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A68610 A booke of Christian questions and answers Wherein are set foorth the cheef points of the Christian religion ... A worke right necessary and profitable for all such as shal haue to deale vvith the capious quarelinges of the vvrangling aduersaries of Gods truthe. Written in Latin by the lerned clerke Theodore Beza Vezelius, and newly translated into English by Arthur Golding.; Quaestionum et responsionum Christianarum libellus. English Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Golding, Arthur, 1536-1606. 1574 (1574) STC 2038; ESTC S112801 79,360 184

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For seynge that this manhoode of his was ioyned too the woord by personall vnion yea and so ioyned as it was moste holy in it selfe who cā think if y said humane nature be considered without the charge of mediatorship which is not of it selfe coincident too the manhoode but inioyned to the sonne by the father of his owne good wyll and willinglye vndertaken by the sonne I say who can thinke that there was anye defaulte in this manhoode whiche hée had taken vnto him so as it should not foorthe wyth haue byn moste woorthye of the euerlasting lyfe euen from the very fyrst moment of the saide vnion Therefore this his beinge bounde too the performance of the lawe is not properlye by nature but of good will nor simplye for that Christ is a man but bycause he béecame man for our sakes which condition he vndertooke of his owne accorde and performed it not in his owne behalfe for by good right he was moste blessed already but in our behalfe for whom it was his will to become subiecte too the lawe to the intent to redéeme them that were vnder the lawe Furthermore sée how vncertaine a sayinge that is whiche thou spakest laste of all concerninge the satisfyinge for our synnes For that is euen the chéefest parte of hys obedience or fulfillynge of the lawe as wée haue prooued a little afore So then if he fulfilled the lawe in his owne béehalfe you must néedes confesse that he dyed for his owne sake also Quest You say then that we be iustified before god that is to say that we be coū●ed and denounced rightuous beecause Christes obedience is imputed vnto vs ●hich consisteth chiefly of two partes ●amely of satisfaction for our sinnes ●f full performance of all rightuousnes ●f the lawe An. I say so Quest To what purpose then is Christ furthermore made our sanctificatiō for doubtlesse he that is accepted for rightuous is also accounted for holy Ans Whosoeuer is rightuous muste also of necessitie be holye but not contrarywise except there come newe grace too the former graces after the maner that we haue auouched the terme Rightuous too bée taken in this present matter that is too wyt for suche a one as not onely is not hild for a transgressor of the lawe because his sins be clensed away in Christ but also hath fulfilled the rightuousnesse of the lawe in him To bée shorte I saye that this holinesse is the goodnesse and vncorruptnes of his person and y this rightuousnesse whereof wee intreate as now and whereof the beléeuers are termed rightuous in themselues is not the rightuousnesse that commeth by imputation but the imp of that holinesse so as the former is as the trée and this other is as the fruite of it ▪ After this sorte was Adam created holye that is too saye good and faultlesse and hée had also béecome rightuous if he had kept the lawe whiche his creator had appoyncted him Que. But al men are corrupt by nature An. Agein except Christ the second Adā who was conceiued by the holye ghost too the ende y the nature of man might in him not onely recouer the clennesse which it had loste but also be aduaunced too a degree of goodnes far higher without measure For the fyrste Adam was but created after the image of God but the latter Adam is also God bycause he is vphild in the euerlasting sonne of god who hath by vnutterable meanes sanctifyed the nature that he hath taken vnto him and that is doone too the intent the same should also make vs holy Quest And wherefore do you call christ the second Adam An. Bicause y like as Adam was created too the end y al men should be borne of him by naturall generation So christ ●ath taken mannes nature vpon him ●oo the ende that all suche as beleeue in ●im should bee spiritually borne a new 〈…〉 him by grace Quest VVas it not ynough for vs to be ●orne once by naturall meanes Ans Yes as apperteyning to this lyfe 〈…〉 respect wherof it were a folie to think wée bée borne any oftener But for asmuch as Adam hath put himself in daunger of dubble death both for himself and for his ofspring it behoued vs eyther to perishe or too bee borne againe intoo euerlasting life after a far other sorte And therefore this other Adam is geuen vs that both holinesse and euerlasting life might flowe spiritually out of him intoo vs by grace like as sin and death were sprede into vs from the first Adam bodily and by nature Quest Layforth yet more plainely this sanctification of ours in Christ Ans That thing is sayd too bee sanctified or made holy whiche is sorted out from the common vncleannesse that it may bee moste pure and wholly consecrated vntoo God the vtter enemy of all vnclennesse After this sort is our nature sanctified or halowed in Christe euen from the very instant of his conception and that too the intente to sanctify vs whiche thing is done two wayes For first like as I sayde that wee be accounted throughly rightuous afore god by imputation of Christes rightuousnes not in ourselues but in him too whome wee bee vnited by faith Euen so also I say that by the imputation of his perfect holinesse and sowndnesse our persones are accounted throughly holy and sound and so consequently are acceptable too the father not in ourselues but in christ Further I say that the force and efficacie of this moste pure holinesse which is in the fleshe of Christe floweth euen in too vs by the working of the holy Ghost in vs so as we be halowed in ourselues that is to say wee bee segregated from the defilinges of this worlde and serue God both in spirit and body Which benefite is euerywhere in the scriptures called Sanctification or holinesse regeneration or newbirth Illumination or Inlightening the new man the new creature and the Spirite or Spiritualnesse Que. you say then that this latter sanctification is not a thing without vs nor ours by imputation only but a new indowment perfectly greffed stickinge in vs bestowed vpon vs in christ by the mere grace of the heauenly father and wrought in vs by the vertue of the holy Ghoste An. So say I. Que. What neede then haue wee of the other sanctification of our nature which is imputed to vs An. Forasmuch as this holinesse that sticketh in vs is but onely begonne in vs according as it appeareth by the continual debate betweene the flesh and the spirit euen in the best sort of men Therfore to the intent our persones may bee acceptable vnto god and so cōsequently the thing that proceedeth from vs may please him for the life of holy men is as it were a continuall offringe vp of themselues wherunto the Apostle exhorteth vs there had neede to steppe in a farre other holinesse namely the same whiche is moste full and
