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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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utramque_fw-la attingimus_fw-la por_fw-mi fidem_fw-la and_o say_v we_o attain_v to_o both_o sort_n of_o righteousness_n by_o faith_n then_o he_o put_v the_o question_n upon_o which_o of_o these_o righteousness_n we_o ought_v to_o rely_v or_o hold_v ourselves_o justify_v before_o god_n and_o account_v righteous_a he_o conclude_v ibid._n justitiâ_fw-la christi_fw-la nobis_fw-la donatâ_fw-la non_fw-la autem_fw-la sanctitate_fw-la &_o gratiâ_fw-la nobis_fw-la inhaerente_fw-la ibid._n it_o must_v be_v upon_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n give_v we_o not_o upon_o the_o sanctity_n or_o grace_n inherent_a in_o we_o and_o add_v the_o reason_n peccemus_fw-la inchoata_fw-la &_o imperfecta_fw-la quae_fw-la tueri_fw-la nos_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quin_fw-la in_o multis_fw-la offendamus_fw-la &_o assidue_fw-la peccemus_fw-la because_o that_o which_o be_v in_o we_o be_v but_o inchoate_n and_o imperfect_a which_o can_v keep_v we_o from_o offend_v often_o offendit_fw-la idcircò_fw-la in_o conspectu_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la ob_fw-la hanc_fw-la est_fw-la vera_fw-la &_o perfecia_fw-la justitia_fw-la quaeomnino_fw-la placet_fw-la oculis_fw-la dei_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la deum_fw-la offendit_fw-la and_o sin_v daily_o and_o therefore_o have_v daily_o need_v to_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n therefore_o we_o can_v be_v account_v just_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o this_o our_o righteousness_n but_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n give_v to_o we_o be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o perfect_a righteousness_n which_o be_v altogether_o please_v in_o the_o eye_n of_o god_n and_o in_o which_o there_o be_v nothing_o that_o offend_v he_o unto_o this_o the_o same_o author_n apply_v phil._n 3.9_o not_o have_v my_o own_o righteousness_n but_o the_o righteousness_n which_o be_v through_o faith_n he_o give_v we_o withal_o a_o good_a lesson_n it_o be_v find_v by_o experience_n say_v he_o that_o holy_a man_n ibid._n man_n quantò_fw-la magis_fw-la in_o sanclitate_fw-la proficiunt_fw-la tanto_fw-la minùs_fw-la sibi_fw-la placere_fw-la &_o tanto_fw-la magìs_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la se_fw-la indigere_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o justitia_fw-la christi_fw-la sibi_fw-la donata_fw-la ideóque_fw-la se_fw-la relinquunt_fw-la &_o soli_fw-la christo_fw-la incumbunt_fw-la contar._n ibid._n the_o more_o they_o advance_v in_o sanctity_n the_o less_o be_v they_o please_v to_o themselves_o and_o the_o more_o do_v they_o understand_v how_o they_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o righteousness_n give_v unto_o they_o therefore_o they_o forsake_v themselves_o and_o rely_v upon_o christ_n only_o he_o answer_v also_o to_o some_o place_n of_o scripture_n object_v as_o that_o the_o psalmist_n say_v often_o judge_v i_o o_o lord_n according_a to_o my_o righteousness_n and_o the_o lord_n reward_v i_o according_a to_o my_o righteousness_n for_o i_o have_v keep_v the_o way_n of_o the_o lord_n ps_n 18.20_o 21._o if_o david_n have_v say_v and_o mean_v this_o so_o deo_fw-la it_o à_fw-la ut_fw-la putasset_fw-la se_fw-la propterea_fw-la justificatum_fw-la esse_fw-la coram_fw-la deo_fw-la as_o to_o think_v himself_o therefore_o justify_v before_o god_n he_o have_v speak_v as_o arrogant_o as_o the_o pharisee_fw-mi luc._n mendacia_fw-la scd_v &_o essent_fw-la mera_fw-fr mendacia_fw-la 18._o nay_o he_o have_v speak_v mere_a lie_n all_o this_o be_v speak_v in_o regard_n of_o his_o enemy_n especial_o saul_n and_o absalon_n of_o who_o he_o have_v deserve_v well_o and_o not_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o righteousness_n before_o god_n also_o to_o that_o place_n of_o deut._n 6.25_o it_o shall_v be_v our_o righteousness_n if_o we_o observe_v all_o these_o commandment_n he_o answer_v christo_fw-la answer_v justitia_fw-la nostra_fw-la legalis_fw-la est_fw-la custedire_fw-la omni●_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la servet_fw-la omne_fw-la praecepta_fw-la legis_fw-la ergò_fw-la sub_fw-la maledicto_fw-la omnes_fw-la ideoque_fw-la omnes_fw-la indigemus_fw-la christo_fw-la our_o legal_a righteousness_n be_v to_o observe_v all_o but_o because_o there_o be_v none_o that_o keep_v all_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o all_o lie_n under_o the_o curse_n or_o condemnation_n and_o all_o stand_v in_o need_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o righteousness_n thus_o that_o cardinal_n be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o protestant_a doctrine_n in_o this_o point_n or_o question_n between_o impute_a and_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n acknowledge_v the_o imperfection_n of_o the_o inhaerent_a as_o to_o its_o effect_n of_o justify_v and_o that_o the_o impute_a be_v to_o be_v rely_v on_o we_o may_v to_o these_o add_v what_o the_o colen_n divine_v in_o their_o antididagma_n justific_n antidida_fw-la gma_fw-la tit._n justific_n or_o book_n oppose_v to_o the_o reformation_n endeavour_v by_o hermannus_n the_o archbishop_n do_v acknowledge_v speak_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o justification_n apprehenditur_fw-la nobis_fw-la imputatur_fw-la ad_fw-la justitiam_fw-la dum_fw-la fide_fw-la apprehenditur_fw-la that_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v apprehend_v by_o faith_n be_v impute_v to_o