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A05089 A petition directed to Her Most Excellent Maiestie wherein is deliuered 1. A meane howe to compound the ciuill dissention in the Church of England, 2. A proofe that they who write for reformation, do not offend against the stat. of 23. Eliz. c.2. and therefore till matters be compounded, deserue more fauour ... : here vnto is annexed, some opinions of such as sue for reformation ... : also, certayne articles vvherein is discouered the negligence of the bishoppes ... : lastlie, certayne questions or interrogatories dravvn by a fauourer of reformation ... Barrow, Henry, 1550?-1593. 1591 (1591) STC 1522A; ESTC S1453 68,920 84

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Reformation as felons that yet it is Expedient I answere that if such law be admitted it will be the most daungerous perillous practise that euer was receiued within this Realme of Englande For neither the Prince the Councellours the Magistrates Bishops Iudges or best subiectes can liue in security If men may violate law and iustice vpon a colour or pretence of Expediencie what endlesse mischie●es may insue vnto the common wealth What kinde of president would this be to al succeding ages To what purpose haue our auncestours prouided that there shoulde bee euery yeare or oftner a Parliament to supply the defectes of law if vppon a surmise of experiencie men might goe beyond the listes and limites of lawe If the reuerende Iudges of the lande who ought to preserue the integrity and honour of the lawe shoulde admit any such learning besides that it would ouerthrow both the common and statute law it would indaunger the keeping of their oth giue their goods landes and liues to the Princes pleasure Some will expect that I shoude answere the charge against the writer of the Demonstration if one man made both the Epistle and the booke which I haue not as yet hearde to bee proued but seeing he is conuicted by the verdict of 12. men the proceeding against him notoriouslie knowen the accusation and woordes wherevpon hee was conuicted in euerie mans mouth I leaue it to the iudgement of the great day when the Iudge all Iudges shalbe iudged before the Iudge of heauen and earth who will rewarde euery man according to that which he hath done good or ill Precious in the eies of the Lorde is the death of his Saintes O earth thou canst not couer bloude It still cryeth in the eares of the Lord for vengeance saying How long Lorde holy and true doest not thou Iudge and auenge our bloude on them that dwell on the earth Surelie he that preserueth the haires of the head and putteth the teares of his seruantes into a bottel will much more preserue in his bottel the drops of the bloude that fall from the bodies of his saintes Therefore be warned bee wise and take heede what you doe ye Iudges of the earth It is one thing to deale with a theefe and murtherer another thing to iudge a Minister preacher of the Gospell of Christ your redeemer and that in matters of religion wherein God knoweth you haue small vnderstanding Thus haue I runne ouer the obiections made to proue the writers of Reform against the Hierarchie to bee diffamers of hir Maiestie and rebelles I will proceede a little further to shew that if men would be curious in their writings that deale for the Bb. and if their wordes were a little inforced as they might be by M. Dolion or some such factor for the Bish I feare they might incurre the daunger of this ●tatute as easily as others The Bb. in their booke doe write That it is not lawfull to bestowe such liuings vpon late men as are appointed by 〈◊〉 to Preachers of the worde Though this might stande good and yet ouerthrowe many of our Bb. states honors who preach not the word yet this doeth reproch hir Maiestie who doeth imploy some of the ●b liuings o●tentimes to better vses then Bb doe bestowe them M. VVicleve that famous protestant taught another lesson 〈…〉 And who will not thinke the superfluitie of a Bb. liuing better bestowed vppon such a man as Sir Frauncis Walsingham that right honorable Councelor and benefactor of the Church and Countrie then vppon any Bb. that referreth al abondance to the aduancement of his house and posteritie D. Br●ages mainteineth in writing That a Priest maie haue a moderate Lordely iurisdiction ouer all the Lordes allotment and 〈◊〉 Which implieth and externall ●ordely iurisdiction ouer hir Maiestie v●les he will say That she is none of Gods heritage both which might be made a daungerous doctrine D. Bancroft writeth That her M●iestie is a P●ty pope and ascribeth to hir all the iurisdiction that the Pope euer had by vsurpation M. Iewell saieth That the popish Prelates gaue K. Henr●● the 8. the strange and