to do his sonne wrong if he had pu●ished him as an offender He strake ●im therfore not as an offender but as ●ne that of his owne accord was willyng ●o yeeld himselfe as a borowe or suretie for the vnryghtuous and therefore th● father did nothyng that myght not w● stand with his iustice Quest But why was he condempned ●● the barre before the Iudge and also ex●cuted by the death of the Crosse seyn● he coulde haue dyed otherwise also fo● vs Ans To the ende it might thereby th● better appeere that he became accurse● for our sakes and that he toke vpon hy● the whole wrathe of his father against our sinnes to set vs at full liberty Quest But death is incident to the bodie onely and therfore by this death o● his he seemeth to haue discharged bu● onely our bodies And yet notwithstanding all of vs dye still VVhereupon i● seemeth to followe that he saueth neyther bodie nor soule Ans It was requisite that Christ should take vnto him both soule and body togeether that he might both die for the fyrs● death is the separation of the soule from the body and also that being become perfecte man he might deliuer men whole ● perfecte Quest Meanest thou then that he suffered also the paines whereunto our soules ●e subiecte ●ns Yea verely for it is euen the chiest part of Christes sufferinges that be●es the extreme tormentes of most cru●l death he also endured for our sakes ●e most horrible weight of gods wrath ●an the whiche nothinge can bee more ●eadfull durynge whiche tyme hys Godhead did as it were rest in hym all ●e whyle to the intent that the man●de whiche he had taken vnto hym al●houghe it quite quayled not vnder the ●urden whyche otherwise had been vn●llerable to the verye Angels myght ●otwithstanding most sharply feele and ●●nally beare out gods whole wrath vn●tterably inflamed agaynst all the sinnes ●f all the chosen euen till satisfaction were made to the full Therefore at what ●ime he hung vppon the Crosse he was ●lso in the middes of the torments of hell ●hat he might fully deliuer vs from both the deathes Quest But I pray you if he came to de●iuer vs from death why did he himself dye Ans Because that else the said soueraine iustice of god whiche it béehooued to be satisfied should not appéere in our redemption And therefore the more glorious is Christes victory euen in this respect that hée ouercame death by diyng Quest Why then doo the chosen sort die seyng Christ hath vanquished death for them Ans Because Christe is not come to restore vs into the same state of this world which wée haue lost in Adam but to remooue vs into farre better immortalitie which thing cannot bée done except wee depart out of this worlde Therfore albeit that this separation of the soule and bodye whiche is called the firste deathe sprange of sinne the remnantes wherof are euen in the holiest men yet notwithstandyng if ye marke well the purpose drift of God he strikes not the chosen with it properly as a iudge but sendes it to them as a most louyng father that calles away his children home to himselfe and therfore it not onely frayeth not the beléeuers but also refresheth and chéereth them Quest VVhy then did not that power of his vtter it self out of hande agaynst death Ans Verely it vttered it self out of hand in asmuche as his body suffered not any corruption Neuerthelesse it was his wil to haue it lie buried for a space bothe to the intent that his beyng dead in déede his death beynge confirmed also by the seales of his enemies might prooue his resurrection whiche was to insew anon after also to the intent hée might lyke a conqueror pursew death fléeyng away before him into his innermoste dungeon consequently perfume our graues with the quickening sent of his owne death Quest Is his resurrection then a witnes that he vndertooke to die willyngly to purchace immortalitie for vs Ans It is so For hée is rysen by his owne power neuer to die any more to the ende that wée also shuld be quickened in him for euermore Quest But why went he vp into heauen and not rather taried still with vs Ans In body he is verely and in deede gone away from vs amonge whom hée was and is mounted aboue all heauens where he was not afore in bodye bothe to the intent that hée beyng the first that is risen from death myght fyrst take possession of the heauenly kingdome triumphing ouer his vanquished enemies and also to teache vs to hye vs thitherwarde where he hath prepared a place for vs. And yet is he all the while present wyth vs by his spirite gouerning his Churche as the head gouerneth the members that be ioyned vnto it Quest Then hath he shifted his place to goe thither where as is no place Ans It is so he hath chaunged place accordinge as the thinge done witnesseth and according as the verynesse of a bodye yea thoughe it be glorifyed requyreth But hys chaunging of place is according to that nature whiche is bounded that is done not to forsake vs for in as muche as Christ is one persone God and man together he is neuerthelesse still present with his seruauntes by his whole power because hee is verye God but t● wythdrawe vs from the earthe and to teache vs to seeke heauenly thinges And where as thou sayest there is no plac● whether as he is ascended it is a fond● imagination Let this suffice thee namely that the godhead onely is infinite an● that all other thinges either in heauen or aboue heauen or in earth or in the bottomelesse déepes and consequently his body which though it be a glorified body is notwithstandyng still a mans bodie are accordynge to the nature of them finite and bownded with place And how they be contained in that eternall glory wée shall then perceiue when wée come thither ourselues Quest Thou seemest then to deuide Christ or to make two Christs of whō the one is present and thother is away Ans When I say that Christ is absent as concernyng his flesh and yet auouche him to be verily present both as concernyng his godhead and also if he be considered as a whole thing that is to say as one person God and man I deuide him not but take away the confoundyng of his natures Quest What is ment by his sitting at the right hand of the father Ans That he hauyng layd aside not the verines of his flesh but all infirmitie frailtie of the flesh is now aduaunced to such state of glorie as surmounteth all name That is to wit that his fleshe is already fully glorifyed by the godhead which dwelleth bodily in it without beréeuing it of the own essence or essētiall properties and y it ordereth and ruleth all things in heauen and earth with