we_o for_o righteousness_n and_o more_o to_o like_a purpose_n hitherto_o we_o have_v show_v by_o the_o forego_n witness_n that_o this_o romish_a doctrine_n of_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n have_v not_o be_v catholic_n within_o that_o church_n not_o so_o general_o hold_v among_o themselves_o as_o they_o pretend_v it_o be_v now_o time_n to_o look_v high_o and_o briesy_o examine_v what_o they_o bring_v from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n to_o make_v it_o seem_v according_a to_o vincentius_n rule_n catholic_n point_n romanist_n destiture_n of_o scripture_n in_o this_o point_n and_o by_o this_o trial_n it_o will_v still_o appear_v less_o worthy_a of_o that_o name_n the_o cardinal_n bring_v 3._o bring_v bell._n l._n 2._o the_o justif_a c._n 3._o eight_o place_n of_o scripture_n for_o justification_n by_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n which_o may_v all_o be_v answer_v with_o this_o one_o exception_n they_o may_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v a_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n but_o not_o that_o there_o be_v justification_n by_o it_o to_o instance_n in_o the_o chief_a of_o they_o his_o first_o place_n be_v rom._n 5.19_o make_v sinner_n real_o inhaerent_o we_o grant_v it_o true_a and_o answerable_o make_v righteous_a by_o christ_n but_o be_v we_o make_v sinner_n only_o so_o by_o adam_n disobedience_n be_v we_o not_o also_o make_v so_o by_o imputation_n the_o cardinal_n himself_o acknowledge_v it_o itaque_fw-la bell._n the_o a●_n miss_v g●a_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 17._o sect_n itaque_fw-la and_o then_o be_v we_o not_o also_o make_v righteous_a by_o imputation_n of_o the_o second_o adam_n obedience_n the_o cardinal_n as_o we_o see_v 4._o see_v nu._n 4._o above_o in_o three_o place_n acknowledge_v the_o imputation_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o merit_n for_o free_v we_o from_o the_o offence_n of_o sin_n and_o and_o the_o guilt_n of_o eternal_a death_n and_o therefore_o from_o that_o condemnation_n under_o which_o we_o be_v by_o the_o first_o adam_n disobedience_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o condemnation_n the_o apostle_n here_o vers_n 18._o set_v against_o justification_n and_o so_o in_o this_o antithesis_fw-la vers_fw-la 19_o between_o make_v sixner_n and_o make_v righteous_a must_n first_o stand_v good_a in_o regard_n of_o condemnation_n and_o justification_n take_v proper_o then_o between_o the_o inhaerent_a depravation_n and_o the_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n take_v what_o the_o ancient_a commentator_n here_o say_v be_v mean_v by_o make_v sinner_n 〈◊〉_d chrys_n in_o locum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n and_o after_o he_o occumenius_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi to_o the_o like_a purpose_n expound_v it_o make_v subject_a to_o punishment_n and_o condemn_v to_o death_n that_o be_v the_o first_o sense_n of_o make_v sinner_n and_o unto_o that_o be_v justification_n in_o the_o first_o and_o proper_a sense_n oppose_v the_o cardinal_n second_o testimony_n be_v rom._n suprá_fw-fr bel._n quo_fw-la suprá_fw-fr 3.24_o here_o he_o will_v find_v all_o the_o cause_n of_o justification_n and_o in_o the_o word_n grace_v take_v for_o inherent_a righteousness_n he_o fix_v the_o formal_a cause_n gratis_o of_o grace_n and_o gratis_o that_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o gift_n of_o grace_n inhaerent_a and_o not_o for_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n he_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n gratis_o free_o which_o be_v enough_o to_o set_v out_o the_o favour_n of_o god_n and_o his_o love_n to_o mankind_n but_o the_o cardinal_n here_o also_o be_v impertinent_a and_o his_o argument_n inconsequent_a for_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gratis_o free_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o put_v here_o to_o set_v forth_o the_o true_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n viz._n 〈◊〉_d viz._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n gracious_a favour_n so_o much_o as_o to_o exclude_v the_o false_a cause_n viz._n any_o cause_n desert_n motive_n on_o man_n part_n free_o that_o be_v without_o any_o price_n pay_v by_o we_o without_o any_o cause_n give_v by_o we_o or_o any_o worth_n in_o we_o thus_o gratis_o be_v take_v in_o scripture_n and_o though_o it_o consequent_o
first_o adam_n that_o be_v that_o there_o be_v a_o new_a righteousness_n also_o put_v in_o we_o in_o our_o justification_n which_o we_o every_o where_n acknowledge_v and_o be_v that_o which_o theoph._n say_a above_o justificans_fw-la sanctificat_fw-la when_o he_o justify_v he_o sanctify_v two_o other_o place_n he_o bring_v to_o prove_v the_o inhaerent_a to_o be_v our_o true_a righteousness_n which_o we_o grant_v in_o its_o order_n and_o measure_n but_o not_o to_o the_o exclude_v of_o the_o impute_a from_o its_o due_a order_n and_o place_n the_o 8._o the_o bell._n l._n 2._o c._n 8._o cardinal_n tell_v we_o that_o st._n aug._n in_o his_o book_n of_o nature_n and_o grace_n ch_n 38._o teach_v that_o charity_n infuse_v into_o our_o heart_n be_v our_o true_a righteousness_n this_o be_v the_o cardinal_n collection_n he_o do_v not_o give_v we_o the_o very_a word_n of_o that_o father_n we_o must_v therefore_o know_v that_o book_n be_v write_v against_o the_o pelagian_o against_o who_o it_o be_v his_o usual_a work_n to_o assert_v the_o true_a grace_n of_o god_n give_v we_o and_o that_o all_o the_o good_a we_o have_v or_o do_v be_v from_o god_n and_o that_o all_o the_o righteousness_n