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A02772 A dialoge or communycacyon to be had at a table betwene two chyldren, gathered out of the holy scriptures, by Iohan Bale, for his .ij. yonge sonnes Iohan and Paule Bale, John, 1495-1563. 1549 (1549) STC 1290; ESTC S110635 6,511 17

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heauē Suche secrete doubtes ought not to be moued For nothing perteyne that vnto vs whych is aboue our compasse Paulus For the nature tyme and passage of this gospel I am wel satisfied But now tel me what shal here after become of them whych hath not of all this longe season in the true feare of god regarded the swete promises therof Ioannes As they haue in their vnfaythfulnesse here bene left to them selues to worke al vngodlynesse and so departed hence with a desperate conscience So shall they at the latter daye be condempned to eternall fyre wyth the deuyll and hys angels Paulus Oure mercyfull redemer defende vs from that malediccyon But what shall moste spedylye brynge me to that Gospel of health Ioannes The meke knowlege of thy selfe that thou art of nature the synnefull sonne of Adam iustlye condempned in his transgressiō besydes thyne owne wycked doynges and so lost for euer were not that recouer whiche thou hast in Christe Iesu. Paulus Shewe me by what meanes I maye come to that knowlege Ioannes Seke fyrste vnto the lawe whych the Lorde taught by Moyses and that shall declare the a synner Paulus Will the lawe do nothinge els but manifest my synne Ioannes Yes it wyl shewe the also thy condempnacyon Paulus If these be the only fruites of the lawe I will not ones beholde it least I by the searche therof do fall into dispayre Ioannes Then shalt thu not do wyselye For yf thou know not thy sore thou shalte not be occasyoned to seke the remedye When thu hast therfore in y t law as in a clere myrrour beholdē thy manyfolde mysheues cōsidered the depe daungers of thē thu shalt of necessite be moued to seke vnto Christe as vnto an onlye relefe health cōfort peace attonement grace righteousnesse wysedome redēpcion Paulus Why is there non other saluacion but that which is in Christ Ioannes No surely frynde he alone is y t lambe which taketh awaye the synnes of the worlde Paulus What shall we thē call our spiritual sacrifiars which saye they delyuer vs from synne wyth their masses absolucions blessinges vnccions holy water Ioannes Not sauers but deceyuers lyke as Christ of thē hath prophecyed Manye seducers sayeth he shal come in my name and saye Here is Christe and there is thy maker But beware they deceyue you not Paulus Where shall I then seke to open vnto hym my grefe and so to haue remedy for my soules disease Ioannes Not out of thy selfe to thy soules behoue For thy faythful hart is the temple of God or that holy habitaciō that Christ hath promised to dwell in The false worshippers seke him in outwarde thinges neuer finde him But seke thu him in spirite and verite and thou shalt haue hym present Paulus Then is he not vnder the deliueraunce of menne nor yet bounde to their dispēsacyon Ioannes No trulye is he not nomore than are the other gyftes of God as wysdome vnderstandinge connsell strengthe science pyte the iust feare of God For as testifyeth saynt Iames. Euerye perfyght gyft is from aboue commeth downe vnto vs frō the father of lyght immediatlye Paulus By this your hole protestaciō it should seme than vnto me that I am ordayned of God to this ende First to acknowlege my selfe a wycked synner than to aryse from it through true repentaunce and so to leade a newe lyfe after the gospell tyll suche tyme as my eternall father shall wy●saue to call me from this corruptible mansyon thys foren lande this vale of myserye this castell of synne and thys habytacle of deathe into the eternall heretage of hys sonne Iesus Christe To whom with the holye ghost be euerlastynge prayse honour and glorye worlde wythout ende Amen ¶ A confession of the synner after the sacred scrypturs collected by Iohan Bale at the request of a