finde ●hat the ablenesse to bée willinge to re●eiue is geuen vntoo vs and also that ●ée bée willinge to receiue bothe toge●her in one selfe same moment For o●herwise the grace were in vaine Ther●ore as many as impugne this manner ●f togither workinge as though it were ●epugnant too the grace of God they ●ewray their owne vnskilfulnesse many ●ayes consideringe that this selfsame ●ogether workinge is the gyfte of Gods grace and woorketh in such wise together with it as that in order of causes it is in déede the latter like as it foloweth immediatly after the cause that woorketh the effecte by reason whereof all thinges are fathered whollye vppon the onely grace of God and yet notwithstandinge God at once and in one selfsame moment bringeth to passe both that through grace wée may know and throughe grace wée doo knowe in déede that through grace we may 〈…〉 and through grace we do wil in deed●… and finally that through grace wee m●… doo and through grace wee doe indeed●… For the efficient cause in possibility ca●… not be called efficient in working vnt●… it be performed in very déede Moreouer sith there is not taken frō man neyther the ability of vnderstanding nor th●… abilitie of willing as I haue saide afor●… but onely the ability to vnderstand rightly and to will rightly it cannot bee denid●… but that at least wise ther is in him a natural together working bycause the whe●… as the first disposing grace is not receiue●… but of one that hath vnderstāding wil and men by nature do generally vnderstand and will man receyueth the offered grace not as a block but as one that is endewed with vnderstanding wil and so farforth as he doth but vnderstand and will he worketh together with god his maker at whose hande he hath receyned those natural powers But in respect y he vnderstandeth well and willeth wel that must bee wholly attributed too the newcome grace whereby it commeth too passe that he prepareth to make himself ready to vnderstand aright to will a●ight and to doo aright when he hath re●eiued the grace and also that he vnder●…andeth willeth dooth rightly indeede Quest And what is it to be thought of ●…e effectes of the first grace An. That the first grace is effectuall it 〈…〉 to be imputed to Gods seconde grace ●…r wée should straytwaies fall from the ●…rst if there folowed not another imme●iatelye after to make the former effec●ual and so must ye procéede on stil from ●race to grace Que. But it could hardly be denied but ●hat assone as we haue receiued the first ●race we worke together with the rest ●f the graces folowing so consequēt●y that the later graces are bestowed for merit or desert of the former grace An. Away with the names of desert and merit which fight ful but against grace ●ow much so euer the halfe pelagian So●histers prate to the contrarye He that ●enyeth vs to woorke together with the ●…rst grace denieth the efficacy of the first grace And looke what I haue sayde of the first grace the same doo I say of the graces that insew For that the fyrste grace is so effectuall as that wée vse 〈…〉 well wée may thanke the second gra●… for it For were not the seconde gra●… present yea both freely geuē free●… effectual we shold not only not goe forward but also goe quite backe againe into a far worse state then wee were i● before Then as for this toogether working which as I said procedeth wholl●… of the insewing grace what hath it in●… that may merite or deserue anye recompence at al Nothing at al for euen the●… when wee after a sorte doe vse it well●… which thinge also if the matter be we●… lookte vppon is throughe grace w●… doo rather vse it amisse I confesse then that the faithefull seruauntes haue Talentes committed vntoo them But yet agayne it is of men grace that the woorkinge of those Seruauntes is allowed and that they b●… taken for faithfull Seruauntes an●… finally that rewarde is geuen vnto●… them which is not dewe vntoo them i●… anye other respecte than bicause i●… was freely promysed and is freely performed Quest But I woulde fayne learne this o●… you also How this corruption is spread to mankinde Namely whither it bee 〈…〉 nature or by imitacion ●… Forasmuche as ye bée sure inough 〈…〉 it is come in ye shoulde rather haue ●…ed how it might be driuen out again ●…euerthelesse because of many noysom ●…ours I will endeuer to satisfie you in ●…s behalfe also I answere therefore ●…t the maladie is first spread abrode by ●…ture and afterwarde confirmed by ●…itation ●●est How can you prooue that ●…s By many textes of scripture when 〈…〉 wyll and speciallye by Paules argu●…nt grounded vpon effectes For euen ●…y also do die whiche could not imitate ●…am by reason they are not of yeres of ●…reaton but deathe is the rewarde ●…inne ergo all men are in originall ●…ne ●●est VVhat if I shoulde saye that the ●…te death whiche is the seperation of 〈…〉 bodie and the soule and the loose●…ge of the same bodye againe into his ●…t groundes is naturall For all com●…unded thinges are naturally subiecte 〈…〉 dissolution An. God himselfe speakinge by Moys● wil disprooue you Besides this your a●gument holdes not of necessitie For ● thoughe the thinge that is compounde● maye of it owne nature be dissolued y● notwithstandinge it is not dissolued ● verye déede vntill the cause that co●pounded it do first cease to mainteine● together What absurditie then is th● in my spéeche when I say that mā w● in such wise created of soule and body● yea that mans body was in suche w● compounded or compacted togither of ● elementes as the creator of them wol● haue maintained them togither for eu● had not sinne stept in by the waye Quest I graunt then that mortal bodi● are begottē of mortal bodies But wh● is that to the corruptiō of the soule o● lesse thou think that the soules also a● conueied ouer from one into anothe● Ans What opinion manye of the ol● wryters haue had concerning this m●ter I passe not neither will I greatl● striue about it so it be agréede vpon th● originall infection is spredde into vs ● nature Yet thinke I it not good too d● semble this that the doctrine of conueyi● ouer of the soule seemeth very awk to me for either must the whole soule or at least some péece of it be conueied ouer Nowe if the whole bée conueyed then doubtlesse must the partes of it néedes be quite dispatched out of hand But if there bée but some péece of it conueyed howe can anye péece of it bée cut away from an Essence that is most single Quest If the soule come not of the corrupt father but of him that is the father maker of spirits how coms it by that corruptiō Is it by infection of the body