which_o be_v in_o we_o though_o true_a yet_o imperfect_a and_o this_o be_v the_o very_a purpose_n of_o that_o place_n he_o show_v there_o that_o abel_n and_o many_o other_o in_o scripture_n be_v just_a yet_o be_v not_o without_o sin_n and_o 38._o justi_n fuerunt_fw-la &_o sine_fw-la peccato_fw-la non_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la qua_fw-la una_fw-la verè_fw-la iustùs_fw-la est_fw-la quicunque_fw-la iustùs_fw-la est_fw-la adhuc_fw-la erat_fw-la quo_fw-la posset_n &_o deberet_fw-la augeri_fw-la quicquid●minus_fw-la erat_fw-la ex_fw-la vitio_fw-la erat_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr na_fw-fr &_o gra_fw-mi c._n 38._o if_o in_o abel_n the_o just_a there_o be_v the_o love_n of_o god_n by_o which_o only_o every_o one_o be_v just_a that_o be_v just_a that_o be_v without_o which_o there_o be_v no_o true_a inhaerent_a or_o actual_a righteousness_n yet_o be_v it_o such_o as_o might_n and_o aught_o to_o be_v increase_v and_o whatsoever_o be_v less_o than_o it_o ought_v be_v to_o be_v reckon_v as_o of_o vice_n or_o faulty_a it_o be_v plain_a he_o do_v not_o mean_v the_o righteousness_n of_o justification_n or_o that_o those_o just_a man_n be_v justify_v by_o that_o righteousness_n he_o there_o speak_v of_o which_o will_v farther_o appear_v by_o the_o next_o place_n out_o of_o st._n aug._n etc._n aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 19_o c._n 27._o hic_fw-la itaque_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la quoque_fw-la justitia_fw-la est_fw-la siobedienti_fw-la deus_fw-la homini_fw-la etc._n etc._n book_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n the_o cardinal_n draw_v this_o testimony_n here_o therefore_o it_o be_v righteousness_n in_o every_o one_o that_o god_n shall_v rule_v over_o man_n obey_v he_o the_o mind_n over_o the_o body_n and_o reason_n over_o vice_n in_o this_o definition_n say_v the_o suprá_fw-fr the_o bel._n ubi_fw-la suprá_fw-fr cardinal_n the_o impute_a righteousness_n of_o christ_n have_v no_o place_n but_o only_o inhaerent_a righteousness_n definition_n of_o what_o he_o can_v not_o say_v of_o justification_n for_o that_o father_n speak_v not_o of_o it_o in_o that_o place_n and_o so_o the_o cardinal_n be_v impertinent_a but_o put_v the_o case_n that_o any_o be_v to_o give_v a_o definition_n of_o justification_n shall_v the_o impute_a righteousness_n of_o christ_n have_v no_o place_n in_o it_o this_o be_v that_o they_o strive_v for_o and_o think_v they_o allow_v it_o enough_o if_o they_o grant_v that_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o righteousness_n we_o have_v grace_n &_o righteousness_n give_v we_o by_o which_o we_o be_v justify_v and_o have_v our_o sin_n purge_v out_o which_o with_o they_o be_v remission_n and_o our_o person_n make_v acceptable_a we_o note_v this_o vasque_n this_o nu._n 4._o ex_fw-la vasque_n above_o and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o keep_v the_o gap_n from_o close_v which_o may_v be_v reasonable_o make_v up_o if_o they_o will_v give_v the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n its_o due_a for_o our_o justification_n as_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o give_v inhaerent_a grace_n and_o righteousness_n its_o due_a both_o for_o the_o connexion_n it_o have_v with_o our_o justification_n and_o for_o the_o necessity_n of_o it_o to_o our_o sanctification_n but_o to_o return_v there_o be_v enough_o in_o that_o chap._n to_o show_v how_o little_a this_o serve_v to_o the_o cardinal_n purpose_n the_o whole_a place_n speak_v of_o actual_a righteousness_n and_o that_o be_v not_o for_o his_o purpose_n and_o the_o two_o first_o word_n here_o therefore_o show_v the_o dependence_n of_o this_o upon_o what_o go_v before_o and_o thereby_o the_o imperfection_n of_o our_o righteousness_n here_o in_o this_o life_n and_o that_o also_o be_v not_o to_o the_o cardinal_n purpose_n that_o which_o go_v before_o run_v thus_o our_o righteousness_n though_o it_o be_v true_a nobis_fw-la aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 19_o c._n 27._o nostra_fw-la justitia_fw-la quamvis_fw-la vera_fw-la sit_fw-la propter_fw-la very_fw-la boni_fw-la finem_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la refertur_fw-la tanta_fw-la tamen_fw-la est_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la vita_fw-la ut_fw-la potiùs_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la remissione_n construe_v quam_fw-la perfectione_n virtutum_fw-la testis_fw-la est_fw-la oratio_fw-la totius_fw-la civitatis_fw-la dei_fw-la per_fw-la omne_fw-la membra_fw-la sva_fw-la clamat_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la dimitte_n nobis_fw-la as_o to_o the_o end_n of_o that_o true_a good_a to_o which_o it_o refer_v or_o tend_v yet_o be_v it_o such_o in_o this_o life_n that_o it_o rather_o stand_v in_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n then_o in_o the_o perfection_n of_o virtue_n which_o show_v the_o imperfeon_n as_o i_o say_v of_o any_o righteousness_n in_o we_o as_o need_v continual_o in_o this_o life_n the_o mercy_n of_o god_n for_o pardon_n and_o therefore_o unable_a to_o justify_v as_o witness_v and_o proof_n of_o this_o st._n aug._n add_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o whole_a city_n of_o god_n so_o journ_v upon_o earth_n witness_v this_o for_o she_o cry_v in_o all_o her_o member_n unto_o god_n lord_n forgive_v we_o our_o debt_n and_o give_v a_o reason_n from_o this_o mortal_a condition_n and_o corruptible_a body_n oratio_fw-la body_n quod_fw-la aggravat_fw-la animam_fw-la non_fw-la perfect_v ratio_fw-la vitiis_fw-la imperat_fw-la ideo_fw-la necessaria_fw-la