. Again you say I crept into Newcastle among your flocks Answ. I rid into your town called Newcastle and abode there about foure moneths preaching the Word of God as it is written in the Scripture three or foure times a week paying every man for all such things as I had use for as Mr. Rybbon and Mrs. Iohnson can speak where I lodged and dieted Those people were so far of my judgment that they love to speak the truth and not envious to any such a creeper into Newcastle was I. I did not demand 100. l. 200. l. or 300. l. a yeare of them such a creeper was not I. 4. You say that Lievtenant-Colonell Mason and Capt. Pym were upholders of me to seduce the people and garrison of Newcastle and as you alledge to act my part by authority which is answered in the Epistle to the Reader So that you may be ashamed for slandering such civill just and faithfull men 5. Again you tell the L. Generall that corrupt doctrines take sooner run faster and proceed farther then the truth can do Answ. Who told you so it was Gods saying to Adam What did you eat of the forbidden fruit I tell you what doctrine runs swift and far and takes quick namely baptizing of infants which comes by the proclamation of man and the doctrine of Tithes as a forced maintenance which has spread it self all Christendome over If you mean these doctrines or the like I confesse they are corrupt but that they go farther then the truth can do that I deny for they are beleaguered round about with truth and the people like valiant souldiers are ready to spring their mines 4. And whereas you say I vent errors pleasing to the flesh which foresaid doctrines have for a long time satisfied your fleshly minds 5. Also you say one dram of deadly poyson kills more then the best medicines can cure And you say it is corrupt doctrine consisting of such errors as I hold Somthing is the matter that you do not use the best medicines it seems it is your judgments they will do no good and therfore you make use of the worst having no experience of drawing people from the errors of their wayes 6. Again you say you humbly conceive that as Popery was heretofore so Arminianism and Socinianism are like to be the plagues of this poor Nation even that cursed