as I thinke we shall doo that more conueniently another time In the meane while if you bee satisfied in the thinges you haue demaunded I am very glad and I would with you too minde these thinges earnestly night and ●aye ¶ All honor glory praise and thankes bee onely vntoo God the Father through our Lorde Iesus Christe Amen ⸫ ¶ EINIS Rom. 1. 21. Iohn 17. 3 Gods word Ephe. 2. 20. Rom. 10. 8 2. tim 3. 16 2. Pet. 1. 20. Actes 2. 11. 1. Cor. 1. 17 18. 19. 20 21. 22. 23. 24. Luke 21. 15 Acts. 6. 10 Iohn 5. 30 Actes 17. 11 2. Cor. 4. 3 Iohn 6. 45 Acts. 13. 48 Phil. 1. 29 Acts. ●6 14 2 tim 3. 17. Being or substance Deut. 6. 4. Mat. 28. 19 what the essēce or substāce of god is what the persons of the godhead bee The distinction of the persons in the godhed Reuerence to be geuen to gods misteries Knowledge of God. Rom. 8. 15. 16. 17. c. ●bm 38. 39 Gal. 4. 6. 7 Iohn 16. 17. c. Exo 20. 5. 6 Ex. 34. 6. 7. What gods iustice is What gods mercy ●● How iustice and mercy may matche Iohn 1. 14 16. 13 17. 3. Rom. 8. 14. 1. Ioh. 4. 13. Math. 1. 21. Mark 2. 7 Gal. 4. 45 Heb. 2. 9 14. 15 Christes Incarnation Iohn 1. 14 Heb. 2. 16 1. Iohn 1. 7 Vnion A Discriptiō of vnion or vnitinge of two thinges into one The vnion of the two natures in Christ Reuerence of heauenly misteries The orderly proceding of gods iust Heb. 2. 14 15. 16. 17 Rom 8. 3 ● Cor. 5. 19 Rom. 5. 8 Christs māhod moste pure without sinne Math. 1. 20 Rom 8. 3 1. Pet. 3. 18 Christ suffered as a borow or sue●tie not as an offender 2. Cor. 5. 21 Obiection agaīst christes full redeeming of the whole man by his death Gal. 3. 13. Christ suffereth the whole dew for our sins Why Christ deliuered vs by dying Heb. 2 14 Esay 53. 8 c. Ose 13. 14 why the chosen die still Rom. 5. 15 c. 1. cor ▪ 15. 35 How the power of christ vttred tselfe Math. 28. 2. 3. c. Actes 2. 24. Rom. 6. 4 what Christes Resurrection witnesseth vnto vs Rom. 6. 10. 1. Cor. 15. 3. 4. c. The cause of Christes Assention how be is absent from vs Ephe. 4. 8. 9. 10. 1. cor 15 20 Iohn 14. 2 Col. 3. 1 Mat. 28. 20 Christ fitting at the right hand of the father Phi. 2. 9 Col. 2. 9. Mat. 28. 18. Phil 2 ● 0. Heb. 2. 8. 9 1. cor 15. 17 Essential properties Luk. 24. 39 A right papistical obiectiō wheron they builde their deuilish masse Colo. 3. 1 Ihon. 3. 13. what propertie is That is to say partaking made apertaining to the one as vvel as to the other made cōmō or indifferē● to both Hovve eche of christes natures cōmunicate their properties vnto other The great force of the vnion of natures vvhat is mēt by communic●tinge of properties Hovv christ is present vvith vs To vvhat purpose Christes bodily absence ●erueth Mat. 28 18 Iohn 17. 2 Mat. 28 ▪ 20 Iohn 15. 4 Gal 2. 20 Ephe. 1. 11. Christes intercession Obieccion against christes mediation in both his natures Difference betvvene a meane a mediator or meanmaker Christe is bothe a meane and a mediator vvhat is to be thought of the office of intercession Of praying to Saincts Angels Mat. 11. 22. Iohn 19 11 The good intentes of the popish praying to Sainctes Another obiection of the Papistes for praying to sainctes 2 Thes 3. 1. Rom. 8. 26 How the holy ghost prayeth for vs Rom. 8. 15. Christs intercession for vs is and shal be euerlasting 1. cor 15 28 Of the yelding vp of christs kingdom to god the father Of christes comming to eudgement 2. tim 4. 1. Luk 16 19. Luke 16. 9. 23. 24. Actes 7. 60 Phil. 1. 23 Mat. 25. 3● The dead 1 cor 15. 51 52. 1. thes 4. 15. Endles dāpnation Obection against the generalnesse of the resurrection 1. cor 15. 22 Gen. 2. 17 Gen. 3. 19 Obiection agaynste the punishment of the bodie for the souls offences 1. cor 35. c 1. thes 5. 25. Heb. 2. 14 Eternall life and eternall death The onely way to eternall life Ioh. 20. 7. 1 The distinction of true faithe Rom. 8. 37 c. Whens true faith commeth Mat. 16. 17. Ioh 1. 19. 18. 17. 15 1. Cor. 2. 9 19. 14. Col. 22. 1. Thes 1. 5 Of mans corruption Corruption of the body in substance Iohn 3. 6 Ephe. 2. 5 That is to vvit both of soule and bodye Corruptione of the soul in qualities and vvhich those qualities bee Error in opiniō about original sin vvhat is mēt by qualities in the soule The soule is not corrupted in substance but in qualities for othervvise it should die as the body doth Neither reason nor Wil is taken away by Adams fall but both of them be vtterly defaced and corrupted Rom. 1. 20 Namely will. Rom. 7. 18. 19. Ro. 7. 8. 9 10. c. Reason vnreformed sucketh alwayes vppō vntruth Obiection Of freewill Naturall reason counseleth nothīg but euill 1. ●or 2. 14 Hovv necessity and free vvil or willingnes may frame together Necessitie Willingnes Compulsion Freenesse Mannes freenesse before his fall Ioh. 8. 36 Rom. 6. 16 8. 15. Of preuenting grace Rom. 5. 10 Tit. 3. 5 1. Ioh. 4. 19 The woorking of naturall vvitte vvith preuētinge grace Grace effectuall by grace Of Merit or deseruing Rom. 4. 4 1. Cor. 4. 7 Mat. 25. 14 Rom. 4. 5 Of the spreding of originall sinne into al mankinde By learning it one of an other or by folowing one anothers example Rom. 5. 14. Rom. 6. 23 Obiection that the death of the bodie shold be but naturall and not a penaltie of sinne Gen. 2. 17. 3. 19. Rom. 5. 12. Of the conueying of the soule Bezaz opinion of the creation of soules Rom. 5. 12 c. To be made one with christ is the only remedi of sin death damnatiō That is to say partakīg of christ or being made one thinge with Christ Esay 9. 5. Rom. 8. 32 1. cor 10. 16 Eph. 5. 30 Iohn 17. 11 21. 22 A cauill against ou● ownering or possessig of Christ Iohn 13. 3. 17. 10 1. cor 6. 20. 7. 23. ●om 7.1 ● c. ● cor 11. 2 ● ph 5. 15 Ephe. 5. 30 why our communiting with christ is called spirituall Acts. 4. 31 Ephe. 4. 15 16. Ephe. 5. 32 Ephe. 5. 30 Christs being one with vs and wee with him Ephe. 5. 32 The fruit of our beinge one with Christ Eph. 1 18 6. 9. c. Eph 3. 8. 9 19. Gal 4. 4 Math. 3. 15 Rom. 5. 19 Phil. 2. 8 Rom. 8 3. 4 Rom. 6. 6 Gal. 2. 20. Imputation 1. Cor. 1. 30. Ioh. 17. 20. 21. c. Against the doctrine of Transubstantiation Ep. 4. 15. 16 Ephe. 5. 23 Christs righ