est_fw-la justis_fw-la talis_fw-la oratio_fw-la which_o press_v down_o the_o soul_n so_o that_o reason_n do_v not_o perfect_o rule_v over_o vice_n therefore_o be_v such_o prayer_n necessary_a for_o just_a person_n the_o cardinal_n reply_v to_o the_o first_o part_n that_o man_n righteousness_n consist_v in_o both_o that_o be_v in_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o perfection_n of_o virtue_n which_o be_v true_a of_o the_o righteousness_n st._n aug._n speak_v of_o viz._n the_o actual_a righteousness_n of_o man_n in_o this_o life_n for_o such_o be_v the_o righteousness_n of_o just_a or_o justify_v man_n of_o who_o the_o father_n speak_v here_o but_o they_o have_v another_o kind_n of_o righteousness_n by_o which_o they_o be_v first_o justify_v suprá_fw-fr sic_fw-la orare_fw-la justos_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la indigere_fw-la indulgentia_fw-la ventalium_fw-la delictorum_fw-la bel._n ubi_fw-la suprá_fw-fr to_o the_o latter_a part_n he_o reply_v that_o just_a person_n pray_v so_o as_o st._n aug._n say_v they_o do_v and_o by_o this_o show_n they_o need_v indulgence_n of_o their_o venial_a sin_n but_o if_o only_a need_n remission_n of_o such_o which_o may_v so_o easy_o be_v satisfy_v for_o and_o do_v away_o st._n aug._n have_v not_o say_v potius_fw-la in_o remissione_n rather_o in_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n experience_n also_o tell_v we_o that_o just_a man_n commit_v great_a sin_n and_o need_v indulgence_n or_o remission_n of_o they_o too_o and_o see_v how_o heedless_o contrary_a the_o cardinal_n be_v to_o himself_o in_o so_o few_o line_n he_o have_v say_v man_n righteousness_n stand_v in_o both_o these_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o perfection_n of_o virtue_n and_o mean_v it_o of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o justification_n in_o which_o he_o will_v grant_v the_o remission_n of_o all_o sin_n and_o of_o eternal_a death_n due_a to_o they_o here_o present_o he_o restrain_v remission_n to_o the_o indulgence_n of_o venial_a sin_n i_o will_v but_o add_v two_o other_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o the_o same_o father_n render_v the_o word_n justify_v father_n the_o word_n justify_v sometime_o improper_o take_v by_o the_o father_n by_o make_v just_a or_o righteous_a as_o when_o he_o say_v who_o have_v make_v righteousness_n in_o man_n but_o he_o that_o justifi_v the_o ungodly_a that_o be_v of_o a_o ungodly_a man_n by_o his_o grace_n make_v a_o just_a and_o righteous_a man_n justum_fw-la aug._n in_o ps_n ps_n 118._o conc_fw-fr 26._o qui_fw-la justificat_fw-la impium_fw-la i._n e._n per_fw-la gratiam_fw-la svam_fw-la ex_fw-la impio_fw-la facit_fw-la justum_fw-la and_o to_o the_o like_a purpose_n he_o speak_v upon_o
apostle_n purposely_o make_v in_o say_v death_n be_v the_o wage_n or_o stipend_n of_o sin_n but_o not_o say_v so_o of_o life_n eternal_a there_o be_v another_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o st._n august_n that_o make_v a_o great_a noise_n of_o justice_n in_o give_v the_o reward_n justitiae_fw-la aug._n the_o nat_n &_o gra_fw-mi c._n 2._o non_fw-fr est_fw-fr injustus_fw-la deus_fw-la ut_fw-la justos_fw-la fraudet_fw-la mercede_fw-la justitiae_fw-la god_n be_v not_o unjust_a say_v he_o that_o he_o shall_v defraud_v or_o disappoint_v the_o just_a of_o the_o reward_n of_o their_o justice_n or_o righteousness_n but_o upon_o what_o respect_n god_n be_v say_v to_o be_v just_o in_o reward_v be_v show_v 3._o show_v nu._n 3._o above_o in_o answer_n to_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o speak_v god_n justice_n in_o that_o particular_a and_o the_o same_o answer_n may_v serve_v all_o those_o testimony_n which_o the_o cardinal_n or_o other_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o father_n say_v in_o some_o loftiness_n of_o language_n that_o man_n by_o good_a deed_n may_v make_v god_n his_o debtor_n the_o wiseman_n in_o effect_n say_v so_o prov._n 19.17_o and_o that_o proverbial_a way_n of_o speech_n may_v bear_v it_o that_o say_v of_o st._n aug._n which_o in_o this_o controversy_n of_o merit_n truth_n have_v force_v the_o cardinal_n thrice_o to_o mention_v will_v clear_o unfold_v how_o god_n become_v and_o may_v be_v call_v man_n debtor_n and_o answer_v all_o plea_n of_o merit_n make_v from_o such_o speech_n of_o the_o father_n the_o lord_n say_v he_o promittendo_fw-la aug._n ps_n 83._o debitorem_fw-la dominus_fw-la ipse_fw-la se_fw-la secit_fw-la non_fw-la accipiendo_fw-la sed_fw-la promittendo_fw-la make_v himself_o a_o debtor_n and_o how_o be_v that_o not_o by_o receive_v from_o we_o but_o promise_v unto_o we_o to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v what_o the_o same_o father_n say_v elsewhere_o 4._o elsewhere_o aug._n l._n 1._o confess_v c._n 4._o o_o thou_o that_o pay_v debt_n or_o render_v what_o be_v due_a yet_o owe_v nothing_o to_o any_o man_n qui_fw-la reddis_fw-la debita_fw-la nulli_fw-la debes_fw-la where_o debita_fw-la debt_n be_v promissa_fw-la his_o promise_n and_o promisisti_fw-la and_o aug._n serm_n 16._o de_fw-la verb._n apost_n red_a quia_fw-la accepisti_fw-la sed●edde_n quia_fw-la promisisti_fw-la elsewhere_o we_o do_v not_o say_v to_o god_n render_v because_o thou_o have_v receive_v but_o render_v because_o thou_o have_v promise_v the_o cardinal_n pretend_v he_o can_v easy_o answer_v all_o this_o and_o reply_n thus_o it_o be_v say_v so_o by_o st._n jussisti_fw-la bel._n l._n 5._o the_o justif_a c._n 18._o sect_n sed_fw-la facilis_fw-la absolutè_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la promissione_n &_o dono_fw-la svo_fw-la