faythfull frynde of hys I Acknowledge vnto my eternal euerlastyng god that of myne owne nature I am non other but a carnall thynge and the myserable chylde of Adam iustlye exyled wyth hym in hys transgression I felt also that of my selfe I haue neyther power vnderstandinge wysdome knowledg strength grace vertu nor godlynesse and that I can not do so muche as ones thynke a good thought Here haue I wandered in the regyon of dyssimylitude all contrarye to hys prescrypt rewles and admonishmētes I haue folowed the fylthye concupiscence of an hart all earthlye mynded the wantō desyres of eyes replete wyth all vanites the vayne glorye of thys worlde comprehendynge al inordinate vyces to the vtter dampnacion of my sowle Sathan hath suggested vnto me the loue of thynges corruptible the desyre of fleshlye pleasurs the appetyte of voluptuouse fedinges the delyght of lasciuyouse fables the couetynge of ydell slouthfulnesse the affeccions of ryches honour bewtye wantonnesse and other execrable fantasyes wythout nombre And vnto all these haue I consented nor regardynge the godlye warninges of scripture to the cōtrary So that I am now become through myne owne wyckednesse a captyue presoner vnder the lawe the worlde the fleshe death synne helle and the deuyl all cruell fearce aduersaryes vnto me Whan I haue respect vnto mine owne nature I fynde it al synnefull in Adam feble weake wretched Whan I loke towardes Moyses I finde all to heuye for me He burdeneth me with greuose yockes he feareth my conscience wyth threttenynges and vtterlye dampneth me with curses for disobedyence I heare the lawe reade the commaundementes but whan I conferre them wyth my fleshe assaye to do them in effect I fynde it farre vnable to fulfyll them Wherupon I dispayre in my self as one readye to fal into the moste depe bottome of helle Than consydre I ageyne by the lyght of the Lordes callynge and by the openinge of hys grace hys confortable promyses in the prophetes the glad tydynges of saluacyō in the Gospell These doth rayse me vp agayne they confort me gratly They wytnesse vnto me of Christ. They leade me vnto him throughlye assertanynge me that he is whollye myne owne yf I trulye repēt from the hart Thus after the heauēlye father hath shewed vnto me the iuste cause of hys indignacyon and vtterly deiected me for synne he calleth vnto mynde hys eternall mercye He remembreth I am but fleshe He consydereth that I am but dust No louyng Father can be more mercyfu●l to the fruyte of hys owne bodye nor yet naturall mother more pr●tefull to her chylde than he is vnto me hys wretched creature Though I haue most ryehtously abused the gyftes of nature fortune and grace yet calleth home agayn to repētaunce And so causeth me to remembre that I haue synned agaynst heauen that I haue in hys syght done fylthynesse and that I am not worthye from henceforth to beare name of his sonne Whan he beholdeth my wretched nakydnesse without good workes or deseruynges he bryngeth forth the beste garment whych is the ryghtuousnesse of Christe He putteth it vpon me and so hydeth my sinne He setteth a rynyge on my fyngar so espowsynge me to immortalyte in case I perseuer in fayth to the ende He putteth showes vpon my fete so sequesteringe my carnall affecciōs so preparyng my pathwayes into the gospell of peace Christ resorteth vnto me of lou● He descrybeth hym selfe before me in the gospell He telleth me hys office is onlye to saue He calleth me vnto him to refreshe me He receyueth me to ease me of my burdene He conforteth me wyth promyses of euerlastynge lyfe He kuytteth me vnto hys owne mistycall bodye makynge me a mēbre therof He declareth vnto me all other offyces of conforte heauenlye As that he is my onlye wysdome helth ryghteousnes redēpciō And that yf I beleue in him I shal not come into iudgemēt but passe through from death vnto the lyfe euerlastyng Thus beynge a fleshlye thynge of nature and throwne downe by the lawe I am raysed vp ageyne by the gospell and so saued no synne past beynge ▪ imputed vnto me from