vpon christ offered vnto ● both at once For the cause of a thinge ●nnot bée woorkinge in verye déede vn●se the effecte of it come foorth together with it But if yee looke too the ord●● of causes I graunt that the traynme●● of faith yea of trewe fayth goeth befo●● the taking holde vppon Christe and● consequently is geuē not to them y a●● already greffed but to them the are ●● the poynt too bee greffed intoo him Y●● foloweth it not therevpon that fayth 〈…〉 not geuen vntoo vs in Christe consi●●ringe that the heauenly father setty● his determination in his onely Sonn● dooth not then first behold vs in Chris● when wee be geuen vnto him but ha●● chosen vs knowen vs and loued vs 〈…〉 him yea euen before the foundations 〈…〉 the worlde were layde muche rath●● when as yet wee hated him like 〈…〉 Christe himself also toke hold of vs first to the ende that wee might take hold● him afterward Again loke what is begon in vs by grace that we migh therb● bee greffed into Christ and therfore 〈…〉 in respecte of the order of causes is do●● before our takinge holde vppon Christ● the same is increased and strengthen●● in vs afterwarde by the same grace i● Christ whom wee haue now taken h●● on by faith Quest VVhat then are the things that wee atteine in Christ An. Paule concludeth this whole matter most plainly and also most briefelye when he sayeth that God the father hath made Christe our wysedome Iustifica●ion Sanctification and Redemption Que. What meene you by being made ●ur wisedome An. The selfesame thinge that zacharie ●●eeneth when he sayeth that his owne ●●●nne Iohn Baptist is sent to shewe the ●nowledge of saluation that is too saye ●o shew Christe himselfe For the onlye ●rewe wisedome is this which Christe ●●acheth vnto● men namelye when hee ●iscloseth himselfe vntoo them whiche ●●inge the father also hath testified with lowde voice from heauen saying heere ●ee him Quest Recken you this among the gifts ●hat wee receiue by Christ Answere My méeninge is that Christe hymselfe 〈…〉 so géeuen vntoo vs to bée the onely tea●er of that trew and natiue wisedome ●● that hee teacheth himselfe vntoo vs For he is both the teacher and the thinge that this is taught And therefore amonge Christes giftes the verye foremost and chiefest is that he géeueth himselfe vnto vs when he furnisheth vs with the knowledge of himselfe Quest VVhat doth Paule cal iustification in this place Ans That wherby we bée made rightuous that is to saye so farfoorth perfecte sounde faultlesse and vnblamable as not onelye there is quite wyped out of vs whatsoeuer vncleanenesse is in vs from top too to wherby God who is singulerly pure maye by anye meanes be offended but also there is moste plentuouslye founde in vs whatsoeuer may so muche delight him in this humaine nature as he of his good will maye voutchesaue to crowne wyth euerlastinge lyfe And of that rightuousnesse whereby a man i● accounted ryghtuous béefore God the certeine squéer and inuariable rule i● Gods owne law And the lawe not only forbiddeth the thinges that are not to be done threatning euerlasting death for a penaltie but also inioyneth the perfect louig of god and our neighbor Therfore that a man may be accounted rightuous afore god there be two things required of necessitye that is to say the vtter absence of all sinne and the fulfilling of all right according to the lawe Que. But this was neuer founde in any mortall wight An. Sauing Christ who not onely neuer sinned but also performed y who le lawe to the full Que. Tell me I pray you was not christ perfectly rightuous euen from the very moment of his conception Ans In respect of his Godhead he not onely was rightuous from euerlasting but also the very rightuousnes it self y is to say the souereine and most perfect purenesse And in respect of his manhod he was indewed with singular holines yea euen farre aboue the Angels euen from the very instant of the conception of his fleshe But now by the name of rightuousnesse wee meene that which foloweth vppon the perfect performing of gods law which rightuousnesse christ had not in effect vntill he had finished the whole woorke that was inioyned him For this is the rightuousnes by the imputation whereof wee bee iustified or made righteous and not the foresayd essentiall rightuousnes which is proper to the godhead nor yet the other naturall purenes of Christes fleshe wherof wee will intrete seuerally by it selfe for want of which distinction Osiander hath ouershot himselfe to fowly Question But I see not yet how this rightuousnesse may suffice For inasmuch as we not only performe not the lawe but also are ouercouered with innumerable sinnes howe shal wee bee accounted as though we had neuer sinned that is to say to be vndefiled of our sinnes if the spots of our sinnes be not first washed out and that cānot be don without suffering of the punishments dew to them Answere Thou sayest righte Therefore whereas I sayde that Christ not onely brake not the lawe but also dyd most fully and perfectly performe the lawe thou must take his so dooing to comprehende in especially a satisfaction for al the sinnes of them that beleue for euery man is bounde by the lawe to loue god and his neyghbour perfectly not indefinitely but defynitelye that is to saye as hauinge regarde of hys owne peculiar callynge As for examples sake if a magistrate loue God but as some other priuate person dooth hée cannot bée saide too haue done his duetie because he is bound to loue god as a magistrate whiche maner of dealinge is too bée vnderstoode of all other kinde of callinges And Christ was sent to suffer for vs the punishmentes dew for our sinnes which thinge hee performed all his life longe but specially in that Sacrifice of his wherin he béecame obedient to hys father vnto death euen the death of the Crosse Therefore by woorkinge in sufferinge and by offeringe himselfe for vs he both fulfilled the lawe for vs and also made satisfaction for our sinnes Quest But in respecte that Christe is beecome man it seemeth he was bound by nature to performe the rightuousnesse of the lawe that is to saye too loue God and his neighbour perfectlye because the said law is laid vpon the very nature of mākind And therfore it semeth that his fulfilling of the lawe was not for vs but for himself that he might purchace himself life which thing cannot be said of the punishmentes that were to be indured by him for our sinnes An. Althoughe we should say that christ as touching his flesh purchased himselfe eternall life by fulfillinge the lawe whervnto hée was bounde yet were it no absurditie to saye also that the force of this desert is so great that it floweth also euē vnto the beleuers But the former parte cannot well be iustified