vnvsed ●ule of head of the Church to bring him into the slander and taske of the worlde And the Parliament for auoyding scandale changed the title of Supreme heade to Suprem Gouernour If Maist. Iewell misliked that th● Queene should be called Supreme heade what would he haue thought of Pety pope or howe can the Parliament beare this Do not the Protestantes detest in the pap their woman pope The Archb. of Canterb. would bee displeased and I can not blame him if a man should call him Pope Notwithstanding the Pope saide of one of his predecessors Includamus hunc in orbe nostro tanquam 〈◊〉 orbis Papam Let vs include this A●selme in our woorlde as Pope of another worlde meaning great Britaine called by the auncient writers a world by it selfe yet it is thought nothing to call hir Maiestie a Pe●y pope Doctor Whitakers sayeth That the Name authoritie and person of the Pope all Protestantes doe abhorre and accurse to the Prince of darknesse whence it came The papistes doe slaunder hir Maiestie to be a Pope or Pety pope but M. Nowell telleth the papistes and D. Bancroft also That wee doe not teach that the Princes be either Popes or Pety popes The papistes also doe abuse hir Highnes as D. Bancroft doeth saying That vve take the Supremacie from the Pope and giue it to the Prince But Doctor Rainolds aunswereth That the Supremacie which vvee take from the Pope vve giue to no mortali creature Prince or other But D. Banc. who thinketh himselfe a great Clerke as if he were a deeper Diuine then either M. Nowell or M. Rainolds whom he vseth to call a Prec●fian maketh hir Maiestie a Petie pope assigneth hir not some of the Popes power but ALL honors dignities preeminences iurisd●ctions priuileges authorities profites and commodities which by vsurpation did at anie time apperta●e vnto the Pope If a man can diffame by foolishe flatterie then D. Banc●s the most notorious di●●amer of hir Maiestie in al England Neither lawe reason religion or good manners doeth wa●rant this God forbid that like extremity were extended for these faultes as hath bin vsed against the Seek of Reformat I doe not recount them for that purpose but onely that the Bb. and their friendes seeing their owne case if hir Maiestie vvere not mercifull may deale more curteously with their brethren Conclusion Considering the doubtfulnes of these controuersies I trust your Maiesty will take some good order for the peaceable debating compounding of them In the meane time we hope that these things which are here writen being well weighed your gratious and tender heart will neuer suffer one drop of bloud to fall to ground for these causes of Reform till
A petition directed to her most excellent Maiestie wherein is deliuered 1 A meane howe to compound the ciuill dissention in the church of England 2 A proofe that they who write for Reformation do not offend against the stat of 23. Eliz. c. 2. and therefore till matters be compounded deserue more fauour Open thy mouth for the dumbe in the causes of the children appointed to death PROV 31. 8. I beleeued and therefore haue I answered For SIONS sake I will not ceasse and for IERVSALEMS sake I will not holde my tong ESA. 62. 1. Herevnto is annexed Some opinions of such as sue for Reformation By vvhich is made appeare hovve vniustlie they are slaundered by the Bishops c. pag 53. Together vvith the Authours Epistle to the Reader pag. 58. Also Certeyne Articles wherein is discouered the negligence of the Bishoppes their Officialls Fauourers and Follovvers in performance of sundrie Ecclesiasticall Statutes Lawes and Ordinances Royall and Episcopall published for the gouernement of the Church of England pag. 60. Lastlie Certeyne Questions or Interrogatories dravven by a fauourer of Reformation vvhich he desireth to be resolued by the Prelates pag. 74. To the Queenes most excellent Maiestie Elizab. by the grace of God Queene of Englande France and Ireland supreme gouernesse in all causes and ouer all persons within her Maiesties Realmes and Dominions CRauing vppon my knees pardon for my boldnes I beseech your most excellēt maiesty to heare me a little All your Highnes subiects that loue the religion honour your maiesty and desire the good of the Realme doe hartily bewaile the bitter contentiō about the questions of reforming the Church Many seeke to increase this contention Some labour to appease it but this will neuer bee till the trueth in these matters be assured in the hearts of both parties I doe not nowe write eyther to pull downe Bishoprickes or erect presbiteries With whom the trueth is I will not determine For I knowe not What seemeth most probable and true to me that I knowe Howe trueth should come to light that is the question Writing of bookes in such manner as