henceforth for Iesus Christes sake To whom he glorye wyth the father and the holye Ghost worlde wythout ende Amen Psalm viij Out of the mouth of babes and sucklynges haste thou made perfyght thy prayses FINIS Gene. ij Psal. xv Hebr. xi Ioan. iij Hebr. xi Gal. iiij Apo. xiiij Roma i. Ihō xvij Luce. xij Mat. xiij Sa. xiiij Ihon .iiij and .x. ma. xxiiij Gene. iij Gala. iij Gen. xxij Psalm cxxxi Ihon .i. i. Petr. i. Luce. 1. Ma. xxij Luc. xiiij Ge. iiij Gen. vi Gen. ix Ge. xxi Exo. v. ij re xiij iij. Reg. xviij Mat. x. Act. viij Rom. i. Hiere l. Rom. i. ij Co. xi ij Tes. ij i. Tim. ij Gene. iij Apa xiiij Ihon .i. ps cxviij Heb. viij Luc. xvi i. Cori. x. Exo. xvij Mat. xvi Act. vij Hiere ix Sapi. xij Iacobi i Io. xviij mat xvi Ephesi i Galat. v Ioan. ij Luc. i Psalm cxviij Sap. x Roma ij ij Pet. i. Hier. i. Da. xiij Mat. x. Marci xvi Lu. xviij Mar. x. Mat. i. Ecc. iij. pro. xxv Za. vij Esai v. Ose. ix Rom. i. ij thes ij Sa. xvij Matth. xxv Act. xv Luc. iij. Ephe. ij Iaco. v. i. Co. xv Io. vij Rom. iij Gal. iij. Rom. v. ij cor vij Gala. iij Rom. iij Gala. iij Act. iiij i. Cor. i. Esa. liij Ioan. i ij Pet. ij Ap. xviij Matth. xxiiij Luc. xvij Coloss. ij i. Io. iiij i. Cor. vi Luc. xvij Ioā xiiij Apo. xiij Ioan. iiij ij tim ij Esai xi Iaco. i. Ioan. iij Pro. ij Psal. l. Rom. vi ephe iiij Iob. x. Ro. vij Ro. viij Ephe. ij Esai xi ij cor iij i. Ioā ij Luc. xxij i. Pet. v Ro. vij Iaco. i. Eccle. i. Deut. xxvij Hier. iiij Psalm xxxvij Esai xxvi Ioan. i. Ro. viij Luce. i. Eccle. Psal. cij Isa. xlix Luc. xv Psal. l. Mat. x. ephe vi Luc. xix Mat. xi Ioā viij i. cor vi i. Cor. i. Ephe. ij Ro. viij
¶ A dyspatche of vowes and presthode by the wurd of God Compyled by Iohan Bale A dialoge or Communycacyon to be had at a table betwene two chyldren gathered out of the holy scriptures by Iohan Bale for his .ij. yonge sonnes Iohan and Paule To be sold in Fletestrete at the signe of the Croune nexte vnto the whyte Fryres gate ¶ Imprynted at London for Richarde Foster Anno. M.D.XLIX ¶ The .c. and .xxx. Psalm of Dauid called De profundis FRom fayth of soule and hartes reioyce I call to the Lorde heare my voyce Thyne eares good Lorde enclyned be Vnto the poore complaynt of me Yf thu shouldest waye our wyckednesse Who can abyde thy ryghtuousnesse Because I fynde all health in the I doubt no fearce extremyte In my Lorde God is all my trust To walke as hys worde hath discust The churche for her contynuaunce Trust in the lordes good gouernaunce For in the Lorde great mercye is And full redempcyon after thys He wyll redeme all Israel From deuyll and deathe from synne and hell ☞ Iohan Bale Anno M.D.XLIII A Dialoge or Communicacyon to be had at a table betwene .ij. chyldren gathered out of the holy scriptures by Iohan Bale for his two yong sonnes Iohan and Paule Paulus iunior filius FOr so much as God hath cōstitute me a creature reasonable and indued me wyth an vnderstandynge I am naturally desyerouse to knowe to what ende I am created Ioannes senior filius Than wyl it be necessary for yow to haue fayth For he y t shal haue a do with god or with godlynesse must fyrste of all beleue after the sacred scrypturs Paulus Than tel me whatfaith is by those same sacred scriptures Ioannes After the saynge of S. Paule it is a certen assuraunce of godly thynges whyche we trust vnto and a grounded euydence in the sprete of heauēly causes that neuer are seane w t the eye Paul What suppose ye moste fytt to dyrect me in thys faythe Ioannes The eternall Testament or Gospell of Iesus Christ for that is y e power of the Lorde into saluacyon to all them that beleue What shal I esteme the tradicions of men besides that gospel Ioannes The leuen of Pharisees chaffe cockle tares stubble swylle swines draffe ydeluesse ydolatry whordome of the sprete fylthynesse false worshyppynge the call of straungers the fearfull curse of God and abhomiuacion standing in the holy place Paulus Whā was this gospel first taught Ioannes Sone after the worldes beginning whā Adā had ones offended least he shulde haue fallen into