seme worthy to please at leastwyse in somme behalfe Answete Most falfe is this consequence For God cannot no not euen of couenant allow any other rightuousnes as worthye of that name than such as is fully answerable to the law in all pointes except he wil be repugnant too himselfe which thynge were a sinne to say Thus therefore oughtest thou too haue gathered The woorkes of the regenerated do please God though they bee vnperfect ●rgo God is exceeding mercifull Question Besydes this there is mention made euerywhere of hyre wages reward requiting and recompence An. The name of Wages hath a larger scope than the name of euerlastinge life And it is certain that God of his passinge liberality rendereth temporal blissinges euen too the vngodly be they neuer so vnworthy Againe whither you referre the name of wages too eternall life or too other benifites yet doth it not folow that the same is payde as dewe det But rather this dooth most of all commend Gods mercy that he vout saueth to geue the name of Wages or hyre too the vndew reward which he bestoweth vpon vs of his owne mere grace in Christ too the end y we although we bee but vnprofitable seruantes for who is able too bestow any thing vpon god might notwithstandinge perceiue that wee haue not lost our labour Finallye although this wages be promised fréely and geuen fréely yet is it geuen too hym that woorketh and therefore it is called a wages or hyre Quest If it bee geuen too him that worketh ergo it is geuē him for his works An. Nay rather if it bée geuen wée bee sure it is not payde as a dewtye Agayn there is farre difference betwéen geuing too a woorker and geuinge for workes I may well say therefore that eternall life is geuen to them worke bicause faith shall bée esteemed by the frutes of it and rightuousnesse by faith but not payde them for theyr works sakes And after this manner must that text bée expownded where it is sayde Euery man shal bee iudged accordinge to the thinges that he hath done in his body and suche other like sentences Quest VVhy so Ans Bycause good woorkes make not men rightuouse but folowe him that be leeueth and that is aredy becom rightuous in Christe like as good fruytes make not a tree too bee good but a tree is knowen to be good by the good fruites of it Que. But alitle afore you fetched good works not out of iustificatiō but out of Sanctification An. I graunt it For there is no man iustified by imputation of Christes rightuousnes but he is also sanctified by his spirit Quest Say you then that good woorkes bee needefull to saluation An. If faith bee needefull too saluation and woorkes doo of necessity accompany tre●e faith as whiche cannot bee ydle surely the other foloweth also that good woorks bee needefull to saluation how beeit not as a cause of saluation for we bee iustified and therfore also do liue by faith only in Christ but as a thinge that of necessity cleaueth vnto trew faith So saith Paule that those bee Goddes childrē which are led by gods spirite Iohn saith that those be rightuous which work rightuousnes And Iames also declaring not by what meanes we be iustified but wherby trew faith insticatiō are discerned proueth by Abrahams exāple y those are not iustified which vtter no workes of faith For in such wise must Iames be made to agree with Paule too the ende it may playnely appeere how they bee but brabblers which condemne the necessity of good workes for false doctrine Question VVhat if a man should neuer be endewed with fayth tyl the laste instant of his death for so it seemeth too haue happened too the theefe that hunge by Christ VVhat manner of good works ●halll such a one bee able to bring forth An. Uerely the faith of that théefe was vnspeakably workful in that short time ●or he rebuked the blasphemies and wicked dooinges of the other theefe he detested his owne crimes with an assured and passing wonderfull faith he acknowledged Christ for the euerlasting kinge euen in the reprochefulnes of his crosse when all his disciples hilde their peace he called vppon him as his sauiour and finallye hée openlye reprooued the mercilesse cruelty and wicked spéeches of the ●ewes But the acknowledginge of sin the callinge vpon god the father in christ and thankesgeuinge are the excellentest woorkes of the firste table whiche cannot bée vtterly seperated from fayth in no man And admitte that some man beeing preuented with death is able too shewe no woorkes of the seconde table Yet is not the faith in him therefore too be counted ydle because that althoughe it haue not Charitie in actuall deede yet is it accompanied with it in possibilitie Quest I haue yet one doubt more behinde VVhy any man shoulde be damned for euill woorkes if no man be iustified for good woorkes Ans The reasone is manifest namely because that euen the lightest sin that is deserueth althoughe not the extreamest paines in euerlastinge death yet euerlastinge death it selfe whiche generallye is the hyre of sinne but no rightuousnesse can worthely deserue eternal lyfe except it be suche a rightuousnes as the law requireth that is to wit a perfect and sound state Therefore shew me one that fulfilleth the law as there is none found which is not a breaker of the lawe and I will graunt the foresaide argument Quest Saye you then that there shal bee oddes in the punishements of the damned sort An. Althoughe this matter bee to be inquired of verye soberlye yet haue I not spoken it vnaduisedly For besides that the order of Iustice requireth that hee whiche hathe sinned more greeuouslye should be more greuously punished considering that all sinnes are not alike heynous sauing so farforthe as they matche in generalitie for it is a Paradoxe of the Stoykes not of christians to auouch that all sins bee equal christ himself witnesseth the same thing expresly saying y the case of the Sodomites shal bee more tolerable in the day of iudgement than the case of them that had reiected him Quest Then shall therebe oddes in the glory of those that shal be saued An. Verelye so doothe the reason of contraries require And wheras the Apostle sayeth that suche as haue sowen sparelie shall reape sparelye it séemeth not that the same shoulde be restrained to temporall blessinges onely Quest But of sowinge cometh reapinge ergo rightuousnes and life proceede of good workes An. Truely similitudes must neuer bée racked further than the nature of the thinges that are treated of and the purpose of him that vseth the similitudes will beare For else ther wil ensew most fond false things out of nomber which thing whē vnskilful interpreters marke not they must néedes setforth manye foolishe and false thinges But in the foresaide place the Apostle