quod_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la sola_fw-la promissione_n sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la opere_fw-la nostro_fw-la deus_fw-la efficiatur_fw-la debtor_n docet_fw-la aug._n cum_fw-la subjungit_fw-la red_a quod_fw-la promisisti_fw-la quia_fw-la fecimus_fw-la quod_fw-la jussisti_fw-la aug._n because_o god_n owe_v nothing_o to_o any_o man_n absolute_o but_o only_o by_o his_o promise_n and_o his_o own_o bounty_n and_o gift_n this_o be_v fair_a and_o true_a but_o nothing_o to_o his_o advantage_n and_o therefore_o not_o many_o line_n after_o he_o sup_v it_o up_o again_o with_o the_o same_o breath_n say_v nevertheless_o that_o god_n be_v make_v our_o debtor_n not_o only_o by_o his_o promise_n but_o by_o our_o work_n too_o st._n aug._n teach_v when_o he_o subjoin_v we_o may_v say_v render_v what_o thou_o have_v promise_v for_o we_o have_v do_v what_o thou_o command_v if_o this_o may_v be_v say_v to_o god_n almighty_a yet_o with_o such_o caution_n that_o it_o can_v as_o bold_a as_o it_o be_v be_v a_o plea_n for_o merit_n for_o it_o must_v be_v say_v with_o respect_n to_o the_o bounty_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n appoint_v such_o a_o reward_n for_o they_o that_o do_v so_o and_o so_o and_o with_o acknowledgement_n of_o his_o freegrace_n help_v we_o to_o do_v so_o wherefore_o it_o follow_v immediate_o in_o st._n apost_n et_fw-la hoc_fw-la tu●fecisti_fw-la qui_fw-la laborantes_fw-la juvisti_fw-la aug._n ser._n 16._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apost_n aug._n which_o the_o cardinal_n think_v good_a to_o omit_v and_o this_o thou_o have_v do_v which_o have_v help_v those_o that_o labour_n or_o strive_v to_o do_v well_o if_o we_o take_v it_o not_o as_o say_v in_o such_o a_o respect_n st._n aug._n himself_o will_v judge_v it_o a_o proud_a and_o presumptuous_a say_n for_o so_o it_o be_v censure_v by_o he_o merit_n against_o the_o plea_n of_o merit_n upon_o ps_n 142._o vers_fw-la 2._o enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n where_o he_o bring_v in_o the_o presumptuous_a justifier_n of_o themselves_o say_v faceres_fw-la say_v aug._n in_o ps_n 142._o jejunavimus_fw-la &_o non_fw-la vidisti_fw-la fecimus_fw-la quod_fw-la jussisti_fw-la quare_fw-la non_fw-la reddis_fw-la quod_fw-la promisesti_fw-la 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by_o the_o labour_n of_o the_o brain_n not_o the_o inspiration_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n st._n aug._n indeed_o sometime_o call_v these_o book_n canonical_a according_a to_o the_o large_a acception_n of_o the_o african_a church_n but_o be_v put_v to_o answer_v a_o argument_n of_o the_o donatist_n ground_v upon_o the_o machab._n the_o machab._n example_n of_o razis_n he_o much_o lessen_v the_o authority_n of_o they_o as_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o book_n of_o the_o law_n and_o psalm_n legatur_fw-la aug._n contra_fw-la gauden_n l._n 2._o c_o 23._o quibus_fw-la dominus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la perhibet_fw-la tanquam_fw-la testibus_fw-la suis_fw-la luc._n 24_o 44._o recepta_fw-la non_fw-la inutiliter_fw-la si_fw-la sobrie_fw-la legatur_fw-la and_o the_o prophet_n to_o which_o say_v he_o our_o lord_n give_v testimony_n as_o to_o his_o witness_n but_o this_o write_n of_o the_o mach._n be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n not_o unprofitable_o if_o it_o be_v read_v sober_o gregory_n bishop_n of_o rome_n cite_v a_o place_n out_o of_o these_o book_n 13._o greg._n moral_a l._n 19_o c._n 13._o excuse_n it_o because_o he_o do_v it_o out_o of_o book_n not_o canonical_a in_o moral_a l._n 19_o c._n 13._o again_o he_o that_o well_o consider_v the_o place_n will_v easy_o distinguish_v between_o the_o fact_n of_o judas_n and_o the_o mistake_a collection_n or_o misapplication_n of_o the_o writer_n of_o that_o book_n judas_n no_o doubt_n do_v pious_o for_o he_o see_v their_o sin_n or_o sacrilege_n as_o the_o cause_n why_o they_o be_v slay_v vers_fw-la 40._o fall_v to_o his_o devotion_n pray_v and_o send_v a_o sin-offering_n to_o jerusalem_n v._o 42.43_o not_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o they_o that_o die_v that_o be_v the_o mistake_n of_o this_o writer_n but_o upon_o occasion_n of_o their_o sin_n to_o divert_v the_o wrath_n from_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o army_n as_o joshua_n think_v himself_o concern_v upon_o the_o sin_n of_o achan_n josh_n 7.10_o also_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o they_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n the_o thing_n they_o have_v steal_v be_v find_v about_o they_o which_o argue_v both_o the_o incogitancy_n of_o this_o writer_n who_o vers_fw-la 45._o suppose_n they_o die_v godly_a and_o the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o romanist_n who_o suppose_v they_o in_o purgatory_n whither_o they_o send_v none_o that_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n but_o only_o justify_v person_n they_o also_o urge_v 2_o tim._n 1.18_o for_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a whereas_o that_o prayer_n for_o onesiphorus_n suppose_v he_o dead_a at_o that_o time_n have_v but_o reference_n to_o the_o mercy_n which_o shall_v be_v impart_v at_o the_o last_o day_n to_o which_o also_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v much_o refer_v and_o make_v nothing_o for_o purgatory_n and_o therefore_o all_o the_o testimony_n they_o bring_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n or_o council_n for_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a be_v impertinent_a as_o to_o the_o prove_v of_o a_o purgatory_n there_o be_v