vtter dispair and so haue bene lost for ener Paulus And hath the Gospell contynued euersens to the confort of manne Ioannes Yea truly hath it oft sens that time bene confirmed by more earnest promises from age to age tyll that meke lambe come whyche toke awaye the synnes of the worlde thorough the shedynge of his most innocent bloud For the scrypture sayth that hys mercye was plenteouse from kyndrede to kyndred to them that feared the Lord. Paulus Hath all menne bene called to grace by that Gospell of saluacyon Ioannes Yea doubtlesse haue they yet haue they not al thākefully receyued it So well was it taught of our fyrste father Adam to Cain as to Abel So wel to the fleshely chyldren of menne as to the ghostly chyldren of God So well ded Noe preache it vnto Cham as vnto Sem and Iapheth So well ded Abraham shewe it to Ismael as to Isaac So well Moyses to Pharao as to the people of Israel Dauid to Amnon and Absolon as to Salomō Nathan Helias to Achab Iesabel as to the moste faythfull beleuers No lesse ded Christ open therof to Iudas than to Peter Iohan Iames. And so forth the Apostles with other true preachers to this present day so that non is without excuse Paulus How cometh it then to passe that so many are lost and still yet doth dayly peryshe through their lewde cōuersacyon and lycencyouse lyuyng Ioannes No faute can be ascribed to the Gospel but to their vnthankeful receiuing of y e frutes therof so frely offered them as I sayd afore The disdayneful spurninge a syde or throwinge at their tayles of that necessary health in Christ is cause of their decaye and not the set ordinaunce of God whych willeth all menne to be saued Paulus If Adam thus receyued thys gospel so taught it vnto his posterite it hath continued much longer then I supposed Ioannes The gospell is as y t Lord is euerlasting For as wytnesseth the Apostle saynt Iohn In the beginninge was the word the word was w t God God was that word Paulus Thē was not Mathew the fyrst wryter therof wyth the other Euangelistes as the popyshe churche hath taught vs Ioannes No God wrote it fyrst in the naturall hart of man so yt remained here styll tyll Moyses and the prophetes ded leaue it in outward wrytinge to the peoples farder erudicyon For as S. Paule doeth wytnesse all they ded eate frō the first beginninge of one spiritual meate dranke of one spiritual drynke y t harde rocke folowinge thē which was Iesus christ And this is a clere tokē that one gospel hath reigned in y e people of god sence y t worldes beginninge Paulus Yonge infantes departinge hence in their chyldehode shoulde seme to be no partyners therof Ioannes How so I pray you What is your reasō Paulus For they neuer haue it taught thē And yf they had yet shuld it lytle profyght thē hauing so smal vnderstāding Ioan. God neuer distributeth his gyftes to y t measure of age discressiō for then had Annas bene more faythfull then Peter and Caiphas more godlye then Iohan. For they were both elder and wyser As fayth is an vnknowne gyft of God so is it of hym secretelye ministred We knowe not frō whēce it cometh whē menne are borne of the spirit Iohan Baptist knewe Christ in his mothers wōbe yet had he neither age nor vnderstanding that was sene God is their secrete instructour preacher which taught it first withoute voyce wrote it without penne in the hydden hart of man As the spirite of prophecyded happen vnto menne by the fre gift of god without age so doth fayth to y e infantes As he gaue that benefyght of his grace to the babe Hieremye so doth he secretely ministre vnto thē that necessarye health of saluacion He alone made y e child Daniel rightlye to iudge y e vngodlye The Apostles spoke not of them selues but out of the abundaūce of hys eternal spirit also The aged are left to the outwarde gospell the chyldren are reserued to Gods secrete workynge And therfore Christe said vnto hys Apostles suffre the childrē to come vnto me for to thē belongeth the kingdome of heauē Theyr angels are euermore beholdinge the face of my father which is in