setteth foorth the proporcionable resemblance of woorkes and glory and not y cause of glory For in all places he stedfastlye defendeth that rightuousnesse is the mere gyfte of God without the woorkes of the lawe and is not payde as a dew det but bestowed vppon the beléeuers as a grace Que. He meaneth but the works of the Ceremoniall lawe Ans A fond answer For hys matchinge of duty grace one againste another cānot stand onles all the workes of the lawe bee excluded without exception and yet I wil ouerpasse other argumēts of paules which are bent directlye against the very law of the tenne hests bent I say not to● deface the law which is the madnes of the Manichees but too take away from it the power of iustifiyng Again I besech you if works may be thanked for any maner of rightuousnes why should yee exclude the ceremonies y bée rightlye vsed For truly they be comprehēded in y sowerth commaundement of the ten hestes as longe as they were rightlye vsed they were most excellent workes Quest But ceremonies be abolished by the comming of Christ An. I confesse they be abolished because they bée fulfilled in Christ But the matter it self declareth that where Paule disputeth of the causes of Iustification his reasons tend not to proue that the Ceremonies bee abolished but too shew that saluatiō rested alwaies in the only rightuousnes ef christ imputed to thē that beleue for confirmation therof among other things he alledgeth y examples of Abraham and Dauid Quest Then may wee say that paule excludeth but onely the good works that go before the grace of Iustification An. No lesse fond is this answere also For besides that the Apostle alledgeth manifeestly the examples testimenies of them that were iustified namely of Abraham and Dauid to the intent I may ●et passe his other reason grounded vppon the very nature of the lawe what a madnesse were it to busie a mannes self aboute the excludinge of those thinges whiche are not at all for why to déeme that they wiche are not iustified can d●o anye good woorkes it is no lesse folie than if a man should say that a tree can bringe forth good fruite before it be g●od ●t selfe Quest But although the hyre of eternal life be not dew for the worthines of the very workes yet is it dew at leastwise by couenant An. What couenant meene you I beseeche you Quest The couenant of the lawe which is Do this and thou shalt liue And if thou wilt enter into life kepe the commundementes An. How this couenant is to be vnderstoode it is to bée sene by the threatning which is set against the promyse And that is this by the witnes of the apostle cursed is euery one that abydeth not in all the thinges that are written in the booke of the lawe that he may kepe thē But the law requireth perfect loue And no man but onely Christ hath euer performed the law to the full therefore life is dew to none by the couenant but only vnto Christ As for vs we haue it giuen vs by mere grace from out of him who also is himselfe giuen vnto vs by mere grace Quest VVherfore call you them good woorkes then if they deserue not eternall lyfe An. Surely the Latin diuines yea euen the aūcient sort of them haue vnproperly vsed the word Merit or Deserue in sted of Obtein and the woord Desirt or deseruing or Merit for a good worke whiche thinge ye shall neuer finde in the holye scriptures Now although the works of y regenerate are not so good as thei shold deserue eternall life yet are they good so farforth as they proceede from the good spirit of God from a hart y is clensed by faith And agein they be good bicause y by thē the lorde is glorified our neighbor helped and we our selues also reape this excellent fruite of thē that they bee witnesses vnto vs of our faith and consequently of our election Quest Let thus far then suffice concerning both the partes of Sanctification Now remayneth that which the Apostle saith also namely that Christ is become our redemption Ans By the woorde redemption the Apostle meeneth in that place not the verye act of redeeming but the effect of it that is too say the end whervnto the sayde Iustification and Sanctification lead vs the which is this that being redeemed from synne and death by Christ we should also be made partakers of eternal life in him whose pledge and earnest penny wee haue euen in this lyfe that is to wit the holy Ghost by whom we bee sealed vp Que. But Dauid groūdeth this redemption and blesing in the release of sins VVhy then adde you also the imputation of the sanctificatiō that sticketh in Christ and his fulfilling of the law An. What if I shold incounter thee with these textes Blessed are the cleane in hart blessed are the blameles in y way and suche other like woldest thou gather here vpon y the releasing of sinnes is excluded I think not So now then sanctification is ment by the terme of iustification bycause these twoo go neuer a sunder And why maye I not make answer thus also that somtimes there is mention made but onely of y releasing of sinnes not to the ende to exclude all other pates that make men blessed but by cause the rest are couerfly comprehended vnder it And if thou wilt vrge mee yet further I may also fitly answer that a● the other are ment by y releasing of sins For who can denye but that euen originall sin hath néede of clensinge Ergo it is comprehēded in the releasinge of sins Also who can saye that he only is too bee taken for an offender y doth some thinge which he is forbiddē not he also which performeth not that which is inioyned him Ergo not to haue fulfilled the lawe is also sin whiche also hath néede too be released Now remaine the sinnes that is to say the déedes that are don ageynst the law wherof there is no question but they haue néede too bee satisfied for All these are released by Christes satisfaction whiche is imputed too vs all Nowe let vs come too the name of Release That man is properly saide to release a dette whiche fréely yea and vtterly dischargeth his detter so as hee reserueth no action too himselfe ageinst him Now then wee bee all of vs the children of wrath not onely bycause we be corrupted or bycause wee fulfill not the lawe or bycause wee doo the thynges that are forbidden vs but also bycause wee ought too appeare pure béefore God such as he made vs and not only not too be transgressors of the law but also to be performers of the law Therfore too she ende that we who else must perish may haue full perfecte release of all sinnes this foresaide release muste of necessitye matche with the other release