other_o reason_n for_o such_o pray_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v a_o wilful_a pervert_n it_o be_v of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n to_o draw_v it_o off_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v do_v from_o the_o first_o intent_n and_o purpose_n to_o fasten_v it_o upon_o their_o conceit_n of_o purgatory_n pain_n we_o shall_v see_v this_o better_a by_o the_o trial_n follow_v the_o ancient_n when_o they_o set_v themselves_o to_o give_v reason_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a prayer_n other_o purpose_n of_o such_o prayer_n give_v not_o this_o of_o purgatory_n which_o have_v be_v most_o obvious_a and_o most_o fit_a to_o stop_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o adversary_n have_v it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n but_o other_o reason_n they_o allege_v differ_v from_o or_o inconsistent_a with_o purgatory_n this_o appear_v by_o epiphanius_n who_o be_v put_v to_o it_o by_o aerius_n question_v the_o prayer_n make_v in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o by_o dionysius_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n who_o put_v himself_o to_o answer_v the_o like_a question_n in_o both_o of_o they_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o church_n by_o those_o prayer_n be_v main_o this_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o the_o confirm_v of_o their_o hope_n see_v first_o what_o epiphanius_n say_v he_o call_v this_o practice_n a_o seemly_a preach_n or_o publish_v 〈◊〉_d epiph._n har._n 75._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o what_o of_o the_o happy_a estate_n and_o rest_n of_o those_o that_o die_v in_o christ_n whereby_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o live_n be_v confirm_v and_o their_o hope_n raise_v what_o more_o profitable_a say_v he_o then_o that_o the_o live_a shall_v believe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o that_o be_v depart_v be_v in_o be_v and_o do_v live_v with_o the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o again_o there_o be_v hope_n say_v he_o to_o they_o while_o they_o pray_v for_o their_o brethren_n as_o now_o in_o their_o peregrination_n or_o absence_n insinuate_v that_o albeit_o they_o be_v depart_v or_o go_v from_o they_o yet_o they_o shall_v meet_v again_o also_o to_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o be_v more_o perfect_a which_o must_v refer_v to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o next_o life_n for_o say_v he_o while_o we_o be_v here_o in_o the_o world_n we_o offend_v often_o and_o last_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o all_o man_n do_v offend_v and_o slip_v in_o this_o life_n more_o or_o less_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o we_o pray_v for_o all_o even_a for_o patriarch_n etc._n etc._n to_o separate_v christ_n from_o all_o other_o for_o he_o be_v without_o sin_n altogether_o be_v not_o to_o be_v pray_v for_o but_o to_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o worship_v these_o be_v all_o the_o reason_n he_o give_v of_o their_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a which_o we_o see_v do_v respect_n and_o provide_v for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o live_n and_o do_v not_o imply_v any_o such_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a in_o pain_n and_o grief_n as_o purgatory_n suppose_v but_o the_o contrary_a now_o see_v we_o what_o the_o romanist_n endeavour_v to_o pick_v out_o of_o word_n because_o he_o say_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v profitable_a ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiph._n ibid._n although_o it_o cut_v not_o off_o sin_n all_o or_o whole_o they_o infer_v thence_o therefore_o it_o do_v cut_v off_o sin_n in_o part_n we_o answer_v as_o epiphanius_n do_v not_o say_v that_o so_o neither_o can_v he_o mean_v it_o for_o first_o we_o must_v suppose_v he_o will_v not_o answer_v impertinent_o to_o aerius_n who_o object_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n altogether_o profit_v the_o dead_a then_o let_v no_o man_n live_v godly_a etc._n etc._n therefore_o epiphanius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d must_v answer_v to_o aerius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o must_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o sin_n of_o such_o person_n as_o aerius_n speak_v of_o such_o as_o have_v no_o care_n of_o their_o life_n but_o leave_v it_o to_o their_o live_a friend_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o after_o death_n now_o if_o epiphanius_n shall_v mean_v that_o prayer_n do_v in_o part_n cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n then_o must_v he_o speak_v according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n of_o mitigate_a the_o pain_n of_o the_o damn_a by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n with_o which_o conceit_n some_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v taint_v as_o we_o shall_v see_v below_o but_o this_o will_v be_v nothing_o to_o purgatory_n second_o if_o his_o meaning_n have_v be_v as_o the_o romanist_n will_v have_v it_o that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o such_o man_n sin_n but_o that_o there_o be_v another_o sort_n of_o sinner_n