is nowe vsed is endlesse wearinesse to the fleshe matter of further contention by reason of impertinent and personall discourses The troubles of Churches and enmitie of Princes wil not admit a generall Councell A free Nationall or Prouinciall Councell at home were much to be wished so that the Bb. and their followers did not ouerrule the rest For it is against religion law and reason that the same men should be both iudges and parties Or if this be not thought so conuenient There is a way deuised and much commended by learned men as a notable meane to compounde controuersies namely priuate conferences by aduised writing not extemporall speaking the question agreed of The arguments th● answeres replies and reioinders set downe till both parties had fully said all by-matters laid aside In fine the whole to be published that your maiesty the honourable Councellours and Parliament may iudge thereof that those thinges which on eyther part are founde faultie may be redressed That all thinges be not so cleare with the Bb. but that further conference triall and reformation is requisite appeareth 1 By the lawes established which expect a better and further reformation in Church-causes 2 By the writings of our Diuines in the common cause against the papistes 3 By the confession of the Bb. them selues and such a● write in their defence 4 By their suspicious and doubtfull handling of the matters in question 5 By the testimony of learned men and christian Churches who seeme to speake against the gouernment by Bb. and for the gouernement by assisting Elders 1 The lawes expect a further reformation of the Church Your Maiesties most noble Father vnderstanding that the lawes Ecclesiasticall of this lande were corrupt prouided by Parliament that 32. persons should peruse and correct them gathering into one booke those that were good which by his Royall assent should haue the strength of lawe all other Ecclesiasticall lawes to be abandoned out of this Church for euer Maister D. Cranmer and other reuerend men were delegated to this purpose They collected into one booke many good thinges as they thought touching Aduouson of benefices Excommunication for small matters Residence of Vniuersitie men vpon their benefices Mariages without consent of parentes Nursing of children by their owne mother Diuorces for infirmitie of body Pluralities Broken Musicke in Cathedrall Churches Deacons The solemnitie of Excōmunication and abso●ution with the assent of the people and many other things which are directly contrary to the practise and orders of the moderne Bishops But this booke wanteth the Kinges confirmation and the lawes Ecclesiasticall remaine in the same corruption as your Maiesties Father left them notwithstanding the labours of those Reuerend personages and the act of Parliament which was reuiued and confirmed in the beginning of your Highnes most happy reigne 2 Also in the booke of common prayer which was sette forth by your Maiesties brother accepted by your highnes there is prescribed a Commination to bee vsed at a certaine time in the yeare not to continue euer but till an order of Discipline practised in she primitiue Church bee restored which were greatly to bee wished as the authours of that booke doe saie Yet this Commination stādeth and the Discipline there mentioned is yet wanting 3 The booke of ordering Ministers confirmed by lawe presumeth that euery Minister should be a Preacher For at the Ordination the Bishop sayeth Take thou authority to preach the word of God Yet where the Bb. ordeine one Minister that can preach they make twenty that can not 4 ●astly it is enacted That all ornaments of the Church and Ministers thereof such as are Surples Coapes c. shall be retained and be in vse as was appointed by King Edward the 6. not for vnchangeable continuaunce but vntill other order were taken by your Maiestie and your Highnes Ecclesiasticall Commissioners 2 The Defenders of our common cause expect a further Reformation Those thinges in effect be acknowledged by some of our chiefe defendours of religion against the papistes For vvhen they obiect That we are glad to borrowe their ceremonies to haue an apish imitation of their Mas●e booke answere is returned That diuers abuses in Ceremonies and Discipline were tollerated among vs our Church therein yeelding to the infirmitie of the weaker sorte which were to be altered when people grewe to ryper knowledge 3 The Defenders of the state of Bb. expect further Reformation 1 Al the Bishops in their Canons do confesse that Non-residencie is a filthie thing od●ous to men pernicious to the church yet what is more common 2 By the lawes of England in the ordination of Bb. the Archbishop should lay the Bible vpon the Bishops neck