Can God bee thought too haue willed or ordeined any thinge which he misliketh and so consequently which is euill Ans Truly it must néedes bee confessed that whatsoeuer god hath ordeined it is ordeined altogether willingly but euen herein also appéereth rightly his infinite wisedome that with him euen the darknes hath a respect of light yea and that in such wise as it neuerthelesse both is continueth darknesse still that is to saye it is good that there shoulde be also some euill bicause god findeth the reason how it may come too passe y the thing whiche both is and contineweth euil still of it owne nature maye neuerthelesse haue a respect of goodnes before him and howe the thinge that is against his wil that is to say which of it own nature is vnrightuous and therefore pleaseth not God may not come to passe without hys will that is to saye without his ordinance As for examples sake That God saueth his elect by redemption fréelye geuen in hys sonne Christe it is too his owne excedinge great glory which otherwise shold not haue shone forth But man shoulde not haue needed redemption from sinne and death excepte there had béene sinne and death Ergo in respecte of Goddes ordinaunce it was good that sinne and death shoulde enter into the worlde And yet the same sinne both is and contineweth so sinfull of it owne nature as amendes coulde not bee made for it but by most terrible punishement Agayne wée recouer muche more in Christ thā wee forwent in Adam Ergo Adams fall was the best and profitablest thinge that coulde bee for vs as in respecte of God who by this wonderfull meane prepareth a kingdome of euerlastinge glory for vs in Christe yet this fall is so euill of it owne nature that euen wee that beléeue and are iustified doo feele many misteries and mischaunces which springe of it euen too the death Also it is grealy to the glorye of god that he sheweth himselfe a moste sore punisher of all sinne But if there had beene no sinne there had bin no gap open for this iudgement to come in at Ergo in respecte of gods ordinaunce it was good that there shoulde bee sin and that the same should afterward bee spred abroade too bee punished with euerlastinge paines in the Deuilles and in all that bee set without Christe Also Sainct Peter sayeth It is y will of God that is too say it is his ordinaunce that when wee doo well wee shoulde bee misintreated But hee that ●ooth well cannot be hurte but by sinne Ergo in respecte of God that willeth it that is to saye whiche ordayneth it it is good that there shoulde bee persecutors of the Churche whome notwythstan●ynge hee iustlye punisheth afterwarde moste seuerelye as offenders agaynste ●is will that is to say as dooers agaynst that which he alloweth Therfore euen by the expresse words of y Apostles the thing that is ageinst Gods will that is too saye against that which he alloweth and commaundeth commeth not to passe without his will that is to saye without his ordinaunce and yet can it not therefore be said that god is contrary to himselfe or that he willeth iniquitie accordyng as Austin doth rightly conclude ageinst Iulian out of the word of god Quest Therefore it seemeth right that sufferance should be distinguished from willingnesse An. What I deeme meete to be thought of this distinction I haue spoken a little afore Truly if Sufferance bee matched ageinst Will that is to say ageinst ordinance such ouersetting is not only false but also foolish and fond considering that euen in suche actions as are not of free choise by themselues as for example when marchantmen that be in daunger doo cast out their goods and generally as often as men choose the lesse euill too auoyde the greater inconuenience euen the heathen menne ackowledged free will too beare sway But if Sufferance bee matched ageinst willingnesse that is to wit ageinst that which God is willing withal as well liked and accepted of him by it selfe of it owne nature so as the thing that is good of it self may bee matched ageinst that which is good but by well falling out and which hath some respect of good in it not of it owne nature but in respect of the ende that it is guided vntoo by God through whose incomprehensible wisedome euen the darknes doth seruice vnto the light theu truely I admit it so that this also be added to it namely that the same is not a vaine and idle sufferance as a number dreame but a most workful and yet neuerthelesse a most rightfull Sufferance for the better vnderstāding wherof take the matter in feawe woordes too stande thus I thinke thou wylt not saye that a iudge is but as an ydle loker on when vppon the heering of a transgressors case he deliuereth him too the Shreefe too be put too this kynde of punishement or that For surely the Shreefe doth not so muche put hym too death as he is the instrument of the Iudge that putteth hym too death so as if anye cruelty bee extended in that behalfe by the sentence of the iudge the same may bee imputed not so much too the executioner as too the iudge that commaunded him Quest I graunt all this But how manye vnlikely hoddes be there betwene these and the thinges that we intreate of Ans I confesse that For else there shold bee no difference or at leas●wise verye small betwene a like thinge and a same thing Neuerthelesse I woold haue y r●●ken vp at leastwise the cheefe of them that I may answer to them one by one Quest In the sentence of Iudges there goeth tryall before but in these thinges wherof you intreate there is oftentimes no such thing perceiued An. How many thinges are done iustly by the magistrats of this world the tryall wherof is not sene of their subiects And wilt thou attribute lesse vnto God who sercheth throughly all thinges the lye hyd euen in the bottoms of mens hartes as well past as too come Quest The Shref doth nothing but by cōmissiō receiued But where haue the wicked me receiued any such cōmaūdement as to kil one another or to hurt good men An. In this thou art deceiued y whatsoeuer god appointed to be don thou imaginest him to giue knowledge of it with some loude voyce vnto thē whose seruice he purposeth to vse in the dooinge of it But experience it selfe teacheth that y is not alwayes trew in neither of both the cases that is too say whither he haue determined to vse mercye or to vse iustice no not euen then when hee vseth instrumentes that haue vnderstandinge For who doubteth but that Pharao was ordeined of God to intertaine Ioseph and too prepare harborow for his Churche And yet he receiued no suche cōmaundement outwardly no nor so muche as thought of anye suche thinge in himselfe Neuerthelesse that was ordeyned of God and the