before_o they_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o they_o move_v and_o make_v god_n propitious_a while_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v here_o again_o the_o romanist_n triumph_n as_o if_o st._n chrysost_o make_v their_o pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n a_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n whereas_o he_o plain_o restrain_v this_o ordinance_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o above_o he_o do_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o spirit_n to_o that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n and_o that_o concern_v only_o they_o who_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n nothing_o of_o soul_n in_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v mention_v in_o the_o ancient_a liturgy_n or_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o for_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o prayer_n for_o such_o sinner_n as_o he_o describe_v in_o all_o the_o forementioned_a place_n such_o as_o be_v go_v to_o endless_a pain_n yet_o may_v receive_v as_o he_o think_v a_o little_a case_n thereby_o we_o must_v reckon_v it_o as_o a_o private_a opinion_n and_o misapplication_n of_o that_o practice_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v to_o acknowledge_v so_o much_o himself_o for_o in_o his_o forementioned_a hom._n 61._o in_o jo._n he_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o relation_n to_o those_o his_o exhortation_n for_o such_o prayer_n and_o offering_n these_o thing_n i_o speak_v not_o as_o one_o give_v precept_n or_o set_v a_o law_n but_o as_o one_o allow_v and_o condescend_v to_o the_o affection_n and_o frailty_n of_o man_n the_o romanist_n here_o reply_v that_o st._n chrysost_o and_o other_o seem_v to_o urge_v prayer_n for_o all_o because_o they_o know_v not_o who_o die_v in_o the_o state_n of_o repentance_n and_o so_o they_o pray_v for_o all_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o hold_v those_o prayer_n appliable_a to_o and_o available_a for_o only_o those_o that_o die_v in_o that_o state_n and_o go_v to_o purgatory_n pain_n this_o be_v a_o mere_a shift_n for_o st._n chrysost_o do_v plain_o suppose_v that_o those_o sinner_n he_o speak_v of_o die_v in_o their_o sin_n such_o 〈◊〉_d chrys_n hom_n 61._o in_o lo._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o god_n have_v see_v they_o will_v have_v change_v he_o will_v not_o have_v cut_v they_o off_o before_o their_o repentance_n as_o we_o have_v it_o above_o such_o as_o he_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v thus_o of_o of_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o rejoice_v but_o only_o because_o the_o course_n of_o his_o wicked_a life_n be_v cut_v off_o yet_o for_o such_o he_o exhort_v to_o pray_v and_o offer_v and_o help_v he_o as_o they_o can_v and_o indeed_o the_o reason_n of_o this_o extend_v the_o benefit_n of_o prayer_n to_o such_o sinner_n be_v not_o any_o supposal_n of_o purgatory_n but_o of_o some_o mitigate_a and_o ease_v of_o those_o eternal_a pain_n to_o which_o such_o sinner_n be_v adjudge_v and_o this_o in_o part_n according_a to_o that_o merciful_a opinion_n and_o the_o motion_n of_o humane_a affection_n of_o which_o st._n aug._n speak_v in_o his_o enchiridion_n c._n 111._o as_o we_o note_v above_o and_o to_o which_o affection_n st._n chrysost_o give_v too_o much_o scope_n as_o we_o see_v in_o the_o forementioned_a passage_n of_o prayer_n &_o oblation_n for_o such_o sinner_n but_o as_o for_o purgatory_n pain_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o begin_v at_o death_n &_o to_o end_v before_o the_o resurrection_n he_o know_v no_o such_o pain_n as_o evident_o appear_v by_o that_o exact_a distribution_n of_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o punishment_n make_v by_o this_o father_n and_o cite_v below_o nu._n 11._o what_o we_o have_v say_v of_o some_o expression_n of_o chrysost_n apply_v prayer_n and_o relief_n to_o such_o sinner_n as_o before_o be_v describe_v may_v be_v say_v of_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n much_o urge_v out_o of_o st._n 〈◊〉_d cyril_n mist_n ●atech_n 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n who_o tell_v we_o they_o pray_v simple_o for_o all_o and_o account_v it_o a_o great_a help_n to_o those_o soul_n for_o which_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o great_a and_o holy_a sacrifice_n be_v offer_v and_o the_o great_a power_n which_o that_o prayer_n have_v to_o help_v he_o set_v out_o by_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o king_n entreat_v to_o pardon_n and_o call_v back_o one_o that_o be_v banish_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d according_a to_o the_o same_o manner_n say_v he_o we_o pray_v for_o sinner_n render_v god_n propitious_a now_o if_o it_o be_v after_o the_o same_o manner_n then_o by_o the_o force_n of_o this_o similitude_n it_o must_v be_v employ_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n may_v obtain_v pardon_n for_o sinner_n not_o reconcile_v to_o god_n before_o their_o death_n for_o so_o the_o banish_a person_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v not_o reconcile_v to_o his_o prince_n and_o then_o it_o sound_v to_o like_a purpose_n as_o those_o passage_n in_o chrysostom_n do_v and_o be_v but_o a_o private_a application_n or_o misapplication_n of_o that_o ancient_a practice_n neither_o agreeable_a to_o the_o intent_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n remember_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o offering_n only_o those_o that_o be_v at_o rest_n in_o christ_n as_o by_o the_o form_n of_o those_o prayer_n may_v appear_v nor_o make_v any_o thing_n for_o purgatory_n which_o suppose_v the_o person_n reconcile_v and_o justify_v before_o he_o come_v there_o but_o if_o the_o sinner_n which_o cyril_n here_o say_v be_v pray_v for_o be_v take_v in_o a_o more_o remiss_a sense_n for_o such_o as_o the_o romish_a church_n send_v to_o purgatory_n then_o the_o pray_v for_o they_o come_v to_o no_o more_o than_o what_o we_o say_v above_o to_o epiphanius_n and_o dionysius_n that_o such_o prayer_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o passage_n of_o such_o soul_n and_o their_o appear_v in_o judgement_n not_o to_o their_o be_v in_o pain_n after_o death_n for_o that_o such_o person_n must_v appear_v in_o judgement_n the_o first_o and_o the_o last_o judgement_n and_o undergo_v a_o scrutiny_n or_o examination_n and_o have_v as_o it_o be_v their_o hay_n and_o stubble_n burn_v up_o be_v a_o catholic_n truth_n but_o that_o person_n reconcile_v to_o god_n die_v and_o rest_v in_o christ_n shall_v present_o go_v to_o pain_n and_o torment_n be_v no_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n can_v not_o refer_v unto_o such_o person_n and_o we_o may_v observe_v that_o the_o undoubted_a cyril_n for_o those_o mystagogical_a catechism_n be_v think_v to_o be_v compose_v by_o john_n b._n 15._o cyril_n catech_n 15._o of_o jerusalem_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n when_o he_o come_v to_o judgement_n shall_v draw_v after_o he_o a_o 'slud_o of_o try_v fire_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o shall_v burn_v up_o all_o hay_n and_o stubble_n of_o their_o action_n so_o that_o if_o such_o sinner_n be_v pray_v for_o it_o must_v be_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o fire_n of_o trial_n and_o examination_n which_o they_o be_v to_o undergo_v in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o according_a to_o the_o true_a cyril_n thus_o much_o for_o that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n pray_v for_o the_o dead_a that_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v a_o belief_n of_o purgatory_n but_o be_v use_v upon_o other_o reason_n the_o three_o general_a head_n be_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n come_v forgiveness_n of_o sin_n after_o death_n or_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v out_o of_o which_o the_o romanist_n will_v conclude_v a_o purgatory_n the_o text_n of_o scripture_n be_v our_o saviour_n speech_n mat._n 12.32_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v he_o neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v here_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o make_v good_a three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o world_n to_o come_v signify_v the_o time_n beginning_n at_o every_o man_n death_n 2._o that_o from_o our_o saviour_n negative_a nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v this_o affirmative_a follow_v therefore_o there_o be_v some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 3._o that_o if_o some_o sin_n shall_v be_v forgive_v then_o to_o they_o to_o who_o they_o shall_v be_v forgive_v there_o remain_v pain_n and_o torment_v to_o be_v suffer_v i._o for_o the_o time_n come_v of_o the_o world_n to_o come_v the_o world_n to_o come_v be_v not_o where_o put_v for_o the_o time_n between_o every_o man_n death_n and_o the_o resurrection_n for_o so_o it_o will_v be_v present_a to_o some_o and_o future_a to_o other_o but_o be_v every_o where_o seculum_fw-la futurum_fw-la which_o be_v so_o to_o every_o one_o whether_o it_o be_v take_v according_a to_o the_o jewish_a acception_n or_o the_o christian_n with_o the_o jew_n the_o world_n to_o come_v do_v sometime_o signify_v the_o time_n of_o their_o expect_a
messiah_n and_o indeed_o that_o place_n of_o isa_n 9.6_o where_o the_o messiah_n be_v call_v pater_fw-la futuri_fw-la seculi_fw-la the_o father_n of_o the_o age_n or_o world_n to_o come_v to_o who_o a_o generation_n shall_v be_v account_v ps_n 22.30_o do_v accord_n thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v a_o opinion_n among_o the_o jew_n as_o they_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o their_o rabbin_n do_v tell_v we_o that_o some_o sin_n shall_v then_o be_v forgive_v which_o can_v not_o before_o and_o according_o it_o be_v a_o usual_a expression_n by_o say_v such_o a_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v no_o not_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v to_o show_v the_o atrocity_n and_o flagitiousness_n of_o such_o a_o sin_n which_o the_o grace_n that_o the_o messiah_n shall_v bring_v will_v not_o take_v away_o and_o so_o our_o saviour_n may_v speak_v this_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la according_a to_o their_o common_a opinion_n and_o say_n to_o express_v the_o heinousness_n of_o that_o sin_n or_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o take_v this_o phrase_n according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o suppose_v the_o messiah_n come_v already_o the_o world_n to_o come_v every_z where_o signify_v that_o which_o begin_v at_o the_o resurrection_n or_o last_o day_n of_o this_o world_n then_o be_v fix_v the_o end_n of_o this_o world_n mat._n 13.39.40_o &_o cap._n 28.20_o and_o then_o begin_v the_o world_n to_o come_v marc._n 10.30_o luc._n 18.30_o eph._n 1.21_o and_o so_o it_o must_v be_v take_v by_o st._n aug._n in_o that_o place_n which_o the_o romanist_n cite_v as_o to_o their_o purpose_n for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n not_o forgive_v before_o remittetur_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 24._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la qui_fw-la busdam_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la non_fw-la remittetur_fw-la otherwise_o say_v he_o it_o can_v not_o be_v true_o say_v of_o some_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v neither_o in_o 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